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Try 'list' for all commands 01:41:04 -!- sparr has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 01:53:35 @massages-loud 01:53:35 You don't have any messages 02:12:25 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:33:38 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 02:36:37 -!- fungot has joined. 04:21:05 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:33:31 -!- tromp has joined. 04:38:09 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 04:46:54 -!- boily has quit (Quit: DISHEVELED CHICKEN). 04:51:10 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 04:51:33 -!- sleffy has joined. 05:17:38 -!- u1 has joined. 05:17:52 -!- u1 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:18:17 -!- u1 has joined. 05:26:57 -!- moony has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:38:43 -!- sparr_ has joined. 05:40:01 -!- sparr_ has changed nick to sparr. 05:40:09 -!- sparr has quit (Changing host). 05:40:09 -!- sparr has joined. 05:51:30 -!- tromp has joined. 05:56:17 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 06:17:46 -!- erkin has joined. 06:26:32 -!- tromp has joined. 06:31:31 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 07:21:41 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 07:33:50 -!- sleffy has joined. 07:38:50 -!- tromp has joined. 07:47:13 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 07:50:10 -!- u1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:15:47 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 08:16:45 -!- tromp has joined. 08:38:16 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 09:23:04 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:35:43 -!- tromp has joined. 10:24:53 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 11:54:30 -!- erkin has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:03:55 (Poor highschool math competition problem authors, the next prime after 2017 will be 2027.) 12:06:26 I guess it's esoteric enough, but it still wasn't meant for this channel :) 12:07:11 -!- atslash has joined. 12:11:57 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:12:53 -!- atslash has joined. 12:25:17 -!- atslash has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 12:32:24 -!- variable has joined. 12:48:40 Huh, FIDE rules are surprisingly murky around illegal moves. 12:56:58 (This is triggered by yesterday's incident in the Carlsen-Inarkiev game. By my reading of the rules, Carlsen made a legal move [since the rules say nothing about leaving your opponent's king in check, just your own].) 13:05:29 -!- variable has quit (Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero). 13:12:57 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:32:41 @metar EGLL 13:32:41 EGLL 301320Z AUTO 26020G30KT 9999 SCT032 14/08 Q0998 NOSIG 13:32:46 That's pretty ridiculous. 14:00:32 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 14:00:42 -!- erkin has joined. 14:08:59 @metar lowi 14:08:59 LOWI 301350Z 27012KT 9999 -RASN FEW004 SCT030 BKN055 01/M00 Q1012 R08/19//95 TEMPO 4000 RASN 14:09:06 normal. 14:10:07 (unpleasant though, it's quite wet.) 14:53:13 "elevated levels of demand for a revolution" 15:35:23 -!- sftp has quit (Excess Flood). 15:36:20 -!- sftp has joined. 15:40:13 -!- moony has joined. 16:16:57 -!- boily has joined. 16:18:07 @metar CYQB 16:18:07 CYQB 301600Z 22009KT 30SM FEW015 OVC150 M21/M26 A3002 RMK CF1AS7 SLP177 16:25:47 "Our species, homo sapiens sapiens, is about 300,000 years old. Now it used to be 200,000 years old but it grew an extra 100,000 years in the last year because of new archeaological discoveries." 16:28:14 int-e: What is the FEN position where that happened? 16:30:41 int-ello, hezzo38. 16:30:43 what's a FEN? 16:31:25 *blindly copies* from 1r2r3/1R3ppp/1k6/1B1n4/8/2P2P2/2K3PP/1R6 b - - 0 27 the next moves were 27...Ne3+ 28 . Kd3 16:31:47 OK thanks 16:32:22 https://chess24.com/en/read/news/riyadh-blitz-day-1-karjakin-is-back 16:37:00 They did not notice that 27...Ne3+ is leaving you in check, I suppose. 16:37:49 Also, if you want to convert FEN into a displayable ASCII diagram, one thing you can do is what I did: sed 's/8/44/g;s/7/43/g;s/6/33/g;s/5/32/g;s/4/22/g;s/3/21/g;s/2/11/g' | tr '1/' $'.\n' 16:38:22 zzo38: It's unclear. Black (!) tried to claim a win after Kd3 because supposedly it was an illegal move. 16:38:50 (This was a blitz game, so illegal moves are immediate losses.) 16:38:57 (if noticed and claimed) 16:39:53 Anyway, it'll be a feast for rule lawyers. 16:39:57 O, OK. Well, it seem to me that Kd3 is moving from an invalid position, so I don't know how it can be said to be legal or illegal? 16:41:04 You can check whether it fulfills all the requirements for a legal move in the FIDE laws of chess. 16:41:07 (But, I am not sure what the FIDE rules say about such cases) 16:41:46 And the most relevant rule here is 3.9: "3.9 The king is said to be 'in check' if it is attacked by one or more of the opponent's pieces, even if such pieces are constrained from moving to the square occupied by the king because they would then leave or place their own king in check. No piece can be moved that will either expose the king of the same colour to check or leave that king in check." 16:43:08 So basically, nothing in the definition of a legal move refers to the legality of the position before that move. 16:43:57 The king of the same colour is the moved piece itself, and it isn't in check, so rule 3.9 does not seem to make 28. Kd3 illegal. 16:44:17 Yeah, that's why I think it was a legal move. 16:44:40 But is there another rule that makes it illegal? 16:44:58 I don't think so. https://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html?id=171&view=article section 3 16:45:05 s/section/article/ 16:45:47 For example, it would have been different if W had captured the king. That's explicitly forbidden. 16:48:10 boily: FEN is Forsyth Edwards Notation. 16:49:36 Rule 3.10c says that a position is illegal if it cannot be reached by legal moves, but that does not say that the move is illegal. 16:51:56 you can even make up moves from an illegal position to another illegal position that are legal. (For example a rook move leading to ...rKr...) 16:52:53 (rKrn is a funny illegal mate in the middle of a board) 16:57:45 . o O ( `learn 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8 is an empty chess board in FEN notation. ) 16:58:14 does that work? 16:58:21 `learn 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8 is an empty chess board in FEN notation. 16:58:24 Learned '8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8': 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8 is an empty chess board in FEN notation. 16:58:31 HackEgo++ 16:58:56 `? 8/8 16:58:57 cat: 8/8: Is a directory 17:00:55 `slwd 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8//s/ notation// 17:00:56 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8//8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8 is an empty chess board in FEN. 17:06:28 "If we invented an AI that was like the human mind it would do the AI equivalent of sitting on the sofa munching popcorn and watching the Superbowl all day. It wouldn't be much use to us." 17:06:40 Sometimes you might want to use the name as an actual file too, and this way it doesn't work; such as, now "8/8" is a directory so you can't add an ordinary file of that name into the wisdom entries; one way to deal with such thing I suppose, would be that if it is a directory due to it contains other files, to create a file named ".DEFAULT" in that directory and then to use that. 17:07:37 * int-e is watching https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-9270-dude_you_broke_the_future 17:09:32 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 17:27:14 -!- fungot has joined. 17:30:04 zzo38: td... h? 17:30:15 * boily is confused by chess 17:33:50 zzo38: But sometimes you want a wisdom with a name like 8/8/.DEFAULT 17:41:54 shachaf: But doesn't it convert names to lowercase normally? 17:43:20 So it does 17:43:33 Strictly speaking it ought to check the uppercase name first, for consistency 17:53:01 -!- pikhq has joined. 18:00:33 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 18:01:11 boily: FWIW, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forsyth%E2%80%93Edwards_Notation shouldn't be that hard to find 18:02:07 -!- moony has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 18:03:59 -!- moony has joined. 18:05:31 int-e: densely packed infos, but clear. 18:16:36 -!- atslash has joined. 18:26:33 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:27:06 -!- atslash has joined. 19:02:57 -!- atslash has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:06:08 -!- atslash has joined. 19:11:10 -!- anarki1911 has joined. 19:20:05 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:20:43 -!- atslash has joined. 19:59:54 `5 w 20:00:01 1/2:www//WWW is an abbreviation that takes longer to pronounce properly than what it expands to. \ blu-ray//Blu-ray is the favorite storage format of Hooloovoos. \ ghoti//“Ghoti” is a very fishy spelling. \ nvd//nvd is what Taneb calls himself when he wants to feel professional. \ corium//Corium is the material that a nuclear reactor' 20:00:03 `n 20:00:04 2/2:s core dump is made of. 20:01:37 `dowg corium 20:01:44 7520:2016-04-23 learn Corium is the material that a nuclear reactor\'s core dump is made of. 20:02:09 That -̈ is like a tiny face. 20:04:33 -!- garit has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:08:40 my plan in choosing this nick is finally coming to fruition. 20:09:25 int◡e 20:09:43 int␣e 20:09:48 int␣̈e 20:12:22 -!- anarki1911 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:19:37 -!- pelegreno has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:19:39 -!- ais523 has joined. 20:20:11 -!- friendlyGoat has joined. 20:20:31 -!- friendlyGoat has quit (Client Quit). 20:21:26 -!- friendlyGoat has joined. 20:22:42 -!- friendlyGoat has quit (Client Quit). 20:24:09 -!- anarki1911 has joined. 20:24:40 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:25:53 -!- ais523 has joined. 20:26:05 -!- pelegreno has joined. 20:30:03 -!- sleffy has joined. 20:37:34 -!- pelegreno has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:38:49 -!- pelegreno has joined. 20:42:30 -!- garit has joined. 21:28:50 -!- variable has joined. 21:33:22 @metar CYUL 21:33:22 CYUL 302100Z 02007KT 10SM -SN SCT025 BKN050 OVC070 M18/M23 A2998 RMK SC4SC2AS2 SLP157 21:36:33 -!- variable has changed nick to constant. 21:42:13 -!- moony has changed nick to jacob4. 21:42:52 -!- jacob4 has changed nick to moony. 22:02:54 -!- sjj has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 22:15:24 <\oren\_> 4 cold sticks of butter, 4 cups flour, 1/4 cup cornstarch, 1 cup sugar, first cream butter then thorughly mix everything until dough is crumbly. pack dough into balls and flatten into cookies. bake 30 minutes, cool 5 minutes, bake 10 minutes, cool. 40 delicious cookies 22:19:03 <\oren\_> oh right. and oven temperature is 325 degrees F 22:19:28 `recipe 22:19:28 ​ 2 ts Salt \ 1 ts Baking powder \ 1 c Milk \ 3/4 c Rum of sugar \ 1 c Mayonnaise \ 1 ts Cinnamon \ 1 tb Lemon juice \ 2 tb Butter \ 2 Cloves \ 1/2 c Chopped onion \ 1/4 c Freshly chopped onion \ 2 tb Canola oil \ 1 ts Salt \ 1/4 ts Ground cumin \ 1 ts Salt \ 1 c All-purpose flour \ Crumbled beef, cut in chili \ -or beef and peel 22:19:43 Well, that's just too many ingredients. Let's try again. 22:19:46 `recipe 22:19:46 gar, then pour over the onion and \ saute the milk into a 3-quart shallow baking dish. Add sugar and a \ green sauce to the warmed crumbled from the stove. \ Bring to a boil and add it to the mixing bowl. Serve ready; or carrots the chili \ out of the strawberry completely chopped. Makes 6 cups of ham of the \ hot cake in the center. Pinchier 22:20:09 "Add sugar and a green sauce to the warmed crumbled from the stove." 22:27:08 <\oren\_> don't ask me why but baking is always measured in Degrees Eff 22:28:08 It's always in degrees C over here. 22:30:32 Most stoves and recipes I have seen the temperature is always Fahrenheit, although there are a few that use Celsius; also some instructions on boxes and some ovens will specify both Celsius and Fahrenheit. 22:31:53 I'm guessing CA probably shares the oven market with US. 22:33:44 -!- h0rsep0wer has joined. 22:33:51 -!- constant has quit (Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero). 22:35:27 -!- moony has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:38:03 -!- xkapastel has joined. 22:45:25 -!- moony has joined. 23:14:47 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying...). 23:22:10 -!- anarki1911 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:26:23 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 23:51:42 -!- sleffy has joined. 23:57:22 -!- fnodeuser has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds).