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00:00:06 <shachaf> well, i wanted to show off how it prints the signal when the program is killed
00:00:13 <shachaf> otherwise it prints the exit status
00:00:48 <shachaf> anyway why doesn't my shell save the time and rusage of every command i run and show it to me if i ask
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00:01:03 <kmc> ah
00:01:34 <shachaf> answer: because shells are scow and run inside a terminal for no great reason so they can't have a good ui
00:02:07 <shachaf> you might as well ask why my shell doesn't let me have multiple commands running at once without interleaving their output. same answer.
00:02:08 <kmc> whatever
00:02:15 <kmc> I need to find something to do to not feel awful :(
00:02:25 <shachaf> that's true
00:03:36 * int-e should go for a walk outside.
00:03:43 <shachaf> maybe get really mad at some people on the internet?
00:03:55 <shachaf> man, that's a completely unconstructive thing to say
00:04:01 <shachaf> not sure what the point was
00:05:24 <kmc> idk
00:05:48 <kmc> i've been an asshole to you enough times for no reason, you can have a turn
00:06:02 <kmc> but i really haven't been getting really mad at people on the internet very much lately
00:07:09 <kmc> i haven't left the house today, maybe i should change that
00:07:40 <shachaf> yes
00:09:44 <orin> I once had the idea of a shell that would make seperate onscreen "windows" for each comand you ran
00:10:01 <orin> Then I realized that's just called a terminal
00:10:26 <shachaf> I think it's more like, the terminal and the shell are integrate, and each command gets its own region of the terminal that you can scroll and search separately and so on.
00:10:32 <shachaf> And maybe its own pty.
00:10:37 <shachaf> integrated
00:11:18 <kmc> this wireless keyboard I bought less than two weeks ago says it's tested on debian 3.1, redhat 9.0, ubuntu 8.10 and fedora 7.0
00:12:15 <shachaf> Debian Stable is already at 3.2! So out of date.
00:12:27 <orin> the danish word for week is pronounced like uwu
00:12:56 <shachaf> What's the Danish word for "fternooner"?
00:12:57 <kmc> how is it spelled
00:13:27 <kmc> "Step1: Keep your PC on, and be sure the keyboard is full of power."
00:14:09 <orin> uge, apparently
00:18:33 <shachaf> I feel like I should stop using libc as much as possible on Linux.
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00:41:21 <esowiki> [[User:ZirconiumX]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62152&oldid=26724 * ZirconiumX * (-29)
01:10:26 <oerjan> . o O ( int-e seems to be in denial about the difference between Egypt and India )
01:10:37 <int-e> oerjan: so I am
01:11:32 <int-e> Pr maybe I mixed up Nile and Ganges. You pick.
01:11:59 <int-e> (that is actually closer to the truth)
01:12:34 <shachaf> You mixed up Egypt and India, and you mixed up Nile and Ganges. And also you thought the Ganges was in Egypt.
01:13:49 <int-e> no.
01:16:17 <shachaf> whoa, <2^70 chosen prefix collision on SHA1
01:16:31 <oerjan> `append_wisdom shachaf We don't like this.
01:16:32 <HackEso> ​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: append_wisdom: not found
01:16:35 <oerjan> oops
01:16:48 <oerjan> `learn_append shachaf We don't like this.
01:16:50 <HackEso> Learned 'shachaf': Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions. We don't like this.
01:17:01 <shachaf> Wait, I ask too many questions?
01:17:25 <shachaf> Uh, s/I/did I/
01:18:25 <oerjan> shachamnesia
01:18:56 <oerjan> my addition isn't _really_ related to the previous sentence btw
01:19:18 <shachaf> `? zzo38
01:19:19 <HackEso> zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem.
01:19:38 <oerjan> except in so far as it implies you ask one _particular_ question too much.
01:21:40 <int-e> hmm "The SHA1 hashes are large enough that the odds of accidental hash collision are negligible for projects that could be handled by the human race. The known weaknesses in SHA1 are currently still not practical to attack, and Mercurial will switch to SHA256 hashing before that becomes a realistic concern."
01:22:15 <shachaf> oerjan: Well, that's not too many questions, at least.
01:22:24 <pikhq> Bit late for that.
01:22:24 <shachaf> It may be too many instances of the same question.
01:22:53 <shachaf> `? hg
01:22:54 <HackEso> hg is dark alchemy used by oerjan to fix things. Like most alchemy, it involves drinking mercury.
01:23:23 <shachaf> hg + u = hug
01:24:36 <int-e> hmm, did I miss this or forget? https://github.blog/2017-03-20-sha-1-collision-detection-on-github-com/
01:26:05 <shachaf> Did you miss this?
01:29:54 * oerjan swats shachaf -----###
01:30:24 <int-e> the git folks are visibly working on it at least.
01:30:46 <shachaf> I wish people hadn't given up on version control as soon as git came out.
01:30:59 <shachaf> There are all sorts of things git isn't great at.
01:34:08 <int-e> I have this strange feeling of deja vu right now.
01:39:07 <shachaf> Yep.
01:39:21 <shachaf> I keep saying these things and people keep using git anyway. How dare they?
01:39:52 <shachaf> (People including me.)
01:39:54 <int-e> the good is the enemy of the perfect
01:41:20 <int-e> or, using your favorite phrase: git is tg
01:42:55 <shachaf> Do you like io_uring?
01:42:58 <shachaf> I do!
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02:46:10 <westonian> Just checked the logs, "<int-e> westonian: did you write this by hand or did you use any automatic approach like genetic programming or the like?"
02:46:31 <westonian> Yes it was a generic algorithm.
02:48:36 <westonian> I first wrote it 5 years ago for this https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/37137/15982
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02:55:50 <westonian_> At the time I couldn't cope with the shorthand. I was attempting to expand which meant I couldn't train against NyurokiMagicalFantasy and a couple of others.
02:56:39 <westonian_> This time I did that and evolved against all bots and using mostly correct Markov scoring
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03:57:55 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62153&oldid=62143 * A * (+27) /* Binary to unary conversion */
03:59:49 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62154&oldid=62145 * A * (+7) /* The compilation probably failed */
04:00:27 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62155&oldid=62154 * A * (+7) /* Bitch might be Turing-incomplete */
04:03:05 <Hooloovo0> well, they're bad at IRC, but they seem to lurk a lot on stack exchange
04:09:23 <esowiki> [[A:;]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62156&oldid=58819 * A * (+195)
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06:27:56 <esowiki> [[Bf core]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62157&oldid=49810 * Total Vacuum * (+13)
06:28:08 <esowiki> [[Uf]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62158&oldid=61151 * Total Vacuum * (+13)
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10:05:26 <esowiki> [[A:;]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62159&oldid=62156 * A * (+5)
10:09:37 <esowiki> [[User:A]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62160&oldid=61915 * A * (+13)
10:09:52 <esowiki> [[User talk:A]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62161&oldid=61482 * A * (+14)
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10:45:35 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bf core]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62162&oldid=57894 * A * (-166) Blanked the page
11:12:11 <esowiki> [[Owk]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62163&oldid=43315 * YamTokTpaFa * (+24) +CAT
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12:02:20 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bf core]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62164&oldid=62162 * Total Vacuum * (+310)
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12:11:06 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62165&oldid=62155 * A * (+966) Impossible: Bootstrapping
12:11:48 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62166&oldid=62165 * A * (+1) /* Incapability of bitch implementing Popular problems */
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12:19:29 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62167&oldid=62166 * A * (+1127) /* Incapability of bitch implementing Popular problems */
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12:25:15 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62168&oldid=62153 * A * (+235) /* Impossible */
12:25:46 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62169&oldid=62168 * A * (+0) Bootstrapping is impossible
12:26:40 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62170&oldid=62169 * A * (-15) /* Popular Problem solutions in bitch */
12:29:21 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62171&oldid=62170 * A * (+28) /* Impossible */
12:31:34 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62172&oldid=62171 * A * (+129) A lot of programs are impossible
12:33:40 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62173&oldid=62167 * A * (+86) /* Possible with Adjustments */
12:42:07 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62174&oldid=62173 * A * (+104) /* Possible with Adjustments */
12:42:26 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62175&oldid=62174 * A * (-18) /* Possible with Adjustments */
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13:01:14 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bf core]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62176&oldid=62164 * Total Vacuum * (+4)
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14:01:33 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62177&oldid=62172 * A * (+104) bitch only has unbounded integers supported, and is thus strong and static typed.
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14:07:10 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62178&oldid=62177 * A * (-3)
14:07:30 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62179&oldid=62178 * A * (+9)
14:08:19 <esowiki> [[Keys]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=62180 * A * (+123) Created page with "[[Keys]] is a joke language created by [[User:A]]. [[Category:Joke languages]] [[Category:2019]] [[Category:Unimplemented]]"
14:10:00 <esowiki> [[Keys]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62181&oldid=62180 * A * (+267)
14:12:26 <esowiki> [[Keys]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62182&oldid=62181 * A * (+329)
14:14:15 <esowiki> [[Keys]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62183&oldid=62182 * A * (+318) /* Example programs */
14:17:08 <esowiki> [[Joke language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62184&oldid=61707 * A * (+24) /* General languages */
14:21:27 <esowiki> [[Basilisk]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62185&oldid=42996 * A * (+399) /* Sample programs */
14:24:07 <esowiki> [[Basilisk]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62186&oldid=62185 * A * (+8) /* Computational class */
14:25:50 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Yper * New user account
14:25:53 <esowiki> [[Basilisk]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62187&oldid=62186 * A * (-154) Nope
14:30:50 <esowiki> [[Talk:Basilisk]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=62188 * A * (+277) Ask a question
14:31:01 <esowiki> [[Talk:Basilisk]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62189&oldid=62188 * A * (-77) /* Process of executing a program */
14:41:14 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62190&oldid=62104 * Yper * (+418) /* Introductions */
14:41:46 <esowiki> [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62191&oldid=60731 * Yper * (+117) /* Interpreters in plain C */
14:42:17 <esowiki> [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62192&oldid=62191 * Yper * (+111) /* JIT Interpreters */
14:45:18 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62193&oldid=62190 * Yper * (+0) /* Introductions */
14:47:05 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bf core]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62194&oldid=62176 * Total Vacuum * (+89)
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17:19:55 <shachaf> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyaqGDQXUAAwYQo.jpg
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17:31:45 <Phantom_Hoover> wtf is a zig
17:34:55 <shachaf> for great justice
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22:27:46 <orin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDeFb4Jc2VA
22:38:07 <adu> is that kpop
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23:35:37 <shachaf> how bad of an idea is this, twh
23:35:48 <shachaf> #if THING; if (...) { ... }; #else; if (...) { ... }; #endif; else { ... }
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23:51:20 <kmc> bad
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