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one in f([x,y]) 00:53:56 \oren: I've discussed this in here before. 00:54:26 \ 00:54:59 I think it would be very reasonable in a C++-ish language 00:55:06 -!- Hooloovo0 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:55:20 Or C-ish, with support for something resembling tuples. 00:55:30 And also structs (for keyword arguments) and so on. 00:55:39 But I haven't worked out the details, you should help me do that. 01:00:46 <\oren\> I mean basically in C the declaration void f(struct {int x; int y;} p); would replace void f(int x, int y); 01:01:34 Right, but what sort of type inference thing would you have? 01:02:27 If you write something like f((blah, {.x = 5, .y = 8}));, do you need to know the type of f to figure out the type of the expression? 01:03:07 -!- Hoolootwo has joined. 01:03:21 -!- Guest7434 has joined. 01:05:38 -!- olsner has joined. 01:06:02 -!- languitarhb has joined. 01:06:15 <\oren\> well in C structs with the same member types in the same order are interconvertible 01:07:07 So you're suggesting there'd be an implicit conversion from the inferred type for the struct to the type that f accepts? 01:07:21 I was thinking along those lines. 01:07:23 <\oren\> but that isn't extended to allow struct{struct{int x}, struct{int x}} to be converted to struct{int x,int y} 01:07:36 <\oren\> if it were though, this would work better 01:07:57 It should also have varargs support of some sort. 01:08:09 Which I think should be easy enough probably? 01:08:30 Of course C-style varargs is scow anyway, but you can make something similar which isn't 01:08:36 -!- languitarhb has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:08:37 -!- Guest7434 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:10:37 I'm a little wary of lots of implicit type coercions. 01:10:48 But maybe it's not so bad if they're pretty clear? 01:17:30 -!- Hoolootwo has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:18:23 The ALGOL 68 coercion rules look too complicated to me: 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No spoilers please. I've only read a few pages yet, but I'm already captivated by Smullyan's unique style. If you read his other pop-sci books, you'll know what I'm talking about, otherwise I can't really describe it. 19:46:39 I like Smullyan. 19:50:15 I have five of his other books on my bookshelf, and have read parts of two others, but this particular book was never translated to Hungarian, which is why I hadn't read it before. 19:50:57 -!- Guest92310 has joined. 19:51:15 Also, Raymond Smullyan died on 2017-02-06. Rest in peace. Smullyan, we'll never see anyone equal to you. 19:52:14 Hmm, let me check how exactly the Lewis Carol book phrases that. 19:52:59 s/Lewis Carol/Lewis Caroll/ 19:55:24 -!- Guest92310 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:57:26 https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking-Glass,_and_What_Alice_Found_There/Chapter_VII 19:58:46 > "There's nothing like eating hay when you're faint," he remarked to her, as he munched away. / "I should think throwing cold water over you would be better," Alice suggested: "——or some sal-volatile." / "I didn't say there was nothing *better*," the King replied. "I said there was nothing *like* it." Which Alice did not venture to deny. 19:58:48 :1:72: error: parse error on input ‘,’ 20:09:05 I thought of some kind of chess variant, "get out of the way" chess variant. After you move one piece, if it does not put or leave either player in check, you may optionally make a second move, but the second move must be a different piece (still your own piece though), and must be a move that would not be possible if the first piece hadn't moved out of the way, and can't put anyone in check. 20:09:46 [[Chicken]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57918&oldid=57901 * Oerjan * (-2133) Undo revision 57901 by [[Special:Contributions/Golfist|Golfist]] ([[User talk:Golfist|talk]]) (Copyvio) 20:12:14 zzo38: hehe, you came at the right time, mentioning such a chess variant when I was just talking about Smullyan 20:14:12 OK 20:20:51 [[Special:Log/delete]] revision * Oerjan * Oerjan changed visibility of a revision on page [[Chicken]]: content hidden: Copyright violation 20:21:16 zzo38: just out of curiosity, have you read some of Smullyan's writings? 20:21:25 s/some/any/ 20:22:44 (Yeah, ok. I keep arguing that English and French and Hungarian uses articles practically the same way, so if you know one well then the use of articles in the other two languages should be easy to learn, but that mistake above proves me wrong.) 20:24:01 I wanted to, but have not ever done so I think 20:24:04 [[Chicken]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57919&oldid=57918 * Oerjan * (+24) Looks dead 20:24:46 zzo38: I'm not saying you have to, they're rather strange books and I can understand if someone doesn't like them, I'm just curios. 20:25:02 I don't know, because I have not read it. 20:25:03 s/curios/curious/ 20:30:28 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 20:38:18 Is there a Haskell implementation in JavaScript that is independent of the host environment? 20:42:40 -!- erkin has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:45:36 [[Befunge]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57920&oldid=57905 * Amicloud * (+5) /* befunge93.js */ 20:56:44 -!- asilluron_ has joined. 21:00:17 -!- asilluron_ has quit (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))). 21:12:31 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 21:17:10 -!- phragment has joined. 21:17:11 -!- phragment has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:17:50 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:18:22 -!- tromp has joined. 22:00:29 -!- sprocklem has joined. 22:00:56 -!- sleepnap has left. 22:06:48 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:07:04 -!- tromp has joined. 22:16:35 -!- bradcomp has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.2). 22:26:51 -!- Fleetwood has joined. 22:32:19 -!- Fleetwood has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:34:27 -!- X-darkWg has joined. 22:43:09 -!- X-darkWg has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:43:42 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:48:44 So the magic (?) of lvalues in C is that they reliably decay to rvalues in most contexts. 22:48:56 Except e.g. as the operand of = or & 22:49:26 That's different from automatic dereferencing like in ALGOL 68 23:16:51 -!- Guest91395 has joined. 23:18:10 -!- Guest91395 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:33:06 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:33:41 -!- tromp has joined. 23:35:07 -!- Essadon has quit (Quit: Qutting).