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01:52:39 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/move]] move * HereToAnnoy * moved [[Ephermal]] to [[Ephemeral]]: Fix typo by A
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04:11:30 <A__> I have not been talking here, so I will post a message just to get used to IRC... please don't mind.
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06:39:30 <shachaf> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.10193.pdf
06:39:38 <shachaf> spoilers for the witness hth
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11:12:46 <esowiki> [[Turing Machine But Way Worse]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62245&oldid=61896 * RealUndefined * (+475) /* Programs */ real cat program
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11:42:53 <myname> i like that name
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12:13:40 <Taneb> Well, I haven't magically learnt how to play NetHack
12:19:08 <int-e> Hmm, isn't that the game that you start, and then after pressing a couple of keys you get an ASCII tombstone? Never saw the point in that ;-)
12:19:35 <myname> i really want to learn cataclysm dda
12:19:40 <myname> but i am way too lazy
12:22:18 <Taneb> Dance Dance Activism, a prequel to Dance Dance Revolution
12:23:12 <FireFly> haha
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12:30:03 <myname> i mean, a roguelike where you can ride a bicycle. what more can you wish for
12:30:20 <int-e> roguecycle
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12:43:59 <Taneb> A few years ago for a Ludum Dare some uni friends made a roguelike with playable classes "Dog", "Miner", "Attorney", and playable races "Quarterling" and "Dutch"
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12:47:24 <Taneb> I think they decided this by asking me while I was working on a submarine explorer game which I never really got anywhere with
12:47:30 <myname> i would totally play that
12:47:51 <myname> dutch attorney sounds like an op character
12:47:54 <Taneb> https://github.com/HackSoc/LudumDare29
12:48:13 <int-e> a quarterling attorney has only half a leg to stand on?
12:48:55 <Taneb> A quarterling is like a halfling but more
12:49:28 <Taneb> There's also "clog maker", "chef", "huntsman", and "tourist" classes
12:49:59 <int-e> Yeah I think I got "quarterling" just fine. But that wasn't remotely funny.
12:50:34 <int-e> Tourists are scary (at least the Discworld kind. The plural may be a bit of a stretch though.)
12:51:12 <int-e> @google Twoflower
12:51:13 <lambdabot> https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/Twoflower
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13:18:01 <myname> i am interested in what people do with location or activity based games
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13:30:29 <Taneb> What do you mean by that?
13:31:14 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62247&oldid=62244 * A * (+192) Draft a mystery language
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13:33:21 <myname> pokemon go/ingress/delta t/jurassic park world/...
13:34:38 <Taneb> Ah, right
13:34:50 <Taneb> I stopped playing Pokemon Go because I couldn't decide a team and then my inventory got fulk
13:34:53 <Taneb> *full
13:35:32 <myname> i dislike it for being neither a good pokemon game nor a good location based game
13:36:14 <myname> games living solely on the underlying IP are not my cup of tea
13:37:18 <myname> niantic is pretty bad at making good games
13:40:15 <myname> i stumbled upon orna by accident. i like the idea, but it is lacking content imho
13:42:18 <myname> i'd love having a framework for something similar
13:43:17 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62249&oldid=62248 * A * (+894) /* Syntax */
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13:53:12 <esowiki> [[Talk]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=62253 * A * (+1411) Created page with "Believe it or not, it is inspired by part of [[User talk:Helen|Helen's user talk]]. {{infobox proglang |name=Talk |paradigms=imperative |author=[[User:A]] |year=:Category:20..."
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17:45:31 <rain1> `ls
17:45:33 <HackEso> ​- \ :#,_@ \ bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ f \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ izash.c \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quinor \ quotes \ share \ src \ test2 \ testfile \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom
17:45:53 <rain1> `ls /
17:45:54 <HackEso> bin \ dev \ etc \ hackenv \ lib \ lib64 \ proc \ sbin \ srv \ sys \ tmp \ usr
17:45:59 <rain1> `cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spec_store_bypass
17:46:00 <HackEso> cat: /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spec_store_bypass: No such file or directory
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18:04:53 <int-e> meh, all those mitigations...
18:05:08 <int-e> rain1: did you see https://make-linux-fast-again.com/
18:06:05 <int-e> ...instead of all these mitigations how about we don't run untrusted code... sure, it means disabling javascript in the browser but what possible harm can that do?!?!
18:06:30 <shachaf> Do you like this?
18:06:36 <int-e> no
18:06:39 <int-e> I wanna cry.
18:06:46 <zemhill_______> web.test: points -7.45, score 15.49, rank 35/47
18:07:08 <shachaf> do you yearn for the old days when everything was predictable
18:07:08 <int-e> Because as far as I can see Javascript is the sole reason why I should care about these vulnerabilities at all... it's my desktop.
18:07:23 <rain1> agreed
18:07:25 <zemhill_______> web.test: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-12)
18:07:48 <shachaf> I think computers being able to run general-purpose code is a pretty great feature
18:08:04 <shachaf> You might say it's the distinguishing feature of computers
18:08:20 <int-e> Sure, if it's my code, or application code that I actually deliberately invoked myself.
18:08:27 <shachaf> It's a shame to require you to trust that code.
18:08:46 <int-e> But that should be a privilege, not something given out nilly-willy to random foreign websites.
18:09:18 <int-e> It's a bad world :/
18:11:27 <shachaf> Why?
18:11:41 <int-e> Because of the people, I think.
18:13:29 <shachaf> I think being able to run untrusted code is a pretty great feature.
18:20:32 <int-e> Well at least let's shove it into some place where it doesn't share any resources (including bus) with any important stuff.
18:22:45 <shachaf> sgtm
18:22:50 <shachaf> write it all in FRACTRAN
18:22:55 <shachaf> that'll be safe for sure
18:23:48 <fizzie> Maybe they can put a smaller computer inside your computer for running untrusted code.
18:23:59 <fizzie> Computers are pretty cheap.
18:24:33 <shachaf> Chrome has a process per tab, but a computer per tab sounds like a much better plan.
18:24:56 <int-e> The people who're really screwed are VPS providers (or their users, depending on how you look at it).
18:25:18 <shachaf> virtual private scow
18:25:25 <int-e> @bot
18:25:26 <lambdabot> :)
18:25:40 <int-e> that's on a VPS (of course?)
18:25:44 <shachaf> Fortunately lambdabot holds no confidential information.
18:25:59 <int-e> . o O ( who can @tell? )
18:26:28 <int-e> But mostly, yes, that's the attitude I'm taking with it as well.
18:26:53 <shachaf> Speaking of scow, I'm pretty surprised at how complicated it is to get a program that shows simple graphics and runs its loop at a predictable 1/60 s latency.
18:27:03 <shachaf> In X11 with OpenGL, at least.
18:27:06 <shachaf> Is it even possible?
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19:22:22 <kmc> data is code anyway
19:23:23 <shachaf> that's why X11 ids are only 29 bits
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20:01:46 <john_metcalf> The BF Joust hill opened 10 years ago (May 2009). Didn't realise it'd been so long!
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20:34:32 <int-e> ^bf ,[.,]!ABC
20:34:32 <fungot> ABC
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21:38:05 <fizzie> @tell oerjan We're hoping for your song to win.
21:38:06 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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22:40:16 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * TriMill * New user account
22:40:43 <int-e> yay I've made bitch programming managable. https://github.com/int-e/bitch/blob/master/examples/brainfuck.pp results in https://github.com/int-e/bitch/blob/master/examples/brainfuck
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22:47:05 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62256&oldid=62175 * Int-e * (+351) /* Sketch: A RAM Machine */ Brainfuck! (but no closer to TC)
23:05:35 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62257&oldid=62215 * TriMill * (+399) /* Introductions */
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