< 1523577708 881906 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boily you might like this: https://www.quora.com/Can-Americans-understand-centimeters-meters-and-kilometers/answer/Tom-Robinson-110?share=f0735efc&srid=i3Gd < 1523578018 337188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me, I need to move HackEso from being started in a regular shell session I have open in a terminal. Let's try to do that right now. < 1523578022 359791 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523578039 706511 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1523578082 245884 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: :D < 1523579075 328076 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1523579161 29028 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523580568 479223 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1523581856 789431 :trn!jhj@prone.ws QUIT :Excess Flood < 1523581947 717468 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1523582089 180747 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1523582474 889460 :trn!jhj@prone.ws JOIN :#esoteric < 1523582644 450154 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uaaqydlonvgizoqt QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1523582915 245092 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: BOYCOTT CHICKEN > 1523584365 195610 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Takeover14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54795&oldid=54774 5* 03Ais523 5* (+1763) 10The point was the general technique, not the individual program; however, that's a pretty clever way to implement cat in particular. Perhaps we could do with reorganising this section to split the general technique from cat in particular. < 1523585001 241109 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 263 seconds < 1523585112 802512 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1523585136 711376 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric > 1523585168 616711 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54796&oldid=54781 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+434) 10/* How to create a page? */ At least two ways < 1523586167 474823 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/null is full < 1523587167 827499 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you need to work faster on your botloops twh < 1523587194 921064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think a HackEso/fungot botloop is possible. < 1523587195 284139 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: emacs of course. anyway, the buffer is there to pick /any/ name other than brevity? < 1523587201 565763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, was. < 1523587208 133725 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-gold < 1523587208 222122 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 16h 42m 36s ago: There's a non-zero probability `edit is usable again. < 1523587216 93900 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose. < 1523587993 419351 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1523589004 150600 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dontaskdonttelllist < 1523589004 743250 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dontaskdonttelllist: q​u​i​n​t​o​p​i​a​ m​y​n​a​m​e​ i​n​t​-​e​ < 1523589063 460687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask not, that ye be not asked < 1523589067 15434 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell impomatic Added a citation needed to Wikipedia:Artificial life. reason=There seems to be no original source for this quote, and in fact if you restrict a web search to pages that don't contain the phrase artificial life, there are only a handful left < 1523589067 102082 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1523589689 319453 :petemcsg!~isfvyio@2001:bc8:4700:2300::1:d07 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523589810 51247 :petemcsg!~isfvyio@2001:bc8:4700:2300::1:d07 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523590441 693422 :sag3ix!~wqutsvn@189.124.16.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523590563 402703 :sag3ix!~wqutsvn@189.124.16.170 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523591311 315641 :bryceml193!~jtenhkmo@14.207.112.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523591432 998963 :bryceml193!~jtenhkmo@14.207.112.51 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523592427 7443 :Sigyn9AKX8M!~omsnpt@191.36.247.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523592548 987472 :Sigyn9AKX8M!~omsnpt@191.36.247.1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523593102 151375 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1523593122 968586 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523596055 448422 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1523596238 617421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe SQLite should support a GROUP BY clause in a CREATE TABLE or CREATE INDEX statement so that if your program is working with only a subset of the data and switches between different groups infrequently that the query optimizer will automatically know that, and deal with it properly, and perhaps force to use separate database pages for different groups. But, I am unsure. < 1523596489 30240 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1523596558 133722 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523596574 316892 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523598250 218438 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1523599207 777013 :trn!jhj@prone.ws QUIT :Excess Flood < 1523599820 850121 :trn!jhj@prone.ws JOIN :#esoteric < 1523600706 29597 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523601631 340569 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote partially the document for the format of the .heromeshrc file which contains the settings for Free Hero Mesh. Why do many programs use such a file name for the setting file with "rc" at the end? What does "rc" stand for? < 1523602718 205419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"run commands", according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_commands < 1523604041 694419 :danil!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523604060 887820 :danil!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net NICK :singingbanana < 1523604233 971064 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! Im back from a holiday in Bulgaria. In Bulgaria, I met an amazing guy, John Found. He wrote an assembler-like CMS in assembly, he wrote an assembly-language IDE in assembly, and wrote a BBS in assembly. Also, his whole website is written in assembly! < 1523604416 17886 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :His favourite assembly language is FASM, in which he implemented his CMS and the IDE. I have to say, writing a website in assembly is so... Esoteric? If you dont believe me: asm32.net is his website. It looks pretty good for a website written in assembly. < 1523604426 685714 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523604546 706646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense, but what language does he write in? < 1523604561 563375 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assembly < 1523604610 745906 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :His job is written web apps in assembly for a large production company that makes freezers < 1523604629 986977 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /written/writing/ < 1523604736 279193 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :His CMS is a assmebly language, Minimagasm, made by himself. NB. John Found is just his pseudonym. < 1523604785 416587 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1523604814 400024 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/makes/assembles/ < 1523604851 701597 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oearjan: True < 1523604878 498124 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /oearjan/oerjan/ I cant write! < 1523604915 19622 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My cat is on the keyboard, except some gibberish... < 1523604919 92931 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vgvgvhjhfrdertgh < 1523604934 846004 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1523604935 930913 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1523604956 828964 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1523604984 177676 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was considered to obvious to explain < 1523605042 568882 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowt cat < 1523605044 19716 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3573:2013-08-29 echo Cats are cool, but should be illegal. > wisdom/cat < 1523605049 277467 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Bulgaria, i found a Lindt shop and bought a Kilo of Lindor's. < 1523605061 771721 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn lindor < 1523605062 518537 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "lindor". < 1523605078 112501 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is " @wn"? < 1523605084 95467 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help wn < 1523605084 135999 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wn .......... WordNet (r) 1.7 < 1523605097 288879 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn banana < 1523605098 537491 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "banana" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1523605098 571010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :banana < 1523605098 571050 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: any of several tropical and subtropical treelike herbs of < 1523605098 571079 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : the genus Musa having a terminal crown of large entire < 1523605098 571102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : leaves and usually bearing hanging clusters of elongated < 1523605100 530813 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : fruits [syn: {banana}, {banana tree}] < 1523605102 541305 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: elongated crescent-shaped yellow fruit with soft sweet flesh < 1523605111 999484 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn cat < 1523605112 759745 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "cat" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1523605112 820652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat < 1523605112 820696 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: feline mammal usually having thick soft fur and no ability < 1523605112 854171 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : to roar: domestic cats; wildcats [syn: {cat}, {true cat}] < 1523605112 854229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: an informal term for a youth or man; "a nice guy"; "the guy's < 1523605114 760841 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[28 @more lines] < 1523605126 346581 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more @wn cat < 1523605126 346629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : only doing it for some doll" [syn: {guy}, {cat}, {hombre}, < 1523605126 388066 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : {bozo}] < 1523605126 388107 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3: a spiteful woman gossip; "what a cat she is!" < 1523605126 388118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4: the leaves of the shrub Catha edulis which are chewed like < 1523605126 388126 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : tobacco or used to make tea; has the effect of a euphoric < 1523605128 343253 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23 @more lines] < 1523605142 486636 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more @wn cat < 1523605142 520168 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `more' failed with: Prelude.init: empty list < 1523605151 462241 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1523605167 814467 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn Lindt < 1523605168 808488 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "Lindt". < 1523605173 616320 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... < 1523605219 88303 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love definition 1: .."No ability to roar"... < 1523605271 504136 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough of "@wn" < 1523605300 795010 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dwt Lindt < 1523605301 199631 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: dwt: not found < 1523605321 550312 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'dowt Lindt < 1523605408 584552 :impomatic!~digital_w@host81-136-106-187.range81-136.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1523605468 36299 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is amazing, John Found managed to make emoji in assembly! < 1523605494 886988 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1523605508 504602 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn Emoji < 1523605509 537103 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "Emoji". < 1523605524 445487 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ls < 1523605524 478926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: wn v rc pl msg list let id do bf ask @ ? . < 1523605541 797461 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf +-. < 1523605541 871162 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1523605548 298000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does his assembly web server support status code 404? < 1523605561 119831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it supports 302. < 1523605562 481216 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me look... < 1523605647 91687 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /asm32.net/asm32.info asm32.net is chinese... < 1523605663 977948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Recetly I punned without noticing it, but it wasn't on IRC. Does that count? < 1523605681 456553 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it supports 404! < 1523605713 95504 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asm32.info/jh also, it is secure! < 1523605778 495173 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know, bananas are radioactive? < 1523605823 64760 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, it sounds wierd... < 1523605841 901123 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/wierd/weird < 1523605947 407389 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I cant figure out how to use Alfie-2 OR Alfie-3(they are the first Presumption-based languages IN THE WORLD!!) < 1523606055 26090 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf >+<+. < 1523606055 102947 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1523606059 882199 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1523606069 705746 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf >+<+ < 1523606069 743737 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1523606162 530275 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf [>+<+]. < 1523606162 612227 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1523606221 437992 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++. < 1523606221 438046 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hello World! < 1523606238 351273 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf >++++++++[-<+++++++++>]<.>>+>-[+]++>++>+++[>[->+++<<+++>]<<]>-----.>-> < 1523606238 384756 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : He < 1523606240 509656 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++..+++.>-.<<+[>[+>+]>>]<--------------.>>.+++.------.--------.>+.>+. < 1523606265 46941 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf >+++++++++++++++++++++. < 1523606265 123073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1523606289 714390 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>++++++++++++++++++++++++>,. < 1523606292 324015 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1523606310 876247 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf +++++++++++++++++++++++>,. < 1523606310 946222 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1523606787 135963 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got a issue of the Russian maths&physics journal Quantik. In it, the Parando paradox was explained. My question: is it possible with programming languages? < 1523606849 94886 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Parando/parrando/Parrando < 1523607044 67180 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, have esolang 1, which has same syntax as esolang 2, and count your 'profit'? < 1523607368 494256 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how? A profit-based language? The output is profit from running esolang 1 v. esolang 2. And you like, well.... I dont know... OK, a better model is a language operating on currency exchanges... I dont know... Errr...I have to think about it.... < 1523607600 655822 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ive got it! I'll write an essay on it! Usage of currency exchange model to portray a computing environment found in nature itself. < 1523607701 817947 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can compile it into a graph! Show how to make profit! < 1523607738 390279 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll be a great essay for CS class! < 1523607780 200611 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Business class... < 1523607801 331176 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1523607824 111410 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523608167 429366 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1523608266 995767 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523608333 969445 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1523608506 743811 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at equation 2a = 1b, 1b = 2c, 2c=3a. Obviously, 2a = 2c. 2c = 3a. In a equation in maths, thats wrong. Thats impossible. But hey! Profit! Go from a to b to c in a car, and slowly, profit will appear! Let imagine A-lands currency is a Baton, B-lands is a Asded, & C-lands is the Quirky. 2 Batons is 1 Asded, 1 Asded is 2 Quirky. 2 Quirky is 3 Baton. You have 1 Baton per voyage profit(1 Quirky profit)! < 1523608771 458182 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1523608838 236570 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523609049 246120 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Google, £1 is $1.43. $1.43 is Japanese Yen 153.84. 153.84 Yen is £1. Exactly. But, of course! They regulate their markets! 153.84 Yen in Botswanan Pula is 13.74. Pula to pound = 1 pound. But that is idealized! On a actual markey, youll get either some profit or some loss. < 1523609067 70131 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1523609625 384555 :Slereah!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-22-184.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1523610933 330843 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523611106 978392 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1523611415 952496 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zex1glfa1xy3qc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1523611916 316797 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523611944 546890 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(More likely some loss) < 1523611963 447228 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next step is developing a cellular system! < 1523611992 999281 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step1 -> Step2(diff 2) < 1523612073 726026 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means Step1 goes to step2, but if you had, for example 43 cells in State1, you will have 41 is step2, as 43-2 is 41(diff 2) < 1523612165 201143 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1523612440 733755 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523612450 801267 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you can see the currency exchange model is VERY useful. < 1523613016 168367 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :State1 -> State2(addiff 3, splitrate diff 2) State 1 transfers to state 2, but 2 extra cells appear, and the split rate, the amount of descendents of that generation per round, decreases by 2. This example introduces concepts in nature. I think a new ALPACA can be created using this. It shall be called ALADECESY: A LAnguage DEfining CEllular SYstems. It will be prouncced like: ALADA-SEE-WHY.( If I will ever finish < 1523613018 233739 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :g it). If you really want to, pronounce it "I'd like to see why". < 1523613267 786854 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only problem with ALADECESY is: how do you define a neighbourhood. < 1523613277 270383 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a array? < 1523613293 950680 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1523614248 954875 :danil!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523614275 796942 :danil!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net NICK :singingbanana < 1523614298 597470 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (1 asded) < 1523614315 759429 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (1 Asded)S < 1523614315 823614 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 Asded < 1523614779 937250 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a idea! Lets take a cat program: Input=Output. Lets place restrictions: The only string which cant be in cat is cat. Input=Output, unless Input == cat|CAT|Cat|CaT|CAt|caT. Next, we say < 1523614809 219084 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is if have print in output, I output the integer input+1. < 1523614829 383685 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know that is not the print command...) < 1523614859 749812 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is, any interpreter/compiler is just a cat program with extensions. QED. < 1523615556 309576 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1523615557 205560 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1523615604 33196 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523615627 221497 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1523615661 947925 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zex1glfa1xy3qc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1523615710 675117 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a46c74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1523615910 960249 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523615958 705020 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone explain what a wang tile is? < 1523616214 705611 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1523616291 379254 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523616326 323829 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523616351 341550 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: re Wang tiles, look up "Wang, Hao" in Knuth TAOCP volume 1 < 1523616425 674536 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas:Unfortuantely, I dont have Donald Knuths The Art Of Computer Programming. I wont it.. < 1523616461 71448 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Grandad has one, but he lives a continent away. < 1523616489 687789 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked on Wikipedia, and I dont really get it. < 1523616624 505270 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should buy TAOCP, it's great. or use a library copy until that. < 1523616688 445867 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, TAOCP is great. Our library, the Exeter Library doesnt have a copy. < 1523616746 667330 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read TAOCP 2, about sorting algorithms. It was amazing! < 1523616764 341437 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAOCP is one of the books I keep at my desk at work < 1523616777 843277 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks. I know there are a lot of places in country with no libraries, even places that count as a town (as opposed to a village), and a lot of disadvantaged children grow up in such places. it sucks. < 1523616779 968160 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although my shelf is now too full... < 1523616795 670287 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: now I'm interested. what other books? < 1523616805 679471 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: a whole bunch < 1523616841 638432 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Introduction to Languages and the Theory of Computation, Parallel and COncurrent Programming in Haskell, Homotopy Type Theory, Programming in Haskell, Purely Functional Data Structures, and An Introduction to the Theory of Numbers < 1523616858 567376 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I only know one of those < 1523616861 258463 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to that I want to add Quantum Computing and Quantum Information < 1523616875 176594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a very ad-hoc library here at work, in the sense that there's a room with a bunch of desks to sit at and one wall of bookshelves, but I've no idea where the books come from, or if there's a list of them anywhere. < 1523616894 45155 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Millions of pounds where spend on the Library, and the only book about programming in the library is Java on Android. < 1523616934 344012 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Wow! Those sound like good books! < 1523616941 314837 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: yes, and the problem is that libraries are so expensive to maintain that they responsibly spend all their budget to guard the existing old books than to buy new ones < 1523616966 431017 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me look some of these up < 1523616972 831829 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: is this a university library? Can you travel to a different university and use theirs? < 1523616992 324501 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Town library. I'm not in Uni yet. < 1523617008 216208 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, fair enough < 1523617014 131688 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if they have it available to interlend? < 1523617018 763620 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In our Uni library there is only Art of Python. < 1523617067 800940 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: sadly your case is typical. you can try to get some inter-library loans in your town library, but it still sucks. but you can be looking forward that it will almost certainly improve if you go to college < 1523617070 492817 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exeter Uni only focuses only on Islamic studies and LINGUISTICS. < 1523617085 844901 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "interlend"? that's a word? nice < 1523617102 823645 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our school library is worse1 < 1523617137 286120 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cant wait till Grammar school. They have 2 shelves of CS books... < 1523617175 578150 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Introduction to languages and the theory of computation" => apparently this is a book by John C. Martin. Should I be checking it out if I can? < 1523617201 60217 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it's good if you want the theory behind FSA and turing machines and context-free grammars and whatnot < 1523617203 392571 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For people outside the UK: A grammar school is a goverment-sponsored selective high school. < 1523617217 346544 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I want it. < 1523617247 80137 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I've read the Hopcroft-Ullman book with a similar title for that < 1523617257 637833 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I've got a few books at my parents' house I want to get here, too, but that's at the other end of the country < 1523617260 818013 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's where I read the proof for the two-counter machine < 1523617264 347877 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, it might be worth to check out < 1523617271 721821 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Its written by André Maurois < 1523617281 313634 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I don't know those authors... this was the one my computability course at uni recommended < 1523617311 587382 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: what's written by André Maurois? < 1523617342 784777 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: "Introduction to languages and theory of computation" < 1523617350 164898 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: does 3rd edition from 2003 versus older edition from 1991 matter? < 1523617378 564873 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: that must be a different book then. Taneb: are you talking about the book by John C. Martin, or by André Maurois, or a third one? < 1523617395 900900 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I wouldn't know, I'm afraid < 1523617400 868160 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I've got the 4th edition < 1523617410 372859 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, the John C. Martin one) < 1523617420 309114 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1523617514 198796 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An Introduction to Formal Language Theory By Robert N. Moll, Michael A. Arbib, A.J. Kfoury IS AMAZING. I only read it on Google Books though :( < 1523617533 806676 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently working through Quantum Computation and Quantum Information < 1523617550 843515 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I regret not studying it harder when I was at uni < 1523617583 265461 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I imagine its hard. Im going to read Linux Format in May. They will explain Quantum computing. < 1523617590 733776 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I really started enjoying it near the end < 1523617674 301847 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Are you different from b_jonas < 1523617761 747162 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: no < 1523617778 191446 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: OK. Just wondering. < 1523617864 788643 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so which "An Introduction to the Theory of Numbers"? apparently that's a popular title too, several authors have used it < 1523617904 376549 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least three authors < 1523617912 643217 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! MY WINDOWS ARE FUZZY.... < 1523617924 632455 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY LINUX IS DIYING < 1523617938 886114 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Hardy and Wright, 6th edition < 1523617953 718699 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew. Its behaving again. < 1523617967 358093 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Are you at work? < 1523617970 797366 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: yes < 1523617987 915374 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb; Who do you work as/ < 1523618009 149635 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I work as me, a software developer for a small company in Cambridge < 1523618036 50241 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. What do you develop? < 1523618058 343948 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a company, we get neural networks running on FPGAs < 1523618081 767330 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! I think you mentioned that. that sounds scary. < 1523618091 55464 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad taught me that! Do you use look-up tables to like... < 1523618091 386088 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using a custom compiler from a high-level description < 1523618108 296773 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why I don't have any books on FPGAs, neural networks, or compiling ;P < 1523618149 548734 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's normal < 1523618189 448987 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb:Because when I do that, I write it using a State-machine thing into a look-up table on m Xilinx Spartan. < 1523618199 803827 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/m/my < 1523618313 658683 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you better dont share company secrets... < 1523618333 418602 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's certainly one way, but not the only way, to do it < 1523618344 212169 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1523618390 96134 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523618414 165958 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl motto: There is more than one way to do it! < 1523618536 69380 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: we use http://www.clash-lang.org/ which you might be interested in < 1523618548 137597 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Haskell dialect that compiles to VHDL or Verilog < 1523618570 875626 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Thank you! That's why you have Haskell books... < 1523618602 678880 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Haskell books because I like Haskell :P < 1523618611 616544 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming in Haskell is even signed by the author < 1523618619 349752 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Quite unlike me... < 1523618711 36405 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im learning Haskell cause I have to. I got into esolangs after designing a new language for testing algorithms: Exeter. Its Function-based, not esoteric, but I got a link to here. < 1523618741 606107 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: are you in the UK? < 1523618766 876172 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exeter is not implemented. And it isnt meant to be. wob-jonas: Yes, Exeter is the Capital of Devon < 1523618788 478647 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangs are what got me into programmign < 1523618788 912568 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/wob-jonas/wob_jonas/ < 1523618817 772105 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: How long have you been making esolangs? < 1523618849 549586 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exeter is meant to ease translating pseudo-code to real programming languages. < 1523619035 367402 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ive been making them since I was 7. My dad asked me "What is programming?"(He just wanted to test me). I said "Its when you mobve a turtle on a screen". My dad shoked me by saying someone made Windows OS. Then, by accident I reivented Brainf*ck. < 1523619059 981549 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Do YOU live in the UK < 1523619074 226288 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. I live in Budapest, Hungary. < 1523619109 114878 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Ohhh! I was there on holiday last year. Who do you work as/ < 1523619146 415587 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`aglist 585 < 1523619147 52263 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aglist 585: b_jonas shachaf < 1523619164 523639 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that/ < 1523619168 660226 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently looking for work. My previous work was as a research-developer in a CS company, mostly doing image processing stuff < 1523619171 882120 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aglist < 1523619172 873842 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aglist is update notification for the Abstruse Goose webcomic. http://abstrusegoose.com/ < 1523619267 640025 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were developing stupid approximation solutions for impossible specialized image recognition problems that is < 1523619280 667363 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: 2009 or so < 1523619308 32033 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Oh. My dad worked in a companylike that. Only they made stupid genetic technology. < 1523619340 469320 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They didnt pay him for 2 months! Then the company went bust, < 1523619410 732100 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know the Skripal case? Yesterday, I drove through Salisbury and police is evrywhere. < 1523619557 466902 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So sad... Im sort of Russian, and my teacher was making jokes about the stuff in school. < 1523619590 109375 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a bunch of these notification lists. most of them are inactive, but olist and pbflist and ysaclist get occasional hits. you can subscribe to almost any of them by appending your name < 1523619602 753959 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your favourite esolangs that you made? < 1523619626 294527 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/are/is/ < 1523619654 880838 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favourites of mine are Fueue, COMPLEX, and Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1523619680 108471 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't usually make esolangs, but a certain vaporvare provisionally called "Consumer society" that I'm going to eventually make is currently my fav. < 1523619757 462857 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine are: Borsch and alfie < 1523619835 9357 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1523619914 344337 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523619948 15477 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Xanadu did Kubla Khan a stately pleasure dome decree < 1523620050 314131 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where Alph, the sacred river, ran < 1523620052 87954 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Through caverns measureless to man < 1523620054 82090 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Down to a sunless sea < 1523620111 959314 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So twice five miles of fertile land with walls and towers girdled round < 1523620114 517383 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1523620124 224279 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite poem. < 1523620186 559213 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kubla Khan is my favourite poem because it is feautured in Douglas Adams! < 1523620318 435127 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From line 1-5 its nice. After, er... < 1523620386 73936 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1523620484 790386 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523620511 472122 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im back1 < 1523620596 849205 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I like your Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download language. It might be my alltime favourite < 1523620603 987486 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1523620700 81409 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is sort of a meme in esoteric because it has such a good name and the name was inspired by a spambot < 1523620712 506094 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it? < 1523620727 480694 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1523620767 90334 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where that's documented other than the channel logs < 1523620815 431153 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically there's a movie called "Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster", and a spambot posted a page on the esolang wiki with this title where presumably it advertised some malware trying to make people think they can download the new movie really fast < 1523620815 506934 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I image: All go to #dumbstuff to get a free vist to Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEE < 1523620841 453674 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then someone saw the page and thought the title was too good to delete, and made an esolang out of it < 1523620871 878836 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523620894 799211 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 NICK :Guest64254 < 1523620904 457572 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that the name was not just a random STRING! < 1523620906 850519 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so I heard < 1523620919 976931 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe someone just invented this story together with the name < 1523620939 44768 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to believe because most malware says "Full Movie" or "HD" instead of "Real Fast", but still < 1523620953 783465 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the spam was different back in those days < 1523620961 457483 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1523620965 448925 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1523620991 454267 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O . o 0 ..ooO0 < 1523621104 186065 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam is still wierd these days: "Instool Adobee Flashlight Player at bkukzhf;zakjfbiu.adobe.' < 1523621124 665609 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong spelling intended. < 1523621145 881245 :Guest64254!dlopen@71.19.155.102 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1523621255 203846 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is still a good story! < 1523621296 697243 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is spam targeting esolangs.org a lot?# < 1523621322 279384 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam is targeting everything, especially websites that use stock software < 1523621360 521556 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case it uses mediawiki, so the spammers can reuse their mediawiki spam scripts on most mediawiki sites out there that used to have free registration < 1523621371 480067 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. (I always reply in boolean) < 1523621396 56956 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there are some rumors that some of the spam on esolang is a bit smarter than that, and specific to esolangs < 1523621450 395534 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: singingbanana < 1523622570 952203 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1523622571 355664 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :13) Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. < 1523622572 839526 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1523622573 378758 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :387) ive been in #haskell and #agda primarily, recently So is #agda now full of dependently-typed gay sex? < 1523623483 940722 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1523623484 448561 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1008) ... I was thinking maybe octave's fact() function is the factorial. octave:1> fact(20) Richad Stallman's pinky finger is really a USB memory stick. I don't think that's 20!. < 1523623485 327893 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1523623485 877966 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ggs, and sift \ mixture. Set aside. Bake at 350, blend the apples and sugar and then add the \ celery; beat wells in a mixing bowl. Meanwhile, in a large skillet, knead \ in middle of the dressing. Refrigerate with the cookie cutter and liquid. Fold \ into two lid on the batter. The mustard and with a little potatoes and \ freeze the cooked th < 1523623520 786993 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, that's too complicated < 1523623729 71826 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1523623729 695316 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serpent Assassin \ 3BB \ Creature -- Snake Assassin \ 2/2 \ When Serpent Assassin enters the battlefield, you may destroy target nonblack creature. \ P1-R < 1523623732 145637 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`starwars 5 < 1523623732 719247 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chief Jawa \ Oola \ Cliegg Lars \ Watto \ Jango Fett < 1523624342 9344 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523624359 761339 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? I dont see spam on wikipedia, maybe because there is more articles. < 1523624422 193477 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Ping timeout: 624 seconds < 1523624552 434028 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1523624574 408176 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: there's a lot of spam on wikipedia, but the editors remove them quickly < 1523624585 694717 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them. some stays there for years. < 1523624603 269361 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahhh! Now I get it < 1523624627 709339 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get what? < 1523624645 949619 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why there is more spam on esolangs.org < 1523624661 754913 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't < 1523624677 78997 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais's new registration filter manages to filter out most of it now < 1523624776 501372 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good! What about HQ9++fan and other spammers. You can't just immediately find out that they are here for bad. < 1523624803 163296 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HQ9++fan had a point, a manifesto. < 1523624830 736059 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike spambots, whos only manifesto is a program < 1523624843 982486 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1523625109 336002 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, im getting philosophical. < 1523625223 456615 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading a fascinating PhD thesis recently. About Cellular systems & Genetic programming < 1523625306 745831 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, have you read a fascinating book lately? < 1523625307 193722 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: i found a compositional way to integrate that with extensible event dispatch model which is designed be a lang that will compile and run time respectively, but the < 1523625325 960226 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :???Pardon??? < 1523625340 807705 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, Who is your leader < 1523625341 331489 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: but he's saying that lat can either be a lot easier. i wouldn't use those, but only one updated at any repetition of the loop ( i.e., to make people type out " function" < 1523625346 698743 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is it model-oriented? < 1523625346 883824 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: except i was wrong when i re-read it seconds later. < 1523625392 933669 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, can you make a lisp interpreter with S-expression parsing? < 1523625393 262100 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: because i need the unicode, though. :) her dissertation appears to be swearing in perl. < 1523625400 165185 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how about signals? < 1523625400 495561 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 3 greasemonkey: daemon idle1 bf8. that'd provide the missing incentive. i wonder if there's anything interesting either < 1523625419 762063 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: I have one of those. really stupid and minimal though. < 1523625441 471976 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: What do you have? < 1523625455 277582 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lisp interpreter with S-expression parsing < 1523625467 214553 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me also :0 < 1523625469 299134 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite old too < 1523625480 277628 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :emojised/:0/:) < 1523625502 527166 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you know how to swear in lisp? < 1523625503 15120 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: i seem to recall that many schemes use a format whose first argument is that, if taken when building bridges and buildings, would allow you to protect the fnord. my os idea. < 1523625527 517776 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot:Oh! How is your os called? < 1523625527 802684 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: that one's beautiful. lambda using the lambda, the continuation in ( 1 ( f ( g) ( else f) < 1523625557 307598 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: lambda x. lanbda y. x < 1523625557 483812 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: yes, you can say +clisp, for example < 1523625602 820643 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which style is fungot using? < 1523625602 979397 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: haskell programming is just a plain file < 1523625609 244928 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the Haskell programming style < 1523625610 821005 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1523625610 909514 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1523625625 392996 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: In Xanadu did Kubla Khan a stately pleasure-dome decree < 1523625625 508476 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: i think so. < 1523625663 335884 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agora < 1523625697 31458 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you like Coleridge? < 1523625697 235266 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: you think i'm joking, son. now bend down." < 1523625727 299564 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you wear markov chain mail? < 1523625727 597516 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: though i'm not 100 per cent correct. using read for client data is about as useful as would be a good idea, welcome newton < 1523625744 782536 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, thats random... < 1523625792 451094 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/newton/James Grime < 1523625834 362174 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot; e=2.7.../ < 1523625834 614771 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: i feel pretty dumb without a repl) is between 1.5 and 2 times, respectively. < 1523625851 978525 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[/ %:2 < 1523625855 205221 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[. %:2 < 1523625864 458577 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ %:2 < 1523625870 155595 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUNGOT doesnt close his brackets! < 1523625887 488660 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: What is that? < 1523625930 438017 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint 10**0.5 < 1523625930 895053 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.16227766016838 < 1523625958 239664 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint pi^e < 1523625958 683121 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​i < 1523625980 840100 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eprint pi ** e < 1523625981 278804 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bareword found where operator expected at -e line 1, near "** e" \ (Missing operator before e?) \ syntax error at -e line 1, near "** e \ " \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1523626000 831607 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl 3.14*8 < 1523626001 231358 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open perl script "3.14*8": No such file or directory < 1523626014 55056 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot:Do you like perl? < 1523626024 960682 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1523626028 953935 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1523626055 79871 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot hi < 1523626199 373736 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -a ++$a[$a[$a[$_]]]for@F;redo < 1523626213 56185 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl --help < 1523626213 679403 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ Usage: perl [switches] [--] [programfile] [arguments] \ -0[octal] specify record separator (\0, if no argument) \ -a autosplit mode with -n or -p (splits $_ into @F) \ -C[number/list] enables the listed Unicode features \ -c check syntax only (runs BEGIN and CHECK blocks) \ -d[:debugger] r < 1523626229 906679 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1523626295 169669 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1523626405 309321 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :False is True. is True False? < 1523626447 394114 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? freedome < 1523626448 376301 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :freedome? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1523626448 644542 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? freedom < 1523626449 599282 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :freedom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1523626453 577535 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? war < 1523626454 587268 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot more young people have gone off to fight in this war than I would have, at that age. < 1523626472 677925 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? battle < 1523626473 726724 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :battle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1523626481 459236 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1523626482 395328 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1523626482 678734 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? freedom < 1523626483 595779 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :freedom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1523626488 276487 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ignorance < 1523626489 115278 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignorance? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1523626505 662681 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dog < 1523626506 747680 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dog? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1523626654 207650 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esolang < 1523626655 108364 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1523626682 570310 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1523626683 726501 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ is a misspelling of ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1523626699 712955 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -ERsi "\ < 1523627055 291350 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.eo < 1523627056 227413 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-on: . (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur EFnet aŭ DALnet.) < 1523627070 384824 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :func (add) (x, y): < 1523627077 682766 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : out(x+y) < 1523627089 180074 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :add(2,2) < 1523627124 601981 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.tr < 1523627125 524577 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ezoterik programlama dili tasarım ve dağıtım için uluslararası merkezi hoş geldiniz! : Daha fazla bilgi için, bizim wiki göz atın. (Esoterica diğer tür için, irc.dal.net üzerinde #esoteric deneyin.) < 1523627142 777754 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? glados < 1523627143 900659 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, and again, welcome to the Aperture Science Computer Aided Internet Relay Chat & Enrichment Center. Please enjoy your stay at #esoteric, because you will never leave. < 1523627176 874771 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow........ < 1523627375 364361 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the welcomes also have commands in bin, eg. `velkommen < 1523627401 704037 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1523627458 197108 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`velkommen < 1523627459 239623 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hei og velkommen til det internasjonale knutepunktet for esoterisk programmeringsspråkdesign og -utrulling! For mer informasjon, se wikien vår: . (For den andre typen esoterisme, prøv #esoteric på EFnet eller DALnet.) < 1523627479 967357 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a russian one? < 1523627501 434926 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1523627503 33108 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd wisdom && echo welcom* < 1523627503 555422 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome welcome.bork welcome.de welcome.eo welcome.es welcome.fi welcome.fr welcome.is welcome.ja welcome.nb welcome.nl welcome.sv welcome.tr < 1523627520 117667 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet. you can create one if you want. < 1523627520 310356 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1523627525 829372 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How/ < 1523627532 624812 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1523627544 155903 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first, create a wisdom with le/rn < 1523627546 486542 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn < 1523627547 486908 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. < 1523627558 18169 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes... < 1523627558 626354 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, that doesn't tell the syntax < 1523627579 311276 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1523627590 658778 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax is `le/rn key/value < 1523627608 186364 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the key? < 1523627626 548080 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like `le/rn welcome.ru/something < 1523627646 467882 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the other welcome wisdoms are named like "welcome." followed by a language code < 1523627663 943709 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1523627664 308517 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then look at bin/velkommen and create an executable based on that one I guess < 1523627664 868060 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1523627687 283791 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I look at bin/velkommen? < 1523627688 38014 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them are straight translations of the original welcome < 1523627693 705646 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat bin/velkommen < 1523627694 290154 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome.nb"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome.nb"; } < 1523627703 82376 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow... < 1523627709 775546 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, who made that? < 1523627716 496651 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeahh < 1523627722 295231 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/welkommen < 1523627723 708581 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1523627733 881357 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/velkommen < 1523627734 776697 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1523627735 352210 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :9741:2016-11-20 `` x=bin/velkommen; >$x sed s/\\.fr/\\.nb/g bin/bienvenue && chmod -v +x "$x" \ 9740:2016-11-20 `` x=bin/velkommen; >$x sed s/\\.fr/\\.no/g bin/bienvenue && chmod -v +x "$x" < 1523627742 459100 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1523627744 861208 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appeared by itself < 1523627756 105401 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/välkommen < 1523627757 532281 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :9739:2016-11-20 `` x=bin/v\xc3\xa4lkommen; >$x sed s/\\.fr/\\.sv/g bin/bienvenue && chmod -v +x "$x" < 1523627764 610433 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's got to be one I haven't made < 1523627769 545143 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/bienvenue < 1523627770 813368 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6019:2015-09-16 ` cp bin/{bienvenido,bienvenue}; sed -i \'s/\\.es/.fr/g\' bin/bienvenue < 1523627779 881875 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/bienvenido < 1523627781 344166 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3409:2013-08-09 sed \'s/welcome/welcome.es/g\' bin/welcome > bin/bienvenido; chmod +x bin/bienvenido \ 3408:2013-08-09 sed \'s/welcome/welcome.es/\' bin/welcome > bin/bienvenido; chmod +x bin/bienvenido < 1523627785 320606 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bienvenido < 1523627785 703950 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome.es"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome.es"; } < 1523627787 815663 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/bienvenue < 1523627788 192075 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -w \ if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome.fr"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome.fr"; } < 1523627789 510629 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1523627790 447830 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​nyfB#iQnHV(zP^Y*(e"s*gwԓvSŮTy h_ءA//Tʞ3|o"ID < 1523627796 216233 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :owhat?? < 1523627800 537029 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, those are by oerjan < 1523627819 423234 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're earlier than bin/velkommen < 1523627825 605455 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew it wasn't me < 1523627835 948076 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean they look.... Like a bit hard? < 1523627899 943455 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: then write the translation and create the wisdom and then bother other people hoping they'll create the executable < 1523627915 98241 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1523627916 23819 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1523627923 513406 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome singingbanana < 1523627924 543401 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1523627928 195071 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1523627931 782655 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenue singingbanana < 1523627932 736186 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: . (Pour l’autre type d'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur EFnet ou DALnet.) < 1523627947 337136 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there are the rainbow and unicorn versions... < 1523627953 672653 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1523627957 515918 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1523627958 648536 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: . (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On eFnEt oR DaLnEt.) < 1523627964 554264 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME < 1523627965 630879 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: . (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON EFNET OR DALNET.) < 1523627972 607681 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew < 1523627973 732440 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) . :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW < 1523627986 404254 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the saner ones < 1523628058 192147 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn welcome.ru/Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: . (Для другого типа эзотеризма попробуйте #esoter < 1523628060 194665 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fnet или DALnet.) < 1523628073 589956 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what? < 1523628104 225478 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.ru < 1523628105 150920 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.ru? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1523628144 515092 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot the backtick < 1523628153 882551 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hackeso didn't listen < 1523628171 281618 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn welcome.ru/Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: . (Для другого типа эзотеризма попробуйте #esote < 1523628172 42712 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/le/rn: line 6: $(echo-p "wisdom/$key"): File name too long < 1523628173 187956 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFnet или DALnet.) < 1523628182 4502 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm... < 1523628242 39250 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help!! < 1523628283 465754 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn welcome.ru / Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: . (Для другого типа эзотеризма попробуйте #eso < 1523628284 123632 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/le/rn: line 6: $(echo-p "wisdom/$key"): File name too long < 1523628286 204954 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :в EFnet или DALnet.) < 1523628289 901387 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stilll; < 1523628340 690844 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn WNr1VyFtqENzl/WNr1VyFtqENzl is a test wisdom to check if the g->s transition has broken a certain wisdom-creating scrit < 1523628341 96662 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: `le/[/]rn // < 1523628349 501098 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn WNr1VyFtqENzl//WNr1VyFtqENzl is a test wisdom to check if the g->s transition has broken a certain wisdom-creating scrit < 1523628351 306106 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'wnr1vyftqenzl': WNr1VyFtqENzl is a test wisdom to check if the g->s transition has broken a certain wisdom-creating scrit < 1523628358 68282 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget wnr1vyftqenzl < 1523628359 327239 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1523628367 350222 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: sorry, try with a double slash instead of a single slash < 1523628370 799591 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't put spaces around it < 1523628398 773718 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn welcome.ru//Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: . (Для другого типа эзотеризма попробуйте #esot < 1523628399 341813 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/le/rn: line 6: $(echo-p "wisdom/$key"): Is a directory < 1523628401 236125 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : EFnet или DALnet.) < 1523628411 599683 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1523628417 843571 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie! < 1523628418 186068 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what? < 1523628443 523243 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats going on/ < 1523628451 710704 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: can you help? < 1523628463 460476 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll create it manually in the meanwhile < 1523628473 909084 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What manually? < 1523628486 237790 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` >wisdom/welcome.ru echo 'Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: .' < 1523628486 743137 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/welcome.ru: Is a directory < 1523628492 425025 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1523628499 605654 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the botched remain of the previous try < 1523628502 863653 :olsner!~salparot@c83-249-177-44.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olsner < 1523628503 815854 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner seems to exist at least. He builds all his esolangs in diesel engines. His poetry's alphanumeric. < 1523628504 936294 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rmdir wisdom/welcome.ru < 1523628505 465140 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1523628513 261965 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :retry the le//rn command now < 1523628528 314564 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn welcome.ru//Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: . (Для другого типа эзотеризма попробуйте #esot < 1523628530 140522 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'welcome.ru': Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: . (Для < 1523628530 190710 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : EFnet или DALnet.) < 1523628535 707441 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yess! < 1523628538 349356 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1523628544 550848 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost good, but its end is truncated < 1523628547 189217 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.ru < 1523628548 111623 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: . (Для другого ти < 1523628551 644734 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the end of the message supposed to be? < 1523628554 156125 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no! < 1523628571 7749 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :другого типа эзотеризма попробуйте #esoteric в EFnet или DALnet.) < 1523628573 400576 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worries, the learn just doesn't fit in one irc message, so we have to combine it from multiple commands < 1523628593 46102 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1523628623 956281 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what shall we do < 1523628648 819179 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me a moment < 1523628690 41880 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, also I put International center instead of international millenium. Is that OK? < 1523628811 759082 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.ru < 1523628812 558564 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: . (Для другого ти < 1523628821 857241 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still... < 1523628824 932172 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be fine now I hope, although it's longer than an irc line < 1523628841 966251 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1523628844 467808 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.ru < 1523628845 600513 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: . (Для другого ти < 1523628860 578788 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the другого типа эзотеризма попробуйте #esoteric в EFnet или DALnet.) is not there < 1523628865 982549 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1523628880 41665 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is there in the wisdom, it just doesn't fit an irc line < 1523628899 251190 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno what we should do about that < 1523628919 554511 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I can print it, but we won't be able to get a hackeso command that prints all of it < 1523628933 945938 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the precedent for this? isn't relcome also too long? < 1523628948 925574 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pardon/ < 1523628954 304618 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1523628954 370280 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1523628956 98014 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1523628960 970912 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ? < 1523628968 990299 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1523628981 16405 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do we do if the localized welcome message doesn't fit in an irc line? < 1523629022 152685 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: the welcome message says "hub", it's only the topic that says "millenium" right now < 1523629023 931890 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1523629024 870567 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1523629031 51507 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ see, it says "hub" < 1523629048 204497 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh! Sorry. < 1523629114 457362 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In russian the closest to hub is centre. < 1523629179 900426 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a command to know whos online? < 1523629359 707388 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who and names, but most irc clients do that on their own < 1523629362 423959 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523629379 430438 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the irc server sends you names replies when you join a channel < 1523629397 963240 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you just want the list of nicks joined, you don't have to query anything, just follow what the irc server tells you < 1523629401 668559 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most clients do at least that < 1523629415 917457 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't matter < 1523629425 32857 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can just bug shachaf or fizzie when they're summoned < 1523629460 477247 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1523629484 617862 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf:Come < 1523629502 162437 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie:Come! < 1523629521 951482 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like they are offline! < 1523629560 600373 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :singingbanana: they'll come, don't worry. you get what you pay for. you haven't payed for fast reaction times over the clock. < 1523629582 990506 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pardon? < 1523629600 957815 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I get it. < 1523629662 109882 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew < 1523629663 90056 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) . :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW < 1523629697 726801 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1523629763 400726 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wlcm < 1523629764 341433 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wlcm t th ntrntnl hb fr strc prgrmmng lngg dsgn nd dplymnt! Fr mr nfrmtn, chck t r wk: . (Fr th thr knd f strc, try #strc n EFnt r DALnt.) < 1523629765 158267 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wercome < 1523629766 62968 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ!詳しく、ウィキを見て: 。(他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ) < 1523629779 504552 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`Welcome < 1523629780 512003 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome To The International Hub For Esoteric Programming Language Design And Deployment! For More Information, Check Out Our Wiki: . (For The Other Kind Of Esoterica, Try #Esoteric On EFnet Or DALnet.) < 1523629794 832456 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`jrypbzr < 1523629795 775907 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jrypbzr gb gur vagreangvbany uho sbe rfbgrevp cebtenzzvat ynathntr qrfvta naq qrcyblzrag! Sbe zber vasbezngvba, purpx bhg bhe jvxv: . (Sbe gur bgure xvaq bs rfbgrevpn, gel #rfbgrevp ba RSarg be QNYarg.) < 1523629809 730403 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that < 1523629817 894520 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rot13 < 1523629825 643166 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :knew it! < 1523629847 588423 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wehlcohme < 1523629848 674232 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wehlcohme to the ihntehrnahtiohnahl huhb fohr ehsohtehrihc prohgrahmmihng lahnguahge dehsihgn ahnd dehployhmehnt! Fohr mohre ihnfohrmahtiohn, chehck ouht ouhr wihki: . (Fohr the ohthehr kihnd ohf ehsohtehrihca, try #ehsohtehrihc ohn EhFneht ohr DAhLneht.) < 1523629868 388526 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the hahvahd vehshiohn < 1523629888 910394 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's the eye-burning relcome, and < 1523629897 157680 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bin/$'\x01'welcome < 1523629897 709883 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: bin/.welcome: No such file or directory < 1523629899 987394 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bin/$'\x02'welcome < 1523629901 60331 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1523629903 248719 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that < 1523629908 828606 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome < 1523629909 990452 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1523629955 284622 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and the vampire version < 1523629958 290656 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`velcome < 1523629959 391817 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Velcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our viki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1523630055 460949 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bin/?*w?*e?*l*c*o*m?*e* # there's also this synonym for welcome but I can't type its real name < 1523630056 836752 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08EFnet 09or 02DALnet.) < 1523630242 394425 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome Wo Wehe Winternational wuhub wufor wesoteric wuprogramming wulanguage wudesign wand wudeployment wu! Wufor wumore winformation wucheck wout wour wiki: (Wufor Wuthe wother Wukinds wof wesoterica, wutry #wesoteric won WEFnet wor WUDALnet) < 1523630248 468487 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` $'bin/\x0304w\x0308e\x0309l\x0311c\x0312o\x0313m\x0304e\x0F' # that's its actual name < 1523630249 634657 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06Welcome 13to 04the 07international 08hub 09for 02esoteric 06programming 13language 04design 07and 08deployment! 09For 02more 06information, 13check 04out 07our 08wiki: 09. 02(For 06the 13other 04kind 07of 08esoterica, 09try 02#esoteric 06on 13EFnet 04or 07DALnet.) < 1523630299 572699 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :le//rn < 1523630322 680176 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le//rn welcome.wu/Welcome Wo Wehe Winternational wuhub wufor wesoteric wuprogramming wulanguage wudesign wand wudeployment wu! Wufor wumore winformation wucheck wout wour wiki: (Wufor Wuthe wother Wukinds wof wesoterica, wutry #wesoteric won WEFnet wor WUDALnet) < 1523630324 575814 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'welcome.wu/welcome wo wehe winternational wuhub wufor wesoteric wuprogramming wulanguage wudesign wand wudeployment wu! wufor wumore winformation wucheck wout wour wiki: (Wufor Wuthe wother Wukinds wof wesoterica, wutry #wesoteric won WEFnet wor WUDALnet) < 1523630341 197987 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah! < 1523630344 660475 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome.wu < 1523630345 155161 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome.wu: not found < 1523630351 836853 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do that < 1523630358 47941 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1523630360 562321 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those silly versions don't need a wisdom < 1523630368 210460 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. Sorry. < 1523630377 69272 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I delete it? < 1523630381 53081 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're present only as executables, and usually dynamic ones that translate the text of welcome < 1523630399 808333 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pardon? < 1523630416 786205 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im very sorry... < 1523630423 242564 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually. < 1523630455 364645 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget welcome.wu < 1523630455 814749 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove 'wisdom/welcome.wu': Is a directory < 1523630461 518631 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-anorgmjqtfefkjdi JOIN :#esoteric < 1523630462 456874 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1523630473 530716 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the double slash thing again < 1523630475 846213 :singingbanana!~danil@cpc88836-newt35-2-0-cust780.19-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir? < 1523630488 592313 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rm -rv wisdom/welcome.wu/ < 1523630490 67873 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed 'wisdom/welcome.wu/welcome wo wehe winternational wuhub wufor wesoteric wuprogramming wulanguage wudesign wand wudeployment wu! wufor wumore winformation wucheck wout wour wiki: mv data/8ballreplies share/; sed -i -e \'s/data/share/\' bin/8*ball; rmdir data # going to hit some empty-directory problem again, I\'m sure \ 4564:2014-04-15 mkdir data; mv 8ballreplies data/; sed -i -e \'s|8ballreplies|data/8ballreplies|\' bin/8ball # let\'s keep the /hackenv clean and tidy, everybody \ 456 < 1523637116 374022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no evidence of bin/8ball bring edited for 4 years hth < 1523637141 639265 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag share/8ballreplies < 1523637143 93681 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :8689:2016-07-04 ` echo "I\'m a random number generator that reads from a file. Make your own damn decisions." >> share/8ballreplies \ 8688:2016-07-04 ` echo "Holy shit, I can\'t believe you\'re even asking me. NO!" >> share/8ballreplies \ 4569:2014-04-15 sed -i \'s/Concantrate/Concentrate/;s/$/./\' sha < 1523637147 95503 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ^ < 1523637189 371777 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523637404 512761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: The IRC line length limit is complicated, but HackBot's target length is a fixed 350 not including the complicated parts. < 1523637417 595504 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok < 1523637419 649838 :relrod!~relrod@origin.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1523637420 703114 :relrod!~relrod@origin.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host < 1523637420 736501 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1523637433 135423 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you say? < 1523637466 39873 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how should the russian welcome command work? require a `spam for the part about the other type of esoteric? < 1523637493 361037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend making it shorter < 1523637519 813763 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but it's way too long. you know, because it's mostly made of russian letters, which take up two bytes. < 1523637527 432332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not *way* too long. < 1523637540 682426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, hpp shouldn't be messing with 8ballreplies < 1523637565 959165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpp lacks finesse < 1523637583 216655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if I bump the HackEso-imposed limit by a little, which could be reasonable. 350 is pretty conservative, since it leaves 160 bytes for the overhead. < 1523637633 741814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :":HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" doesn't take all that much space, plus some slack for incidentals and the weird registered-or-not prefix thing. < 1523637642 418935 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so do I < 1523637658 535563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 cat share/8ballreplies < 1523637659 300444 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:It is certain. \ It is decidedly so. \ Without a doubt. \ Yes definitely. \ You may rely on it. \ As I see it, yes. \ Most likely. \ Outlook good. \ Yes. \ Signs point to yes. \ Reply hazy try again. \ Ask again later. \ Better not tell you now. \ Cannot predict now. \ Concentrate and ask again. \ Don't count on it. \ My reply is no. \ My sourc < 1523637668 966558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1523637669 520370 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:es say no. \ Outlook not so good. \ Very doubtful. \ Holy shit, I can't believe you're even asking me. NO! \ I'm a random number generator that reads from a file. Make your own damn decisions. < 1523637677 501881 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there's also a plus and two bytes of newline (the server always sends crlf, even though it accepts lf) < 1523637697 362386 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and in the welcome commands, we allow a nick < 1523637697 613190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 doag share/8ballreplies < 1523637697 881958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: The 160 was 510-350. < 1523637699 340512 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2: share/8ballreplies \ 4568:2014-04-15 sed -i \'21,$d\' share/8ballreplies #More fun than `revert \ 4567:2014-04-15 ` echo 42 >> share/8ballreplies \ 4566:2014-04-15 mv data/8ballreplies share/; sed -i -e \'s/data/share/\' bin/8*ball; rmdir data # going to hit some empty-directory problem again, I\'m sure < 1523637704 589424 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`velkommen shachaf < 1523637705 540298 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Hei og velkommen til det internasjonale knutepunktet for esoterisk programmeringsspråkdesign og -utrulling! For mer informasjon, se wikien vår: . (For den andre typen esoterisme, prøv #esoteric på EFnet eller DALnet.) < 1523637718 587607 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the nick on freenode can be up to, what, 15 or 16 bytes? let me look that up < 1523637812 202417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :429 (payload) + 2 (crlf) + 51 (command) + 1 (that thing) + 18 (let's say nick, colon and space) = 501. < 1523637813 522753 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16. and the channel length can be up to 50 bytes on freenode (it's even longer on some other networks). < 1523637816 378483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg cat -r 4569 share/8ballreplies > share/ballreplies < 1523637818 559533 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1523637824 929799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but this is #esoteric, not an arbitrary channel. < 1523637832 708524 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's true < 1523637853 275910 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you control hackeso, you can also make its username shorter < 1523637871 248796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming multibot supports that. < 1523637877 303798 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hostname is harder to make shorter, it requires buying domains and dns and setting up dns and reverse dns entries < 1523637894 477999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's a good idea < 1523637931 921794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie already has a pretty short domain name < 1523637943 395611 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1523637944 288692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :logPrint("USER %s localhost localhost :MultiBot\r\n", nick); < 1523637965 813360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess it's always the nick. Though I could patch it. < 1523637990 314197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or run an identd, I guess. < 1523638012 56076 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the identd can cut one more byte, the tilde < 1523638048 885981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's why fizzie just suggested it < 1523638062 750806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, and because it would mean I don't have to patch the code. < 1523638096 620360 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think it works that way < 1523638110 681916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have to match the provided one? < 1523638114 553517 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know, but I thought the tilde disappears only if the USER and the identd response is string equal < 1523638119 292532 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure really < 1523638120 631930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be. Would make sense. < 1523638120 707430 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never tried < 1523638125 516353 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me ask #freenode < 1523638187 402606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose migrating to #eso < 1523638227 205929 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what if you just make it join with a short nick, then immediately reNICK him? < 1523638268 845225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably not much simpler than just hardcoding the username in there. < 1523638299 650524 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or add a proxy between it that rewrites the USER line? um wait, is it using ssl? < 1523638309 806739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't have time for mucking around with identd (going on vacation), but I think I could switch it to "~h" and bump the hackbot limit to what the current setup can support. < 1523638317 654931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's not. < 1523638318 629549 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, no ssl < 1523638465 73944 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-242-131.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523638481 62230 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1523638546 135921 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523638556 315909 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1523638557 595184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.ru < 1523638558 627412 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Добро пожаловать в Международный центр по разработке и внедрению языков эзотерического программирования! Для получения дополнительной информации посетите wiki: . (Для другого типа эзотеризма попробуйте #esoteric в EFnet или DALnet.) < 1523638591 580642 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want an irc server that doesn't even bother telling the real username and host in the username@host part, just pretends it's always a@a. < 1523638596 220327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be 31 bytes of slack for adding a "nick: " in front. < 1523638714 62225 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 18 bytes of slack on freenode < 1523638729 766738 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: on freenode, the max nick length is 16 < 1523638736 657000 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this depends on the network < 1523638794 476229 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: #freenode tells me an identd might be enough alone < 1523638809 526734 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried setting up an identd yet, so I don't know < 1523638856 373692 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how complicated is an identd? < 1523638857 790984 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the limit I set (which is close to the maximum with some rounding-off since I probably didn't count right) was 460 bytes, so since that message is 429, there's currently 31 bytes left. The nick part is under the hackbot limit, since it's part of the body. < 1523638878 378501 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a fake indentd that is, one that always tells the username is "a" < 1523638900 765930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of them around. I think I've used... oidentd? < 1523638925 478811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably some that are very simple if that's all you want. oidentd can do a mixture of fake and real replies. < 1523638947 944095 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer all fake. less chance of accidental security bugs. < 1523639015 844234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably could use "while true; do echo ... | nc -l ...; done" as your identd for that. Though I'm not sure how security-minded netcat implementations are. < 1523639034 745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess it needs a bit more than that, since it needs to copy the input to the output. < 1523639055 700986 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: basically I don't know how involved the identd protocol is < 1523639065 55463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ancient, so very simple. < 1523639093 411337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Line-oriented, input is two decimal integers "N, M" and output is "N, M : USERID : UNIX : a" in your case. < 1523639107 107354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The integers being the local and remote ports of the connection.) < 1523639166 803640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm sure someone's written a very simple constant-response identd.) < 1523639188 326857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nullidentd" sounds like a likely candidate. < 1523639194 234028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nullidentd is a small, fast and secure identd daemon. It returns a static string for every query." < 1523639340 141331 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-242-131.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1523639493 412175 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1523639694 454152 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-242-131.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1523639745 472917 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I see < 1523639800 790825 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1523639839 937386 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in English, are there two different verbs of which the present participle form is the same? there's this rule about doubling the final letters that avoids that most of the time, but I think there was some strange example where a collision still happened. < 1523639893 151394 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering because of Intercal, which has the "abstain from fooing" thing < 1523640248 456597 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I think there are < 1523640683 278539 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1523640683 779532 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :436) elliott: an old colonel lost, but a new brother gained. together they will ascend, each time you must be adventurin'. < 1523640687 309512 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`recipe < 1523640687 748088 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :drate, 5g fat, 8 g \ carbohydrate, 157mg, potassiol and lot of other \ from living main dampenage for yours. Is evenants will pieces of bag \ will rolled for cooking. \ \ From fat and the cold with a chili sesame bitter exchanges. \ \ Source: Per Serving: 2008 Cylils, 1988. Source: Instansonine/chili of Advisory \ Soups "SAUCE" Company: Beat in All Parmesan cheese \ \ Source: Levan Cookbook our I'll Green seasoning. It have add the shrimp in a < 1523640691 22605 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-card < 1523640691 655706 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pristine Angel \ 4WW \ Creature -- Angel \ 4/4 \ Flying \ As long as Pristine Angel is untapped, it has protection from artifacts and from all colors. \ Whenever you cast a spell, you may untap Pristine Angel. \ DST-R, CNS-M < 1523640720 878693 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"potassiol"? < 1523640736 805022 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "sampenage"? recipe isn't usually inventing words < 1523640746 872908 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Instansonine" too? < 1523640903 453935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are mat and matte different verbs, and what's the present participle of the latter? < 1523640906 472391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wordnet has "entangle, tangle, mat, snarl" and "felt, felt up, mat up, matt-up, matte up, matte, mat" as two separate entries with relatively different meanings.) < 1523640929 321644 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check my dict < 1523640958 568201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, wiktionary doesn't accept it as a verb at all, so. < 1523640996 145482 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're right, both have "matting" as their present participle according to my dict < 1523641030 884094 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should work, yes < 1523641039 794491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't really come up with it spontaneously, used cat /usr/share/dict/words | egrep '([b-df-hj-np-tv-z])\1[aeiou]$' for inspiration. < 1523641068 5165 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what should "(300) DO REINSTATE MATTING" do if the interpreter supports both the "MAT" and "MATTE" commands? < 1523641554 880993 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, the dictionary actually says that "matte" is a variant spelling of "matt", and that "matt" is a verb whose present participle is "matting", but that still works fine < 1523642023 578504 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-242-131.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1523642123 896426 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: M:tG: Dominaria Update Bulletin https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/dominaria-update-bulletin-2018-04-13 < 1523642290 235432 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu JOIN :#esoteric < 1523643069 591135 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh here he is. hello, j-bot! < 1523643073 843866 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[. %:10 < 1523643074 808506 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 3.16228 < 1523643082 363189 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ,~%:10 < 1523643083 355597 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 3.16228 3.16228 < 1523643102 227913 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 10^0.5 < 1523643103 215393 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: 3.16228 < 1523643150 19112 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ */i.10 < 1523643151 7953 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 0 < 1523643161 544226 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ */1+i.10 < 1523643162 474152 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 3628800 < 1523643483 13846 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name damping sphere < 1523643483 849959 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1523643605 572082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They mention the changes there but the changes do not seem to actually be posted yet? < 1523643649 705100 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, the bulletin is always days before the comp rules comes out, because the comp rule changes goes through an editing phase after it leaves the rules manager's desk < 1523643662 654530 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the modified rules will come out in a week or two < 1523643819 431882 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1523643827 186749 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name plummet < 1523643827 698931 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plummet \ 1G \ Instant \ Destroy target creature with flying. \ ARC-C, M11-C, M12-C, M13-C, M14-C, CNS-C, M15-C, MM2-C, ORI-C, BFZ-C, CN2-C < 1523643848 39770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plummet is tg < 1523644028 138207 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, Dominaria seems a bit underwhelming for me. < 1523644034 264341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since, I have some questions, which are not answered in that update bulletin but I expect will be once the rules are actually posted, such as a few things about Sagas < 1523644067 123792 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people were really enthusiastic about it, but I don't know what they saw in it < 1523644077 425314 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I'm looking at all the cards < 1523644087 318631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the cards I have seen for Dominaria; I prefer Time Spiral, but they already did Time Spiral so now they are going to make something else instead. < 1523644102 302068 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And there are things I would have done that WotC is unlikely to do, anyways) < 1523644125 879280 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a very few cards I like, sure, but in the whole it looks ugly, and too few cards grab my attention < 1523644127 786357 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two things I don't like, the phrasing "any target" and the way legendary sorceries are working. < 1523644203 963803 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess not all sets can be winners. there's still all the cards from other sets. < 1523644214 553140 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like anyone forces me to choose cards from this set < 1523644258 793183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if other card having the same restriction as legendary sorceries, that is messy! And, "legendary" isn't supposed to working like legendary sorceries do anyways it doesn't make sense! I propose those cards should remain legendary, but also add a keyword ability with the meaning that is now for legendary sorceries, but that keyword ability is suitable for any playable card. < 1523644286 261726 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: They do, if you enter those tournament, but you do not need to enter those kind of tournament < 1523644465 288039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all of the .*rc files are used to "run commands", although some are. < 1523644787 798981 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1523644799 702249 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh! < 1523644864 55343 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Charge is a card I like. this effect used to cost 3 mana, then later 2 mana, sometimes even 2 mana with advantages, and Ravnica almost has a 1 mana version, but this is the first time they print it straight up for 1 mana I think < 1523645037 974897 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not practically be better than the ravnica version (Wojek Siren), but still, it's good to know that it exists now < 1523645069 816761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, in C you can index a 2D array arr as "x[arr][y]" < 1523645164 396039 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the article even says that: "eep in mind that this article was written before the rules changes were finalized in editing, so there may be minor deviations from what I describe below." < 1523647550 381060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : {-} Planeswalker Land (4) ;; +1: Add {U}. ;; -1: Add {W}. ;; -1: Add {B}. < 1523647891 949596 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it disappeared briefly because VPS provider's switch had some hiccups < 1523647916 815533 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: what disappeared? j-bot? < 1523647920 391076 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1523647925 828107 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1523647929 5619 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad it's back < 1523648242 601170 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's the ;;? life? < 1523648255 54267 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1523648277 758846 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I guess it should be tapping... so what's the number by itself? < 1523648333 376869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The ;; is the paragraph separator < 1523648357 510271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The abilities are loyalty abilities (so, not mana abilities) < 1523648358 760768 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the number is loyalty cost in a loyalty ability < 1523648444 401198 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should really use fake keywords for that, especially now that we have levels, saga chapters, and loyalties < 1523648456 96448 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by fake keywords I mean a keyword that isn't printed on the card < 1523648473 741266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Levels and saga chapters are keyword abilities < 1523648486 578597 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but is there a keyword we can use to mark them? < 1523648492 243847 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or syntax or something < 1523648495 507075 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to mark them in plain text < 1523648510 897829 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when they aren't printed to a card formatted with those shaded or boxed elements < 1523648511 196870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't know how to represent them in ASCII; I thought perhaps something like or for chapters < 1523648530 606302 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, just use a plain word < 1523648544 427865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps "Chapter I--" < 1523648546 975276 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "chapter 1 - foo" and "-1 loyalty - foo" < 1523648554 295952 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: ah, newfangled nonsense < 1523648569 851136 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: sort of. but levels aren't. < 1523648597 938214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loyalty abilities are still activated abilities, but it is a special kind of activated abilities compared with the other kind < 1523648638 371786 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: and it's exactly because it's newfangled nonsense that I want to use words for them, rather than (like some plain text representations) reserve square brackets for such unimportant things as loyalty abilities < 1523648714 365482 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how would you represent the level boxes, like those on Joraga Treespeaker, in plain text? < 1523648747 684848 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should eventually check how scryfall's database represents them < 1523648760 342990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Possibly: Level 1-4 (1/2)--{T}: Add {GG}. < 1523648776 132897 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in parenthesis? that would be confusing < 1523648801 396175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you are correct < 1523648808 382803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use of parentheses is wrong here < 1523648809 738542 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how about Coralhelm Commander? that's even worse < 1523648843 148510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps just drop the parentheses < 1523648933 228577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, that is even worse now I saw < 1523648997 559174 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's Kargan Dragonlord too < 1523649075 48002 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 5 < 1523649075 480811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rules seem to use {LEVEL} to represent the level symbol < 1523649076 4180 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`5 is equivalent to repeating `` 5 times, then splitting the output into irc-sized pieces. defaults to "quote". See `1, `4 and `spam. Confusingly _not_ the obvious generalization of `2. < 1523649114 541211 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sport < 1523649115 406402 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sport divides its input into irc-sized pieces and displays the nth (default first). The pipe version of `1. See also spore. < 1523649123 191657 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spore < 1523649124 257894 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :spore stores its input in tmp/spout and displays the nth line (default first). For a version considering irc line lengths, see sport. See also `spam. < 1523649197 917483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also use {} to represent chapter symbols, but it becomes confusing if any card ever has ten chapters, so "Chapter I--" may be better < 1523649240 761162 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ten chapters? would that even fit on a silver-bordered card? < 1523649266 937895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it, but I don't know. Maybe if it is multiple same chapters it might? < 1523649508 964708 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1523649545 401681 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1523649557 546835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe on a artless card it might fit < 1523649616 116215 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely artless is unlikely, but you could have something with reduced quantity of art, like the Greater Morphling < 1523649616 346780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII representations of Magic: the Gathering cards is useful not only for stuff such as IRC and writing documents that are plain text files, but may also be used as input to programs that can render the cards. < 1523649648 509592 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or JMS) < 1523649683 969175 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1523649795 784843 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could fit a lot of chapters on the melded backside of two cards < 1523649861 912372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also used double square brackets to represent flavor text, and double angle brackets for notes that are not part of the card text or the flavor text. I also used "pseudotypes" to represent color indicators, and sometimes also to represent rarity. < 1523649920 238608 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in an overcomplicated card like Old Fogey or Blast from the Past < 1523650034 815597 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name transguild < 1523650035 303823 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transguild Courier \ 4 \ Artifact Creature -- Golem \ 3/3 \ [White/Blue/Black/Red/Green color indicator.] \ DIS-U \ \ Transguild Promenade \ Land \ Transguild Promenade enters the battlefield tapped. \ When Transguild Promenade enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you pay {1}. \ {T}: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. \ RTR-C, C13-C, C16-C, CMA-C < 1523650121 42419 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what? I was thinking of the first one, but that second one is surprising. I didn't know there was a Rupture Spire before Alara < 1523650139 548975 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in common too < 1523650142 213543 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did I not know that? < 1523650169 283868 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see! < 1523650177 600459 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not before Alara. it's in RTR < 1523650183 145018 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh, that explains it > 1523650199 402476 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DMC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54797&oldid=54451 5* 03DMC 5* (+67) 10 < 1523650609 35442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few of the .*rc files in my computer are used to run commands, such as .bashrc and .vimrc, but the rest of them aren't. I suppose, they still call them "run commands" though > 1523650690 931723 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NoRAL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54798&oldid=54528 5* 03DMC 5* (+1) 10/* The Instruction set */ < 1523650816 82682 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGIRL, dying... > 1523650985 562271 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitter14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54799&oldid=54690 5* 03DMC 5* (+106) 10/* Commands */ > 1523651247 782491 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DMC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54800&oldid=54797 5* 03DMC 5* (+7) 10 < 1523651397 48481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Also y[x[arr]], of course. But maybe that's less oddish. < 1523651426 429844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I would've expected the y and x labels be as in arr[y][x] instead of what you did.) < 1523652002 258315 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :arr[y][x] is the normal way to index a 2D array though < 1523652267 702370 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a46c74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1523652514 9626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes, that's what I meant. "x[arr][y]" doesn't match that. < 1523652604 631165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :arr[y][x] <=> y[arr][x] <=> x[y[arr]] vs. arr[x][y] <=> x[arr][y] <=> y[x[arr]]. < 1523652685 224875 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah > 1523653311 216406 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Thue14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54801&oldid=37097 5* 03DMC 5* (+167) 10 > 1523653335 704689 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Thue14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54802&oldid=54801 5* 03DMC 5* (+4) 10/* Linear Feedback Shift Register */ < 1523654187 321885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Fair enough < 1523654478 729943 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to do with Fossil so that in case of any timewarps you can cause it to regenerate it so that they are now in order (so that you can make diff/blame of them by time)? < 1523655223 383711 :wob_jonas!b03f188e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.142 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1523655245 830057 :Graypup_zc!~mhjxyjj@2001:19f0:5:488b:5400:1ff:fe73:82c6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523655368 505899 :Graypup_zc!~mhjxyjj@2001:19f0:5:488b:5400:1ff:fe73:82c6 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1523655993 417408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's actually no reason for (arr + i) to be commutative, is there? < 1523656002 372381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more like a group action than like addition. < 1523656287 4682 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1523656518 851379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a way to add operator overloading into C and it requires that x[y] is the same as *(x+y) and that addition is always commutative < 1523657269 994740 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1523658302 901497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integer addition in C isn't always associative, right? < 1523658320 592238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :INT_MAX + 1 + (-1) < 1523658507 319162 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for undefined behavior < 1523658551 125814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course there's float addition. < 1523658573 790472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo what if required two's complement < 1523658602 506596 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least + should be commutative (for ints and for floats as well) < 1523658647 870578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a + b where a and b are the same type, sure. < 1523659033 976589 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1523659848 325605 :Scrooble!uid292726@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egarvepezpynlxqh JOIN :#esoteric < 1523660608 275384 :wob_jonas!b03f18c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1523660639 32338 :wob_jonas!b03f18c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: floating-point addition isn't actually commutative, but everyone (including compilers) pretend that it is, because it's essentially commutative < 1523660673 339451 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1523660693 81521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When is floating-point addition not commutative? < 1523660706 372810 :wob_jonas!b03f18c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing that breaks commutativity is that the representation of the NaN you get from adding two NaNs is undefined, and there are like three to five different ways it's actually computed depending on the cpu architecture and instruction, plus a few more if the compiler swaps the arguments < 1523660720 575447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1523660766 950352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: There's a proposal for C2x to require two's-complement. < 1523660791 909615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My ideas about how to improve C programming language also requires two's complement < 1523660805 887369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather there's a WG21 proposal for C++ whatever-number-it-is to require two's-complement, and they've asked WG14 to consider if they'd be okay with adopting the same rules. < 1523660828 494642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also thought there should be some way to make hygienic macros < 1523660899 796984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As well as many GNU extensions, such as zero-length arrays, empty structures, ?: with nothing in between, and a few others) < 1523660917 944337 :wob_jonas!b03f18c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the 387 way of copying the NaN argument with the higher mantissa, which is commutative, but only the x87 instructions do that, and even there I'm only sure on intel cpus as opposed to AMD; there's the x86 SSE/AVX way of copying the first argument; the MMIX way of copying the second argument; and the ARM way that I don't recall but seemed di < 1523660918 89507 :wob_jonas!b03f18c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stinct from these; < 1523660930 940879 :wob_jonas!b03f18c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and these are just the ones hardware do, software implementations could do something else. < 1523661008 763882 :wob_jonas!b03f18c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note in particular that the SSE method and the MMIX method are actually different for subtraction and division, you can't just swap the arguments to get one from the other. < 1523661975 818838 :wob_jonas!b03f18c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.193 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1523662464 16328 :Naergon!~Naergon@unaffiliated/naergon QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1523663373 429711 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1523663973 336979 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds