< 1515716085 199161 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1515716201 353421 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1515716325 298749 :iovoid!~iovoid@1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.rdns.hellomouse.cf JOIN :#esoteric < 1515716325 359066 :iovoid!~iovoid@1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.rdns.hellomouse.cf QUIT :Changing host < 1515716325 359141 :iovoid!~iovoid@unaffiliated/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1515717296 939801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1515717309 997535 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1515717758 679753 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515717930 779412 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number < 1515717954 425668 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515718843 159906 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number < 1515718869 362699 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515719337 850984 :S1R!~S1R@2a00:23c5:f86:9200:d81b:955f:d790:a0a3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515719363 823048 :S1R!~S1R@2a00:23c5:f86:9200:d81b:955f:d790:a0a3 QUIT :Client Quit < 1515719381 280043 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1515719613 710130 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong version number < 1515719638 765993 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515719818 872854 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number < 1515719844 358913 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515720020 503803 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1515720227 149044 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PL/MIX14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53802 5* 03B jonas 5* (+1065) 10Created page with "'''PL/MIX''' would have been a programming language that runs on the [[MIX (Knuth)|MIX]] computer. Donald Knuth would have described and implemented PL/MIX in The Art of Comp..." > 1515720257 954062 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53803&oldid=53659 5* 03B jonas 5* (+13) 10 < 1515720294 953624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hmm, it's fairly surprising that you can make a coherent esolang whose primary feature is that it wasn't written by Donald Knuth < 1515720399 294267 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515720406 481436 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think you can make it. < 1515720480 964528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, describe, at least < 1515720780 681019 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong version number < 1515720806 685234 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1515720912 43075 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515721007 25427 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1515721184 168259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would still want to see PL/MIX. < 1515721231 94906 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can also "describe" the ideal ancient C-like language that was the divine inspiration for prophets K&R, which got a bit distorted in their transcription. It would be rather similar to C, but the bitwise binary operators would probably have a higher precedence than the comparison operators. < 1515721242 552354 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That probably isn't the only difference. < 1515721283 1684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the compound assignment operators had the = first < 1515721286 166443 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in a =+ b < 1515721293 324832 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no way < 1515721294 870052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that in present C, that + would be a unary +) < 1515721302 828773 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be ambiguous < 1515721303 609186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it was changed due to being ambiguous < 1515721307 828981 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you often want to write =- < 1515721316 186924 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was =+ before < 1515721325 917222 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the ideal language probably uses += because =+ is ambiguous < 1515721326 67549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although as it's an abbreviation for a = a + b, abbreviating to =+ makes sense < 1515721331 138167 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, =- is ambiguous at least < 1515721339 706204 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the original pre-ansi C didn't have a monadic + < 1515721340 229957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, I thought you were just talking about pre-standardisation C < 1515721353 855236 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1515721373 723074 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider K&R prophets who didn't invent the language, but described the language God thought of < 1515721392 48280 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only they aren't perfect prophets, so they made some mistakes where they misunderstood the language God described to them in their prophetic visions < 1515721418 226047 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the precedence of bitwise vs comparison is one of those mistakes, but it's too late to change now < 1515721448 961219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is a pretty awkward language anyway < 1515721458 431835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's meant to be close to the processor except processors don't work like that nowadays < 1515721479 72432 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the goal of that language is more or less the same as the goal of C, that is, being a simple then-high-level language that is easy to compile to any computer of that time, but allows writing portable programs among them < 1515721489 67040 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, exactly < 1515721493 147233 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was close to processors at that time < 1515721514 86859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, modern CPUs aren't even close to Checkout (which is fairly close to modern /G/PUs) < 1515721515 52354 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was still quite close to 386 actually, in both 16-bit and 32-bit mode < 1515721527 806228 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's "Checkout"? < 1515721540 523296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang < 1515721546 568345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Checkout < 1515721562 59365 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that one < 1515721575 546287 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's supposed to be close to GPUs, not to CPUs < 1515721605 611646 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not close to CPUs by design < 1515721613 949987 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :different goal < 1515721615 464723 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well modern CPUs are more like Checkout than they are like C < 1515721618 512140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they aren't that close to either < 1515721628 529941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want to see a implementation of Checkout that can run on GPUs < 1515721675 475513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably compiles into both Cuda and OpenCL fairly directly < 1515721792 967255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Adding sine, cosine, and arctangent, and perhaps vector ops, and conditional set; do a few thing like ARB assembly language (although ARB assembly language is missing a arctangent function).) < 1515721825 758565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Checkout effectively has vector operations < 1515721849 663501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do a level 1 command inside a parloop < 1515721892 935256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's how you do it. But then if you need to combine with dot products? < 1515722021 852296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: level 1 has more than one word of memory (although it only has a few), there's enough space to do dot products there on most GPUs < 1515722052 588742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, say, you're trying to sum a vector whose elements were calculated in parallel, you use checkout/2 to shift the memory around and do a sort of binary tree sum < 1515722066 452539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/say, you're/say you're/ < 1515722079 813069 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sine, cosine, and arctangent really aren't low-level commands appropriate for a language like checkout, I think. they're more like something you could implement as various library functions. < 1515722112 698252 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also true for modern CPUs by the way, and there are lots of library implementations < 1515722116 223915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I wouldn't be surprised if modern GPUs had built-in trig lookups < 1515722117 279809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki article does say that it may include trigonometric functions and exponents, but not yet < 1515722142 79522 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they might have built-in ops that help, but not a full precise sine for every possible input I think < 1515722157 988557 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's my guess < 1515722165 682101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the built-in impl is probably something along the lines of fast inverse square root < 1515722172 148809 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably various library implementations of course < 1515722177 234918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's faster if you do it in hardware and have a lookup to help < 1515722203 859025 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but inverse square root (and even square root) is totally so much easier to compute than sine or arctangent < 1515722213 650633 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and faster < 1515722267 272419 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if you compute the inverse square root and square root with hardware help, which is what you do these days < 1515722335 818381 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno really, I don't do gpus < 1515722356 126808 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote b_jonas: hmm, it's fairly surprising that you can make a coherent esolang whose primary feature is that it wasn't written by Donald Knuth < 1515722358 991658 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1318) b_jonas: hmm, it's fairly surprising that you can make a coherent esolang whose primary feature is that it wasn't written by Donald Knuth < 1515722374 43541 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1515722397 548501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about GPU either, but Checkout look like it can be good. < 1515722482 598916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done programs in ARB assembly language, but found a few things I thought should have been done differently, such as, I would have thought using SSA would be better than what it currently does; I also thought it was missing a arctangent function. < 1515722550 650323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also there is no integer mode; due to this, some things are complicated to implement properly.) < 1515722785 140998 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellonas < 1515723059 996470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I sort-of want to make an esolang whose purpose is to be vaporware < 1515723077 315148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a logo, grand claims about what it does, lots of documentation about governance and coding style and the like < 1515723081 666842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no actual specification or implementation < 1515723120 916478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great thing about this language is that as soon as anyone comes up with the concept of it, it by definition exists, because if it's ever completed it's completed and if it isn't completed it's vaporware, thus fulfils its own definition < 1515723131 299538 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515723138 459264 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohejly < 1515723152 826286 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsœirjan! < 1515723166 377545 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently in a familiar jazz tune < 1515723171 70625 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1515723235 693532 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1515723258 224911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I just played the BF Derivatives Game for the first time in years, and scored only 2 (which is a very good score) < 1515723278 56008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the average quality of the wiki is improving :-D < 1515723296 585216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PPCG even complained that we didn't have enough BF substitutions, although admittedly they were just looking for easy adds to the polyglot) < 1515723297 595426 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the PPCG people are helping < 1515723305 75587 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1515723326 888921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see that Ursala got added? < 1515723331 335616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO the polyglot is now redeemed < 1515723347 289567 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1515723351 73575 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i did < 1515723352 63159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the current Ursala docs make it fairly clear that the author has come to terms with the fact that it's actually an esolang < 1515723361 995120 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i upvote nearly every addition to that one. < 1515723384 307799 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ursala an esolang or not. < 1515723387 671427 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1515723393 853940 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes. < 1515723439 374619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it was originally a borderline case but I think the author has finally admitted it's an esolang < 1515723454 379897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even originally it was described as being very experimental syntax-wise < 1515723525 790871 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoerjan, thais523. < 1515723580 855399 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like über-compressed golfing imho. < 1515723588 104644 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybwoily < 1515723650 587325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's like a cross between two languages < 1515723660 810651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pointer language, which looks like golflangs but is actually much more inefficient than that < 1515723670 275021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a more general language around it, which looks more like perl 6 < 1515723720 429227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Experimental and esoteric are pretty orthogonal, aren't they? < 1515723737 570905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so? < 1515723744 66795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing experimental languages is my day job < 1515723757 183027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I often try to make them as non-eso as possible to not scare people off < 1515723768 554776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my esoprogramming skills are helpful in actually writing programs in the languages I create < 1515723778 469555 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloochaf. I would've thought they're p. much parallel, no? < 1515724987 760713 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( general position ) < 1515725240 935737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, a challenge I've been thinking a lot about recently: design an esolang so that the size of programs in the language, plus the size of the interpreter, is in general as small as possible < 1515725272 780008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interpreter in what language? < 1515725276 710568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is intended for programs that are fairly large on modern systems as typical executables, in the hundreds of megabytes range < 1515725294 258768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: arbitrary languages, i.e. the interpreter is small compared to the size of the programs and easy to port < 1515725303 165214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely various dialects of machine code though < 1515725792 136940 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: FORMERLY CHICKEN < 1515725959 486317 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1515725986 547028 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515727086 276238 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1515727220 644990 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515728318 368585 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@unaffiliated/bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1515728332 317407 :ATMunn!ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1515728440 782357 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@unaffiliated/bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1515728476 985319 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1515728528 549805 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515728531 319761 :ATMunn!ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn JOIN :#esoteric < 1515729713 126351 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hakatashi1: whoops i've forgotten to unban you < 1515729718 462990 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1515729733 993882 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :hakatashi!*@*$#fix_your_connection < 1515729734 333362 :hakatashi1!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1515729746 784888 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very promising. < 1515729752 310354 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1515729754 632299 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515729768 758470 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. < 1515730268 938541 :n3tx!~netx@x55b53c72.dyn.telefonica.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1515730280 118862 :n3tx!~netx@x55b53c72.dyn.telefonica.de PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1515732741 506227 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515733040 497932 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1515734081 785172 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:472:c5bf:1fe2:cd5d:91db QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1515734870 876221 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:472:c5b6:682e:678c:3ffa JOIN :#esoteric < 1515735027 710086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1515736004 814889 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515737429 451728 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that this is a thing < 1515737432 85346 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :📈 < 1515737443 753342 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :,unidecode 📈 < 1515737455 181620 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww no bot? < 1515737457 655009 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :C < 1515737484 388725 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'unidecode 📈 < 1515737491 258681 :propumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515737494 561700 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 📈 < 1515737495 436395 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1515737496 686478 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F4C8 CHART WITH UPWARDS TREND] < 1515739161 204479 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1515740231 369860 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( ah the bitcoin symbol ) < 1515740430 341723 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode CHART < 1515740431 629904 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4B9 CHART WITH UPWARDS TREND AND YEN SIGN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 92 b9 UTF-16BE: d83ddcb9 Decimal: 💹 \ 💹 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F4C8 CHART WITH UPWARDS TREND \ UTF-8: f0 9f 93 88 UTF-16BE: d83ddcc8 Decimal: 📈 \ 📈 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+1F4C9 < 1515740452 216890 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i see no yen < 1515740493 697993 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unicode CHART | grep CHART < 1515740495 100660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F4B9 CHART WITH UPWARDS TREND AND YEN SIGN \ U+1F4C8 CHART WITH UPWARDS TREND \ U+1F4C9 CHART WITH DOWNWARDS TREND \ U+1F4CA BAR CHART \ U+1F5E0 STOCK CHART < 1515740586 505005 :garit!~garit@94.197.121.78.threembb.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1515740586 563082 :garit!~garit@94.197.121.78.threembb.co.uk QUIT :Changing host < 1515740586 563146 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit JOIN :#esoteric < 1515742758 17253 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515743042 12870 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1515746185 23319 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you live close enough to Knuth can you ask him about PL/MIX and XMIX? < 1515746338 726171 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1515746344 643605 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just tell him you're correcting a mistake in the book < 1515746459 881003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why don't you send him mail? < 1515746496 893524 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :However if you aren't careful he'll write another book about it < 1515746588 218401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I tried once and have not received a reply for several years. (But I know his secretary received it because the man who delivered it said so.) < 1515746618 419646 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1515746972 851467 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1515747643 395911 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1515748171 725955 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515748249 779918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got responses to emails via his secretary < 1515748473 633999 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1515748773 509884 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515748844 377700 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1515748880 974682 :impomatic!~digital_w@host109-149-154-234.range109-149.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1515748977 128615 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Symbolic Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53804&oldid=47226 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+104) 10Some additions and corrections > 1515749592 16739 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Two14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53805&oldid=40308 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+49) 10Add categories < 1515749964 150823 :wob_jonas!b03f18c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.201 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1515750878 647803 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1515751550 672640 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515752185 497466 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1515752542 696612 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1515752767 900533 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1515753805 459074 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1515753949 525505 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515754460 494354 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1515754571 677107 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515754985 636203 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1515755467 406750 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515755729 263068 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1515755841 323964 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1515756881 316420 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515757798 380626 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515758133 668526 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1515758158 349308 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515758294 666687 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if Ursala turned out to be an esolang, then should the wiki get a page on it? < 1515758565 370330 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1515758958 369370 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1515758958 581131 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 121200Z 15015KT 8SM -RA SCT040 BKN075 OVC100 07/06 A2972 RMK SC4AC2AC2 SLP068 < 1515759243 871169 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I have replaced http://downthetypehole.de/paste/So5kdG0C by http://downthetypehole.de/paste/nokKZ5De which even has some suggestive comments that are readable :) < 1515759329 836646 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-ello! < 1515759342 537028 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comments! readability! ^^ < 1515759769 678958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously we have to be careful, or else we'll go on the slippery slope and add an entry for every programming language because someone considers it esoteric. It would start with APL-likes and perl, then prolog, cobol, php, awk, bash, haskell, common lisp, and eventually we'd get to even the saner languages like java and C and fortran. < 1515759889 959531 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Category: Nonesoteric ) < 1515760132 343161 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :php is esoteric? D: < 1515760142 889092 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: DRIVEN CHICKEN < 1515760231 926522 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily arguably, PHP started out as esoteric, then it became mainstream, and then it became a programming language < 1515760231 986950 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1515760690 491843 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1515760906 299995 :u1!~u1@93.190.204.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515761241 789368 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hehe < 1515761289 672110 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas perl started out as esoteric, then it became mainstream, but it never became a programming language < 1515761389 690401 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515761460 713388 :propumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1515761464 487991 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515762334 957525 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: reboot < 1515762555 549868 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1515762815 314484 :garit!~garit@94.197.120.253.threembb.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1515762815 403597 :garit!~garit@94.197.120.253.threembb.co.uk QUIT :Changing host < 1515762815 420931 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit JOIN :#esoteric < 1515762969 882870 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1515763433 226437 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo wisdom/procra* < 1515763434 368017 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/procrasti wisdom/procrastination < 1515763438 231982 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? procrasti < 1515763439 311899 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Procrasti were an ancient people whose nation would have been a great empire if they'd ever got around to it. < 1515763441 372369 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? procrastination < 1515763442 366000 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Procrastination is destined to rule the world... right after watching this last funny cat clip on youtube. < 1515763480 741123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"New Year's Resolution: do all my procrastination right now — don't keep putting it off." -- John Baez at http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/diary/january_2018.html < 1515765630 445254 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515767279 202425 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/make-love -- ah yes. a comic about the openssl changes that aren't source-compatible and retroactively introduce bugs in existing applications unless the maintainer very carefully re-reads the entire fucking manual at the major version bump. if you don't want to re-read it, you can never upgrade the major version of openssl, but the old version isn't maintained anymore. < 1515767638 528603 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/rivals-ixalan-update-bulletin-2018-01-11 M:tG, Rivals of Ixalan Update Bulletin < 1515769715 930103 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1515773248 285331 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1515774729 317706 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515775045 901407 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::ca:e001 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1515775046 561233 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyfquwttwwdqfhqo QUIT :*.net *.split < 1515775059 202912 :prooftechnique!~prooftech@185.14.184.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515775086 111247 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zgnraqkicqyyjkbj JOIN :#esoteric < 1515776755 337436 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1515777569 671487 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515779076 345815 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1515779656 10176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515780665 293193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:1061:fc6d:8307:32a2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515780665 402774 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:1061:fc6d:8307:32a2 QUIT :Changing host < 1515780665 402795 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1515781652 4958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1515781662 13198 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515781881 297012 :augur!~augur@2600:380:8664:62d4:e1e8:bf6c:39a3:666a JOIN :#esoteric < 1515782066 401526 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: moving servers < 1515782595 188754 :jix!~jix@jix.omnomnom.pizza JOIN :#esoteric < 1515783411 481918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515783998 267090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1515784040 625346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515784577 325609 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1515784624 363207 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1515784750 339773 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515784908 634622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1515784951 663735 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1515785397 670781 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1515785471 320390 :arrveyyi!~arrveyyi@x5ce680a8.dyn.telefonica.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1515785839 602649 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1515785865 670608 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515785948 657022 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515788398 269152 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon < 1515788398 327473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is necessary for me to establish a winner image. Therefore, I have to beat somebody. < 1515789042 713024 :u1__!~u1@93.190.204.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515789237 148830 :u1!~u1@93.190.204.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1515789407 660853 :u1__!~u1@93.190.204.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds > 1515789452 492038 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[073switchBF14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53806&oldid=40847 5* 03Mr Meems 5* (-1) 10Proofing < 1515791251 303789 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1515792509 297031 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1515793615 878019 :augur!~augur@2600:380:8664:62d4:e1e8:bf6c:39a3:666a QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1515796456 758487 :u1!~u1@93.190.204.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1515796793 105467 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1515797043 623016 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1515797446 73113 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1515797515 524588 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1515797714 493011 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1515798420 935516 :arrveyyi!~arrveyyi@x5ce680a8.dyn.telefonica.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1515798934 47756 :u1!~u1@93.190.204.106 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1515799188 372712 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1515800507 493531 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1515801442 794366 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsœirjan! < 1515801447 335775 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1515801447 353341 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 11h 26m 55s ago: arguably, PHP started out as esoteric, then it became mainstream, and then it became a programming language < 1515801484 531739 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric