< 1528243840 250114 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1528243847 339089 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1528244099 946661 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you have issues with your machine? mouse freezing? < 1528244100 96949 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh i know < 1528244104 890994 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so you do! < 1528245439 713915 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric > 1528246585 453368 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Call stack/Manipulation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55565&oldid=55293 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+285) 10 > 1528246957 825069 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Call stack/Manipulation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55566&oldid=55565 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+2) 10 < 1528248652 488673 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1528250884 770115 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1528250893 485258 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1528252309 716243 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e seems a bit biased <-- just so you know i waited an extra day just to give y'all a chance hth < 1528252309 848100 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1528252333 930858 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-cloudy < 1528252334 61737 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ said 6h 1m 5s ago: how do you rate Ai-chan's swedish? < 1528252341 754644 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is Ai-chan < 1528252401 483298 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dobg culprits-c < 1528252403 103440 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :5838:2015-07-12 ` o=bin/culprits-c && echo $\'#!/bin/sh\\n\'\'culprits "$@" | tr \\ \\\\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | tr -s \\\\n\\ \\ \' > "$o" && chmod a+x "$o" < 1528252421 71535 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? culprits < 1528252422 180929 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :c[uw]lprits lists the nicks responsible for a file or wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits FILE or `cwlprits ENTRY < 1528252439 157260 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? culprits-c < 1528252440 194110 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :culprits-c? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1528252540 596085 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn `culprits-c is like `culprits, but gives nicks with counts instead of repeating them. < 1528252542 812917 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned '`culprits-c': `culprits-c is like `culprits, but gives nicks with counts instead of repeating them. < 1528252569 205260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1528252980 512486 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any resources around as to using a queue as RAM? I'm thinking queues as in queue automata. a naive thing to do would be to just keep cycling the queue until you hit the specific cell/address you want but I'm wondering if there's an alternative method. < 1528253038 766465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/culprits-c < 1528253039 415828 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ culprits "$@" | tr \ \\n | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | tr -s \\n\ \ < 1528253090 865378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say, better to show them sorted by first appearance. < 1528253098 913808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess sorted by count might be ore meaningful. < 1528253101 599391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1528253166 425962 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't sorted by count what we usually are looking for anyway < 1528253235 778148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1528253251 988558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits-c wisdom/oerjan < 1528253253 781768 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 118 shachäf 53 oerjän 11 boil̈y 5 noloveinwaikik̈i 2 Jafët 1 nitïa 1 int-̈e 1 hppavilion[1̈] < 1528253258 301965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1528254048 567330 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvB-kv9q7Pk < 1528254065 919707 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well timed, you just avoided a snarky @tell < 1528254074 449433 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let's see... < 1528254391 835605 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: the "Hej på deg Monika" sounds nearly the right except that the "d" is somehow an "l". The rest of the song doesn't sound like much like real swedish except for the occasional word. < 1528254398 987051 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nearly right < 1528254447 338555 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, i don't remember the swedish original < 1528254507 319124 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Hej på dig < 1528254698 58625 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1528261906 967031 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nfyphesbenxpzjbo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1528265565 539241 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-isgksigeafxuvhxp JOIN :#esoteric < 1528266066 339228 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1528269033 892298 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1528270962 598746 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1528272391 897503 :plokmijnuhby!4e93f04f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.147.240.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1528272634 416520 :plokmijnuhby!4e93f04f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.147.240.79 QUIT :Client Quit < 1528272666 664815 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1528277511 17253 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-isgksigeafxuvhxp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1528278630 299723 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Qwertypy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55567 5* 03Saka 5* (+2260) 10Python clone < 1528279514 363862 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... seems pointless < 1528280627 775508 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1528281071 655414 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell arseniiv Thinking of an esolang using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatrod_system < 1528281071 755717 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1528281177 787639 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is how to specify it in a way in a text file that isn't a total mess < 1528281381 246752 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:f478:f47a:cb59:821 JOIN :#esoteric < 1528281395 314995 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there is a lot more details about it on the Swedish wikipedia < 1528281439 394156 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that is unusual < 1528281510 866952 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any heavily physics based esolang? I.e. where it would make sense to use a full blown 3D game engine to implement it < 1528281563 879931 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hi < 1528281594 32263 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1528281661 426079 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: pinball computing < 1528281682 309520 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a pinball game engine and compute stuff in it < 1528281695 179579 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be doable < 1528281732 813149 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet it would look very spectacular < 1528281765 309647 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too < 1528281781 19893 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to program on it, one maybe could utilize genetic programming, if it will be too hard < 1528281804 38639 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm, how do people write in Malbolge? IDK) < 1528281845 463512 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer < 1528282539 446938 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh, have you seen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomogram ? < 1528282560 579536 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can compute pretty complex things sometimes < 1528282564 998603 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe of some use < 1528282670 293418 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, seems familiar, but didn't remember the name of it < 1528283165 611700 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: found this, which seems insane: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automaton_Rover_for_Extreme_Environments < 1528283246 869048 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it via mechanical computers < 1528283589 731249 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :curious < 1528284613 387638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age book is all about (well, not quite, but a lot) "rod logic", which is like a hypothetical (probably unfeasible) nanotechnology-enabled version of that. < 1528284629 731887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Off for lunch now.) < 1528284827 952064 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :something as simple as: < 1528284829 180392 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD #1, #2, #3 If addr #1 is non-zero, add #2 to #3 (writing back result to #2) < 1528284829 238568 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHLT #1 If addr #1 is non-zero, halt the program < 1528284829 281661 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The entire program will loop at the end < 1528284945 487777 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess on top of that you would need to be able to fill the initial data area as well < 1528285044 574054 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could get rid of CHLT if you defined halting as "none of the CADD instructions were executed during the last loop" < 1528285108 791987 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if addition doesn't work for this, there may be some other instruction that would > 1528285359 396407 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Saka14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55568&oldid=55543 5* 03Saka 5* (+32) 10 < 1528286223 722366 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1528288848 30071 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGSC < 1528288848 650306 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGSC 061220Z 04007KT 350V110 9999 FEW028 19/11 Q1015 < 1528290028 484772 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric > 1528290225 980982 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Consequential14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55569&oldid=55540 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+2) 10fix 'eam! < 1528290515 321762 :Naergon!~Naergon@unaffiliated/naergon QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1528290995 604212 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHLT #1 => almost misread this as CTHLH < 1528291071 840552 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cthulhu awakens in a neighboring thread, performs some slightly stochastic and potentially harmful computation and then cthlhalts < 1528291235 227714 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I didn’t get what these instructions are related to. :) They remind of Minsky machine < 1528291553 925536 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: trying to design a minimal computer that is TC without any branch instruction < 1528291589 131759 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at some OISCs, and all seem to have instructions like "do x and then conditionally branch" < 1528291634 113849 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I wondered if you could replace that branch by simple conditional execution < 1528292121 117366 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm without global looping you mentioned I think it should be impossible outright, but with that… < 1528292533 757447 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: if you can conditionally modify an upcomic instruction it might be doable < 1528292545 34181 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's almost reimplementing conditional branching < 1528292757 170292 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I was thinking of separate code and data memory < 1528292819 71507 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :let’s see with recursive functions. 0 is representable, successor is too (with initial data), projections are also, but then we’re stuck with composition, if one of the functions uses the global loop: as we can’t subtract, we can’t switch off the code of the first one; we could switch on the second but not switch off the first. This isn’t a proof, of course, but it should be almost one < 1528292872 88762 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think there would be even greater problems with recursion and μ < 1528292990 453487 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I see < 1528293053 956072 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: we can subtract assuming 2-complement and a finite word size < 1528293111 895938 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :just add negative numbers < 1528293116 349418 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1528293137 808425 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :with finite word size, it’s even harder; how should we be able to address an unbounded count of memory cells < 1528293145 635387 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. 0xfffff1 < 1528293147 128840 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1528293170 403203 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :with unbounded negative numbers — oh why not! < 1528293173 615547 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, that would be a 24-bit word, missed one pair of ff for 32-bit word < 1528293185 960757 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: surely bounded if you have a finite word size < 1528293206 365788 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : with finite word size, it’s even harder; how should we be able to address an unbounded count of memory cells <-- code and data is separate here < 1528293227 265266 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could have unbounded integers for addresses < 1528293237 598986 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, stop, do we address indirectly? < 1528293250 536900 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed this, sorry < 1528293254 310238 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't the idea, but you might need this < 1528293280 691518 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :my idea was CADD taking 3 immediate address operands < 1528293290 134816 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :without indirect addressing or infinite numbers, you definitely should, or we will have bounded memory available to any one program < 1528293310 228632 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm true < 1528293340 917520 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay but if they are indirect addresses we can't address infinite memory < 1528293353 119088 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we still use bounded data words < 1528293362 787413 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1528293463 505318 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: so we can make it work with bignum signed integers for words < 1528293475 520880 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, do we still need indirect addressing? < 1528293601 704491 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not, but IDK what to do with recursion and μ yet (or maybe it’s better to try representing something other like BF machine) < 1528293722 573700 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we could swith on and off various segments of code (if only there’s not too many of them) while looping, it looks hopeful < 1528293809 197998 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if only there’s not too many of them) <-- As long as there is finitely many there shouldn't be an issue. It will be complicated yes, but not impossible < 1528294182 382867 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :having subtraction, copying, multiplication, division and remainder (seems all are yes), we could manipulate strings/arrays, then we should be able to implement a Minsky machine! Registers go in one array, the code in the other, and a cell for IP. Don’t I miss anything? < 1528294217 186826 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we can’t take the sign of a number < 1528294299 173716 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could rely on data being all nonnegative numbers except for −1 which we need explicitly < 1528294383 814907 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the task remaining is to demonstrate my claim in detail, but I’m laaazy :( < 1528294835 985272 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, we couldn’t switch on/off _any_ code, could you add another argument to CADD, so that it will be < 1528294836 110233 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD #0, #1, #2, #3 if #0 and #1 are both non-zero, add #2 to #3 (writing back to #2) < 1528294836 182687 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1528294987 502958 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :also division etc. are unnecessary to show realizable, I’ve gone too meta < 1528295675 287434 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :also could it be not “and” but a “nand” instead, I couldn’t make JZDEC < 1528296219 930841 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1528296221 813603 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02carandycoin 06sqicoin 13noonchirlingcoin 04celucoin 07glucidecoin 08resolabocoin 09nigminiuscoin 02smicoin 068091114coin 13luicalcoin 04chilopolymphcoin 07bullcoin 08sonalcoin 09endslrocoin 02xbritcoin 06fisccoin 13cariumcoin 04vertcoin 07frestfcoin 08sethaxcoin < 1528296250 36456 :Naergon!~Naergon@unaffiliated/naergon JOIN :#esoteric < 1528296485 310464 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hm I even boldly suggest CADD have 5 arguments, #−1, #0, #1, #2, #3, all #−1..#1 should be nonzero to make addition < 1528296706 53489 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it seems to not work < 1528297015 322022 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1528297097 757257 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1528297223 222894 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody have some literature on doing stuff like binary arithmetic on a queue machine? < 1528297262 665583 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(about arguments to CADD) two have been enough, horay! < 1528298381 755862 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal implementation of any Minsky machine, if CADD has two arguments as I’ve suggested: https://gist.github.com/arseniiv/17559458c07a254b84217452c72766e0 < 1528298381 856303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1528302444 439430 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-002-203-077-053.002.203.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric > 1528303528 386738 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Cyantologist 5* 10New user account < 1528305274 222520 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwohxfhqqpoaczmk JOIN :#esoteric > 1528305501 770667 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55570&oldid=55511 5* 03Cyantologist 5* (+237) 10 < 1528308068 318799 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1528308802 381601 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1528309079 333913 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1528309080 331523 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1528309095 510490 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1528309900 374898 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1528310067 712604 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1528310246 201614 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1528310413 367285 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1528311421 178532 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1528313813 365931 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.183.142.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds > 1528313913 125172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55571&oldid=54876 5* 03Cyantologist 5* (+332) 10/* Joke/Silly Ideas */ < 1528314650 685105 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1528314701 502224 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: I have an implementation of biginteger arithmetic, representing integers as basically a list of bits, in haskell. dunno if that helps. < 1528314735 978385 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also try to look for strange exercises in TAOCP < 1528314751 36891 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/Bin.hs < 1528314845 112960 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have arithmetic on Zeckendorf representation, and asked in this channel at some point how you could do arithmetic in nega-Zeckendorf, for which zzo38 actually wrote a solution < 1528314872 141071 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend that if you want to be masochistic, it's much harder to understand how to do it than in binary < 1528315018 472999 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=989716 has add, subtract and compare in Zeckendorf, and http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=849259 has one in decimal although it uses the arithmetic built into perl for single-digit numbers, you could adapt that to binary < 1528315038 975168 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? I already know how to do that.. I was wondering specifically for algorithms centerdd around queue machines. < 1528315042 579262 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, I think doing anything like this with just one queue would be horribly inefficient, because just one queue sucks. avoid it if you can. < 1528315084 189005 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: for queue machines, I think you can merge two numbers so their digits alternate in a single pass, if you have a not too small alphabet < 1528315104 551797 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe you can't < 1528315111 922040 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that would be impossible, sorry < 1528315118 438993 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're basically screwed < 1528315127 773765 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't know what I'm talking about you can just not answer me. :P < 1528315137 36355 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anything is hard on a queue machine < 1528315181 690410 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :a queue machine can simulate a turing machine's tape, so that's a way you can do things like unary and binary arithmetic. < 1528315218 118269 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was just wondering if there were algorithms oriented towards the queue datastructure, rather than just letting a tape lie on top of it. < 1528315275 580042 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks anyway though. < 1528315366 420851 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.1 < 1528315385 283732 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1528315917 615206 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/null is full < 1528316132 530956 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: sorry for being rude, just been banging my head against the wall trying to find relevant literature. everything just seems to point to "hey, an FSM + queue == a turing complete automata", but I've been searching for algorithms that are typically executed on turing machines (things like arithmetic and comparisons, etc). > 1528316175 723768 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:BoutonIA14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55572&oldid=54898 5* 03BoutonIA 5* (-46) 10 > 1528316265 62445 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CopyPasta Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55573&oldid=55324 5* 03BoutonIA 5* (+24) 10Add Category:Inplemented > 1528316325 903905 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CopyPasta Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55574&oldid=55573 5* 03BoutonIA 5* (+0) 10 > 1528316616 980226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CopyPasta Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55575&oldid=55574 5* 03BoutonIA 5* (+4) 10Add link to "Hello World" page < 1528316687 191879 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1528316807 856336 :wob_jonas!b03f1880@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.128 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1528316868 344773 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric > 1528316911 135795 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CopyPasta Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55576&oldid=55575 5* 03BoutonIA 5* (+37) 10Add Category:Unusable for programming < 1528320258 283602 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1528320451 390897 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1528321818 681379 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parent the Sizing14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55577&oldid=55563 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+325) 10heh-heh > 1528321999 71772 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Les Accents Franais14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55578 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+241) 10made a page > 1528322764 101829 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Heavpoot 5* 10New user account > 1528322886 873897 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55579&oldid=55570 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+181) 10 > 1528323132 619132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parent the Sizing14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55580&oldid=55577 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+264) 10meh < 1528325181 485421 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1528325199 907738 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1528326410 38146 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin NICK :filthySJW < 1528326416 721076 :filthySJW!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin NICK :contrapumpkin