Talk:SeedFuck Improved

Ha! But not very usable still. Each generation must contain []-balanced brainfuck expression, so building sensible inner loops is a challenge. Turing-completeness is questionable. You should have rejected the third proposal for the sake of provable Turing-completeness. --Blashyrkh (talk) 07:19, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

I think this is brainfuck-equivalent even with the third proposal, because unmatched ]'s only exist when there are no unmatched ['s. --None1 (Nope.) 08:08, 16 February 2026 (UTC):

I probably expressed inaccurately. Try to write anything with nested loops (self-interpreter or brainfuck interpreter or anything as complex as they are A+B should be enough), you'll see what I mean. The more nesting level sane and complex expression inside a loop is needed, the more you have to rely on pseudo-random generator quality. You can't just increase number of seeds because it's impossible to have [ generated by one seed and the corresponding ] generated by the other one. The whole loop (and all it contents) must be generated by one seed. --Blashyrkh (talk) 08:43, 16 February 2026 (UTC)