User talk:None1

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Hey None1. I just saw your page Scratch is dumb and as an expert scratcher, I would like to know why you hate it so much. --Quito0567 (talk) 18:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

In fact, Scratch is very simple, and as a person who has IQ, I definitely know how to Scratch. However, I hate it in other reasons.

  1. It's really slow, even much slower than Python!
  2. It doesn't have a console, that means, you can't objectively tell if a Scratch program is correct or not without having to look at its code.
  3. It doesn't have ASCII table, which means if you want to use Scratch to output the alphabet, you need a list that contains all the letters. It doesn't even have line feeds, so you can't say multiline text.
  4. It's hard to distribute Scratch programs, you don't want to say "Before you use this program, you must install Scratch" when distributing a Scratch program.
  5. It's replacable by almost any other language. It can develop graphics programs quite easily, but using Pygame or Tkinter or stuff, you can created a more decent graphics program although you need more code in Python.
  6. It has completely no access to the filesystem. You might say, languages like brainfuck don't have access to filesystem either. But what if you pipe the output of brainfuck to a file!
  7. It has nothing special. Even brainfuck has something special, which is the fact that it inspired a lot of other esolangs.
  8. It has no use for showing your intellegence, even brainfuck can be used to prove that you're a smart person.

--None1 (talk) 11:48, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Despite the disadvantages above, I think Scratch is OK. But these disadvantages of course shows that Scratch is dumber and more useless than at least 90% of languages. And it is obviously dumber than brainfuck --None1 (talk) 12:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Brainfuck is not really something to be used for codegolfing. TwilightSparkle (talk) 12:51, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh. --None1 (talk) 12:56, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

But it is compared to Scratch, which is completely unusable in codegolfing (because Scratch programs are not textual). --None1 (talk) 11:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

To be clarified about dislike of Scratch

I think it is OK for others to write Scratch programs, it is even OK for someone to like Scratch. But my dislike is only the language itself. Although Scratch is pretty useless in general use, it is still Turing complete because you can write a console-free brainfuck interpreter in it. It (refers to my dislike of Scratch) might be confusing XD. --None1 (talk) 12:10, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I also dislike people who dislike people who dislike Scratch. --None1 (talk) 12:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

The "useless and idiotic" in my user page only means that Scratch is "useless and idiotic" in general use (like writing tools). But for fun or implementing very simple esolangs (like Nil), it isn't. So it's useless and idiotic after all. --None1 (talk) 12:19, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I also think that people that only know Scratch is idiotic. --None1 (talk) 12:27, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Note: I dislike Ruby more than Scratch, as it would be hard for me to understand Ruby programs.

I see. Thank you for the detailed explanation. :D --Quito0567 (talk) 17:54, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Temporary images to be transcribed

Could you help me? Are you able to access Deviant Art? I would like you to help upload the images from the links at the bottom of the "" main page to the "" wiki website. I will then have the users on the wiki website work on transcribing the images. In the future I may ask you for more images, but that was what they currently want. Periotun (talk) 14:00, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, although I can access, I found that I can't access the links at bottom of it. --None1 (talk) 13:17, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

None1, there's a Deadfish derivative now.

Hi None1, check out my language: Deadfish++ ~ Europe2048 (talk) 20:59, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I see. :D --None1 (talk) 22:45, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

And I made a quine in it! --None1 (talk) 13:44, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

A message to you

Hi None1, I wanted to create 3 bits, 3 bytes first but you beat me to it. I understand that a lot of people would think of that idea after seeing 2 bits, 1 byte. Because I can't make 3 bits, 3 bytes first now, can I please make 4 bits, 8 bytes first? --TheBigH (talk) 20:02, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

OK --None1 (talk) 13:34, 22 October 2023 (UTC)


I might try making quines in as many of your esolangs as possible --PkmnQ (talk) 14:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. --None1 (talk) 04:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

About My Esolang

Here is my Esolang, I hope you can watch it. It is 中文(简体,中国大陆). Try to write a Quine in it. --PrySigneToFry(Talk) 22:18, 2024 March 25th (UTC+8)

OK. But I'm not sure if I can write a quine in it. --None1 (talk) 23:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Even the 文言 has a quine, why did the Modern Chinese hasn't? --PrySigneToFry(Talk) 15:14, 2024 April 5th (UTC+8)

The specification of this esolang is incomplete, and there seems to be no way to print quotes, or the string [换行]. Nor can it print a character by character code (e.g.: Unicode) But I didn't say that a quine doesn't exist. --None1 (talk) 10:26, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

I know. --PrySigneToFry(Talk) 22:39, 2024 April 10th (UTC+8)