User talk:Ais523

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Recently, this page has started to get very large, so I archived it – you can find the old contents at User talk:ais523/Archive1.

Delete blank pages

The first 12 pages in Special:ShortPages are blank pages, please delete them. --None1 (talk) 01:23, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

theres more... tommyaweosme 21:18, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
There are 15 now. --None1 11:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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User:Ractangle (Discord:belarusianflag)

Delete a page

Please delete Python program which generates 硕鼠 code that prints the certain text, I have expected someone to delete it a long time ago. --None1 (talk) 13:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Deleted. --ais523 18:31, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Delete a category

The category Category:Never Implement is undiscussed and is the same as Category:Uncomputable, please delete it. --None1 (talk) 14:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

A question for you.

How many categories in the Esolang Wiki now, my LORD If the number is reached 100, I will stop create more categories. Thank you! --PrySigneToFry (talk) 2024年5月30日,21:05 (CHN)

You don't need answer now. I counted it, its 152 now. But some categories are too general, such as multi-dimensional-languages. I think it can be seperated to 3D-languages, 4D-languages, 5D-languages, until 10D-languages and >10D-languages. --PrySigneToFry (talk) 2024年5月30日,21:09 (CHN)

Do you readed my essay 《About more Categories》?

   ↑
My talk

--PrySigneToFry (talk to PrySigneToFry) 2024年6月6日,20:05 (CHN)

I tried, but it isn't very comprehensible and I can't tell what you're trying to argue for or against. --ais523 12:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
I wish you can create more subcategories. Such as Three-dimensional Languages for Multi-dimensional Languages. --PrySigneToFry (talk to PrySigneToFry) 2024年6月8日,22:18 农历五月初三 (CHN)
I don't think there's much benefit – the categories are there to help people find languages they're interested in, but maintaining the category lists can be a lot of effort, and it seems like the effort to maintain that would be worse than the value gained from it. --ais523 15:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
我甚至不知道原来会搞出来这事情。(Translate on any translator) --PrySigneToFry (talk to PrySigneToFry) 2024年6月29日,09:03 农历五月廿四 (CHN)

The Pre template is not an attempt to save bytes

In MediaWiki, the pre tag does not support wikitext and other markup inside. While this is normally a good thing, I encountered a scenario (highlighting important code for a proof) where adding color or boldness to the inside of a pre tag was required. But when breaking it into multiple pre tags, it displays as two blocks, and the code tag doesn't have proper multi-line formatting. So I copied the pre template from Wikipedia which allows inner tags, so someone could do something like <span style="color:red">highlighted</code>. If you could restore the template, it would be greatly appreciated. BoundedBeans (talk) 01:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
I know it's possible by indenting but that gets annoying with longer code blocks. BoundedBeans (talk) 02:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Oops, sorry, I got confused by the deletion of the page in 2011 and the related talk page that still exists. But I added the page because I had to do this for the proof:
    ;=
   ] AA
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  [
 <span style="color:red">=</span>
 <span style="color:red">"</span>
 <span style="color:red">} |</span>
  %
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BoundedBeans (talk) 02:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

If you really have to do this, you can use spaces before lines to create code boxes, that support formatting:

for i in range(10):
    print("Hello, World!")

Source:

 <span style="color:red">for</span> i <span style="color:red">in</span> <span style="color:blue">range</span>(<span style="color:green">10</span>):
     <span style="color:blue">print</span>(<span style="color:orange">"Hello, World!"</span>)

Also copying anything from Wikipedia is copyright violation, isn't it? --None1 (talk) 02:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Hmm... I thought Wikipedia was public domain, but Wikipedia:Copyrights says it isn't, just an extremely permissive copyright license. I'll remove the template's content to follow Esolang:Policy's "public domain or equivalent" clause, and hopefully Ais523 will see this to take down the template. Thanks for alerting me to this. BoundedBeans (talk) 04:39, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
The indentation and span strategy works with colors, but not with tables inside of code for a hypothetical esolang that uses tables as instructions with regular characters. Because hypotheticals matter to me (and bear with me here because I know this is horrible style), I made this shoddy recreation of a pre tag with a div tag:
hello a table follows
ab
cd
end

Code:

<div class="rectwrap" style="white-space:pre;font-family:Consolas,monospace;background-color:#F5F5F5;padding:10px;border:solid;border-color:#F0F0F0;">hello
a table follows<table class="wikitable"><tr><td>a</td><td>b</td><tr><td>c</td><td>d</td></tr></table>end</div>

BoundedBeans (talk) 06:17, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Seems fine to me, I do see a table in the code. --None1 (talk) 07:04, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I've deleted the template. If we end up frequently needing a "style-white-space:pre" style that isn't MediaWiki's <pre> tag, we could potentially add one to the site CSS (but the "pre-with-nowiki" behaviour is probably what people will want most of the time. For what it's worth, when esolangs are using formatted documents as code (with fonts, bolding, tables, etc.) rather than a plain text file, it may make more sense to use something other than code formatting to surround them, rather than trying to recreate the behaviour of <pre>.
The original pre template was an attempt to replace <pre>…</pre> with {{pre|…}}, which doesn't work (or at least didn't at the time.) --ais523 17:29, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Is Bbtos a joke language?

Obviously, it is, but the author of its says it isn't, please stop that. --None1 (talk) 13:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Featured language

The featured language has been Thue for quite a long time, and it is said that "The next change in the featured language is scheduled to 2024-06-16", then why is the featured language unchanged? --None1 (talk) 23:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Because it wasn't an admin who said that. Changing the featured languages is awkward because a) we have to find an article of the required quality, and b) there aren't many active admins, which makes it hard to come to an agreement on a language to pick because a single admin will have a biased view of things (e.g. it is hard for me to fairly compare the quality of articles about my own languages with articles about other people's). In general I'm not sure that the wiki has enough admin power to handle that sort of thing at the moment (especially because I've been spending more time than I'd like recently simply on regular admin actions like giving people warnings and deleting pages). --ais523 00:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?

YOU JUST SPARKED A WAR!!!! ANOTHER GREAT WAR!!!! IF YOU MAKE A SANDBOX, WHY DO YOU DELETE THE OTHER SANDBOX ON THE SAME SITE?!?!?!?!?1?!? tommyaweosme BRING BACK THE OLDS SANDBOX (talk) 14:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

The purpose of the sandbox is for users (especially new users) to make test edits – if you are trying to preserve content there, you are entirely missing the point of what a sandbox is (and in particular you may discourage new users from overwriting it for their tests like they are supposed to).
Additionally, the purpose of this wiki as a whole is for documenting esoteric programming languages. It isn't for general-purpose hosting of unrelated content; off-topic content is supposed to be deleted regardless of where on the wiki it is. The content that was previously in the sandbox wasn't related to the main purpose of the wiki; although much of it did look like test edits, there is no point in keeping those around once the test is completed. --ais523 18:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

well ok im just gonna move to a google docs LETS SEE HOW YOU LIEK THAT tommyaweosme BRING BACK THE OLDS SANDBOX (talk) 19:06, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

WHY DO YOU DELETE SO MANY PAGES??? tommyaweosme BRING BACK THE OLDS SANDBOX (talk) 17:28, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Because it's the job of an admin to try to keep the wiki a) ontopic, and b) legal. If people are posting offtopic content then the wiki starts to lose its identity, and becomes gradually useless for people who are trying to find content about esoteric programming languages – additionally, the people who pay to keep the wiki running are paying to keep esolang-related content online, not to be used as a general hosting service, so if the wiki wasn't being moderated properly then it might end up losing its funding and being shut down. And if people are posting content that they can't legally post (typically because it is copyrighted – almost all content found on the Internet is copyrighted), then that has to be deleted for legal reasons.
Additionally, sometimes people create a page by mistake, and want to delete it – that needs the help of an admin too.
It would be a lot easier for me if people would stop posting content that had to be deleted! In the past I haven't needed to spend too much time moderating the wiki, but there have been a lot of deletions required recently, and it is hard to keep up with all the edits. But there has been a huge increase in both offtopic content and copyright violations over the past couple of weeks, and it is hard to keep up with it. That's also meant that I haven't had as much time for explaining the deletions as I normally would. --ais523 17:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
ok tommyaweosme BRING BACK THE OLDS SANDBOX (talk) 17:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

About your sign

I find three links in your sign(U is your User Page, T is your Talking Page, and C is your contribution). What did you mean for these link in your sign? --PrySigneToFry (talk to PrySigneToFry) 2024年6月29日,9:00 农历五月廿四 (CHN)

There are two "Elang" now.

I wish you can move my page ELang(Not ELANG) to "E-language". --PrySigneToFry talk to PrySigneToFry 2024年7月5日,22:18 农历五月三十 (CHN)

I have made the move, but for future reference: the page moving feature is not restricted to admins. When using the default interface, you can find it under the "More" menu next to the search box, in the top right corner. --ais523 19:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for reminder. --PrySigneToFry talk to PrySigneToFry 2024年7月7日,22:17 农历六月初二 (CHN)

Delete pages

The pages jail system makes no sense and copyright makes no sense are offtopic and brainfuck is not turing complete is totally wrong. They should get deleted immediately. --None1 (talk) 00:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

  1. that is a joke that has lasted for years and precious to the majority of esowiki
  2. it is turing complete, so by extension, this is esolang related
  3. wrong on purpose. it is a superjoke RELATED TO ESOLANGS tommyaweosme 02:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm not convinced by Tommyaweosme's arguments here – but I also don't think this is a case of "needs to be deleted immediately". I've already started a deletion discussion for the first one of those pages, and None1 has started a discussion for the third; we'll see what the consensus is on whether they should be deleted (and I'm planning to wait for a while to see if more voices turn up). The second is more interesting in that it contains actual code, and the only mistake on the page is in axiom 3 (because it doesn't place limits on the "reliable way" not itself containing a copy of a copyrighted work) – although it may still be offtopic. --ais523 09:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

You're going too far

You deleted the page that I circled. Please remove the link from Joke language list.

--PrySigneToFry talk to PrySigneToFry 2024年7月18日,18:40 农历六月十三 (CHN)

You know you can edit the wiki yourself, right? It's a lot less effort to remove a link than it is to upload a picture asking someone else to remove a link. (Besides, it makes sense for me to leave the link for a while in case someone decides to recreate the page without the copyright infringements, rather than deleting the link – I or someone else is likely to delete it in a bit if it remains there without the page being created, or you could delete it yourself if you like.) --ais523 17:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

About BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX WAR

So why did the BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX WAR(I call it Esolang Wiki War I) is sparked? I don't know how did the page Esolang:Sandbox is the cause of the entire war. --PrySigneToFry talk to PrySigneToFry 2024年7月19日,18:57 农历六月十四 (CHN)

I think I did something which you did.

Do you see the history of Esolang:Sandbox? I deleted 2 edits of this page. --PrySigneToFry 2024年7月22日,23:00 农历六月十七 (CHN)

Deleted PIKOLang page

Hi, could you please restore the PIKOLang page, or send me a link to where I can find its latest revision before deletion, so I don't have to make all the edits again? I will only edit the Trademark Usage so it doesn't break the rules, I put it there just as a joke and thought that it would be obvious to everyone reading - apparently not. --𝕄⚠〒℞❍ℕ⟁𝕋♢☈ (talk) 22:23, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

I have undeleted it – please edit out the license restrictions. --ais523 22:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

C-INTERCAL with Funge-98 bug

I believe I found a bug in C-INTERCAL, when linking to Funge98. I have all libraries set up correctly, but I think there's some sort of encoding issue going on.

The relevant code is in handle_befunge98 in perpet.c:

for(;;)
{
  int c=getchar();
  if(c==EOF) break;
  if(c==0xB7)
  {
    /* Middot (0xB7) has special handling. */
    c='M';
    markerposns[markercount][0]=x;
    markerposns[markercount++][1]=y;
  }
  if(c=='\r') {jlb = 1; x=0; y++; c='\n';}
  else if(c=='\n' && jlb) {jlb = 0; continue;}
  else if(c=='\n') {x=0; y++; jlb = 0;}
  else x++;
  fprintf(of,"\\x%x",(unsigned int)c);
  if(!x) fprintf(of,"\"\n\"");
}

On my system, getchar() is returning -73 whenever it hits the middle dot. I was able to fix the issue by changing if(c==0xB7) to if(c==-73 || c==0xB7) and now it works perfectly.

I tried compiling this C program (named getchar.c, executable named getchar):

#include <stdio.h>

int main()
{
  int c=getchar();
  printf("%d", c);
  return 0;
}

I created a file named middle_dot.txt containing a single middle dot encoded in ANSI just like pit/tests/iffit2.b98 (the program I was testing Funge98 on). Then I ran cat middle_dot.txt | ./getchar and got the proper output 183, so it's not an issue with how WSL processes text. BoundedBeans (talk) 04:42, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

getchar() is documented to not be able to return negative numbers other than EOF (as long as int contains the range of unsigned char), so the only thing I can think of is that the wrong getchar() is being called somehow. There is a getc implementation in the lexer that could incorrectly return negative numbers on some platforms, and I can just-about see how getchar() might end up calling into that by mistake – try replacing char c_char; at around line 143 of src/lexer.l with unsigned char c_char and see whether that helps. Something else that might potentially help is to enclose the getchar in parentheses, i.e. int c=(getchar)() – that prevents the preprocessor replacing it with a call to some other function (which might potentially be the buggy getc). --ais523 05:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
I tried both methods, neither worked. It works completely fine if I add the check for -73 though.
I also have another unrelated question about the internals of C-INTERCAL. I know -e and -m are incompatible, and I know they both use setjmp/longjmp, but is there any incompatibility besides that external call code uses direct accesses to variables such as ick_onespots instead of going through ickmt_cur/the current thread? I ask because I'm considering modifying it to allow external calls and multithreading in the same program, and also CREATING some weird (I think very INTERCAL-like) operators that can create choicepoints and threads from within expressions. BoundedBeans (talk) 05:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
I am very confused, because -73 is not a valid return value from getchar (although it is 0xB7-256, making it very likely that something has gone wrong with data types somewhere); the only thing I can think of is that one of the fixes I suggested above theoretically helps, but that the build system is broken in a way that stopped the fix building correctly. As for your follow-up question, I no longer remember all the details of the incompatibility, but suspect that a large part of it is related to COME FROM; the external calls system can add extra COME FROMs to a program, and the multithreading code has special handling for COME FROMs that probably can't handle that sort of COME FROM. --ais523 01:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

the war

why do you keep trying to keep the aweosmian sphere of influence out of the sandbox? a better question: why cant you just make a Esolang:Sandbox/old and put the contents of the old sandbox there! tommyaweosme 18:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

This wiki is intended for documenting esoteric programming languages; in order to help that happen, we'd like new users who have created esolangs to be able to document them here. Some users aren't confident with editing, or don't fully understand how the syntax works, and need somewhere to test (e.g. there were several people testing <ref> tags recently because they weren't entirely sure how they work on the wiki). As such, having a page where they can test wiki syntax is important, because otherwise people might not be able to write their articles properly.
The previous state of the sandbox actively discouraged test edits – by being converted into a space for offtopic edits, with content that may have been offputting to some users and which people were edit-warring to keep, it was effectively making the wiki less open to new users from outside. Something that I often see in Internet communities is that the community ends up developing a culture of its own, disconnected from the original vision, and becomes too cliquish for other people to want to join, and then eventually the community ends up dying due to lack of new members. There were already a number of people who were concerned about the direction in which the Sandbox was going; I don't want to exclude those people by, in effect, saying that the content was important enough to be kept despite being unrelated to esoteric programming.
I guess my summary is: this is a wiki for documenting esoteric programming languages, and other aspects of esoteric programming. If you try to change the wiki to be about something else (like sandbox wars), then the people who care about esoteric programming won't have anywhere to be, and the languages will end up undocumented. --ais523 22:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
theres enough room for the two of them. its a big wiki, you know. tommyaweosme 01:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
1. You can use preview to test edits. 2. Why not automate cleaning the sandbox? --None1 11:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Sandbox page

After looking at the text at the top of the page, I chose to show only the preview for every sandbox edit, then deleted what I wanted to test and closed the page. I don't think anyone would have thought of it. --PrySigneToFry 2024年8月4日,21:35 农历七月初一 (CHN)

I often do that too, but sometimes the edit needs to exist in history for the test to work properly. --ais523 14:53, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Some question for you.

So how did your username from? (This question may seem offensive to you, and it is okay to answer it or not.) -- 2024年8月4日,21:19 农历七月初一 (CHN)

And, am I did wrong? I created an article that whole written in Chinese. -- 2024年8月4日,22:49 农历七月初一 (CHN)

huh

copyright much?

geez these laws are restictive.

bro really hating on the funnis just because its alien to this site.

their something you could easily find on basically every site but here.

tommyaweosme 01:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

THX:)

you've really helped a lot, with deleting pages that has been moved elsewhere answering my stupid questions ect. so thx! Yayimhere (talk) 14:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I might ! need an English page for .

You can translate it to English and make another page under . My page-name design is "哮/lang=EN-US". Tomorrow I'll go back to school so I don't have time. --PrySigneToFry 2024年9月1日,14:51 农历七月廿九 (CHN)

did you forget about labor day? --why dont you go eat yourself? twice as big or none at all...... 12:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
I've translated it in 哮/English version. --None1 13:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

i want everything to be pink

if you take a look at my user:tommyaweosme/common.css you will see my attempt at making everything pink and all the text purple.

unfortunately, it didnt work and half of the background elements are white and unclicked links are not purple.

can you please help me? thanks :D ✨ your help is appreciated --why dont you go eat yourself? twice as big or none at all...... 15:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

I haven't tested it, but you could try something like this:
* {background-color:pink !important; color:purple !important;}
That's normally the simplest way to override the color of everything. --ais523 15:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
OMG TYSM!!! ✨✨✨✨✨✨ :D :D :D :D --why dont you go eat yourself? twice as big or none at all...... 15:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

unbrick needed

i bricked myself on common.js.

i bricked myself so bad i needed to clear my cookies on this site and make a new account just to tell you this.

the captcha answer is 57896354, and heres how bad i screwed up:

hrefs, style, and script all 3 broke. i could do NOTHING

can you please fix it? i need to go back and document more esolangs.

thanks! Tommyaweosmalt (talk) 23:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

I've deleted your common.js page. After you bypass your cache, hopefully you'll be able to edit again. --ais523 10:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
tysm!! :D this is my signature: --why dont you go eat yourself? twice as big or none at all...... 13:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Examples for BubbleLang

I hope you can write a simple example(such as calculate the area of a circle, or "guessing number" game) in BubbleLang. --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年9月16日(星期一),00:10 农历八月十四 (CHN)

Is this appropriate?

I've re-created the Example page of BubbleLang. If it's still illegal, please delete it again. --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年9月16日(星期一),07:53 农历八月十四 (CHN)

The page looks OK now. --ais523 17:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
I know. And why don't you archive your talking page? --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年9月17日(星期二),09:34 农历八月十五 中秋节 (CHN)


I'm still a little too enthusiastic......

I didn't know your rules perfectly. Sorry. --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年9月16日(星期一),17:47 农历八月十四 (CHN)

Please check my Turing completeness proof for 2KWLang

Recently, I had written a TC proof for the language on its talk page, but I'm not confident with it. Could you please help me check the proof? --None1 (Nope.) 11:56, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Hmm...

"You can only upload public domain images here – typically this means that you created them yourself and are willing to give anyone the rights to use them. Images found elsewhere on the internet, or images created yourself but containing content from elsewhere on the Internet, are not appropriate." - But the file in question, [1], is released under the MIT license. I wonder what if: I copy that file and upload to this wiki and use as my own logo for the next language, which is a fantasy console/computer with audio and graphics, will ever get a copyright strike (removal of file and even a ban)? Thanks! MihaiEso (talk) 13:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

You can't upload MIT-licensed files here because they are not public domain. MIT-licensed files can be used by anyone if they comply with certain conditions – but this wiki does not comply with the conditions in question, so they can't be used here. --ais523 16:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
To clarify, the restriction in question is that you have to preserve the copyright notice (including the author's name), together with the license itself – and any restrictions at all prevent something being public domain. --ais523 18:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Turned in PIX, but only graphics support. Thanks! MihaiEso (talk) 18:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

My talking page

If I do something wrong, let me know on the "贰" section of my talk page. Don't forget to remove the placeholders! --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年9月21日(星期六),13:00(I just came back from the CS-P/J) 农历八月十九 (CHN)

I seem to think you're a decent admin

  1. At critical moments, you always seem calm and have the demeanor of a professional.
  2. When you do something wrong, you always revoke the wrong behavior and remind it.
  3. Many times, you can give some help to other users.

(I'm not pleasing you)

--红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年9月21日(星期六),18:52 农历八月十九 (CHN)

4. You're currently the only admin that is active. --None1 (Nope.) 10:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Some more questions

1

I'm at the mainland of China.

China's National Day is near from today now. Can you help me to make the background red and the text yellow? (Just give me that script, and unclicked links are orange(This may be impossible, but I wish you can try it)) --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年9月27日(星期五),19:38 农历八月廿五 (CHN)

Your talking about the whole esolang wiki or...?
User:Ractangle (Discord:belarusianflag)

I means whole esolang wiki that in my view. --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年9月27日(星期五),23:17 农历八月廿五 (CHN)
tbh i want to make a CSS that is only visible to me too
User:Ractangle (Discord:belarusianflag)

If you want to change the style of the wiki in your own view only, you can do so by editing Special:MyPage/common.css. In order to override the rules that the wiki already has in place, you will need to put a !important flag on your CSS rules, like this: * { background-color: red !important; color: yellow !important; }. --ais523 19:23, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
okay. but what about the links?
User:Ractangle (Discord:belarusianflag)

nevermind
User:Ractangle (Discord:belarusianflag)

I've tested that, but my eyes hurt. --None1 (Nope.) 10:56, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
tbh this is reminding me of that one theme from windows 3.1
User:Ractangle (Discord:belarusianflag)

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Should we make a page for the description for the page of "User"? --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年9月27日(星期五),19:39 农历八月廿五 (CHN)

Request category deletion

Please delete Category:Usable, it is an undiscussed and bad category. --None1 (Nope.) 10:23, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Done. --ais523 21:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Delete page

Please delete page Memorial language list, there's no point to have a list like that and the only language is a JOKE LANGUAGE. --None1 (Nope.) 14:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

(1) i also want this page deleted
User:Ractangle (Discord:belarusianflag)

grr r im making a 9/11 memorial language user:tommyaweosme 16:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Still useless --ChuckEsoteric08 (talk) 16:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Done. I've copied this discussion to the Talk:Memorial language list beacuse it explains why the page was deleted. --ais523 21:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Also delete the offtopic joke proof jail system makes no sense. The proof is wrong because the proof overloads = to be "be done", which isn't commutative, and then abuses the commutative property for the normal =, it's also offtopic for it has nothing to do with esolangs and computation theory. --None1 (Nope.) 11:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

ban tommyawsome

i have a few reasons to why i personally want tommy banned:

  • he said this: "for those coming in from pixilart, user:tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX, esolang:sandbox, consider making a new account and spamming 69784 wherever you can here". HE GETTING PPL TO SPAM
  • deleted my messages and did a fake "sorry auto deleted"("THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN DELETED BY THE TOMMY INC. FOUNDATION 2019-2024(c)") or wutever. you cant do that right?
  • make all the joke proof stuff
  • editing other ppl's talk stuff with out being allowed
  • so much off topic stuff
  • "i edit ur message and eat ur signature, replace with mine" see wut i mean

at least, would it be possible to block him from all my pages? im a little nervous that he will spam them cuz he's angry at me [xYayimhere (talk) 11:51, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[]!!!]

I totally agree with you. --None1 (Nope.) 12:52, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
I also agree with you --ChuckEsoteric08 (talk) 14:52, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
我必将把正义执行到底!愿各路天神前来相助!(我也同意Yayimhere的请求,我早就被tommyaweosme这个跳梁小丑给惹得红温了) --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年9月30日(星期一),23:45 农历八月廿八 (CHN)
He (ais523) did (block indefinitely) --None1 (Nope.) 07:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
It's indefinite, but not a full sitewide block – I blocked tommyaweosme from editing other users' User: and User talk: pages and the sandbox (and sent a warning that any further disruptive editing would lead to harsher block settings). Tommyaweosme is still allowed to edit constructively, but not disruptively or in an off-topic manner. I'm hoping that that will be enough; I don't like to entirely block people if they've made constructive contributions in the past (although of course it could happen if they continue to edit disruptively for long enough), and tommyaweosme has responded correctly to warnings in the past. Sometimes, blocking someone gives them time to reflect on their mistakes and causes them to behave better after they come back. --ais523 07:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
lets see then Yayimhere (talk) 15:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Block tommyaweosme‎‎

I have a few reasons to why you should block tommyaweosme‎‎ FOREVER.

  • It deletes Yayimhere's messages and puts this ("THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN DELETED BY THE TOMMY INC. FOUNDATION 2019-2024(c)"). BLOCK IT AND REVERT ALL VANDALISM.
  • It makes off-topic and joke stuff. DELETE NOW.
  • It edits talk messages from other people without being allowed. CLEARLY. BLOCK THIS OR FOLLOW THE RULES.
  • "i edit ur message and eat ur signature, replace with mine" - SEE THIS? DELETE NOW!
  • HE SAID THIS: "for those coming in from pixilart, user:tommyaweosme/BRING BACK THE OLD SANDBOX, esolang:sandbox, consider making a new account and spamming 69784 wherever you can here". HE'S GETTING PEOPLE TO SPAM. DON'T DO THIS. DELETE NOW!!

OR USE A ABUSE FILTER TO DETECT THIS AND DISALLOW. OR BLOCK FROM ALL THE Yayimhere's PAGES. tommyaweosme‎‎ SPAMS AND IS ANGRY AT YOU. Thanks for this! MihaiEso (talk) 13:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Yayimhere already said the above. Unname4798
"i edit ur message and eat ur signature, replace with mine" is deleted now! MihaiEso (talk) 15:24, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
no MihaiEso added comments to them Xff (talk) 15:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
My edit summary for reverting that type of vandalism, Reverting possible vandalism by Tommyaweosme. Revert if I made a mistake. Thanks, MihaiEso! is good or not? MihaiEso (talk) 15:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
See this: [2]. MihaiEso (talk) 15:42, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
thx! Xff (talk) 16:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

If you want, make this scarier.

My Esolang name suggestion is "Translate ORK/ais523". --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年10月1日(星期二),08:54 农历八月廿九 (CHN)

如果可以的话,试着使用简体中文发布您的回复。

我一直以为这个维基是一方净土,可以自由地编辑我所创作的语言,但是总是有一群跳梁小丑在那边胡作非为,干一些过分的事情。我希望这个维基页面少一点恶意用户和机器人账号,多一些好用户。 --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年10月1日 国庆节(星期二),17:29 农历八月廿九 (CHN)

do you think he understands Chinese?
User:Ractangle (Discord:belarusianflag)

Have you forgotten the translator? --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年10月1日 国庆节(星期二),21:28 农历八月廿九 (CHN)
I know a few words of Simplified Chinese, for example simple words like 上 下 个 (although I don't fully understand all the situations where it can be used) and 不, and a few slightly more complicated words like 点, 回 and 好. I don't know enough to read most text written in Simplified Chinese, nor to write it. --ais523 20:14, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
I stand corrected
User:Ractangle (Discord:belarusianflag)

By the time I was three years old, I was able to recognize many commonly used Chinese characters and read books with the help of pinyin. But I don't like to read fairy tales, and even if I were asked to read some legendary literature, I would only read mythology (Arabian Nights is a mythological work in Arabia). --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年10月2日(星期三),13:32 农历八月卅 (CHN)
There is no place that is absolutely clean. btw in the characters ais523 listed there are no nouns (although 点 can stand for "dot/point" as a noun). --None1 (Nope.) 23:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
一:"I felt like I was being insulted"
I didn't insult you. --None1 (Nope.) 23:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
I mean, 一 is one of the simplest Chinese character. --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年10月17日(星期四),20:05 农历九月十五 (CHN)
He said "like", which means he knows characters other than the ones that were listed, but perhaps they're simpler. --None1 (Nope.) 14:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

?

Why don't you delete the Dead categories from the Esolang page? I don't like the red link when I look at it. --红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年10月1日 国庆节(星期二),18:07 农历八月廿九 (CHN)

You can remove it yourself without an admin. --None1 (Nope.) 03:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete an image

File:Help me interpret this.png

Reasons:

  1. By excavating in the page history, I discovered that it wasn't public domain.
  2. Probably not esolang related.

--None1 (Nope.) 13:53, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Well noticed – I've deleted it. --ais523 16:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
what did the image contained
User:Gaham (Discord:belarusianflag)
Nonsense. --None1 (Nope.) 23:06, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh……

Through my observations of you during this time, I have noticed that you are not very active. Why is that?

通过这段时间对您的观察,我发现您不太活跃。这是为什么?

Prin observațiile mele despre tine în această perioadă, am observat că nu ești foarte activ. De ce se întâmplă asta?

--红军不怕远征难,万水千山只等闲。五岭逶迤腾细浪,乌蒙磅礴走泥丸。金沙水拍云崖暖,大渡桥横铁索寒。更喜岷山千里雪,三军过后尽开颜。 2024年10月18日(星期五),19:42 农历九月十六 (CHN)

He is literally a human. What did you expect?
User:Gaham (Discord:belarusianflag)

He has to sleep like everyone, and he has to work, too. --None1 (Nope.) 14:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

delete account

I can't find any way to anonymize or delete my account like on Wikipedia. I'm requesting here that my esolangs wiki account be deleted/anonymized, edits anonymized and my user page deleted.--TheThunderGuyS (talk) 02:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

why do you need your account deleted?
User:Gaham (Discord:belarusianflag)
MediaWiki doesn't support deleting accounts – I can't do it even with admin powers. But it's unclear what doing that would accomplish anyway. --ais523 14:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia has a system where you can "vanish" your account by changing the username to a random "Vanished account" name, deleting the user page and throwing away the password; but I can't do this myself because I can't change the username. Anyways, I would like for my account and edits to be anonymous or otherwise have the current username disappear for personal reasons, and I don't use the account anymore (also that's one less password to save). --TheThunderGuyS (talk) 21:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
OK, I have anonymised the account and deleted your userpage. --ais523 21:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)