< 1513382429 404656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflist < 1513382430 175801 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbflist: shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion b_jonas < 1513382757 726074 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513382994 384260 :sleffy!~sleffy@24.7.67.0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513383037 924765 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1513383038 164194 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 160000Z 01008KT 15SM BKN035 OVC050 M11/M14 A2983 RMK SC7SC1 SLP105 < 1513383047 127437 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's relatively warm! < 1513383058 640748 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's sushi in my mouth, so it's a nice Friday. < 1513383503 383395 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:f37d:c0fd:6d13:f502:2ab7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513383531 315984 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1513383850 66954 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcotmwoffiyz31.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1513383971 398404 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513384090 127854 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1513384289 37773 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1513384444 258143 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you must have sent all the cold wind our way. it's getting harder to predict how much coat i'll need on a given day. < 1513384477 313447 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the fam? < 1513384572 26262 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1513385038 64431 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still being schizophrened by the weather? < 1513385056 257515 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fam goes well, more snow at my parents' place. < 1513385069 858802 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the relativity on your end? < 1513386100 497138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513386628 622889 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as always < 1513386672 874694 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you desire writing code recreationally at all these days? < 1513386685 789457 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really :/ < 1513386721 222054 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm spending time and energy to bring Glorious ATDD into the heart of my unsuspecting coworkers. < 1513386882 820462 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1513387269 550426 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513387306 228735 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513387555 351160 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513387605 170565 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1513387947 391487 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also exploring Spring. very Java. much unesoteric. < 1513388075 311156 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... quite interesting the way it's organised. everything is magicked away and it works? < 1513388097 451720 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure I can trust all the myriads of plenties of endless annotations. < 1513388391 369026 :sleffy!~sleffy@24.7.67.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513389468 665789 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds boring < 1513389471 463047 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1513389499 229751 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you do much recreationally beyond eating and tile-shuffling? < 1513389745 383375 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513390563 416300 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fascinating! don't you get all fuzzy at the sight of JPA? < 1513390572 518542 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :design patterns? < 1513390583 148163 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enterprise software architecture! < 1513390608 433038 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also shuffle Magic decks and cook. < 1513391068 150136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was inventing Pokemon mahjong game, one thing is that in case of a exhausive draw if you have tenpai you may be able to earn a stone (including level stone and trade stone). Due to different stone may be more usable than the other stone, I can use what my brother has suggested, to arrange them in tiers, for example you can trade two tier 0 stones for a tier 1 stone. < 1513391104 335086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, alternatively, when you get a new stone, if you already have one you may upgrade that one instead if you meet the prerequisites for the new one. < 1513391887 929391 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: planning on seeing stair wares? < 1513391914 199088 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...??? < 1513392064 681767 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ishtar whirrs? < 1513392073 446007 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lisp jetty < 1513393055 452339 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513393063 200819 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused. it's supper effective!
< 1513393075 503631 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SONG CHICKEN < 1513393156 935142 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513393172 5260 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ay, wonderin' < 1513393184 708700 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any esolangs that experiment with the idea of uh < 1513393201 60883 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"getting" whatever variables from a function instead of the function returning those vars < 1513393212 19072 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a totally useless concept but it could be fun to mess around with < 1513393241 148753 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, although it is possible that some might work that way even if it isn't based on that idea. If there isn't, you could make one up, I suppose. < 1513394994 363010 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513396634 787648 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wright: never heard of such a thing. not even sure what it means to be honest? < 1513396956 126631 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, forgot to check back here! < 1513397012 201669 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's a simple and kind-of-weird idea, i'll just put down a few lines on hastebin to explain it < 1513397013 376467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wright: Well, there's always Prolog. < 1513397348 378743 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513397356 727794 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513397863 321059 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdviplwlqogyphvg JOIN :#esoteric < 1513397946 457818 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, got it: https://hastebin.com/zamuvoqewe.py < 1513397955 133826 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very underdeveloped idea and totally impractical but yknow < 1513397967 752230 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: see above :] < 1513397992 343805 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ..I looked at prolog in like 8th grade and it was too screwy for me to 'get' at the time < 1513398027 118163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog is good. < 1513398036 484761 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I should probably look at it again < 1513398049 179652 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does its whole system of doing things facilitate something like what I'm thinking of? < 1513398094 510527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can write, for example, append([1,2],[3,4],X) to make X be [1,2,3,4] < 1513398111 989745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can also write append([1,2],X,[1,2,3,4]) to make X be [3,4] < 1513398138 546724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or append(X,[3,4],[1,2,3,4]), of course. < 1513398164 377699 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well that's intriguing < 1513398227 89745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or append(X,X,[1,2,1,2]) or whatever < 1513398275 306776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog is the language that says "no" a lot. < 1513398306 783851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like in your Python example you can just put "return locals()" at the end of every function. < 1513398328 970244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then use func(5)['local_var'] and so on. < 1513398348 433788 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo good call < 1513398438 943965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MATLAB had some weird things going on with variable scope, though not like that. < 1513398447 937682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: someone who is good at relations please help me satisfy this. my family is dying < 1513398528 38773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was thinking of stuff like assignin('caller', 'foo', 123); < 1513398543 387494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which assigns a value into a variable of the calling function. < 1513398550 440108 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hopefully nobody's going to try making practical use of the concept (lol) but I actually hadn't realized, it really is just having every function return all of its locals < 1513398620 891186 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which in turn proves its total impracticality, esp if you've got some large function with a ton of local variables that really don't need to be passed around < 1513398624 904041 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's a neat idea < 1513398737 959182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://uk.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/assignin.html https://uk.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/evalin.html I like how the documentation doesn't even hint at that not necessarily being a great idea. It's even called "particularly useful". < 1513398752 745366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, 4:30am is probably not the time for this. < 1513398884 307555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Glad to hear that you can't evalin inside another evalin. < 1513398888 212076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time fizzie < 1513398888 353442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for fizzie is Sat Dec 16 04:34:48 2017 < 1513398895 103025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparentl it is the time for this hth < 1513398983 105542 :wright!49a9c047@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.169.192.71 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1513400219 497094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaScript and other program languages have objects that you can assign into, and even in C you can have a struct that you can assign into. A function defined inside of that one can also read/write its local variables (even after the outer function has returned); GNU C also has something similar (but cannot be used once the outer function is finished). < 1513400376 693106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By looking at those documentation, even MATLAB is having nested functions too, and can share variables too. < 1513401500 373954 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513403121 427628 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513403525 380425 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1513403668 329328 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:BFX14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53620 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+127) 10Created page with "Why do you care if they are signed or unsigned? --~~~~" < 1513405056 373218 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1513405517 812978 :Aparecido!~Aparecido@200-216-43-7.user.veloxzone.com.br QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513405541 89220 :Aparecido!~Aparecido@200-216-43-7.user.veloxzone.com.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1513405765 364681 :MDude!~MDude@67.234.79.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513406976 334618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally, Farbfeld Utilities now can read one more file format. > 1513407914 355388 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Lost14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53621&oldid=53320 5* 03Wheatwizard 5* (+22) 10Fixed two code blocks > 1513409290 186803 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Lost14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53622&oldid=53621 5* 03Wheatwizard 5* (+2489) 10Added a tutorial > 1513409570 516382 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Lost14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53623&oldid=53622 5* 03Wheatwizard 5* (+164) 10Added to Categories > 1513409754 426968 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Klein14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53624&oldid=52013 5* 03Wheatwizard 5* (+164) 10Added to categories > 1513409829 133723 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53625&oldid=53608 5* 03Wheatwizard 5* (+11) 10Added Lost > 1513410436 105145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Lost14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53626&oldid=53623 5* 03Wheatwizard 5* (+30) 10Added Nondeterministic < 1513410942 372744 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1513411134 197256 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513412814 155453 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdviplwlqogyphvg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1513413396 355042 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcotmwoffiyz31.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1513413928 332940 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcotmwoffiyz31.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513414903 471078 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513414994 922787 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513415008 948385 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513415268 339367 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1513415829 228050 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds > 1513417177 849022 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Wheatwizard14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53627 5* 03Wheatwizard 5* (+1160) 10Created page with "I'm WheatWizard, I'm primarily active on [https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/56656/ PPCG]. My favorite esolang is [[Brain-Flak]], and I help maintain its the [https://gi..." < 1513418859 850052 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@x1-6-b8-d9-4d-67-1b-b5.cpe.webspeed.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1513418980 924877 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1513419570 590195 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513420678 73571 :__20h__!~some_one@r-36.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1 < 1513421301 371703 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513421790 55873 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86CE61.versanet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1513424281 376425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric > 1513424290 427379 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53628&oldid=53625 5* 03Ais523 5* (+15) 10/* B */ +[[BuzzFizz]] < 1513424762 448840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513424836 194502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513425513 451117 :zarcade_droid!~arcade_dr@telg.xyz QUIT :Changing host < 1513425513 463079 :zarcade_droid!~arcade_dr@unaffiliated/arcade-droid/x-4286778 JOIN :#esoteric > 1513426040 5746 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BuzzFizz14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53629 5* 03Ais523 5* (+6090) 10new language! > 1513426067 414168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53630&oldid=53461 5* 03Ais523 5* (+14) 10+[[BuzzFizz]] < 1513426486 368490 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@x1-6-b8-d9-4d-67-1b-b5.cpe.webspeed.dk QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1513426521 614893 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Disan Count14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53631&oldid=53603 5* 03Ais523 5* (+1372) 10one example is still not going to prove TCness (if it's not an interpreter for a TC language); here's a counterexample, plus an elaboration on the general point < 1513426579 479815 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@x1-6-b8-d9-4d-67-1b-b5.cpe.webspeed.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1513426768 438517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anyone here aware of any other language with an if-if-else statement? < 1513426781 148766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the sort of thing that must surely have been invented before < 1513426812 204631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest I just added it to make writing FizzBuzz easier, because if you're going to optimize for popular problems you may as well make them look good > 1513426923 582980 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BuzzFizz14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53632&oldid=53629 5* 03Ais523 5* (-2) 10/* Computational class */ fix plural < 1513426923 742413 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@x1-6-b8-d9-4d-67-1b-b5.cpe.webspeed.dk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513426963 415157 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@83.88.251.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513426973 927478 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does Lisp's "cond" count? < 1513426977 91327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also people hardly ever make LBAs (although there was one just last month), and this fell into the class naturally < 1513426991 757194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: isn't that an if-else if-else? < 1513427004 633850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. if both guards are true it only runs the first branch < 1513427011 778918 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-91-183.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by if if else < 1513427014 684191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an if-if-else runs both the first two branches if both guards are true < 1513427025 305199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the third branch only if both are false < 1513427044 18512 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, no, I don't know such a thing < 1513427048 759029 :Slereah_!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-91-183.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems a bit superfluous? < 1513427054 604240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can think of it as the "FizzBuzz control structure"; first guard fizzes, second buzzes < 1513427090 36295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how useful it is outside writing fizzbuzz < 1513427265 251514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very useful in buzzfizz because you can't put two statements inside the same if guard < 1513427265 365983 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@83.88.251.147 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513427275 957546 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@x1-6-b8-d9-4d-67-1b-b5.cpe.webspeed.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1513427278 220362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you normally use an if-if-if-…-else with the same guard on each if < 1513427545 333495 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513427842 826487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1513428169 863029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I think I remember seeing a language with an "otherwise" statement that'd execute if none of the previous conditions matched, but would still run all the previous conditions. < 1513428169 949898 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1513428173 883216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Unfortunately I can't seem to find it; all the "otherwise"s I can find (SQL, XSLT) seem to have the conventional switch / if-elseif-else style. < 1513428173 883247 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1513428176 849780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Though arguably sed's s///-s///-t is an if-if-else. < 1513428176 896253 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1513428511 371977 :hkgit03!~hkgit03@ip4d16fea0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1513428575 770742 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@x1-6-b8-d9-4d-67-1b-b5.cpe.webspeed.dk QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513428824 650190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` seq 15 | sed -e 'g;s/^/x/;h;tx;:x;s/^\(xxx\)*$/Fizz/;G;s/\n\(xxxxx\)*$/Buzz/;Ty;s/[\nx]//g;p;d;:y;s/[^x]//g;s/xx/x/g' < 1513428825 507638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x \ xx \ Fizz \ xxxx \ Buzz \ Fizz \ xxxxxxx \ xxxxxxxx \ Fizz \ Buzz \ xxxxxxxxxxx \ Fizz \ xxxxxxxxxxxxx \ xxxxxxxxxxxxxx \ FizzBuzz < 1513428839 170689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 `` seq 15 | sed -e 'g;s/^/x/;h;tx;:x;s/^\(xxx\)*$/Fizz/;G;s/\n\(xxxxx\)*$/Buzz/;Ty;s/[\nx]//g;p;d;:y;s/[^x]//g;s/xx/x/g' < 1513428839 170718 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1513429291 404342 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513429501 838246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:1061:fc6d:8307:32a2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513429501 926247 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:1061:fc6d:8307:32a2 QUIT :Changing host < 1513429501 926291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1513429630 978739 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1513430207 397430 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@83.88.251.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513430731 143636 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86CE61.versanet.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1513431281 484818 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero < 1513435624 882473 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513435678 471207 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513436084 116353 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513436100 953895 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513436588 265987 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1513436908 326326 :LKoen!~LKoen@82.238.218.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513437674 472797 :wob_jonas!~a@176.63.24.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513437711 653237 :wob_jonas!~a@176.63.24.41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the next page links in the daily logs are broken (the previous page links do work) < 1513437875 367328 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1513437965 394318 :zseri!~zseri@94.134.206.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513437999 430347 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1513438473 400770 :wob_jonas!~a@176.63.24.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513438847 410296 :LKoen!~LKoen@82.238.218.67 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513438872 379730 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1513439115 713893 :zseri!~zseri@94.134.206.97 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1513439226 97291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is also the method used here: \newcount\-\let~\advance\day0\loop~\-1~\day1~\mit\ifnum\-=3\-0Fizz\fi\ifnum\fam=5Buzz\rm\fi\ifvmode\the\day\fi\endgraf\ifnum\day<`d\repeat\bye < 1513440036 146437 :ATMunn!ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should be more active in this channel
< 1513440176 466737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have something to write about, then to do so, please. < 1513441397 373998 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513442675 756074 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513442692 862404 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513444447 291853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need to have true net neutrality, meaning there can be no discrimination based on: protocol, address, port number, direction (incoming vs outgoing connections), file type, location, etc < 1513444495 688964 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513444536 317713 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513444589 206834 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi guys < 1513444597 23799 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513444652 859122 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513444730 362338 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to upgrade the OS on my home computer from debian 8 to debian 9 (stretch). If I disappear, then I broke my system somehow. < 1513444791 184667 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've checked my recovery options, I can boot and access the main file system from both (1) a tiny netinstaller image on the hard disk, and (2) an installer CD. So if I render my system temporarily unbootable, I can use those. < 1513444809 367092 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The easiest way to mess up an upgrade is to get a power outage at the wrong stage, I hear. < 1513444823 663363 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any parting words you want to tell me before I start the upgrade? You still have some time. < 1513444915 194460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long do you expect it to take? < 1513444921 69263 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I seriously don't understand how /etc/apt/sources.list works. It contains arcane incantations that I can't decode, and no docs explain it properly < 1513444958 583709 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I've no clue, it's been lots of years since I've done a dist-upgrade, and that was like three debian versions ago < 1513444986 709904 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess two hours for the downloads and installs itself, then days to fix everything that broke. < 1513445037 399500 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also six minutes to copy the new kernel to the boot partition and reboot < 1513445065 811010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently have nothing else I can think of right now < 1513445092 937894 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I should buy a new computer, but that's sort of a different matter. < 1513445107 706481 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except if I render the system unbootable then it will be harder to shop for a new computer. < 1513445340 698959 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I'm rebooting to single user mode now and then start the dist-upgrade < 1513445342 509318 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1513445347 73208 :wob_jonas!b03f194a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.74 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1513445568 369039 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1513445659 502941 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt-get dist-upgrade started. it's downloading packages now. < 1513445735 105922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can suggest a new MIME header which could be used on NNTP messages (and other MIME messages) to specify what resource (identified by URI) it is a comment to, if applicable. Almost any URI scheme is valid (some, such as "about" and "file", do not normally make sense; "file" may still be usable on local systems though) < 1513445786 375843 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513445804 479725 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1513445824 858717 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :download says "34%" < 1513445849 443081 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513445868 404865 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1513446081 938539 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :download complete. that was quick. now for the slow part, installing all the packages. < 1513446149 89753 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86CE61.versanet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1513446456 492564 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1513446588 126343 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1513446619 485298 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually upgrading the base packages now, like libc. < 1513446640 710901 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for the join spam by the way < 1513446702 973275 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installing systemd now < 1513446727 744511 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, not installing systemd < 1513446745 297434 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just handling triggers for systemd to upgrade configuration files or something < 1513446759 380239 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's installing libreoffice now < 1513446789 83187 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has a heuristic to install stuff the starts with "lib" first, which is why libreoffice comes so early < 1513447051 968355 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513447127 449524 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513447133 376829 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1513447201 821199 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's isntalling some kde and wayland stuff now < 1513447288 375429 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513447378 944385 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( waylaying X11 ) < 1513447465 773488 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm seeing some warnings scrolling by < 1513447775 798559 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like Wayland so much I think X is better (although, there are a few problem, I have written about how to fix them) < 1513447803 586592 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, X keeps being installed, it's just installing wayland so you can run wayland programs on X or something < 1513447843 227393 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :really I'm not sure how it works. there are thousands of packages and I don't recognize what most of them does. I've seen it installed octave, and magickwand < 1513447857 903973 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric : but there are lots of other packages that I don't know about < 1513447875 628924 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's installing texlive stuff, that's always large < 1513448317 418148 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513448704 391975 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still installing more and packages < 1513448761 221796 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1513448841 620714 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just installed a new version of gzip :-) < 1513448867 966817 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or probably just a new binary build of the same version < 1513448968 773057 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` dateu # are you here, hackego? < 1513448969 567478 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2017-12-16 18:28:40.740654000+00:00 < 1513449205 338826 :Aparecido!~Aparecido@200-216-43-7.user.veloxzone.com.br QUIT : < 1513449222 407463 :hkgit03!~hkgit03@ip4d16fea0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1513449248 445506 :Aquenaton!~Aparecido@200-216-43-7.user.veloxzone.com.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1513449451 930879 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll come back later when it's finished these installs. Then I'll install the kernel and check what it's telling me about remaining unsatisfied dependencies < 1513449656 406571 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it may have finished unpacking the packages, and is at the "Setting up" stage now < 1513449667 548030 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I might have to look for prompts < 1513449957 218578 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1513450104 358813 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1513450114 567464 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still setting up packages < 1513450378 602459 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, it's giving the interactive questions now < 1513450527 725485 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, only one interactive question, then continuing to set up packages < 1513450557 364654 :hkgit03!~hkgit03@77.22.254.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513450788 393329 :nc_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513452272 365518 :nc_jonas!~a@176.63.25.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513452281 873789 :nc_jonas!~a@176.63.25.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dist-upgrade command ended, now I'm installing the kernel then checking what errors it enocountered < 1513452651 327086 :nc_jonas!~a@176.63.25.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513452686 720605 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1513452703 343551 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main install is done, but I haven't rebooted yet. I'm doing cleanup stuff now. < 1513452728 766836 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing the obsolete packages, then let's see what the errors are it encounters with partly installed packages > 1513452748 659896 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BuzzFizz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53633&oldid=53632 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+36) 10/* Computational class */ Corrections (the original is wrong because \ can be used with constant second argument) < 1513452880 372740 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some error about acpid, but I think that will clear after I redo it with the new kernel < 1513453137 710173 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513453258 410292 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1513453285 347510 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1513453295 901007 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric : I rebooted to the new kernel, now I'm fixing everything the upgrade broke < 1513453308 761577 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least starting to, I'll encounter more later probably < 1513453397 333313 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, the acpid thing installed now < 1513453399 945561 :nc_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-25-74.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513453480 326954 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p. < 1513453617 82403 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :running in pyjamas < 1513453705 366826 :hkgit03!~hkgit03@77.22.254.160 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513454056 331432 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513454058 340421 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn rip//R.I.P. is short for "running in pyjamas". < 1513454060 655282 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'rip': R.I.P. is short for "running in pyjamas". < 1513454080 769749 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1513454131 123439 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp repro < 1513454132 764047 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zygohistomorphic prepromorphism:A zygohistomorphic prepromorphism is used when you really need both semi-mutual recursion and history and to repeatedly apply a natural transformation as you get deeper into the functor. < 1513454429 992742 :nc_jonas!~a@176.63.25.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513454456 124160 :nc_jonas!~a@176.63.25.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some problem with switching between X and console, it can end up in a wedged state when there's no screen or terminal or anything so I have to reboot < 1513454725 327485 :nc_jonas!~a@176.63.25.7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513454938 362081 :hkgit03!~hkgit03@ip4d16fea0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1513454969 75231 :augur!~augur@h-67-100-92-114.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1513455212 23931 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? r.i.p. < 1513455213 160218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p.? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1513455256 503000 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s rip wisdom/r.i.p. < 1513455258 533293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1513455286 171266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas Thanks for the report. Looks like I dropped the .html prefix when rejiggling some code. < 1513455286 217923 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1513455291 19107 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf NICK :]zoid[ < 1513455293 871889 :]zoid[!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf NICK :moony < 1513455325 553799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell wob_jonas s/prefix/suffix/ < 1513455325 600265 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1513455492 475163 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86CE61.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? r.i.p. < 1513455493 623282 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :R.I.P. is short for "running in pyjamas". < 1513455557 757792 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: symlink wisdoms might be a bit brittle if people edit... < 1513455581 881885 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1513455610 919078 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also there's an issue with `revert) < 1513455632 63276 :augur!~augur@h-67-100-92-114.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1513456084 601758 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@83.88.251.147 PART :#esoteric < 1513456140 425110 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `revert < 1513456141 805275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See . It is a builtin command so cannot be called from other commands. < 1513456181 2244 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1513456181 895088 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackego.esolangs.org/fshg/ < 1513456235 473283 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd `revert//s,http.*bot,https://hackego.esolangs.org, < 1513456237 446823 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`revert//`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See . It is a builtin command so cannot be called from other commands. < 1513456254 39819 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, does that still work < 1513456280 624222 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems so < 1513456295 272708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the hackego. domain is still pointing at the CaC host. < 1513456310 615806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We haven't discussed if HackEgo should move or not. < 1513456335 473779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given how, well, hacky it is, maybe that's a reasonable place. < 1513456340 698657 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: are you feeling more speedy now < 1513456382 226037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I repurposed the web server as http://experimental.esolangs.org/ so that, if I have some configuration changes or MediaWiki upgrades, I can deploy them there first. < 1513456402 410252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1513456405 258373 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1513456406 432505 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1638: 0.185876697 openat(AT_FDCWD,"/root/.emacs.d/init.elc",O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC,00) ERR#13 'Permission denied' < 1513456409 379683 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1513456410 876554 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong channel < 1513456465 520051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that looks like strace but the output format is slightly different < 1513456470 457023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's strace on non-Linux < 1513456486 777524 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :truss output < 1513456520 79882 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fancy < 1513456548 398699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Feels very professional and all, to not test in production. < 1513456814 994719 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well I for one am inclined to wait for the symlink to break < 1513456876 205234 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm canary wisdom/r.i.p. < 1513456878 225002 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1513456880 434194 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs
< 1513456894 844950 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod -r canary < 1513456896 740117 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1513456898 294637 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? r.i.p. < 1513456900 849225 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :R.I.P. is short for "running in pyjamas". < 1513456914 623877 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1513456922 832049 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's interesting. < 1513456932 864326 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that's how you break them < 1513456964 523264 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste wisdom/r.i.p. < 1513456966 525482 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackego.esolangs.org/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/r.i.p. < 1513457231 411170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best company name seen in the new Star Wars movie credits: "We Shoot Lasers Limited". (Mentioned for LIDAR services.) < 1513457608 626122 :Aquenaton!~Aparecido@200-216-43-7.user.veloxzone.com.br QUIT : < 1513457670 917653 :Aquenaton!~Aparecido@200-216-43-7.user.veloxzone.com.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1513457780 39646 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: lol < 1513457883 387346 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513458025 866639 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a puzzle: what does "0ab 0bc 0cd 0de 0ea aBb bCc cDd dEe eAa aAB bBC cCD dDE eEA 1BA 1CB 1DC 1ED 1AE" encode? < 1513458258 158956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like esolang code, but it's too symmetrical < 1513458389 284489 :zarcade_droid!~arcade_dr@unaffiliated/arcade-droid/x-4286778 NICK :arcade_droid < 1513458396 732559 :arcade_droid!~arcade_dr@unaffiliated/arcade-droid/x-4286778 NICK :^arcade_droid < 1513458452 907922 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I think I have messed this up, which would make the puzzle impossible. I'm trying to specify the corners of a dodecahedron. < 1513458645 368853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I think that's correct? assuming it is genuinely symmetrical < 1513458646 457471 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I got lucky, that appears to be correct. < 1513458678 186644 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was working from a wrong picture, so I had reason to be skeptical :) < 1513459004 657659 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/r.i.p. < 1513459006 736180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 3 Dec 16 20:40 wisdom/r.i.p. -> rip < 1513459010 398949 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1513459018 940233 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then < 1513459053 675768 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: maybe it's been fixed in hg, istr fizzie upgraded at one point. < 1513459088 370731 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513459102 684497 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, maybe. < 1513459247 23464 :augur!~augur@h-67-102-17-2.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1513459338 380832 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe that other bugfix for `revert also fixed that < 1513459376 471846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I fixed anything specifically for symlinks, but I did fix one or two other revert-related things. Who knows. It's a mystery. < 1513459378 435275 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget r.i.p. < 1513459380 377168 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove ‘wisdom/r.i.p.’: No such file or directory \ Forget what? < 1513459384 506002 :constant!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/null is full < 1513459388 915316 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wat < 1513459390 604094 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wat: not found < 1513459411 515 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? r.i.p. < 1513459413 731243 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p.? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1513459417 320918 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rip < 1513459419 879128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :R.I.P. is short for "running in pyjamas". < 1513459422 701276 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1513459423 804772 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: Permission denied: /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/canary < 1513459430 812565 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1513459434 793755 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1513459436 870454 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackego.esolangs.org/fshg/ < 1513459470 833268 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1513459490 260214 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gone, and the repository browser hasn't noticed < 1513459502 928883 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? r.i.p. < 1513459505 187573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p.? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1513459514 699442 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1513459525 53845 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1513459526 962612 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--w------- 1 5000 0 0 Dec 16 20:40 canary < 1513459531 241272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rejoice in pooches < 1513459541 797250 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod +r canary < 1513459543 463573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1513459576 998097 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the repository browser still sees nothing < 1513459579 498918 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1513459580 281167 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Dec 16 20:40 canary < 1513459584 945476 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1513459586 165509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1513459609 431594 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1513459610 551498 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1513459661 794595 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? r.i.p. < 1513459662 942532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :R.I.P. is short for "running in pyjamas". < 1513459670 844348 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/r.i.p. < 1513459671 713012 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 3 Dec 16 21:24 wisdom/r.i.p. -> rip < 1513459681 651154 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it got restored into a symlink < 1513459704 260717 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that particular bug is gone, but other things remain crazy hth < 1513459720 885925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, again with the weird modes. < 1513459743 842378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing "abort: Permission denied: /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/canary" is because of that. < 1513459747 778420 :augur_!~augur@h-67-102-17-2.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1513459749 151961 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1513459756 415961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that canary can be a lot of fun sometimes < 1513459784 720816 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget r.i.p. < 1513459786 432415 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1513459805 27393 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1513459806 153275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1513459812 682948 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? r.i.p. < 1513459813 777618 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :R.I.P. is short for "running in pyjamas". < 1513459820 488711 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l wisdom/r.i.p. < 1513459821 469023 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 3 Dec 16 21:29 wisdom/r.i.p. -> rip < 1513459827 548925 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. < 1513459837 817157 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it seems it behaves sanely when canary isn't broken < 1513459859 108271 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that showed up in the browser) < 1513459877 372357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any issue that messes the ability of "hg status -rumad" + remove all mentioned files + "hg up -C" to restore the working copy to exactly match the repository contents is likely to leave it in a weird state. < 1513459920 460247 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fwiw, other two reverts also showed up in the repo browser for me, even before you changed the canary permissions < 1513459929 195429 :augur!~augur@h-67-102-17-2.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1513459950 444317 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, but the command that removed r.i.p. initially did not < 1513459964 290056 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1513459969 956558 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahok < 1513459988 241891 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor did my attempts to put it back, before fixing canary < 1513460027 935636 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, presumably because the repository never noticed it was gone < 1513460133 509078 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1513460322 820021 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513460343 149731 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Client Quit < 1513460356 287868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1513460532 340871 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1513460735 780777 :augur_!~augur@h-67-102-17-2.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513460863 970480 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1513460879 361640 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513461100 427489 :augur!~augur@h-67-102-17-2.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1513461169 198140 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513461201 187823 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86CE61.versanet.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1513461698 376725 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1513462208 366224 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1513462987 341022 :augur!~augur@h-67-102-17-2.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1513463324 104265 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-caugvkosdirulrws JOIN :#esoteric < 1513463503 461990 :augur!~augur@h-67-102-17-2.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1513463866 656494 :Aquenaton!~Aparecido@200-216-43-7.user.veloxzone.com.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1513463910 782949 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that the B. in Benoit B. Mandelbrot stands for Benoit B. Mandelbrot ? < 1513463939 117807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't know that < 1513463956 910516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1513463956 957046 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf asked 1d 18h 37m 13s ago: Do you like KOI-8? < 1513463965 758438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I answered that question already < 1513464054 125182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1513464158 429207 :Aquenaton!~Aparecido@200-216-43-7.user.veloxzone.com.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit < 1513464282 68396 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1513464979 78399 :Aquenaton!~Aparecido@200-216-43-7.user.veloxzone.com.br QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1513465005 206598 :Aquenaton!~Aparecido@200-216-43-7.user.veloxzone.com.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1513465284 956650 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1513466381 728607 :augur!~augur@h-67-102-17-2.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1513466398 210227 :augur!~augur@h-67-102-17-2.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1513466420 370427 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-79-69.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1513466614 374419 :augur_!~augur@h-67-100-92-114.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1513466728 57439 :augur!~augur@h-67-102-17-2.snfc.ca.globalcapacity.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1513467255 763975 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you agree with ais523 that BuzzFizz is not LBA-complete? < 1513467272 118666 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot suss out the intuition < 1513467277 906661 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :LBA complete? < 1513467279 221951 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dumb
< 1513467324 1351 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear bounded automaton, apparently < 1513467349 912466 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1513467357 375316 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :those I've heard of < 1513468012 50971 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what happens on division by 0? < 1513468192 241774 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question. on previous languages, ais523 has included the disclaimer "anything not expressly described as accepted behavior is an error" or something to that effect. my best guess would be "it crashes the program" < 1513468583 166370 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 divides nothing else and is divided by everything. < 1513468595 93823 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the usual math answer. < 1513468618 623794 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a nice thing to be stated explicitly in this case < 1513468620 334554 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nvm < 1513468631 310711 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you understand the intuition for sub-LBA-completeness? < 1513468643 985307 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1513468762 704106 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that it's sufficient to supply the program with a binary string as a natural number, plus a constant value 2^(kn) to delimit the space.