< 1554077677 800104 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-190.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :salpynx: huh what < 1554077714 102927 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Qutting < 1554077804 396281 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-190.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1554079394 145688 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1554079538 986689 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1554079542 301760 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1554080745 907958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a similar kind of idea before, although with cards, that the user has to shuffle before inserting them into the computer, in order to implement randomness. < 1554081228 904028 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds > 1554082085 703261 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03EeEee 5* 10New user account > 1554082234 412483 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60825&oldid=60819 5* 03EeEee 5* (+47) 10/* Introductions */ > 1554082279 933512 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60826&oldid=60825 5* 03EeEee 5* (+80) 10/* Introductions */ < 1554082319 365072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks ExubErant < 1554082353 894240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know whether or not such a thing has ever been done with computer cards.) < 1554082808 932397 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gnlriaqnoedgpvdz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1554082902 828893 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07E14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60827 5* 03EeEee 5* (+3511) 10Created page with "'''E''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:EeEee]]. E is a blatant ripoff of [[Chicken]], however the only available token is the letter 'E'. ==Command..." > 1554083180 607203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07E14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60828&oldid=60827 5* 03EeEee 5* (+788) 10 < 1554084472 119649 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eodermdrome spec says "an interpreter can always choose the first, or the last, or a random command, or use any other method to determine which command runs, if more than one can run", so 'random' non determinism is not guaranteed < 1554084543 799766 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two existing interpreters both choose the first matching rule, so to get random choice, the source code can be shuffled to simulate an interpreter that picks a random matching rule < 1554084628 434683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :salpynx: Yes, unless the method is using first command in sorted order, in which case that won't work. < 1554084632 849310 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: this is sort of like what you describe with random cards, but using existing non-deterministic speced languages with deterministic interpreters < 1554084688 836894 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I think and hope that is not the case with the specific Eodermdrome interpreters, but yes, good point < 1554085205 854593 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to nominate Eodermdrome for featured language, but there aren't enough examples. I'm trying to create some more complex ones, but it is tricky. < 1554085338 802477 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can sort of be used like a 2d rewriting language like Thue with distinct graphs joined in a 'string'. Multi-dimensional rewriting would be more interesting but harder, and further limited by the restricted graph alphabet of 26 chars < 1554085351 332322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 26 node limit is a bit cramped, i think < 1554085376 828086 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A similar graph rewriting lang without that limitation would have more potential, but still be difficult to program in < 1554085444 806881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for non-random non-determinism, i considered that when writing the implementation of Malbolge Unshackled. < 1554085449 34755 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: very much so, most of my passably ok ideas re eodermdrome fell over with the 26 char limit :) < 1554085481 210833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it selects randomly, at program start, between a number of policies, some of which are random and some of which are not. < 1554085537 282399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the non-determinism is in when to increase the rotation width) < 1554085662 616042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i wanted to make it as unpredictably unhelpful as possible - you can neither predict it, nor use it as a reliable source of randomness) < 1554085679 161417 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have a set of graph symbols which I think can be used like Thue limited to 2 characters on each side of the replacement, possibly extended to 3 in some cases, but I need to pull it together to test properly. < 1554085736 262478 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been finding bugs in the python interpreter that I need to fix < 1554085788 791692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1554085808 47361 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "unpredictably unhelpful as possible - you can neither predict it, nor use it as a reliable source of randomness" that's just mean! ;) < 1554085822 384565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it _is_ a malbolge dialect :P < 1554086228 346522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was also a bit of an exercise in "how do you force programmers _not_ to depend on implementation-dependent behavior? by making the implementation choose between all options!" < 1554086283 350386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or a big enough subset of them) > 1554086359 236754 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Alsfactory 5* 10New user account > 1554086476 93417 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60829&oldid=60826 5* 03Alsfactory 5* (+172) 10/* Introductions */ < 1554086944 288288 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check out that aspect of Malbolge Unshackled. I imagine writing something that tests the current rule set and terminates when it's not appropriate, with an external wrapper that reruns the code until the 'right' rules are in effect < 1554089732 621823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1554091005 546019 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1554092144 48238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With the MIXPC boot loader, if there are no additional data cards after the end of the program, you could shuffle all of the cards other than the first and last card and the program will still work as far as I can tell; only the first and last card must remain first and last. With Knuth's boot loader the second card also is fixed, but I think it also allows cards to otherwise be rearranged.) < 1554099340 917394 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort algoritm works best if you have a way to create a value at the midpoint between two values in O(1) < 1554099479 902839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An algorithm for making what? < 1554101549 968082 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1554101562 139705 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554103932 570200 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vnbwnjviuivmqhan JOIN :#esoteric < 1554108227 122071 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfgz2ng38e2jxt.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1554110006 213800 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1554110163 810389 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how does that work when you overwrite a memory word from multiple cards? are the values combined according to some commutative function like the NNIX loader does? because I think some MMIX assemblers will emit cards that overwrite an existing cell, to resolve some forward refs. < 1554111710 434161 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vnbwnjviuivmqhan QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1554114128 698752 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes. I should've expected another april fool video from Matthias Wandel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX6FpLBDOFs < 1554118173 775664 :mnoop!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip NICK :mniip < 1554119037 246367 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 JOIN :#esoteric < 1554122652 249109 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1554122798 720094 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1554128724 110218 :Bob-!~Bob@76.202.115.164 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1554129058 539488 :bobby!~Bob@76.202.115.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1554130439 658572 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1554131311 275739 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1554131428 150209 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554131881 943249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1554133588 426094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Ah, maybe that is true (for MIX, not MMIX), although the MIXPC assembler does not emit multiple cards for the same address. Knuth's assembler might, in which case shuffling the cards will prevent it from working. < 1554133754 616335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In a change to the MIXPC assembler that I have not copied to this computer yet, there is a command to punch a zero in the first character position of all cards other than the first and last card. This isn't useful on modern computers, but if you are putting them in actual cards, it might help if the cards have inadvertently been mixed up.) < 1554133883 277787 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe it could be done a bit cheaper than I said, because we could require that, say, only one card writes a nonzero value into any one byte. < 1554133925 883691 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the assembler will probably satisfy that, and you can implement that easily in the loader if you start by zeroing out the memory (at least its majority, the part you're allowed to load into) < 1554133946 770121 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, you have to be careful to handle signs properly < 1554134005 515758 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this part is easier on a modern computer, where the OS will zero any memory you map anyway, and you get group operations on words for cheap < 1554134032 393744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With two bootloader cards that may be possible; Knuth's loader does not use the entire second card, so there is still some space available. My own bootloader (which uses a single card) has only one unused word. < 1554134073 913584 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually you want to use addition modulo the word size, so that you can write a forward reference offset with a constant offset, which MIXAL and MMIXAL don't allow, but you may want it in more powerful assemblers < 1554134143 493973 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmm. so in that case, either you have to require the user to not arbitrarily shuffle the cards, or make the assembler more careful in what it outputs, which would increase the number of the cards, < 1554134201 18604 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or bootstrap a second loader, which would help anyway because you could encode data on the rest of the cards more efficiently then < 1554134605 277088 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that the original encoding is too bad, mind you < 1554134607 885213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some time ago I wanted to try to figure out how to make it so that the program will still load and work even if all of the cards (including the first and last one) are shuffled, but have not managed to succeed at it. < 1554134676 790839 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know of the relevant IOCCC entry, right? < 1554134682 290534 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1554134688 957081 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know *about* the relevant IOCCC entry, right? < 1554134703 624118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not remember. < 1554134770 659787 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ioccc.org/years-spoiler.html#2001_westley < 1554134808 960757 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you can do it on MIX if all cards can be shuffled. I guess it's possible if you can rely on that the one first card is kept first, < 1554134831 722022 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even if not, you could require the first few cards to be kept first, in which case it's almost certainly possible, and that's not really a difficult requirement to keep < 1554134865 856287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for discussion of the occult, esoteric and paranormal | https://esolangs.org | logs: https://esolangs.org/logs/ http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://www.dropbox.com/s/fyhqyvy3i8oh25m/wisdom.pdf < 1554134873 197526 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another possiblity would be if you allowed any shuffle, but required the user to feed the pack through the reader twice < 1554134891 965606 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice~ < 1554134909 671814 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome wob_jonas < 1554134910 821105 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1554134923 956678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes it could require putting the cards twice. < 1554134971 529545 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should we edit that too? < 1554134980 485841 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, oerjan, isn't it too late for this? < 1554135038 217363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. but int-e said to edit the topic today hth < 1554135047 234203 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1554135064 479828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not planning to make it a larger effort < 1554135075 233169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1554135197 954934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The option to punch the zero in the first character position of each card other than the first and last helps to correct the order if they have been mixed up, since you could put something through the holes so that you can find the first and last card, and then it is not difficult to see which card is first and last (since they are very distinguishable). < 1554135204 243219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i was originally just thinking i'd finally remove the IOCCC mention) < 1554135259 924418 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if you just want to make the first and last cards distinguishable, use cards with different colored paper, and make both of them constant among programs. < 1554135274 316429 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1554135281 501127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know if this way of using holes in computer cards have been done before or not) < 1554135336 79899 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it has been done with some sort of cards, though I don't know if it's been done with hollerith cards in particular, or only cards specifically designed for this, with the holes on the edges < 1554135354 56735 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC TAOCP vol 3 describes an example of the latter kind, with cards < 1554135380 563736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: That is a possibility, although currently the last card isn't constant (although it is possible to make it so, by putting the real start address elsewhere and jump there) < 1554135400 545276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think I have read that in TAOCP vol 3, and/or maybe other books too < 1554135402 226164 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently it isn't, but if you can change the format then it can be < 1554135415 89541 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I think I've seen it in at least one other book too < 1554135531 549258 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean even without changing the first card at all, it can still work the last one constant, but the last card would still be different for binary and decimal computers. < 1554135672 786868 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the option to make a loader that loads the program from paper tape, even if the loader itself may be on a few punch cards < 1554135734 707519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(An example of a MIXPC assembled deck can be found in the Deadfish article. However, the program should still run even on implementations other than MIXPC.) < 1554135749 68215 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't allow nul characters within a line, then such a loader could be almost as small as the loader from card < 1554135773 691762 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or del characters or whatever they are that you use on 5-row tape < 1554135850 521619 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently 5-row tape only has the nul character, not the del character. I've no idea how you'd edit that before splicing. < 1554135856 236429 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :steady hands < 1554135859 858728 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1554137180 235108 :upline!~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble NICK :grumble < 1554138638 253123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1554139032 210059 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1554139280 71541 :MDude!~MDude@71.50.54.203 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1554142135 424226 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1554142712 229882 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: should the topic mention "supernatural" too? < 1554143507 956114 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orthonormal and paradoxal < 1554143551 440169 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the last is not in dictionaries yet < 1554143604 954148 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a strange asymmetry between orthodox and paradoxical > 1554143958 500646 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60830&oldid=60829 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+213) 10/* Introductions */ < 1554143988 747686 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a belated < 1554143991 363173 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1160 < 1554143992 53082 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1160: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1554144001 500933 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, this has been up for several hours, how have you not rang it in? > 1554144214 55158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60831 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+0) 10Created blank page > 1554144285 964096 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60832&oldid=60645 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+47) 10 > 1554144364 376684 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60833&oldid=60831 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+84) 10 > 1554144467 902853 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60834&oldid=60833 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+152) 10 > 1554144988 535070 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60835&oldid=60834 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+215) 10 < 1554145259 301278 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah is today the day when one can submit a page about a natural language to the wiki? > 1554145284 34045 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60836&oldid=60835 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+156) 10 < 1554145298 485104 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Oh man. < 1554145306 614918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea of an April 1st prank was to do a fake olist < 1554145309 821144 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad luck it is already april 2nd in here < 1554145313 781106 :MDude!~MDude@71.50.54.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1554145318 385827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what'shisname has preempted me. > 1554145355 484459 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60837&oldid=60836 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+29) 10 > 1554145555 944549 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60838&oldid=60837 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+214) 10 > 1554145622 250522 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60839&oldid=60838 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (-248) 10 < 1554145658 949560 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: someone already did that < 1554145669 843280 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they posted the forum topic on the forum as if there was a new olist > 1554145733 189766 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60840&oldid=60839 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+171) 10 > 1554145840 220766 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60841&oldid=60840 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+110) 10 > 1554145855 601043 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60842&oldid=60841 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+1) 10/* Instructions */ > 1554145899 655260 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60843&oldid=60842 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (-31) 10 < 1554145914 828527 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: and apparently some traditions hold that april fools joke must be in the morning of --04-01 only < 1554145941 623073 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: interesting < 1554146244 636373 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1554146616 90469 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1554146750 62895 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the transcript of today's xkcd should be an interesting effort... < 1554147343 166795 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfgz2ng38e2jxt.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1554147385 691437 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1554148841 268789 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric > 1554149022 295633 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60844&oldid=60843 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+28) 10 > 1554149109 697384 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60845&oldid=60844 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+72) 10 > 1554149212 848732 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60846&oldid=60845 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+183) 10 > 1554149228 357785 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60847&oldid=60846 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+13) 10 > 1554149389 194785 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60848&oldid=60847 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+151) 10 > 1554149601 395961 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60849&oldid=60848 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+309) 10 > 1554149659 256094 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60850&oldid=60849 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+523) 10 > 1554149806 103387 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60851&oldid=60850 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+1) 10/* Examples */ > 1554149877 340084 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60852&oldid=60851 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+485) 10/* Examples */ > 1554150824 647990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60853&oldid=60852 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+2078) 10 < 1554151012 207858 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, a Water level Sunken temple in BIY is a great one. I hardly cracked it > 1554151034 653740 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60854&oldid=60853 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+551) 10 > 1554151256 387552 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60855&oldid=60854 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+303) 10 < 1554151265 289941 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I give it 11/10 stars > 1554151299 650220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60856&oldid=60855 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+243) 10 < 1554151353 432353 :bobby!~Bob@76.202.115.164 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds > 1554151384 97619 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60857&oldid=60856 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (-1) 10 < 1554152460 435704 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIGBOVIK 2019 proceedings is now available at http://sigbovik.org/2019/proceedings.pdf < 1554152474 535573 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ^ < 1554152544 511620 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: thank you! Let’s take a look… < 1554152582 243708 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what a filesize < 1554152606 568216 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: it usually includes lots of fancy graphics > 1554152662 561513 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chem14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60858&oldid=60857 5* 03KerbalEngineer 5* (+184) 10 < 1554152674 943995 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusingly, it's not linked from http://sigbovik.org/2019/ < 1554153169 895423 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint 24*0.0254 < 1554153170 494608 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.6096 < 1554153330 993627 :Bob-!~Bob@76.202.115.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1554153575 319477 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1554153608 898867 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554153885 875150 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1554154505 328309 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the video that tom7 promised in his blog entry is now out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TFDG-y-EHs < 1554154859 251022 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554156894 740383 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1554157283 948837 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554157339 959597 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554157735 41261 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1554157918 772299 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1554158231 619021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1554158251 589692 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there’s a conlang article! :o < 1554158254 64594 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1554158337 342819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah conlangs < 1554158359 738010 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1554158370 639420 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's an article not written by tom7 that cites a past article by tom7 too < 1554158409 561123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: should the topic mention "supernatural" too? <-- i cannot do that, it's already Apr 2 here hth < 1554158465 386904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although in retrospect i did feel it should have been a bit longer < 1554158673 287292 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1554158674 322909 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is invalid. < 1554158700 28363 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( tomfoolery ) < 1554158965 791759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's for last month < 1554158970 335023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just late < 1554159024 61197 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1554159056 792332 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't have any idea I like. < 1554159086 590203 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have standards. They may be low, but they exist. :P) < 1554159267 605884 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I take it that I shouldn't just concatenate four random English words, as xkcd suggests and as I've done a few months ago, right? < 1554159377 536363 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.212.158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MersenneTwisterDoesn'tEscalate < 1554159428 235985 :asie!~asie@asie.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes, Poland was among participants in this variant of the tradition IIRC < 1554159437 527266 :asie!~asie@asie.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, at least a decade or so back, you were expected to reveal your ruses by noon < 1554159450 684105 :asie!~asie@asie.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays it's a bit more muddied due to international influence < 1554159486 829602 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1554159971 329958 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-154.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1554160277 198071 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1554160513 948468 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1554160618 646714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1554161389 791734 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Qutting