00:00:06 everybody died. RIP 00:00:36 * oerjan doesn't feel more dead than previously 00:01:17 although i cannot prove i've not long been a hallucinating ghost 00:01:24 same af 00:06:20 hmm, I wonder where I found this: "Hey, there! Are you hibernating or are you dead?" / "I'm not hibernating, I guess I must be dead. Funny,I don't remember being dead when I woke up this morning." / "Maybe it happened while you weren't looking." / "What if it happened a long time ago? What if I died, and all this time I've been living a lie?" 00:28:43 not anywhere google can see it, apparently. 00:35:02 `` doag | grep hibern 00:35:06 10880:2017-05-10 slashlearn b_jonas can\'t spell//b_jonas can\'t spell these words: weird, hygiene, etymology, myopia, hibernate, carbohydrate, appearance, maintenance, appropriate, privilege, obsolete, heard, homogeneous, jealous; and confuses these sets of words: drought, draught/draft; couch, coach; depreciate, deprecate; dilate, dilute; contiguous, continuous; d \ 10878:2017-05-10 learn b_jonas can\'t spell/b_jonas can\'t s 00:35:48 `1 doag | grep -v 'jonas can' | grep hibern 00:35:51 1/1:5979:2015-09-13 le/rn sth/"sth" is short for "something that hibernates". 00:36:03 ok, so not in HackEso either. 00:36:23 oerjan: nah the quote is too old for that. I'd suspect the old esolang list, except the archives say no. 00:36:57 hm, what about old usenet? 00:37:30 Quite possible... but didn't google use to index that? 00:41:14 [[Talk:Bitter]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60914&oldid=54860 * DMC * (+2) 00:42:38 groups.google.com seems to have old usenet posts 00:42:54 * oerjan searched for "har du kramat din varg" 00:46:29 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 00:49:41 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:50:33 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 00:53:00 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 00:53:01 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 01:36:51 -!- MDude has joined. 02:38:14 -!- FreeFull has quit. 03:44:45 `? rot13 03:44:46 rot13? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 03:44:52 `wisdom rot 03:44:53 ​arothmorphise//arothmorphise ... antormo... antrohm... ant... oh bugger. This should go in the `misspellings of antrhrop... atnhro...' entry. 03:45:23 `wisdom 13 03:45:23 ​1337//1337 15 50 905 03:45:26 `wisdom 13 03:45:27 ​1337//1337 15 50 905 03:56:40 -!- orbitaldecay__ has joined. 04:00:06 -!- orbitaldecay_ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 04:53:28 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 08:46:41 -!- arseniiv has joined. 08:50:47 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 09:19:19 -!- orbitaldecay_ has joined. 09:22:42 -!- orbitaldecay__ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 11:46:23 -!- Essadon has joined. 11:46:38 -!- Essadon has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 11:47:04 -!- Essadon has joined. 11:52:47 -!- b_jonas has joined. 12:50:38 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 12:53:23 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 12:53:28 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 13:06:41 -!- FreeFull has joined. 14:04:27 my hon. and learned friend fungot, what is the best starting pokemon? 14:04:27 b_jonas: is the hon. and learned friend the member for sheffield, fnord more people are in work, and the world, our country might be resolved, the better the debate about prisons, that is ridiculous, and the very many, fewer people are in relative economic terms, we have been very much that finances the houthi. labour is clear that 14:04:56 hmm wait, apparently they're called "starter" instead of "starting 14:05:00 my hon. and learned friend fungot, what is the best starter pokemon? 14:05:00 b_jonas: a clear and early commitment to a backstop, and the home secretary, to go with the success, or seeking to transfer the eu ones. on trade, and the question of the hon. member, yet that is the only data that includes 14:06:36 `? pokemon 14:06:37 A pokemon is a monster that you keep in your pocket. Taneb invented them. 14:12:20 `? Janko Gorenc 14:12:21 Janko Gorenc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 14:14:49 `? lhurgoyf 14:14:50 lhurgoyf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 14:18:59 ^style 14:18:59 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl* youtube 14:19:38 ^style ukparl 14:19:38 Selected style: ukparl (UK Parliament debates from brexit referendum to late 2018) 14:19:57 ah okay, so it's been updated with more recent debates(?) 14:20:36 or hmm, maybe the ukparl style isn't all that old, I could've sworn it was older but maybe I was thinking of europarl 14:21:27 fungot: so how do you feel about the deadline next week? 14:21:27 FireFly: not a question time goes on, the more good young journalists, to non-governmental organisations, 14:21:34 fungot: high treason! 14:21:35 int-e: with the bill we have before us a bill to increase the number of fnord, herbal medicines directive to be modernised, more productive, and the secretary of the state, the state, leaving the secretary of state i have faced the house, 14:21:46 increase the number of fnord! 14:31:27 my hon. and learned friend is practicing his skill to answer something other than the question. very good. my hon. and learned friend will need that, like any other politician that interacts with reporters. 14:32:06 `` words --pokemon 20 # maybe one of these 14:32:08 simisage hoos smear wig swinub rock lil forret bouff sudow magby dragong gas wartrio slow rat aland slowkin golduck pyuku 14:33:54 -!- loic has joined. 14:34:09 those are a bit short. what was the switch for words to influence the length of the words? 14:34:22 ``` words --pokemon -l 20 10 14:34:23 valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs --opcode --pokemon \ default: --eng-1M 14:35:02 ``` words --pokemon -0 14 10 14:35:04 Unknown option: 0 14:35:07 ``` words --pokemon -o 14 10 14:35:08 yamaurangroudowoobaltal zebstricketotodilyphlos crawlery spheatmonleef fariados tauroruntacoonguss doduosionnelby shupperior ribomalamperioluremolga beakie 14:35:12 ``` words --pokemon -o 10 10 14:35:13 gothornadusken megantleon nihileplup shuckletterbug explous scashiftry tankelduckletchirl inklantinionee houndoof beautiflygonix 14:35:24 now those look better 14:35:37 Megantleon, Explou, Houndoof 14:35:41 ok, wee need something in between 14:35:46 ``` words --pokemon -o 6 10 14:35:47 trossom wishados alonferno ivysaurotodile rior trumakuhitarapin silvanha kraixen giratty rapionnelby 14:36:08 giratty! 14:41:37 -!- loic has left. 15:12:58 A pokemon is a monster that you keep in your pocket. Taneb invented them. <--- I've been getting back into Pokemon recently, as it happens 15:13:22 Taneb: video game or card game? 15:13:47 b_jonas: video game, I've been playing Silver which is on the 3DS Virtual Console store 15:13:59 Never played much of the card game 15:16:32 I see 15:16:43 `random-pokemon 15:16:44 ​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: random-pokemon: not found 15:17:14 `pokedex 15:17:15 ​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pokedex: not found 15:18:29 `pokemon 15:18:30 ​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pokemon: not found 15:18:49 ``` echo bin/*pok* 15:18:50 bin/*pok* 15:21:17 FWIW, the default length distribution should be the right one, it was trained from the real list. 15:21:39 ivysaurotodile was the Pokemon I started with! 15:21:42 `words --pokemon --esolangs 10 15:21:43 pie 2d-rever dewott brawlet sceptilectpar entropolis muncie dian l00p comeheadact 15:27:19 fizzie: sure 15:32:33 -!- xkapastel has joined. 15:59:02 `words --pokemon --finnish 10 15:59:03 pidennekiristeesteel kyläluksentäisi sigitoksesi petune naan logise celsken vertar tepitä slow 16:02:47 hmm, so is "petune" supposed to be finnish or a pokemon? 16:07:44 It's supposed to be a Finnish Pokémon. 16:07:54 I don't think that worked so well though. 16:08:17 When you use more than one dataset, it interpolates between the models with equal weights. 17:18:28 might be 18:27:38 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 18:36:57 `words --polish 18:36:57 rozpadniczne 18:37:04 `words --polish 10 18:37:05 niew nani nielodostu nieciśleliście nającymi wuliński postopopiął radzanku prorozhardalizowa uwieliby 18:37:33 mm 18:38:21 `words --bulgarian 10 18:38:22 ​благащваща застребеше пикрелиен полеба противявай латапя петлоушна свиднахането пилия опняванавиха 18:38:59 not enough Ъs, I’d say 18:52:51 `words --dutch 14 18:52:51 Unknown option: dutch 18:59:37 `words --norwegian 41 18:59:38 tær ekkens trapphol tvinnres snaktkjæres undendehovervirkes halvine eiereie seggssvogn forbunderes lønnemaksjona vannhyllett slåske gauksliserike nevangsmingene kastidsmobjell skjøpskrysstavfisk diagningselse busikottekt kryssistrømming heroperienteretning forbitorskogbrokkbegrav urkorsvars vann camporvalutning 19:00:31 "vann" is real, isn't it? 19:11:45 I believe so, should be 'water' 19:12:02 'forbunderes' also looks like plausibly real norwegian 19:12:29 `words --swedish 41 19:12:30 utständare anbersäkrat förste boxarna styckstade lovs presplandlande konciliserar närvsystades skildarwis årtens nyansöv ämbedåra fåta strateriser artogran fortroder språker guldkrämera definatsen stavinnlyst signakt sammanna direrna kapitetening 19:13:41 förste is real 19:14:37 also 'boxarna' 19:14:50 a couple others are very close to real I think 19:15:40 `words --hungarian 39 19:15:41 Unknown option: hungarian 19:15:51 `words --welsh 39 19:15:52 Unknown option: welsh 19:16:09 `words --help 19:16:10 Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger datasets more influential \ -o, --target-offset change the target length offset used in the \ 19:16:10 `words --finnish 20 19:16:11 liittämäävällä pohtaan muhisessaan osajakseen suunneistanne luomimmilta kastasi kuoputomistä intumiksimpänä kanne paen ulkaviltä kivat lujoutamallennus mahtaan päätäisesi ihmillemme hylkeviimmalla popolustetämille puhallampasi 19:16:15 `words -l 19:16:15 valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs --opcode --pokemon \ default: --eng-1M 19:16:45 * FireFly . o O ( --welsh would just be an alias for --mlp | rot13 anyway ) 19:16:57 kanne is real 19:17:03 So is "kivat". 19:17:14 all of those look like plausible finnish to me :P 19:17:24 it's easier for him to make real short words than long ones of course 19:17:37 `words --gaelic 39 19:17:38 còrr foid smeudag aorach fear mhaobh thàirde bhoc taisteach firean cùmhlair bùraidh foran fiùr choin phoilt mhadh geach clan fianair freag tàn sùbhlaid adh gaid 19:17:42 `words --manx 40 19:17:43 fograney greeit troo scuttaghtyr neuheayll meadagh broaie whee keragh slagh scalmynyn farrym nish hee oblagh vrat-chloin ferrey cragh henney aah kiadsyn ben-cag cornane toyrtooayl smuggys 19:17:48 And "mahtaan" could be colloquial first person present of v. mahtailla. 19:17:59 (Though really it's "mahtailen".) 19:19:14 "fear" is real 19:20:35 And you could probably use "kastasi" when talking about some CCG or something where you cast spells, as a Finglish term. 19:20:36 so is "gain" 19:20:44 um 19:20:49 I mean "gaid" 19:21:35 One big problem with the Finnish model is that 3 letters of context is just not enough to maintain vowel harmony. 19:21:40 hello all 19:21:44 i'm feeling very esoteric today 19:22:46 hihi kmc 19:23:18 <3 19:23:21 hi kmc 19:23:29 * kmc hugs everyone who would like a hug 19:23:36 feeling very huggable too 19:23:53 life's really good today and I want to share some of the love with all of you 19:24:47 kmc: did you get a job? 19:24:50 no 19:25:01 but I took LSD 19:25:10 ah, I thought that was what this was all about 19:25:15 lol 19:25:20 lmao 19:25:25 `sled bin/words//39s|@opt|sort &| 19:25:26 bin/words//#!/usr/bin/perl \ use strict; use warnings; \ use v5.10; \ use open qw( :encoding(UTF-8) :std); \ use File::Basename 'dirname'; \ use Storable 'retrieve'; \ use List::Util qw(sum min); \ use Getopt::Long qw(:config gnu_getopt); \ BEGIN { \ eval { \ require Math::Random::MT::Perl; Math::Random::MT::Perl->import('rand'); \ }; \ #warn "Optional module Math::Random::MT::Perl not found.\n" if $@; \ } \ \ #constants \ my @options = q 19:25:53 what's all this? 19:25:59 I don't know all the HackEso-magic 19:26:01 seems v. esoteric 19:26:06 we're using words to generate random words 19:26:17 did I mention the first time I ever took psychedelics, I sat on a computer and it opened ghci for me 19:26:31 and this was definitely a sign 19:26:48 inexorably linking two things that would come to be very meaningful for me 19:27:01 kmc: `sled foo//bar is just "sed -i -e bar foo", it's just a convenience thing to avoid the issue where you do "sed -ie" and it makes a backup copy of the file "foo" named "fooe". 19:27:14 kmc: ...plus it prints the new contents, which is handy for files that fit in one line of IRC. 19:27:14 what two things? ghc and computers? 19:27:43 wait what does sed -e do 19:27:51 sort? hmm 19:27:58 `words --german 39 19:27:59 bürgestimmaßgewinzell kurten gängesche abgressunftie zug feltlos soptiviuz zustersirme smen verte behe selbachtensklavi bung sche ernsens wattunk polycellegspol vors uebergrungshoffen sonndeae wortausge gefähris ung herungsoproten seilbio 19:28:21 those don't look particularly real. 19:28:41 well, maybe "kurten" does 19:28:50 oh, and "zug" too 19:28:53 that's at least two 19:29:02 It just sorted the output of -l; it could make some sense to keep them grouped manually somehow, but currently even the "real" languages were all jumbled up. 19:29:05 `words -l 19:29:06 valid datasets: --brazilian --bulgarian --canadian-english-insane --catalan --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --esolangs --finnish --french --gaelic --german --german-medical --hebrew --irish --italian --manx --norwegian --ogerman --opcode --pokemon --polish --portuguese --russian --spanish --swedish \ default: --eng-1M 19:29:35 but "uebergrungshoffen"? at least write it as "übergrungschoffen" if you want to make it look real 19:30:11 canadian-english-insane ? 19:30:32 kmc: The naming comes from the... aspell? ispell? one of those... dictionary names. 19:30:45 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:30:50 That's what (I think) Phantom_*Hoover used to set it up. 19:31:47 So for some languages there are -small, -large, -huge and -insane variants of the dictionaries. 19:31:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:33:19 b_jonas: I heard ẞ got accepted as a legal option for the uppercase ß, alongside SS. 19:35:28 Last I read about that in german, it depends on the nature of the text you're uppercasing... which is great, it now means we have collation rules that depend on semantics 19:35:46 Wikipedia wasn't that nuanced: "In 2016, the Council for German Orthography proposed the introduction of optional use of ẞ in its ruleset (i.e. variants STRASSE vs. STRAẞE would be accepted as equally valid).[9] The rule was officially adopted in 2017.[10]" 19:36:27 ah 19:36:38 I might misremember 19:39:02 meh, it's not like they can mess up anything worse than turkish i does 19:41:44 hehe 19:42:17 it's not like other languages haven't tried to make orthography complicated, but not many things in the west get close to that 19:43:50 does the i with tone marks keep the dot in vietnamese? is bulgarian and russian using the same script? do punctuation characters appear differently in chinese vs japanese vertical text without having separate unicode code points despite that kanji that appears differently usually have separate code points now? 19:43:59 all small cake compared to the trouble that turkish i causes 19:44:24 heck, turkish i causes terrible trouble regardless of how we try to handle it 19:44:38 if we could go back and redesign computers and unicode from the start, it would still cause a problem 19:45:36 Unicode is a mess 19:45:58 ASCII is OK, although still there is some things I would have designed differently in ASCII 19:46:11 even if you had a time machine, it would be easier to assassinate Kemal Atatürk and hope for a saner orthography reform than to try to fix using it afterwards 19:49:20 For use of Chinese writing, maybe Cangjie encoding is OK 19:51:55 ``` echo wisdom/mo* 19:51:55 wisdom/mockingbird wisdom/modal logic wisdom/module wisdom/mojibake wisdom/mole wisdom/molum wisdom/monad wisdom/monads wisdom/monoid wisdom/monoidal category wisdom/monoids wisdom/monomorphism wisdom/monqy wisdom/month wisdom/montreal wisdom/moo wisdom/moon wisdom/mornington crescent wisdom/morphism wisdom/morphology wisdom/morse wisdom/mosquito wisdom/moth wisdom/mothball wisdom/mother wisdom/mothology wisdom/mousse 19:54:15 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 19:56:13 it's too bad that there's no way to hug people over the internet 19:56:25 that would've been neat 19:56:27 no, it's brilliant 19:57:00 (I do not mean the Cangjie input method, but rather the related Cangjie encoding, which can be produced directly by Cangjie input method though) 19:57:42 hello 19:59:37 hello 20:00:04 kmc: but it's not that people haven't tried, using things like http://paste.debian.net/1076594/ 20:02:19 o/ hey kmc thye did game of life in baba is you 20:02:25 https://twitter.com/fengchuiyulin/status/1110423064020480000 20:03:37 rain1: whoa 20:04:01 if you scroll down he runs a glider gun in it, very nice! 20:04:05 oh my 20:07:24 time to make an esolangs.org article about Baba is You then 20:08:02 is it called "Baba is You" or "Baba Is You" or "Baba is you"? 20:08:09 I think I'll be happy if I find out what I'm missing for the last achievement. 20:08:46 Steam calls it "Baba Is You" 20:08:51 yeah 20:08:57 b_jonas: Yes, if you can actually describe how the rules of how it is work, then I might want to see, too 20:09:07 nah, I'll just make a stub 20:09:11 I don't know how it works 20:10:15 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2nAmO0WoAEIJgT.png 20:10:20 zzo38: it isexplained here 20:12:43 It is listing the rules but isn't explaining how the rules is working. 20:15:39 oh right 20:15:53 [[Baba Is You]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60915 * B jonas * (+603) Created page with "'''Baba Is You''' is an puzzle video game that appeals specifically to esoteric programmers. It was released in 2019, but an early demo version with much fewer features was k..." 20:16:47 hmm, is that the correct way to use "appeals"? should it be "appeals for esoteric programmers" instead? 20:16:47 there are sentences made up of blocks which contain words that are classified into some groups. we could call them noun verb etc. 20:18:14 each sentence is interpreted into game rules and the rules will be applied on each tick of the game 20:18:46 oh, we have game entries? 20:18:48 the interpretation process is based on the sentence structure and nouns refers to game objects and each verb has a specific subroutine in the game code 20:19:22 Yes, but I would hope in esolang wiki you can write how all of the words are doing, and that stuff 20:19:25 the list of interpretations and game code would be large and a lot of complexity 20:19:45 What you mention is good but doesn't mention each word doing 20:20:06 example is PUSH, it means that any object that is YOU who moves onto the same square as a pushable object will result in the object attempting to move forward one 20:20:14 its learned by playing the game 20:20:37 (at least, the words that are used in that Game of Life should be listed perhaps) 20:21:09 x:noun is y:noun results in all x objects being turned into y objects in one tick 20:21:15 sorry y into x* 20:21:31 I think I can follow https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1110422077813809152/pu/img/n1y8rQcU4_GKpOnk.jpg... nice use of shut/open/has. 20:23:08 (I expected something completely different using way more different objects...) 20:23:49 Does "eat" feature in the game? I don't recall it atm... 20:26:11 [[Talk:Baba Is You]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60916 * Zzo38 * (+261) Created page with "Hopefully later more description can be added, such as how some of the words doing (at least the ones used in that Game of Life implementation, and then later possibly the oth..." 20:26:49 And I guess the use of the ghost is just for cosmetic reasons. 20:26:57 it could take some work to reverse engineer the game 20:27:02 int-e: "different objects"? does that even matter? aren't they more or less interchangable? 20:27:02 just by playing it lots 20:27:10 to do a reimplementation 20:27:46 isn't that like using different identifiers in a C program? 20:28:21 b_jonas: I thought it would be hard to measure a stack of equal objects, but they found a way. 20:29:31 b_jonas: so rather than doing that I was imagining to use one object for each of the 9 squares in the neighbourhood and then combine them in some unary counting fashion. It'd be far less elegant. 20:30:07 (And much bigger as well, I guess.) 20:31:16 that reminds me. shameless plug: https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/3434/shortest-game-of-life/112163#112163 obfuscated implementation of Game of Life 20:32:19 hmm, does codegolf se have any answers in Baba Is You yet? 20:33:57 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 20:35:00 and have they agreed on how to measure code size in it yet? 20:39:29 i'd say similarly to befunge 20:40:09 befunge is defined to read code from a plain text file. 20:44:13 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 20:48:48 babanis you havibg pictures is just a cosmetic choice 20:49:16 it would just as well work with ascii characters if you define meaning to them properly 20:50:29 both have cells with a defined valuenthat acts in a certain way 20:50:41 befungenis not a billying automaton, though 20:51:00 there are some, but i don't know if they are used for golfing 20:51:01 but the big difference is that Baba is You can have more than one object on a cell 20:51:17 and also it doesn't have the language define a canonical source code representation 20:51:24 fair poikt, i didn't think of floating 20:51:27 so count objects 20:52:03 object count is a good reference, but it lacks an expression of compactness imho 20:52:10 int-e: and then you get into the same trouble as with live cell count in Life, where you can implement anything with a fixed (although pretty large) code size 20:52:12 and perhaps add a log(w+h) 20:53:14 Though that particular GoL implementation relies on a background (the tiles are essential), but there's no reason why that is necessary. 20:53:45 int-e: no it doesn't I thin 20:53:56 at least it relies on a background of nothing live 20:54:02 with just a constant number of cells live 20:54:22 https://twitter.com/fengchuiyulin/status/1110423064020480000 needs the tiles in the background to work. 20:54:26 the thing that relies on a periodic background pattern is the magic to make messages travel faster than c/2 20:54:31 that's what I'm saying. 20:54:37 oh, you mean the baba one 20:54:41 not talking about GoL. 20:54:49 but can you fix that somehow? 20:54:54 "that particular GoL implementation" 20:55:34 I guess that might not be known yet, because Baba Is You programming is still young 20:55:37 I'm sure it can be fixed... I mean, you can populate the level with tiles using the 'more' mechanic, for example 20:56:03 isn't there a "Nothing" mechanic to populate the whole level with something? 20:56:09 no wait 20:56:11 it's "Empty" 20:56:18 because Baba Is You prefers short words as keywords 20:56:19 To my mind there's really no doubt that you can do that without the prepopulated background. 20:56:29 ok 20:56:36 like "DEFEAT" for "LOSE" ;-) 20:57:04 (not all the words are short) 20:58:19 There's nothing longer than 6 letters though... except that isn't exactly true either. Baba is fairly good at pushing the boundaries. 20:58:35 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 21:05:17 ME IS SHORT 21:06:13 "ME"? they're using "YOU". it's in the name of the gamne 21:06:26 they don't try to shorten below four letters I think, because four fit nicely in a square 21:06:58 b_jonas: there's ME as well. 21:07:15 hmm 21:07:26 it's a noun 21:07:34 for some reason ;) 21:19:28 oh right! because YOU is a verb 21:19:42 It's an adjective. 21:19:55 huh... oh 21:20:03 -!- orbitaldecay has joined. 21:20:03 so the verbs are the stuff like "IS"? 21:20:11 and "CAN HAS"... 21:23:13 -!- orbitaldecay_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 21:29:04 b_jonas: ME: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/baba-me.png 21:31:45 hmm 21:33:08 the "TEXT" is more disturbing than the "ME" though 21:33:19 mind you, "EMPTY" still is scarier than those 21:33:34 WORD. 21:35:02 yeah 21:42:05 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 21:46:32 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 22:02:59 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 22:07:32 -!- moei has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:08:16 -!- moei has joined. 22:11:34 `? ski boxing 22:11:35 ski boxing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:11:40 is ski boxing a tanebvention? 22:13:18 `? quantum mechanics 22:13:19 quantum mechanics? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:20:04 kmc: *hug hug* …though it has so little effect, yeah 22:24:20 int-e: spoilery spoilers :((( 22:24:45 `? QFT 22:24:46 QFT? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:24:55 `? quantum * 22:24:56 quantum *? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:25:00 `? quantum field 22:25:01 quantum field? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:25:06 `? quantum field theory 22:25:07 quantum field theory? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:25:15 `? quantum chromodynamics 22:25:16 quantum chromodynamics? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:25:17 hmm 22:25:22 `? tanebventions: math 22:25:23 Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, linear logic, the reals, Lambek's lemma, Curry's paradox, Stone spaces, algebraic geometry, locales, and histograms. 22:25:30 `? tanebventions: physics 22:25:31 tanebventions: physics? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:25:37 `? tanebventions 22:25:38 Tanebventions include necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, Italian, the grace period, the limerick, ruin, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths or tanebventions: foods. He never invents anything involving sex. 22:25:51 there, you see? the universe 22:25:53 `? the unvierse 22:25:54 the unvierse? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:25:55 `? the universe 22:25:56 The universe was invented by Taneb as an opposing force to oerjan. Escardó proved that it was indiscreet. 22:25:57 `? universe 22:25:58 A universe is a poem in one stanza. 22:28:57 oh, Escardó… is that Martin Escardó, and why do I know that name? 22:29:18 hehe 22:29:20 don’t remember why is he famous 22:30:06 `? propagator 22:30:09 propagator? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:30:14 `? Feynmann 22:30:15 Feynmann? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:30:48 `? my little pony 22:30:49 my little pony? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:30:54 thank gods 22:32:59 oh okay it’s HoTT, cubical types and something 22:33:09 My Little Pony was invented by Laurent Faust, not by Taneb 22:33:55 `? gcc 22:33:56 gcc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:33:57 `? ghc 22:33:58 ghc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:34:07 `? quick 22:34:09 quick? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:34:22 btw anyone could tell something about cubical types what could be more or less understood by someone knowing a handful about dependent types? 22:34:50 `? tume cube 22:34:51 tume cube? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:34:53 `? time cube 22:34:54 EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE IN ONLY 24 HOUR ROTATION. 4 CORNER DAYS, CUBES 4 QUAD EARTH. Bible A Lie & Word Is Lies. Navel Connects 4 Corner 4s. God Is Born Of A Mother - She Left Belly B. Signature. Your dirty lying teachers use only the midnight to midnight 1 day (ignoring 3 other days) Time to not foul (already wrong) bible time. Lie that corrupts earth you educated stupid fools. 22:34:59 ^ those cubical types? 22:35:11 a time ago I looked at the article introducing them, though once only, and hadn’t understood 22:35:14 nononono 22:35:20 I don’t please 22:35:36 just not time cube I swear I’ll behave 22:35:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:36:01 -!- Essadon has quit (Quit: Qutting). 22:37:05 wtf is that entry 22:37:25 I guess it's the other kind of esoteric... 22:37:25 I don’t please => there should be exclamation marks between each pair of words 22:37:58 arseniiv: well you didn't please 22:38:07 int-e: that time cue is oh I shouldn’t. It was expired for a good reason. Though you could google it at your own risk 22:38:32 I was wounded just by reading _about_ it 22:38:44 in en.wikipedia I think 22:39:17 `w 22:39:18 ​cooperate//"Cooperate" is a common misspelling of "cōöperāte". 22:39:28 `? moose 22:39:29 moose? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:39:29 `? meese 22:39:30 meese? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:39:31 . o O ( corporate ) 22:40:11 `? gene ray 22:40:13 Dr Gene Ray is the Greatest Philosopher, and is the Greatest Mathematician. Cubic Harmonics. Only Cubic Harmonics can save humanity. Cubic Harmonics will pacify all religions. 96-hour Cubic Day debunks 1-day unnatural god. 96-hour day willdisprove disunity god. Academians are teaching - pseudocience. Worshipping a Word God will destroy the USA. 22:40:20 . o O ( chocolate moose ) 22:40:38 int-e: yes, the moose mousse, as in that MLP episode titled MMMM 22:40:48 arseniiv: I guess it's not really more painful than some of the terrible puns we have here. 22:41:20 `rot13 shachaf 22:41:21 funpuns 22:41:39 (now *that* was a spoiler.) 22:41:52 There's a pretty time-cube-ish thing I don't quite remember the name of back in Finland, preached by a guy who goes around with his self-published books in a cart, seen him around the university campus a few times. 22:42:20 b_jonas: what's MLP? 22:42:35 Ether vortices, that was it. 22:42:41 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kauko_Armas_Nieminen 22:42:59 int-e: My Little Pony 22:43:38 int-e: and the episode is actually not quite titled that, it's https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/MMMystery_on_the_Friendship_Express 22:44:09 and the mousse moose looks like https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/File:Chocolate_mousse_moose_at_door_S2E24.png 22:44:12 ... why did I ask. 22:44:31 it's the cake that's titled MMMM 22:44:35 int-e: hmmm I still think you quite underestimate the scale of that TC thing 22:45:40 arseniiv: The Baba one? Not sure what you mean by scale. 22:45:54 ooooh 22:46:10 arseniiv: TC is hard-wired in my mind. 22:46:16 int-e: (now *that* was a spoiler.) => oh. Is that intentional all the way down? 22:46:19 "Turing Complete" 22:46:28 `? tc 22:46:29 `? tg 22:46:29 Tc is the abbreviation for Technetium, an element so sophisticated that it does not exist naturally. 22:46:30 TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. 22:47:22 `? cr 22:47:23 cr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:47:38 `? lf 22:47:39 lf? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:47:40 `? ok 22:47:41 (CR is Church-Rosser. Not Carriage Return.) 22:47:41 ok? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:47:42 `? na 22:47:43 na? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:47:45 int-e: TC is hard-wired in my mind. => I like ambiguous abbreviations too :P 22:47:46 `? n/a 22:47:47 n/a? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 22:47:54 it was intentional 22:48:05 arseniiv: you are an evil person. 22:48:10 arseniiv: welcome to the club., 22:48:42 maybe he traveled back in time to rearrange the Phoenician alphabet so that that rot13 thing works out 22:48:53 int-e: sknaht 22:49:16 arseniiv: shachaf was unhappy when I pointed out that "Schaf" is "sheep" in German :) 22:49:51 oh 22:49:52 And it's still the closest "real" word I know of. 22:50:32 `? int-e 22:50:33 int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv. Hen gillar inte färger, men han gillar dissonans. Er hat ein Hipster-Spiel gekauft. 22:50:37 it reminds me how I was posting something on ggroups and it did take 4 on my email 22:50:51 it was very sad 22:51:17 Nobody pointed out the Swedish word "inte" when I picked that nickname. 22:51:32 I guess it was more of a handle, at the time. 22:51:49 oh, as for nicks resembling real words, I hearby requesting that if you make a porthello from my nick, you try to use "jó napot" rather than "bonjour" 22:51:57 -!- xkapastel has joined. 22:53:54 `? porthello 22:53:55 Hellonfused one. Porthellos are the standard greeting format in #esoteric. Best enjoyed with some thé or caffè and a fternooner. 22:54:03 oh so it’s official 22:54:31 I mean, the name 22:54:42 Being recorded in wisdom is a very low bar of officialdom. 22:54:44 . o O ( Rosser, Returning in a Carriage from Church = Church-Rosser Carriage Return ) 22:55:09 (rofl) 22:55:11 yeah. good arsenightiv 22:55:27 gtg to bed 22:55:27 -!- b_jonas has quit (Quit: leaving). 22:58:14 …wait I haven’t had time to say b_ciaonas 23:00:03 -!- danieljabailey has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.6.6+deb1ubuntu0.1 - http://znc.in). 23:00:07 -!- moei has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 23:00:18 -!- danieljabailey has joined. 23:00:35 * kmc hugs arseniiv 23:01:57 `slwd hms pinafore//s|^/|| 23:01:58 hms pinafore//HMS Pinafore is just some infernal nonsense, according to general majority opinion. 23:02:28 I'm pretty sure it had an unintentional leading slash, from the fact that `le/rn uses / instead of the more common // as a delimiter. 23:18:05 Not anymore, right? 23:21:05 `? le/rn 23:21:06 le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. Usage: `le/[/]rn // 23:21:28 `? wisdom 23:21:29 wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and, uh, that other one? It started with, like, an ø? 23:22:05 `nohuglist 23:22:06 ​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nohuglist: not found 23:24:34 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:28:59 Right, guess it's been fixed. 23:30:21 -!- Sgeo has joined. 23:31:49 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:32:15 -!- Sgeo has joined. 23:33:20 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds).