< 1554940892 365893 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is hard. Maybe: ... will eventually have on-invent haventa a time machine forwhen presooning inventwentaa pre-Taneb. < 1554940906 975511 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aa -> a) < 1554940958 411419 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Douglas Adams wasn't Tolkien. Tolkien would probably have worked out an actual grammar rather than making up some patterns on the spot. :P) < 1554940994 48891 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkjozfrsqyidunrs JOIN :#esoteric < 1554941390 258853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've almost resigned to just buying the Baba game, because of all the talk about it here. < 1554942096 500909 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.200.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1554942138 6551 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay peer pressure < 1554942600 122520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? baba < 1554942601 259339 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :baba? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1554942615 665013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Baba is fizzie < 1554942616 570644 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1554942633 524453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baba is just you < 1554942670 822049 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is baba is you < 1554942674 928130 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why is everyone talking about it < 1554942735 389729 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1554942917 3710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a videogame/esolang (but more a videogame than esolang). There's a slightly stubby article in the esolangs wiki about it though. < 1554942964 574913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You push things around, but some of those things are the words that tell the world how to behave. < 1554942969 187650 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1554942971 277903 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check it out < 1554942989 755060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also very frustrating to watch other people to play it, at least for me. < 1554943006 518110 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a nice way of putting it. ("World, behave!") < 1554943049 310427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like watching other people play it. < 1554943062 900098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But admittedly that's after I played it and already know how the rules work. < 1554944045 603012 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1554944227 137349 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1554944229 743313 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1554944283 313186 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1554946075 452891 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00dcd0dd41bccc0c7a.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1554947737 225650 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554949103 240523 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554949366 216155 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1554950655 542435 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkjozfrsqyidunrs QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1554952193 2435 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1554953654 6052 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-pywmbmkfyxzkzocv QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1554953933 549364 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-iamxaxjbqhhvjqtz JOIN :#esoteric < 1554954696 484642 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-glfmijvyjqmguano JOIN :#esoteric < 1554955590 486605 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554955839 405828 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1554959086 679795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brexit < 1554959087 688684 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brexit is a command to forcefully exit, releasing 1GB of free space. < 1554959182 998842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn_append brexit//If not enough force is available, the command will repeatedly delay itself. < 1554959184 953681 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'brexit': brexit is a command to forcefully exit, releasing 1GB of free space. If not enough force is available, the command will repeatedly delay itself. < 1554959252 685811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1554959253 687831 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1554959290 347103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn_append brexit//This command has a known bug where it will repeadly delay itself if not enough force is available. < 1554959293 471084 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'brexit': brexit is a command to forcefully exit, releasing 1GB of free space. This command has a known bug where it will repeadly delay itself if not enough force is available. < 1554959294 368866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1554959315 797621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd brexit//s,pead,peated, < 1554959317 407443 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brexit//brexit is a command to forcefully exit, releasing 1GB of free space. This command has a known bug where it will repeatedly delay itself if not enough force is available. < 1554959366 127632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd brexit//s,has a known,was recently discovered to have a, < 1554959367 904944 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brexit//brexit is a command to forcefully exit, releasing 1GB of free space. This command was recently discovered to have a bug where it will repeatedly delay itself if not enough force is available. < 1554959413 433467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :documentation is hard < 1554959849 236736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the flip side, looks like uk may get an extra scary halloween this year < 1554962077 834497 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554962354 771458 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1554962450 122398 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-glfmijvyjqmguano QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1554963730 973876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1554964107 891324 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1554965888 964345 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554967606 296358 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:wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1554984484 138961 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked for an olist, and didn't get that, but at least we have an < 1554984503 423323 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ehlist http://eheroes.smackjeeves.com/comics/2774640/shes-really-somethin/ < 1554984504 264509 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehlist http://eheroes.smackjeeves.com/comics/2774640/shes-really-somethin/: b_jonas < 1554984689 208162 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rkyequnvgrsqalqg QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1554984722 640763 :fmease!fmeasematr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jtkmwknuqxqylprw QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1554985246 381010 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1554985272 237877 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554985547 475539 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1554987263 956201 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1554987470 790434 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1554987516 25659 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1554988252 79142 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@wsip-68-15-198-210.ok.ok.cox.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1554989144 387630 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1554990902 153001 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.5.130.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1554991288 533724 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554991551 521414 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1554992053 328350 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554992187 293812 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dzptvoecruayqiep JOIN :#esoteric < 1554992609 343895 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900::13ed JOIN :#esoteric < 1554994530 632811 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554994818 559771 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1554994965 539697 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554995304 452832 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1555000004 152628 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Areallycoolusername14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60982&oldid=60567 5* 03Areallycoolusername 5* (+15) 10/* Full List of languages I Made */ < 1555000400 557658 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00158dca1e9b0947a8.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1555000497 334238 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:xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-txfmxwkobsjhzifd JOIN :#esoteric < 1555003281 597404 :nfd!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1555003367 173902 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1555003491 150840 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1555003506 667862 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00158dca1e9b0947a8.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1555004041 223263 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1555004048 684341 :nfd!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1555004960 949699 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1555005590 80403 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00453bbfe471c8e7c6.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1555006123 706052 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00453bbfe471c8e7c6.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1555006140 523928 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00453bbfe471c8e7c6.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1555007083 437366 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1555008004 800871 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an excellent point... "environmental protection" is misleading terminology for what should really be called "self-preservation". < 1555008093 303846 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00453bbfe471c8e7c6.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bad nash equilibrium < 1555008556 322278 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes < 1555008579 828450 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :around here, the Sierra Club blocks transit oriented development < 1555008594 341685 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they fought to save a "historic parking garage" < 1555008595 123813 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1555008644 528726 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they want to have fewer people living here (only the wealthy) but what that actually means is longer commutes, primarily by CO₂ producing cars < 1555008670 844937 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "california environmental quality act" is largely used to preserve parking and roads < 1555008674 198577 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree in the general case though < 1555009213 76373 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc115608-york6-2-0-cust168.7-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1555009234 13279 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1555009243 87614 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1555009525 998583 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1555010766 268641 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-txfmxwkobsjhzifd QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1555011209 362594 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP bereshit < 1555011225 341999 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? bear shit? < 1555011241 913710 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvuunpjzubdepftz PRIVMSG #esoteric :press F < 1555011338 347507 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the israeli moon lander. crashed into the surface at over 100 m/s < 1555011359 706720 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. what was the planned speed? < 1555011370 214385 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvuunpjzubdepftz PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1555011379 246942 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1555011380 593243 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lander" < 1555011382 573072 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvuunpjzubdepftz PRIVMSG #esoteric :was supposed to be a soft touchdown < 1555011393 776232 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, tricky naming system < 1555011424 600020 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"probe" if it is to crash, "lander" if it is to touch down < 1555011512 646409 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :impactor < 1555011780 777437 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :F < 1555011792 50790 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what went wrong? < 1555012315 376102 :lldd_!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1555012559 287817 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.5.130.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is it really crashed? It seemed so joyful one moment on that stream when I looked at it < 1555012632 420412 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.5.130.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hoped for pictures of the Moon in 4k or something… < 1555012794 751770 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1555013643 122478 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: engine cut out, it lost too much altitude before they could reset < 1555014682 854713 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? F < 1555014683 851275 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :F? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1555015059 857853 :lldd_!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1555015733 541496 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1555015993 535765 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1555016070 695837 :nfd!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1555016528 518681 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a certain narrative that I'd like to suggest we add to esolangs mythology. < 1555016572 148800 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one goes back to the prehistory in the seventies, when we had esolangs like Intercal. < 1555016684 873832 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there was this hacker Dennis Ritchie who made an esoteric language called C. And all the other esolangers laughed at him, saying that it wasn't an interesting esolang at all, because it didn't have any interesting restrictions, it was just a thin layer of syntax obfuscation for ordinary programming languages. < 1555016742 517774 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They pointed him at what they considered good examples of esolangs, like Intercal which doesn't allow ordinary arithmetic, or befunge which didn't allow ordinary control flow. < 1555016822 726755 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus C fooled non-esolangers the same way, it got picked up by hackers like Ken Thompson, and the esolangers told him that the rule was that if the language is used in production then it's not an actual esolang. < 1555016869 536536 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And with that excuse, they didn't allow him to create a page for C on the esolang wiki, and refused his membership application to the esolanger club, and didn't allow him into esolanger parties. < 1555016888 432284 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Dennis didn't despair, because he knew that his time would come soon and that he would have the last laugh. < 1555016923 402233 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And indeed, more and more people were fooled by the apparent transparency of C. Hackers were using it to write real programs, because C allowed you to write code in what seems like clever ways. < 1555016967 639415 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the hackers wrote all the clever optimizations to save a few clock cycles or bytes of memory, while C allowed their program to be easier to port among different computers. < 1555017002 805724 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the hackers didn't like writing documentation, so when other hackers started using the same clever subroutines, they didn't notice that those optimizations came with boundary conditions that made the code fail in certain circumstances. < 1555017041 911800 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they used the clever subroutines, and found them to be working when they tried the code, but when the time came to run the code with untrusted input as an internet service, the security bugs came up. < 1555017100 66715 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by the time the hackers noticed that C encouraged those kids of clever tricks, it was too late, they were all ensnared by Dennis Ritchie's trap. They looked around and saw that all the network infrastructure and operating systems and basic tools have now been implemented in C, < 1555017115 607507 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and riddled with obscure security bugs that are hard to debug. < 1555017156 953106 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's not all. Eventually computers became cheap enough and got industry applications, so it was no longer only hackers who wrote code for them. Code monkeys started to write code by imitating what they saw in the hacker's programs. < 1555017211 802332 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since all the existing programs were written in C, that's what the code monkeys wrote too. And the code monkeys weren't writing clever optimizations, they wrote code by successive approximation with a hammer and always kept the first working version rather than trying to come up with clever tricks. < 1555017237 241864 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that didn't save their code either, for C was so cleverly designed, that even such straightforward programs will have bugs. < 1555017303 446223 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code monkeys liked how C came with useful library functions, such as strcat to concatenate strings, but their tiny little monkey brain couldn't understand that strings need to be stored somewhere in memory in a large enough array and that they mustn't use memory after its lifetime. < 1555017326 768409 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So their code was full of buffer overflows and use after free and uninitialized pointers. < 1555017380 218415 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all the esolangers ended up in consultant jobs where they had to try to untangle the buggy programs that the code monkeys wrote, and teach them good programming practice, each of which was hopeless because the companies insisted on using C because it was the industry standard, < 1555017398 913280 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the while the esolangers couldn't even trust their own tools, because they too were written in C and had bugs. < 1555017441 146399 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when the day of judgement comes, Dennis Ritchie will arise from his grave and hold trial over all the esolangers who doubted his language and didn't allow him in esolanger circles, < 1555017557 546535 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they will be forced to recant their views in ironic ways. The esolangers who made esoteric languages with bounded tape size and bignum cells will now have to spend double exponential time in purgatory to cleanse their soul in a horribly slow [-] loop where they have to recant not only their own insulting statements towards Ritchie, < 1555017621 137526 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also all other possible insulting statements not longer than that. The people who invented two-dimensional esolangs will lose their sanity and will run around without end in a tight loop of four cells. < 1555017677 329968 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And only the esolangers pure in heart will be spared, the likes of Arthur Whitney who helped Ritchie's scheme of getting esoteric languages into production. < 1555017704 167026 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you suppose we could adopt this as an offical creation myth of esolangs? < 1555017909 234710 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxurgzvcsdvlhxid JOIN :#esoteric < 1555018235 663311 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1555019016 639409 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dmr < 1555019017 769756 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1555019020 542781 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C < 1555019021 574080 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1555019027 796375 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? F < 1555019028 804611 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :F? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1555019068 917523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`acronym dmr < 1555019069 791655 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :devalued Mozambicans Rama < 1555019572 928846 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Tanebventions < 1555019574 43621 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, Italian, the grace period, the limerick, ruin, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths or tanebventions: foods. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1555019578 585328 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: food < 1555019579 628326 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Culinary tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, weetoflakes, mushrooms, nutella, and cognac. < 1555019582 156864 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1555019583 260306 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, linear logic, the reals, Lambek's lemma, Curry's paradox, Stone spaces, algebraic geometry, locales, and histograms. < 1555019722 150371 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00453bbfe471c8e7c6.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1555020311 602188 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900::13ed PART :#esoteric < 1555020363 675638 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1555021033 446465 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :T-18m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojvu2u28CIY < 1555021254 951195 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're live now < 1555021565 676602 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stream is crapping out :( :( :( < 1555021612 6691 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXMGu2d8c8g < 1555021682 536406 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that says something about the Falcon heavy rocket < 1555021751 579727 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes? < 1555021792 534816 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the lander already crashed, how is it that they're launching the rockets only now? is Taneb's time machine involved? < 1555021805 79377 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two space things are happening today < 1555021807 948617 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused by all this space news < 1555021808 872183 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are not related < 1555021825 838377 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah I think time machines may be involved < 1555021839 85764 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. one is the telescope that photographs a black hole, the other is the lander < 1555021843 37344 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's two < 1555021853 734701 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :riiiight < 1555021854 901874 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right! the black hole is the time machine < 1555022124 526768 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chronocycle < 1555022125 587748 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :chronocycle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1555022151 808148 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 4-2 < 1555022152 823384 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :4-2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1555022790 595946 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they landed all 3 first stages :D < 1555022844 227023 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1555023098 115274 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there are once again the same number of M:tG planeswalker cards for Jace and Chandra. Chandra was in the lead for a short while, which seemed really odd to me, but they rectified that in the latest expansion. < 1555023376 250444 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're even tied with Liliana and Ajani now. that's weird. < 1555023649 3869 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-164.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1555024423 975750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1555024902 111763 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1555024902 378619 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1555024902 508034 :trn!~trn@prone.ws QUIT :*.net *.split < 1555024902 548780 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1555024945 58867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : RIP bereshit <-- i feel like making a bad joke about it having its own idea about where the border between space and moon was < 1555025183 679292 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1555025192 487435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i should connect it to brexit, i guess. < 1555025218 389190 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... cutting the engine in free fall? < 1555025249 680071 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Hrm. This program was clearly buggy. Why, then, did it produce correct results? Sigh. ) < 1555025276 2224 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1555025276 43589 :ineiros!ineiros@kapsi.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1555025276 43629 :trn!~trn@prone.ws JOIN :#esoteric < 1555025276 43650 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1555025333 249259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: two off-by-one bugs in opposite directions hth < 1555025375 82007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An off-by-zero bug. < 1555025395 150794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grWp off.by < 1555025396 662397 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :off by two:An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction. \ off by two error:An off by two error is what happens when you expect an off by one error but compensate in the wrong direction. \ seventh day adventism:Seventh Day Adventism is an attempt to bugfix an off-by-one error in Anabaptism < 1555025412 20679 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, that's too simple. I'm computing https://oeis.org/A174094 and the maybe-not-but-why bug is in decomposing the enumeration into independent subproblems. < 1555025475 569692 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1555025956 158485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Do you suppose we could adopt this as an offical creation myth of esolangs? <-- no hth < 1555026002 467073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't read all of it, but enough to dislike it. < 1555026981 168401 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.5.130.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds