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00:00:00 <HackEso> Diagram chasing is a technique used to prove integer lemmas. Taneb invented it.
00:00:08 <wob_jonas> `? merchantable
00:00:09 <HackEso> Merchantable adj. Capable of being chanted by mermaids.
00:07:17 <wob_jonas> `? no u
00:07:18 <HackEso> no u? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:14:33 <moony1339> ais523 isn't here.
00:14:35 <moony1339> :<
00:30:19 <shachaf> `? tanebventions
00:30:20 <HackEso> Tanebventions include necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, Italian, the grace period, the Oxford comma, ruin, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths or tanebventions: foods. He never invents anything involving sex.
00:30:27 <shachaf> `? fueue
00:30:28 <HackEso> fueue? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:32:09 <shachaf> `? special relativity
00:32:10 <HackEso> special relativity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
00:51:53 <moony1339> Taneb, you here? I found a paradox in your inventions
01:11:53 <wob_jonas> `? 6
01:11:54 <HackEso> 6? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
01:12:05 <wob_jonas> `? d6
01:12:06 <HackEso> d6? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
01:12:08 <wob_jonas> `? 20
01:12:09 <HackEso> 20? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
01:12:11 <wob_jonas> `? d20
01:12:12 <HackEso> d20? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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02:14:49 <wob_jonas> `? p
02:14:49 <wob_jonas> `? d
02:14:50 <HackEso> P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP.
02:14:50 <HackEso> D is a letter in the alphabet! It's also the name of a programming language.
02:14:51 <wob_jonas> `? s
02:14:52 <HackEso> Esses are confusing.
02:15:02 <wob_jonas> `? c
02:15:03 <HackEso> C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault
02:15:05 <wob_jonas> `? r
02:15:06 <HackEso> r? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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09:24:36 <oerjan> shachaf: i don't think i've spent much time trying to avoid ScopedTypeVariables in tricky cases...
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09:51:29 <Taneb> moony1339: I tend to be asleep at 1:51AM
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11:13:27 <int-e> pffft. '"UNIX is simple and coherent..." - Dennis Ritchie, "GNU's Not UNIX" - Richard Stallman'
11:14:05 <Taneb> Gnice
11:14:07 <FireFly> `? J
11:14:08 <HackEso> J? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
11:14:20 <Taneb> `? algol
11:14:22 <HackEso> ALGOL stands for A Programming Language
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13:45:28 <danil> ^ul (1)(0)~S:S
13:45:28 <fungot> 10
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15:10:18 <danil> ^ul (Hi) (World) ( ) a^~S
15:10:18 <fungot> ...bad insn!
15:10:36 <danil> ^ul (Hi) a^
15:10:36 <fungot> ...bad insn!
15:11:36 <danil> ^ul (Hi) (a^):~!(~!)s
15:11:36 <fungot> ...bad insn!
15:12:18 <danil> ^ul (^)^
15:12:19 <fungot> ...out of stack!
15:12:24 <danil> Aha!
15:26:14 <imode> what language is that?
15:26:28 <izabera> greek
15:26:41 <FireFly> imode: underload
15:26:46 <imode> ah.
15:26:48 <imode> thanks.
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15:45:54 <danil> ^ul (0):!(2)!s
15:45:54 <fungot> ...bad insn!
15:46:15 <danil> ^ul (0):!(2)!S
15:46:15 <fungot> 0
15:50:09 <danil> ^ul (89):!(92)*S
15:50:10 <fungot> 8992
15:52:08 <danil> ^ul (:)^
15:52:08 <fungot> ...out of stack!
15:52:27 <danil> ^ul (:)^S
15:52:27 <fungot> ...out of stack!
15:53:30 <danil> ^ul ((Hi)) (:)*^S
15:53:30 <fungot> ...bad insn!
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16:31:46 <int-e> I guess fungot doesn't like insinuations
16:31:47 <fungot> int-e: fnord was the problem? lack of variable renaming? there are arguments for and against are tricky. what makes you think
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22:08:38 <shachaf> oerjan: There was that one case we talked about a few years ago when we were trying to remove as many extensions as possible from the Typeable exploits.
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22:21:09 <boily> @metar CYUL
22:21:09 <lambdabot> CYUL 242200Z 16007KT 30SM FEW140 BKN170 BKN220 20/04 A3008 RMK AC1AC4CI2 SLP187 DENSITY ALT 600FT
22:21:15 <boily> WARM! :D
22:21:33 <shachaf> @metar KOAK
22:21:33 <lambdabot> KOAK 242153Z 29013KT 10SM FEW200 17/09 A3001 RMK AO2 SLP163 T01670094 $
22:22:27 <boily> helloochaf.
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22:27:29 <boily> bonsϿirjan.
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22:29:05 <oerjan> bood evenily.
22:30:36 <oerjan> shachaf: hm possibly, i've forgotten the details.
22:31:35 <oerjan> `? j
22:31:37 <HackEso> j? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
22:32:05 <oerjan> `learn J started out as a synonym for I, but then branched out into an array of other uses.
22:32:08 <HackEso> Learned 'j': J started out as a synonym for I, but then branched out into an array of other uses.
22:32:45 <oerjan> maybe the array pun is a bit weak.
22:32:58 <oerjan> still - an actually correct wisdom!
22:33:08 <shachaf> J started out as a synonym for I?
22:33:21 <oerjan> IVST ASK THE ROMANS
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22:35:26 <boily> `quote LATINA
22:35:27 <HackEso> No output.
22:35:36 <boily> `quote LATIN
22:35:38 <HackEso> 351) <ais523_> meanwhile, I've been running a program for over 24 hours (getting close to 48 now) which is calculating digits of pi, in binary <ais523_> so far, it has found four digits <ais523_> I hope it will find the fifth some time this week \ 733) <Gregor> Very much like "cen" is Latin for "horse", "yak" is Latin for "yak". \ 877) <coppro> GreyKnight: for instance, you can form a poset category from a bunch of tiles <GreyKnight> oh, that's why some
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22:36:01 <oerjan> RealUnix28200: so you're not GNU? (sorry, relevant channel discussion way above)
22:36:20 <oerjan> `grwp LATINA
22:36:22 <HackEso> latin:LATINA EST SVBLIMISSIMA LINGVA MVNDI
22:37:34 <oerjan> . o O ( "cen" is latin for "horse"? )
22:37:53 <oerjan> oh e left
22:38:03 <shachaf> that was a different RealUnix hth
22:38:05 <oerjan> saved by a bad connection
22:38:33 <oerjan> oh so it was
22:39:10 * oerjan is a bit scatterbrained at the <s>moment</s>century
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22:39:24 <boily> oerjan: centaur and other grenanigans...
22:39:31 <oerjan> boily: aha
22:39:40 <shachaf> century of the horse
22:39:53 <shachaf> one hundred percent equine
22:39:54 <oerjan> i think centaur is greek while century is not.
22:40:07 <oerjan> the century of equality
22:41:03 <oerjan> the romans should know about yaks, they pretty much invented clean shaving after all
22:42:13 * oerjan wonders if danil will get up to actual looping in underload soon
22:43:15 <oerjan> he doesn't seem to have grasped that whitespace is a syntax error in ^ul
22:44:07 <oerjan> @tell danil PSST: you shouldn't have spaces in your ^ul command, is the main reason you get those ...bad insn!
22:44:07 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
22:44:27 <shachaf> `5 w
22:44:30 <HackEso> 1/2:rdococ//rdococ was thought to be from Budapest, then Mars, but he is actually in Airstrip One. Thanks to boily he is approaching permanent boredom & mapoledom. He is a relative of `words. \ entrymsg//ENTRYMSG for #esoteric is Welcome to the esoteric programming channel! Wiki: <http://esolangs.org/> \ sbus//SBus is the standard bus in many a Sun SPARC-based system, capable of coping with thirty-two (32) bits in parallel, at rates of around 16.67 t
22:44:32 <shachaf> `n
22:44:33 <HackEso> 2/2:o 25 MHz. There is a 96-pin connector, and the cards lay parallel to the motherboard, like toppings on a sandwich. \ mornington crescent//Sorry, you cannot read this wisdom until you've legally played Westminster. \ www//WWW is an abbreviation that takes longer to pronounce properly than what it expands to.
22:44:45 <oerjan> i hope he doesn't interpret that as including the space after ^ul itself.
22:45:01 <shachaf> I wonder who made wisdom/sbus
22:45:04 <shachaf> i,i sbws
22:45:08 <shachaf> `dowg sbus
22:45:08 <oerjan> also did i really make two grammar errors in one line
22:45:10 <HackEso> 6917:2016-02-20 <fizzïe> ` mv wisdom/sbu wisdom/sbus # plurals are hard
22:45:14 <shachaf> `dowg sbu
22:45:16 <HackEso> 6917:2016-02-20 <fizzïe> ` mv wisdom/sbu wisdom/sbus # plurals are hard \ 6916:2016-02-20 <fizzïe> learn SBus is the standard bus in many a Sun SPARC-based system, capable of coping with thirty-two (32) bits in parallel, at rates of around 16.67 to 25 MHz. There is a 96-pin connector, and the cards lay parallel to the motherboard, like toppings on a sandwich.
22:46:28 <shachaf> oerjan: imo what if `culprits generated a tmp/spout where the first line is the culprits and the rest of the file is the doag
22:47:00 <shachaf> This would be a convenient sort of UI and maybe a justification for preformatting spout
22:48:20 <oerjan> seems a bit unmodular
22:48:37 <oerjan> it wouldn't even really save irc space
22:49:38 <oerjan> and if there were more culprits that fit in a line, you couldn't see them with `n
22:49:42 <oerjan> *than
22:49:54 <shachaf> You would distort all the culprits and then distort all the doags.
22:50:22 <oerjan> but then this would break when combined with the *usual* spout commands
22:50:25 <shachaf> It wouldn't save IRC space but it would save work since you could just `n
22:50:42 <shachaf> I guess you could just write a script that printed the output of culprits followed by the output of doag.
22:50:42 <oerjan> e.g. `1 culprits
22:51:10 <boily> `? boily
22:51:11 <shachaf> Sure, but that's true for `1 2 too, and for any program that generates spout directly
22:51:12 <HackEso> ​“Sane Mapoleon” boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He is also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken, a METARologist, seriously lacking in the f-word department, a thwack doctor, a Quintopial antipodist, and a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring.
22:51:18 <oerjan> all the cul doags want such a script
22:51:40 <boily> `slwd boily//s/boring/kafkaesque/
22:51:42 <HackEso> boily//“Sane Mapoleon” boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He is also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken, a METARologist, seriously lacking in the f-word department, a thwack doctor, a Quintopial antipodist, and a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world kafkaesque.
22:51:53 <boily> (working with kafka now.)
22:52:18 <oerjan> boily: i guess it's a new process?
22:55:02 <oerjan> i was about to complain how bad that would be to google, but the top hit is *not* about the author
22:56:13 <boily> it's quite enjoyable!
22:56:30 <oerjan> has it metamorphized your programming?
22:56:58 <shachaf> o() and O() are such a terrible choice of names for similar but different things
22:57:21 <oerjan> shachaf: did you know that technically those are supposed to be *greek* letters
22:57:36 <shachaf> did not know tdnh
22:57:40 <oerjan> all around, very good judgement
22:57:49 <shachaf> Greek letters that look similar to Latin letters ought to be illegal.
22:57:56 <shachaf> This includes nu and omega.
22:58:08 <oerjan> shachaf: technically the latins stole from the greeks.
22:58:34 <oerjan> omega? now you're exaggerating.
22:58:41 <shachaf> Right, and now we're the beneficiaries of that theft.
22:59:12 <oerjan> either that or you're confusing with omicron.
22:59:15 <shachaf> Capital omega is fine.
22:59:17 <boily> oerjan: eh... not yet. containers though are quite the handful.
23:02:13 <oerjan> shachaf: i recall that greek car plates use *only* letters that look similar to latin letters.
23:02:29 <oerjan> whi...bad insn!
23:02:31 <shachaf> As long as there's no potential for ambiguity it's OK.
23:02:39 <oerjan> how did i press that button
23:03:02 <shachaf> maybe you can tanebvent an esolang that uses this greek/latin ambiguity to good effect hth
23:03:12 * oerjan has tried making a habit of not leaving his clipboard with things containing newlines, but sometimes forgets
23:04:08 <oerjan> `? boron
23:04:10 <HackEso> Boron (B) is the element of boredom. Stars hate boredom, so refuse to make it.
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23:26:04 <oerjan> @metar ENVA
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23:58:05 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * King Ethan * New user account
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