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:#esoteric < 1544106569 342177 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900:8319:87ab:f00:d5de JOIN :#esoteric < 1544107550 122918 :ais523_!93bcc357@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1544107595 155946 :ais523_!93bcc357@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autopsy feels like there should be some way to make it TC with three counters < 1544107622 295676 :ais523_!93bcc357@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can do it with just two if the distance jumped forwards after each instruction were changed to be much larger, but I suspect that would miss the point of the language) < 1544108284 75494 :ais523_!93bcc357@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.87 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1544109345 728693 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1544109406 363539 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people really don't know how to make informative documentation. they just spew this shit with some automatic doc generation tool. "InStr([start, ]string1, string2[, compare])" bad parameter naming. let's see the description of those parameters: < 1544109429 999870 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"string1: Required. String expression being searched. / string2: Required. String expression sought." < 1544109457 647832 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The function "Returns a Variant (Long) specifying the position of the first occurrence of one string within another." < 1544109552 637052 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does eventuall leak which argument is which a page later, but at that point it's easier to give up and just take a glance at http://www.antonis.de/qbebooks/gwbasman/ and hope that no BASIC implementation gets the arguments swapped. < 1544109623 936801 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GWBASIC manual: "To search for the first occurrence of string y$ in x$, and return the position at which the string is found. / INSTR([n,]x$,y$)" see, that's one way to be clear. "INSTR([startpos,]haystack$,needle$)" would be even better, but that may be a later invention. < 1544110114 733607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: https://gamma.zem.fi/~fis/qbc.html#QEw4MGEz < 1544110141 424847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is how they wrote it for QBasic. < 1544110163 175212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's a disprovement. Or whatever the opposite of improvement was, mind is blank & time for a meeting. -> < 1544110217 822167 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hehe < 1544112495 264759 :hexfive!~hexfive@50-46-223-124.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544115547 596790 :ilia!~user@143.248.180.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1544115726 891232 :ilia!~user@143.248.180.21 PART #esoteric :"ERC (IRC client for Emacs 26.1)" < 1544117381 66489 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1544118261 421098 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544119033 243625 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1544119074 260834 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544120024 397846 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1544120202 242550 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1544120216 956085 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544121320 968329 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1544121509 733961 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1544121590 93224 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode ’ < 1544121591 210913 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK] < 1544122344 741708 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1544122674 954983 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1544122744 721155 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1544122777 311822 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544122780 538664 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1544122795 769977 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544124157 19162 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1544124193 753525 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544124554 792155 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1544124966 421238 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1544126118 838818 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.229.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1544128804 803551 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1544129146 997940 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544131238 9514 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1544131251 483700 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544131795 238071 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544132077 249145 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1544132899 763034 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO PUT NUMBERS IN MY GOEGARPHY DATA! < 1544132912 763126 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAA < 1544132950 46242 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nver mind, it was me < 1544132953 738581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiren < 1544132970 452071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you fix your build system and/or quit your job yet twh < 1544133012 613401 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, I am currently working on replacing some of it though. replacing a bunch of programs in Go, with C++ < 1544133050 766698 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only problem is I am bad at understanding what Go code does < 1544133091 40672 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have three other things which are higher priority than fxing the build system, one of which is adding features to the build system < 1544133116 428681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about quitting your job, though < 1544133142 718234 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: They keep raising my salary < 1544133152 41612 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so, not yet < 1544133213 232608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you switched jobs it'd probably go up even more < 1544133249 972831 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the salingularity < 1544133264 399253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`owrjan < 1544133265 326712 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your omnidryad saddle principal ideal golfing toe-obsessed "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty evil grinch is a punctual expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1544133303 166208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swrjan s/render/remember/; s/connivance/convenience/ < 1544133305 325042 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan//Your omnidryad saddle principal ideal golfing toe-obsessed "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty evil grinch is a punctual expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never remember the word "amortized" so he put it here for convenience. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it. < 1544133327 946966 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how retro < 1544133386 257359 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah but then I would have to learn a new build system < 1544133431 500914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: just ask for a bunch more money to compensate hth < 1544133471 749645 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: do you really have to? doesn't the build system only come with the culture, and you could still just invoke the compiler with any other build system? < 1544133658 860409 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I suppose. I guess my company has alot more trouble because most of what the "build system" does is crunching data and autogenerating code, not actually finding dependencies or running G++ < 1544133696 430680 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the part of the build system I'm working on doesn't run any compilers < 1544133725 996833 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns CSV source data into CSV result data < 1544133729 749215 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: in that case, combine the two build systems. do they hate each others? < 1544133765 176938 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let one call into the other and back < 1544133770 166255 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to depth 10 or so < 1544133786 400173 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some of the steps running on a remote machine too < 1544133809 374793 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that already happens. the current build system does make -> shell script -> make -> perl -> make -> perl < 1544133846 978234 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: good. is the tangly part sorely lacking documentation or anyone else other than you who understands it, for job security? < 1544133873 201365 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: needs more python, rust, go, swift, and fortran < 1544133878 852887 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I wrote documentation but afaict noone has read any of it < 1544133883 308915 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: yeah < 1544133887 557949 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :documentation doesn't really matter < 1544133889 763285 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody reads it < 1544133899 863157 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be a good way to protect your back < 1544133920 568402 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the shell script uses tools written in C++, Go, Haskell, and Ruby < 1544133941 638583 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: oh I forgot about Ruby. < 1544133956 452095 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is living a cozy life.
< 1544133959 627837 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am working on exorcizing the languages I dont know from the system < 1544133973 725833 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or know but don't like < 1544133988 288627 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure the stuff breaks the moment you leave, but the simply solution shall be plainly documented in the documentation, and you shall have several ignored emails you send in which you point to that documentation and explain how important it is that its steps are followed, and you ask your supervisor to forward that information to the next person managing the build system < 1544134001 584333 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put the documentation right next to the build system too so they can't claim to have lost it < 1544134006 495252 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still won't be able to find anything < 1544134071 224171 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to find time to write such documentation too < 1544134090 27107 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have a system that nobody else can use < 1544134091 663797 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? time < 1544134092 611619 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :time? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1544134096 761207 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`datei < 1544134097 323132 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-12-06 22:08:17.098855625+00:00 < 1544134119 656174 :sleepnap!~thomas@2603:3015:260e:1900:8319:87ab:f00:d5de PART :#esoteric < 1544134130 335126 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1544134152 558645 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `learn time//There's never enough time to write a good wisdom entry so this is what you get instead. ) < 1544134243 859819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the part where you learn learn instead of le//rn part of what makes it not a good wisdom < 1544134293 855581 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1544134307 763621 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn < 1544134308 735922 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`learn creates a wisdom entry and tries to guess which word is the key. Syntax (case insensitive): `learn [a|an|the] [s][punctuation] [...] < 1544134316 494461 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn < 1544134317 403686 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. Usage: `le/[/]rn // < 1544134329 964355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That joke is no longer applicable. :-( < 1544134368 17544 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zdbjeufslzgqwpvf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1544134373 661585 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1544134425 267149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: so if the salary raises are what's keeping you there, is there an amount of money that would convince you to switch jobs + build systems < 1544134439 172158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you could get it if you were motivated hth < 1544134459 451332 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` date -u "+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %z %Z %B %-e %A %G-W%V-%u" < 1544134460 3301 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-12-06 22:14:19 +0000 UTC December 6 Thursday 2018-W49-4 < 1544134471 898544 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat bin/dateu < 1544134472 403285 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec date --rfc-3=n -u "$@" < 1544134489 977194 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dateu < 1544134490 439187 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-12-06 22:14:50.194302513+00:00 < 1544134502 708788 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I get GNU date to print fractions of seconds with an explicit format? < 1544134523 217796 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, %N < 1544134529 397676 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` date -u "+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%N %z %Z %B %-e %A %G-W%V-%u" < 1544134529 969223 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-12-06 22:15:29.719776794 +0000 UTC December 6 Thursday 2018-W49-4 < 1544134573 675389 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` f=bin/dateu; >$f echo $'#!/bin/sh\n''exec date -u "+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%N %z %Z %B %-e %A %G-W%V-%u"'; chmod -c a+x "$f" < 1544134575 148441 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1544134577 5585 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dateu < 1544134577 495615 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-12-06 22:16:17.262646602 +0000 UTC December 6 Thursday 2018-W49-4 < 1544134587 304292 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` f=bin/datei; >$f echo $'#!/bin/sh\n''exec date "+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%N %z %Z %B %-e %A %G-W%V-%u"'; chmod -c a+x "$f" < 1544134588 821999 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1544134590 303458 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`datei < 1544134590 783739 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2018-12-06 22:16:30.538588903 +0000 UTC December 6 Thursday 2018-W49-4 < 1544134598 122531 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me, a few weeks ago I was thingking what if you had a CPU that only used floats < 1544134610 713750 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mkx < 1544134611 615375 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkx? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1544134612 401212 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would one use foating point numbers as adressles < 1544134614 426725 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: yeah, those things used to exist back when integrated circuits were cheap < 1544134617 63107 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx < 1544134617 533831 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents < 1544134635 557863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: You could address bits! It'd be great. < 1544134646 701268 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: also, there are high level languages with only floats (well, sort of), such as on my SHARP EL-5120 programmable calculator < 1544134654 530482 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the floating point arithmetic is a bit strange too < 1544134679 443825 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a sign are twelve decimal digits of mantissa, and two digits with sign of exponent of 10, < 1544134693 745951 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 10 digits are displayed < 1544134711 983302 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd think it's easy to store 12 decimal digits in a number, but it's not, < 1544134720 938174 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's a strange quirk in the arithmetic operations: < 1544134750 666999 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you subtract two numbers and their exponent differs by 10 or 11, then the small number is treated as zero < 1544134758 976874 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't subtract it from the last two digits < 1544134763 921152 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same if they're added < 1544134775 201274 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't have reliable 12 decimal digit integer arithmetic < 1544134785 538202 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could work this around, but it's not easy with such limited programming < 1544134795 681462 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you know that https://www.felixcloutier.com/x86/BT.html actually allows you to address bits in memory (i.e., it'? < 1544134798 450414 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I mostly just stored 8 or 10 decimal digits in a variable < 1544134808 647476 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I didn't use it as a float that is < 1544134817 332589 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. it's meaningful to use offsets < 0 or > 64 with a 64 bit memory operand) < 1544134825 715584 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :make that >= 64. < 1544134839 221436 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@59-100-168-134.cust.static-ipl.aapt.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1544134847 188231 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has what appears to be an 8-bit processor, so arithmetic is slow, and transcendental operations are very slow, but ordinary control flow and copying around values is fast, < 1544134858 694943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: fancy < 1544134877 973112 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what makes the substitute for the missing arrays viable, which is a loop that cycles around 8 or 10 variables by 1, and keeps track of how much it's rotated < 1544134892 677507 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is fast and uses very little program memory or labels < 1544134942 343489 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's only about 1100 bytes of program memory (every function or statement heading takes just a single byte, and every line has an overhead of only 3 bytes), and a program is limited to 20 labels < 1544135328 174155 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-klowbofwxfbuvbpt JOIN :#esoteric < 1544136067 220725 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@59-100-168-134.cust.static-ipl.aapt.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1544137994 730267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1544138079 720546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it strikes me that the "symbols" listing in https://esolangs.org/wiki/Turing_tarpit is completely missing the mathematical point < 1544138102 360101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be describing the number of distinguishable values per memory cell (thus, the counter-based languages effectively have infinitely many symbols) < 1544138112 324939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure that that's a useful statistic for esolangs < 1544138124 451342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they don't normally allow you to give arbitrary actions to arbitrary symbols < 1544138129 800731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when they do, you typically have a tag system) < 1544138296 938915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: there are plenty of higher-level languages which have floats as their only numeric type < 1544138319 8226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally, when you need integers, you use 32-bit integers and store them in doubles < 1544139021 39613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1544139027 79381 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1544139094 392269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1544139622 793431 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"arbitrary actions to arbitrary systems" => hmm. finitely many symbols, or infinitely many? the latter is harder. < 1544139713 433327 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@59-100-168-134.cust.static-ipl.aapt.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1544139766 743273 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1544139851 118264 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I folded up my double bed to single bed configuration. Out came a shitton of dust that doesn't get out in normal cleaning, and two M:tG cards. There are probably some more under it somewhere. < 1544139867 66797 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't the first time I found M:tG cards under it. I've found other lost stuff too a few times. < 1544139900 717951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1544139901 822468 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter whom you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards with dodgy SHIFT KEys, cube root of nine genders, one of which is a Czech woman, and above average, not too voluminous, but calm eyebrows. He sometimes invents without noticing it (see: tanebventions). < 1544139908 506789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I offered Taneb some Magic: The Gathering cards but he didn't take them. < 1544140059 503789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think there are plenty of languages which (at least syntactically) allow you to assign actions to an arbitrary subset of an infinity of symbols < 1544140072 194088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of esolangs https://esolangs.org/wiki/Echo_Tag effectively does < 1544140078 50830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, wrong one < 1544140083 583921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Fusion_Tag < 1544140087 249723 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have too many tag system variants < 1544140137 864896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, I'm not sure it's /possible/ to have too many tag system variants < 1544140139 423903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have a lot < 1544140503 419080 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@77.28.212.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1544140545 346605 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.3 < 1544140714 148027 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cloudgoat Ranger (Lorwyn, english; I have 5 total of it, 3 english and 2 simplified chinese; I like it, only two really goes in a deck but multiple white decks can fit them) and Daunting Defender (Onslaught, english; I have 4 but never use them) < 1544140720 759289 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1544140721 162385 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@77.28.212.36 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1544140721 547544 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@77.28.212.36 QUIT :Changing host < 1544140721 547592 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric