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I think that a subset of hardf*** (the subset not including @ and /) is almost exactly equivalent to brainf***. That leads me to believe that hardf*** is almost undoubtedly Turing-complete. Kerbal (talk) 19:01, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Some of the descriptions say "before the pointer" and "after the pointer", but I don't know if is a mistake or is supposed to be like that. --Zzo38 (talk) 01:11, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
I didn't see some of those cases. I think that the "before pointer" and "after pointer" things are intentional; they apparently make the language harder. They have little effect upon the language in the long run (other than being a bit confusing, which may be the point). They don't radically change the data structures or computational class or anything like that. Kerbal (talk) 01:21, 2 July 2017 (UTC)