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Are you going to use this software too? 01:33:33 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 01:56:17 -!- atslash has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 02:04:22 -!- Frater_EST has joined. 02:04:36 -!- Frater_EST has left. 03:00:05 -!- FreeFull has quit. 03:16:56 -!- tromp has joined. 03:21:39 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 03:46:51 -!- tromp has joined. 03:51:33 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 04:02:48 Does any program for PC with CGA set the width to 64 columns in order to allow faster scrolling? 04:16:07 Can I make it in Linux so that a user has a permission to read and write a file but not to delete it? 04:18:36 (I want to prevent it from being deleted so that it is not recreated with incorrect permissions.) 04:22:18 It seem the sticky bit might help. But will SQLite work correctly if it fails to delete the WAL file? 04:30:27 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 04:40:17 -!- APic has joined. 04:41:20 -!- tromp has joined. 04:45:27 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:59:00 -!- xkapastel has joined. 04:59:26 -!- S_Gautam has joined. 05:35:32 Now the NNTP is available. 05:35:41 Now you can see if it is good, perhaps. 05:36:30 hezzo38 05:36:37 Why is text rendering so complicated? 05:45:06 Because they make a mess with it, mostly. They make it complicated even when it should not need to be. 05:46:42 How would you make it not complicated? 05:47:29 Well, it depend what you are trying to do it with; omit the parts that are unnecessary for your use. 05:48:08 For typesetting I think what TeX does is suitable. For screen text, the X core text mechanism is usually sufficient. 05:48:19 I want to make a program with a GUI. 05:48:29 That means people might use all sorts of languages and things. 05:50:21 Yes, you should then consider right to left as well as left to right, and marks to add on top and that stuff, but other than that you should probably just to avoid the other complicated stuff, since you will not need them. Even in a GUI program, it depend on the program, what you need it to do. 05:50:49 One text rendering system will not work for everyone, and if you try it will just be complicated and messy and won't always work properly. 05:51:41 What if I want to support Arabic? 05:52:03 Then you should add the right to left mode 05:52:26 Right to left is the easy (?) part of supporting Arabic. 06:20:54 -!- tromp has joined. 06:21:40 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Zane * New user account 06:25:16 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 257 seconds). 06:30:31 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61320&oldid=60987 * Zane * (+222) /* Introductions */ 06:54:14 -!- tromp has joined. 06:58:37 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 07:00:56 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 07:07:57 -!- S_Gautam has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 07:15:43 -!- tromp has joined. 07:22:21 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 07:24:59 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 07:32:52 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 07:38:00 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 08:44:47 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 09:07:56 -!- Vorpal has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net). 09:52:19 -!- FraterEST has joined. 10:16:24 -!- SignX has joined. 10:16:25 -!- SignX has quit (Client Quit). 10:17:10 -!- SignX has joined. 10:17:13 -!- atslash has joined. 11:05:12 http://golf.horse/ 11:11:54 -!- FraterEST has left. 11:26:15 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 11:39:33 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 11:47:42 -!- tromp has joined. 11:55:42 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 257 seconds). 11:55:58 -!- tromp has joined. 12:07:40 -!- xkapastel has joined. 12:17:00 -!- FreeFull has joined. 12:20:07 -!- arseniiv has joined. 12:28:26 -!- b_jonas has joined. 12:28:59 " Can I make it in Linux so that a user has a permission to read and write a file but not to delete it?" => yes. put the file in a directory where the user does not have write permissions to the directory, but has execute permissions. 14:15:06 `? de 14:15:08 De is the counterpart to code, often called the header. 14:16:50 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 14:57:18 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 14:58:11 -!- atslash has joined. 15:13:49 `? rogue one 15:13:50 Any regular who gives the slightest Rogue One spoiler shall be hunted down in real life and have their intestines removed through their eye sockets. Members would not be exempt if they existed, which they don't. 15:14:00 hppavilion: is that still active? 15:14:05 `? the last jedi 15:14:07 the last jedi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 15:24:20 `? solo 15:24:21 solo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 15:24:28 `? rise of the skywalker 15:24:29 rise of the skywalker? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 16:12:55 -!- xkapastel has joined. 16:20:45 `forget pike 16:20:47 Forget what? 16:25:21 `? member 16:25:22 I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to know about them, anyway. 16:26:54 `? ursala 16:26:55 ​~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=≪+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, 16:27:31 wat 16:28:31 myname: Ursala is a language that is supposedly non-esoteric, in that one person, its creator, uses it for real stuff 16:29:06 you know, sort of like blsq, which is also only used by its creator, but that does qualify as an esoteric language 16:29:12 stupid traditions making these distinctions 17:09:36 is it morally ok if I abused lambdabot’s @tell outside this channel? 17:10:29 (if it works with someone not joined here; I didn’t check yet) 17:12:23 `? regular 17:12:24 regular? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 17:12:28 `? regulars 17:12:29 regulars? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 17:12:34 `? regular expression 17:12:35 regular expression? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 17:12:50 `? pcre 17:12:51 pcre? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 17:29:02 `` zcat /usr/share/man/man1/dc.1.gz | nroff -mandoc -rLL=999n -rLT=999n 2>/dev/null | sed -e 's/\./.\n/g;s/\x1b\[[^m]*m//g' | grep 'Assuming that' 17:29:03 ​ Assuming that (UCHAR_MAX+1) is 256 (as it is on most machines with 8-bit bytes), the sequence KSK0k1/_1Ss [ls*]Sxd0>x [256~Ssd0qaPlxx] dsxxsx0sqLqsxLxLK+k could also accomplish this function. 17:29:11 (That Ursula snippet reminded me of that gem.) 17:35:57 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:37:36 [[User talk:Helen]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61321&oldid=61313 * Helen * (-481) 17:39:28 ...reimplantation is probably something slightly different than what I meant. <-- i barely even noticed hth 18:05:10 -!- SignX has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 18:14:00 zombie gods? seriously? 18:22:22 `before wisdom/pike 18:22:25 wisdom/pike//Pike is an interpreted language that got sort of forgotten among the four big mainstream p-languages (perl, python, ruby, php). 18:22:57 BRAAAAAAAINS also ichor 18:23:47 -!- Melvar has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 18:25:28 (if it works with someone not joined here; I didn’t check yet) <-- they will only be told if they speak in a channel where lambdabot also is, and if they're not in one they might be very confused much later when they do 18:33:12 [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61322&oldid=61299 * Helen * (+2029) /* Alternative memory structures */ Added a section on alternative memory structures 18:34:03 [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61323&oldid=61322 * Helen * (+4) /* Alternative memory structures */ Small formatting error 18:42:06 [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61324&oldid=61323 * Helen * (+23) /* Loading the value of a cell */ Small fix to loading algorithm 18:58:58 `? space elevator 18:59:00 Like the shorter and more familiar strings of stringed musical instruments, the cable of a space elevator has a natural resonant frequency. 19:02:04 my hon. and learned friend fungot, when will you fund building a space elevator? 19:02:04 b_jonas: about his hat dirty. an old factory lost two! i would say you came up here that is not much happens. 19:04:38 i can understand fungot would be reluctant to fund another space elevator if they've already lost two 19:04:38 oerjan: what the hell is that? my, that is a smart mouth you have. it plays a role in the outcome of the kids' game session. 19:05:09 fungot: and yours is dirty tdnh 19:05:09 oerjan: and so it would continue. time to get this way rude hunger is so ill-mannered it would be a life that i guess you have inadvertently left your room. you of course. 19:05:24 ^style 19:05:24 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck* ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube 19:06:37 ^style ss 19:06:37 Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) 19:07:03 fungot: prithee be more polite, wilst thou? 19:07:03 oerjan: 1.warder. who's there? 19:10:30 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 19:11:53 fungot 19:11:53 kmc: lear. come, come, you fnord fogges, drawne by the fnord 19:12:02 hmm, did shakespeare coin the word fnord? 19:18:21 -!- Melvar has joined. 19:21:28 -!- S_Gautam has joined. 19:23:39 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 19:26:16 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 19:35:41 What is the frequency of a space elevator? 19:37:20 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 19:42:55 zzo38: of the style that's made of impossibly tough material, we can't really say, because we don't have such a material so we don't know its properties 19:46:04 for the one made of particles being continuously shot up and fall down, the frequency is probably the reciprocial of the time it takes for each particle to go a full circle, in order of magnitude, so I'd guess between a minute and an hour 19:54:13 Do you like my new NNTP service? It was set up yesterday, so there are no messages so far 19:55:19 I'm still too young for NNTP 19:55:31 I didn't use usenet when I was younger, and don't feel like starting now 19:55:39 we just had mailing lists and web forums 19:55:50 and also mailing list mirrors of newsgroups and web mirrors of newsgroups 19:57:47 It is not Usenet, but is Unusenet. Also, I implemented a POSTQUIT command for convenience of users who are not using NNTP software; you can prepare your message in another file, with POSTQUIT on the first line and a dot by itself on the last line, and then just send it. If there is an error it will immediately terminate and not try to interpret the rest of your message as commands. 20:02:26 (Also, it is Y2K compliant. The old Usenet wasn't Y2K compliant.) 20:26:48 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 21:01:11 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 21:11:08 [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61325&oldid=61324 * TuxCrafting * (+352) oops 21:25:42 `ysaclist 21:25:43 ysaclist: boily shachaf 21:28:27 I was not engaged in NNTP and Usenet myself, actually. Only recently I implemented it. 21:34:11 Fun Usenet fact: Finland had two competing Usenet group hierarchies, "finet" and "sfnet". 21:47:35 What do they have now? 22:04:26 I think "sfnet" shut down not too long ago. It was managed in vaguely the same way the big 8, so you couldn't just create groups there; "finet" is more like alt.* in that respect. 22:04:48 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 22:05:35 -!- atslash has joined. 22:24:30 my hon. and learned friend fungot, how many battles of beer do you have on the wall? 22:24:31 b_jonas: husband. thank you. i thank you. my lady would not lose him for more than fifty years. in 1180, however, set them free. after a fnord upon her, not leaue her token: she is sphericall, like a forked radish, with a wofull ballad made to his mistresse eye-brow. then, tell us e'en now, that strew the greene lap of faire king richard, ratcliffe, louel. 22:40:52 [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61326&oldid=61325 * Helen * (+375) /* Bitch is probably Turing-incomplete */ Apologies for unclearness 23:00:17 -!- danieljabailey has joined. 23:00:59 -!- S_Gautam has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 23:21:46 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 23:26:53 -!- MDude has joined. 23:32:44 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Rous * New user account 23:43:29 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61327&oldid=61320 * Rous * (+79) 23:43:58 [[Test esolang]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=61328 * Rous * (+33) Created page with "" 23:45:48 [[Test esolang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61329&oldid=61328 * Rous * (-33) Blanked the page 23:58:32 what is the spacex launch thing doing?