< 1513641755 459191 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1513642164 858664 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1513642536 155926 :wob_jonas!b03f1882@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aibg < 1513642537 315707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aibg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1513642541 524900 :wob_jonas!b03f1882@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1513642542 570024 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, Italian, the grace period, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths or tanebventions: foods. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1513642547 336436 :wob_jonas!b03f1882@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1513642548 354381 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, the reals, Lambek's lemma, Curry's paradox, Stone spaces, algebraic geometry, locales, and histograms. < 1513642550 426617 :wob_jonas!b03f1882@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: food < 1513642551 618640 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Culinary tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, weetoflakes, mushrooms, and cognac. < 1513642598 471510 :wob_jonas!b03f1882@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't curry's paradox in the food section? < 1513642677 743715 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513642938 117307 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513643524 420670 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, someone asked about a invention. Go answer it. < 1513643936 18362 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513643939 189758 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513644157 450200 :wob_jonas!b03f1882@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.130 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1513644628 179515 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513647658 869227 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1513649116 138160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513649313 477019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513649326 67238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513649407 776302 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513649546 53153 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1513650164 66078 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1513650248 363449 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1513650453 983195 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1513650689 343618 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513653605 83396 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513653725 706744 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513653791 366005 :sleffy!~sleffy@24.7.67.0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513654761 229765 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1513655002 378149 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@10-36-178-69.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513655002 465955 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@10-36-178-69.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513655585 955784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a existing program that will strip out pages from a DVI file that match pages from another file? If not, then I can write such program < 1513655734 965372 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1513655750 184533 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1513655755 743157 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@10-36-178-69.gci.net QUIT :Quit: HRII'FHALMA MNAHN'K'YARNAK NGAH NILGH'RI'BTHNKNYTH < 1513655856 133027 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know of no such utility. < 1513655871 61844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever wanted to have such a utility? < 1513655934 359353 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but I've wanted to play with dvi files before < 1513655974 182168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written a program to render DVI to PBM (for use with programs such as foo2zjs) < 1513656056 363640 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: depending on the specifics you may have better luck playing with pdf files < 1513656365 81026 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit JOIN :#esoteric < 1513657098 457718 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero < 1513657160 908107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there is such a program for PDF, I don't know. If there isn't one for DVI then I should write that program, I think, though. < 1513657769 692376 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513660132 919159 :Guest6549!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-39-166.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1513660159 920250 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-91-183.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513660216 763816 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1513661533 369494 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-118-215.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1513661535 900052 :Guest6549!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-39-166.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513663553 369357 :sleffy!~sleffy@24.7.67.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513665643 653469 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513666063 554904 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513666661 70682 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513666777 920281 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513666809 221233 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513666908 122485 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513667377 608915 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/null is full < 1513667407 367131 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1513667423 632497 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Client Quit < 1513667454 979200 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1513667471 73893 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Client Quit < 1513667504 806685 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513667516 156142 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1513667518 457621 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Client Quit < 1513668278 412342 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513668360 581205 :pelegreno!~cinch@45.55.10.220 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513668524 389487 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513668801 374902 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@10-36-178-69.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513669051 366467 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@10-36-178-69.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513670217 409953 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@10-36-178-69.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513671802 419621 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@10-36-178-69.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513672606 527278 :trn!jhj@prone.ws QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513673219 207339 :trn!jhj@prone.ws JOIN :#esoteric < 1513674840 531531 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513675018 845669 :trn!jhj@prone.ws QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513675114 330837 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcotmwoffiyz31.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1513675218 409264 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit JOIN :#esoteric < 1513675634 664236 :trn!jhj@prone.ws JOIN :#esoteric < 1513675828 364519 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcotmwoffiyz31.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1513676568 811161 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@unaffiliated/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1513676641 379729 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513676764 564047 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@10-36-178-69.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513676822 370799 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@69.178.36.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513678447 384477 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a168:7361:4580:a796 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513678674 463545 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1513678955 406897 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@69.178.36.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513679310 138306 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513679334 448405 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513679601 100187 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1513680149 923322 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1513680404 437037 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513680461 738891 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a168:7361:4580:a796 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513680506 395100 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@10-36-178-69.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513681810 461382 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, I don't think I wanted that. I have used the dviselect dviconcat dvitodvi programs (from the texlive distr) to separate specific pages from a dvi and append them to a new dvi file. < 1513681828 60130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for that, I gave the page numbers explicitly. > 1513682438 428911 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07AAEEEEEEEEEI14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53635 5* 03Jabutosama 5* (+5416) 10created the page < 1513682472 287041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then that will help with those things, at least. Still, at least the program I described is something I wanted, so if I write such program then at least I might use. < 1513682594 922164 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I think Knuth's cweb description of TeX specify the DVI format, so you might want to read that along with these programs. < 1513682612 715545 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you'd have to compare pages, and I don't think anyone's implemented that. < 1513682636 404182 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@10-36-178-69.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1513682641 722644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have implemented programs that read DVI format before, so I do know how it works. < 1513682715 990795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have some ideas about how to compare pages. < 1513683209 814497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, not quite all of the ideas yet.) < 1513683309 28218 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:​"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". < 1513707086 860285 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1513707123 481320 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513707123 592857 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom teeth < 1513707124 862002 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not wise. < 1513707135 376465 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513707272 818102 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86CCF3.versanet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1513708484 823661 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513708711 402926 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1513708747 390076 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513708946 387734 :hkgit03!~hkgit03@ip4d16feb8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1513709488 780839 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TinCan14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53636&oldid=21235 5* 03Dehodson 5* (+48) 10Add link to Try It Online > 1513709511 357671 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TinCan14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53637&oldid=53636 5* 03Dehodson 5* (+16) 10/* External resources */ < 1513709602 404829 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513709720 692737 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-90-31.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1513709733 120833 :Guest6549!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-244-53.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1513710002 622308 :PocketSpaghetti!68adc259@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.173.194.89 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513710062 598564 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I didn't expect QC and GG to ever come this close. "The voice". < 1513710165 223552 :Guest6549!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-245-185.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1513710237 715354 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-90-31.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513710363 107376 :PocketSpaghetti!68adc259@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.173.194.89 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1513710386 180319 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome PocketSpaghetti < 1513710387 368917 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PocketSpaghetti: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1513710533 239876 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:f10f:2ab5:3d3:29ec QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513710807 433550 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513710977 453536 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-174-212.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1513711029 97098 :Guest6549!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-245-185.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1513711711 672842 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trigak < 1513711712 770505 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trigak? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1513711757 796898 :PocketSpaghetti!68adc259@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.173.194.89 PART :#esoteric < 1513712310 639994 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86CCF3.versanet.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1513712904 434500 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1513712905 892280 :hkgit03!~hkgit03@ip4d16feb8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1513713050 83803 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uszylojwveqscrce JOIN :#esoteric < 1513713159 296703 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513714024 22585 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1513714549 485578 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513714916 764462 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@unaffiliated/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1513715137 385506 :tromp!~tromp@217.103.3.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513715477 240990 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513715846 315700 :tromp!~tromp@217.103.3.94 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513716682 403041 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513716703 78196 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ping < 1513716843 224530 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1513716874 97643 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513717033 636789 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has bought his traditional nutella balls for christmas < 1513717078 11272 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :May I have a stupid question? < 1513717085 148732 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I already had one. Ok. < 1513717140 767255 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may have another one if you must < 1513717144 43778 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nutella < 1513717145 46661 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nutella? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1513717216 192000 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn nutella//Nutella is a nutty substance. Taneb invented it for use in his automatic squirrel feeders. < 1513717218 219100 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'nutella//nutella': nutella//Nutella is a nutty substance. Taneb invented it for use in his automatic squirrel feeders. < 1513717252 312155 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: food//mushrooms//mushrooms, nutella/ < 1513717253 166282 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `m' < 1513717262 618367 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: food//s/mushrooms//mushrooms, nutella/ < 1513717263 454153 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 15: unknown option to `s' < 1513717271 377323 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1513717277 461215 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: food//s/mushrooms/mushrooms, nutella/ < 1513717279 333447 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventions: food//Culinary tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, weetoflakes, mushrooms, nutella, and cognac. < 1513717294 266466 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mind is going, i can feel it. < 1513717324 111250 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@x1-6-b8-d9-4d-67-1b-b5.cpe.webspeed.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1513717325 464365 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@x1-6-b8-d9-4d-67-1b-b5.cpe.webspeed.dk QUIT :Client Quit < 1513717381 425087 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm a dane < 1513717391 370225 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :critically stoned, by the looks of it < 1513717466 193682 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, cryptography stuff, I want to understand in theory how to choose what size of hash function. Simplest case: if I compute 2**n hashes (even of inputs an adversary chooses), and want less than 2**-s probability that an attacker can compute a preimage of any of them, and the attacker can compute 2**T hash values on each of 2**P parallel processors < 1513717466 282000 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :, then I need a hash output of at least T+P+n+s bits, right? < 1513717508 6515 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sidles away < 1513717543 503356 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if instead, I want to make sure that the attacker can't find a collision in the hash on arbitrary data he supplies, then instead I need at least 2*T+2*P+s bits, right? < 1513717644 228768 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if the attacker has a really good quantum computer that can also compute 2**T hash values on each of 2**P parallel processors, then for a preimage attack, I need a hash output of at least 2*T+P+n+s bits, right? < 1513717666 721710 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( find the outlier http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/puzzles.jpg ) < 1513717726 313441 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the question is, how many bits do I need to avoid a collision against an adversary with a good quantum computer? It must be between 3*T+P+s and 3*T+3*P+s, but what exactly is the factor of the P? < 1513717766 85591 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the size 4 snake cube (I guess that's what it is) on the left hand side. that's not a permutation puzzle. < 1513717777 814871 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's a snake one < 1513717796 638286 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one that I've only solved once, actually... with the help of a computer program < 1513717817 512209 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could say that I haven't solved it :) < 1513717819 586878 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's almost all big cubes by the way, strange. don't you have more copies of smaller sizes? < 1513717851 278750 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513717883 357364 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, maybe not almost all big cubes < 1513717884 903837 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guess I have two more 3x3x3 cubes around, but not on that shelf < 1513717896 712024 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does have two 3x3x3, and two megaminx < 1513717900 790664 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I skipped size 7 < 1513717901 478930 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should buy some more cubes too < 1513717909 719803 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :small cubes < 1513717929 818109 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And going above 8 is probably not going to be interesting to me. < 1513717934 423470 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should buy a better 3x3x3 or two, and a 2x2x2 probably < 1513717972 220855 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't even care much about the 5x5x5, but I know that some people like bigger cubes < 1513717991 867221 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :solving centers is kind of fun < 1513718028 483604 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, my problem with cubes is that there's so little decent written material about it. Apparently everyone only makes useless video tutorials on youtube. I'd like proper written explanations about what people do. < 1513718039 852414 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, descriptions of various methods. < 1513718069 54663 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all intuitive ;-) < 1513718070 67560 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fast computers have ruined the cube. < 1513718397 764769 :Guest6549!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-112-31.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1513718433 509893 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-174-212.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513718645 397745 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513718702 369237 :tromp!~tromp@217.103.3.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513718912 341963 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: The reason that there are only few descriptions may well be that to a large extent the methods for the 4x4x4 cube generalize to arbitrary sizes. < 1513718957 572635 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, but there are already too few descriptions for the 4x4x4 < 1513718965 886390 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to learn the 4x4x4, and it's for that that I don't find enough descriptions < 1513719170 419145 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the written descriptions, my only problem is that this stupid English-based FB LR UD notation got spread. Even if you insist on English, all consonants like NF LR TB would work better, but I'm partial to the Hungarian ST NK FL. < 1513719323 256619 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But even this way, a written description is better than those stupid video tutorials. < 1513719664 36191 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/4-solution.html looks okay for a start. < 1513719708 366799 :tromp!~tromp@217.103.3.94 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513719724 401034 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513719750 53404 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e thanks I'll look at it < 1513719838 348233 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I think the first two steps, centers and edges, are intuitive enough... fixing the parity problems in the last step is what requires additional algorithms. (And I've noticed in videos that top speedcubers seem to do something a bit different there, but I haven't figured out their trick.) < 1513719912 147933 :ilbelkyr!ilbelkyr@freenode/staff/atheme.ilbelkyr PART :#esoteric < 1513720373 142974 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, if you want to fix the 2 bits of parity in the end, then I do know more or less how to do the centers, although I'm doing them with a somewhat slow algorithm and might want a faster one. < 1513720413 610568 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I would like to know a better way to pair the edges, and at least good ways to fix both parities, possibly also ways to keep the parity from earlier < 1513720463 770347 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513720485 50263 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513720743 856029 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fixing the edge flip the moment I finish the first two layers of the 3x3x3 cube. < 1513720808 620216 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway I'm not really aiming to be fast... and if I were I would probably be working on the 3x3x3 last layer. < 1513721021 50618 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513721027 126252 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that sounds like a reasonable strategy. how about the permutation? < 1513721087 100660 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1513721255 665087 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513721349 492857 :hkgit03!~hkgit03@ip4d16feb8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1513721421 887021 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas Swapping edges? I do that last, I don't know how to get any advantage out of doing it earlier. < 1513721421 933564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1513721439 328086 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513721512 291605 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great timing. < 1513721537 993973 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: (lambdabot has a message for you) < 1513721566 372687 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I crashed my computer < 1513721568 173593 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1513721669 455225 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the point is that miraculously, the combination I have for flipping an edge, if one turns half of the cube instead of just the inner slices, only messes up the top layer; trying the same "optimization" for the swap of two opposite edges would mess up edges and centers on the sides. < 1513721740 683332 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm also bad at spotting the parity mismatch in the piece permutations, while spotting an extra flipped edge is trivial. < 1513721759 478997 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the last layer) < 1513721905 224435 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah < 1513722037 245761 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so at what stage do you fix the 3x3x3 permutation, and if you have to fix it, how much do you have to redo? < 1513722102 148497 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what you mean by 3x3x3 permutation < 1513722176 96069 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1513722203 106860 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I take it you're solving a 4x4x4 this way: first solve all centers, then pair each 12 pairs of edges, then start solving the cube as if it was a 3x3x3, with a 3x3x3 algorithm turning only faces. < 1513722210 294750 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have centers, edges, f2l, optional edge flip, last layer (slow), optional edge swap, so the piece permutation parity is fixed last < 1513722256 734243 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do that, there are two things that can go wrong: the edge flip parity of the 3x3x3 can be wrong, so you have to flip an edge, or the permutation parity of the 3x3x3 can be wrong, so you have to fix that. < 1513722296 400014 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. So the optional edge swap is the very last swap and it changes nothing else than the edge swap. Ok. < 1513722571 702947 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513722787 189320 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly realizes wob_jonas used the correct preposition with "remind" in an iwc forum message < 1513722800 698327 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513722821 788613 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, I learn slowly < 1513722827 724895 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513722874 813429 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, early start tomorrow, good night < 1513722914 912656 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hmm, I seem to always use "oh well" before saying "good night". Oh well, that can't be helped. :-P) < 1513723007 189812 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Oh well, he said, as he feel into it ) < 1513723016 356479 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fell < 1513723030 337650 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? muphry < 1513723031 572795 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :muphry? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1513723036 435539 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom muphry < 1513723037 690521 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​muphrys law//Mumphrie's Law says things will be misspelled at the worst possible moment. < 1513723074 744817 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513723090 432608 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513723151 504098 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/c/chesterton/gk/man_who_knew_too_much/chapter6.html hth < 1513723166 649012 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I read that last night) < 1513723537 368556 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1513723595 512194 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh wow, that's a very old web page (on the 4x4x4 description). that really proves that youtube ruined everything. < 1513723726 864403 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513724186 890409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513724462 471759 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1513724866 353259 :wob_jonas!b03f18f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so what I asked is at least not a trivial question => https://blog.cr.yp.to/20171017-collisions.html < 1513726113 653147 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:1426:998c:b44b:81fb QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1513727194 94495 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513727735 433730 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513727767 297433 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:1426:998c:b44b:81fb JOIN :#esoteric < 1513727814 365043 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric