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00:01:09 <moony> what the heck is a aubergie
00:01:42 <moony> oh
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01:01:08 <boily> bonsœøırjan.
01:01:30 <oerjan> god kveily.
01:02:12 <oerjan> argh is tunes not loading
01:02:38 <oerjan> . o O ( maybe something's happened that i'm not supposed to know )
01:03:26 <oerjan> @metar ENVA
01:03:26 <lambdabot> ENVA 060050Z 24011KT 9999 FEW012 BKN017 02/M01 Q1009 RMK WIND 670FT 26015KT
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01:07:57 <quintopia> bonne nuily
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01:10:41 <boily> bonnuitopia!
01:10:45 <boily> @metar CYUL
01:10:51 <boily> huh.
01:11:02 <boily> int-e: IEUAREGHIOERGHIGOHIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
01:11:02 <quintopia> here it is popup showers
01:11:07 <quintopia> annoying
01:11:23 <boily> `ysaclist (69)
01:11:24 <HackEgo> ysaclist (69): boily shachaf
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01:18:05 <boily> @metar CYUL
01:18:05 <lambdabot> CYUL 060100Z 15016KT 15SM -RA SCT045 OVC067 09/08 A2965 RMK SC3AC5 SLP043
01:18:31 <fizzie> oerjan: There was a new user who couldn't manage to get past the "introduce yourself" filter, is at least one thing that happened.
01:19:06 <fizzie> oerjan: (They tried twice, but on both occasions their introductions page edit attempted to remove an empty line, which isn't allowed.)
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01:26:12 <oerjan> it happens...
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01:33:14 <zzo38> Why doesn't the GURPS rules mention how many points a fear of left handed plumbers is worth? (It does mention such a fear, but doesn't tell you how many points)
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01:55:33 <zzo38> Are you going to add a {{#precomment}} command into the wiki to hide text that comes before this command? Mainly it is in case it is a comment introducer for some other programming language (such as C or JavaScript) that you want to not display, so that the program will still work if downloaded.
01:57:28 <zzo38> The other command to add would be {{#beginraw}} command, which causes it to stop parsing all further commands, treating the entire rest of the page as raw text, which is displayed as fix pitch preformatted text.
01:58:20 <zzo38> (While you can add a space in front, you might not want all of the lines to have a space.)
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02:51:49 <oerjan> `addquote <shachaf> int-e: Do you like this? <int-e> It depends on the context. In the context of "Do you like _?", I hate it.
02:51:51 <HackEgo> 1316) <shachaf> int-e: Do you like this? <int-e> It depends on the context. In the context of "Do you like _?", I hate it.
02:53:38 <shachaf> Clearly oerjan likes this
02:53:49 <oerjan> CLEARLY
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03:08:13 <quintopia> zzo38: the <nowiki> tag sounds a lot like your {{#beginraw}}. what is the difference?
03:08:31 <quintopia> i guess you'd have to do <nowiki><pre> to get preformatted text
03:16:16 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Underload]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53509&oldid=53499 * Oerjan * (+283) Rescue dead links
03:17:57 <oerjan> quintopia: please use the {{deadlink}} template so someone else can attempt to rescue links twh
03:18:17 <quintopia> kk
03:18:25 <quintopia> how
03:18:39 <oerjan> just put a {{deadlink}} after the link
03:18:53 <oerjan> alternatively, you can try to search on wayback yourself first
03:18:57 <quintopia> was that link that important?
03:19:28 <oerjan> well mostly the surrounding info in this case, since the link actually _was_ somewhere else on the page
03:20:12 <oerjan> (in a less convenient form.)
03:20:15 <quintopia> the surrounding info seemed very unimportant
03:22:03 <oerjan> it's traditional.
03:22:10 * oerjan grins evilly
03:22:24 <oerjan> (the argument that beats all reason)
03:24:20 <oerjan> ok, but "remove dead link" is the wrong reason for removing it (in particulr, making me do all the work to try to rescue it)
03:24:26 <oerjan> *+a
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03:51:25 <moony> We need to port brainfuck to the ethereum blockchain
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04:03:46 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Bauberqueue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53510&oldid=53507 * Quintopia * (+353) add quine
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04:08:21 <zzo38> quintopia: The difference is that there is no command to end it.
04:18:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Bauberqueue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53511&oldid=53510 * Quintopia * (-14) golf quine
04:20:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Aubergine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53512&oldid=53476 * Quintopia * (+17) influenced bauberqueue
04:20:44 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ResPlicate]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53513&oldid=52922 * Quintopia * (+15) influenced bauberqueue
04:22:29 <quintopia> zzo38: so that none of the other wiki formatting after it appears at all? no footer or anything? that doesn't seem good...
04:24:58 <zzo38> No, I don't mean that
04:25:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ResPlicate]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53514&oldid=53513 * Quintopia * (+3) paradigm
04:25:38 <zzo38> I mean that the rest of the text you have entered is raw and preformatted; only EOF marks the end of that, and then the wiki footer and stuff appears
04:32:34 <quintopia> oh i think <nowiki> does the same thing if you just omit the </nowiki> tag.
04:37:27 <zzo38> Maybe, but then what if the text you want includes the text "</nowiki>"? Then it won't work. Fossil Wiki supports stuff such as <verbatim-1> so that you can specify a number so that you can include whatever text you want. (Fossil also supports defining a wiki page as plain, so it supports no special commands at all.)
04:38:14 <quintopia> oh nice
04:48:51 <Sgeo_> https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.01815
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05:44:39 <oerjan> quintopia: i'm definitely also using .ul for underload files.
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06:36:17 <\oren\> 兩? hmm, those inner things are "enter" not "person"...
06:36:51 <\oren\> I'll have to be careful drawring them
06:43:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Bauberqueue]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53515&oldid=53511 * Quintopia * (-8) Actually, it's a true quine
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09:40:04 <b_jonas> zzo38: re a precommend command, instead of that, on http://perlmonks.org we have <code>...</code> pseudo-html tags to mark code, which has both the effect that it takes everything inside it literally, and that there's an easy way to download just the code from a node as plain text
09:41:25 <b_jonas> The drawback is that you can only put code encoded as cp1252 in it, because that's the native encoding the source code of nodes is written in, non-cp1252 characters have to be ampersand-encoded, but ampersands aren't special inside code tags.
09:42:50 <b_jonas> \oren\: "careful drawing them" => well yes, and you're a bit cramped for space, but it should still fit in your 16x16 grid I think
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09:52:25 <b_jonas> `slashlearn greater/A greater than sign instructs the shell to send the output of the command to a file. Not very mnemonic, but a grater is the closest thing to a file that ASCII has.
09:52:26 <HackEgo> Usage: `le/[/]rn <key>//<wisdom>
09:52:31 <b_jonas> `slashlearn greater//A greater than sign instructs the shell to send the output of the command to a file. Not very mnemonic, but a grater is the closest thing to a file that ASCII has.
09:52:33 <HackEgo> Learned 'greater': A greater than sign instructs the shell to send the output of the command to a file. Not very mnemonic, but a grater is the closest thing to a file that ASCII has.
09:53:04 <int-e> @tell boily int-e: IEUAREGHIOERGHIGOHIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! <-- please wait at least 5 minutes before panicking, because lambdabot takes a while to get here after rejoining, and it's set up to do that automatically.
09:53:04 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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10:15:15 <shachaf> happy independence day hth
10:22:02 <b_jonas> huh what?
10:29:23 <fizzie> 100 years of Finlandery.
10:32:28 <fizzie> They're lighting up a lot of places around the world with blue-white lights, but as far as I can tell nothing here in London. :/
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10:33:14 <fizzie> (San Francisco City Hall, though.)
10:45:01 <shachaf> Hmm, anywhere in Berkeley?
10:45:08 <shachaf> Lots of Finns here
10:48:05 <fizzie> Maybe not. I haven't found a proper exhaustive list, just two separate news articles.
10:49:38 <shachaf> I guess I'll be going to SF tomorrow.
10:50:32 <shachaf> I mean today.
10:59:59 <shachaf> @tell boily ptlist should remind you to turn on captions
10:59:59 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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11:00:14 <shachaf> @tell boily it's scow when you watch a whole pt and then realize you had captions off
11:00:14 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
11:06:00 <fizzie> "San Francisco, California, will see a Finnish flag flying over its City Hall on Wednesday and the building's facade illuminated blue and white from 4:15 PM local time until midnight." https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finlands_blue__white_around_the_world_for_centennial_celebrations/9961343
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11:46:47 <b_jonas> I see
11:47:08 <b_jonas> `? ptlist
11:47:09 <HackEgo> ptlist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
11:47:11 <b_jonas> what's that?
11:50:17 <boily> b_jellonas.
11:50:22 <boily> @massages-loud
11:50:22 <lambdabot> int-e said 1h 57m 18s ago: int-e: IEUAREGHIOERGHIGOHIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! <-- please wait at least 5 minutes before panicking, because lambdabot takes a while to get
11:50:23 <lambdabot> here after rejoining, and it's set up to do that automatically.
11:50:23 <lambdabot> shachaf said 50m 23s ago: ptlist should remind you to turn on captions
11:50:23 <lambdabot> shachaf said 50m 8s ago: it's scow when you watch a whole pt and then realize you had captions off
11:50:54 <boily> oh, that pt! tdh.
11:51:09 <boily> b_jonas: Primitive Technology.
11:51:30 <boily> @tell int-e int-ello. I like to recklessly holler ^^
11:51:30 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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12:12:39 <int-e> `dontaskdonttelllist
12:12:40 <HackEgo> dontaskdonttelllist: q​u​i​n​t​o​p​i​a​ m​y​n​a​m​e​ i​n​t​-​e​
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12:41:57 <fizzie> I keep getting spam with the subject line "Reverse-Engineering the ZTE ZXDSL 931WIIA Firmware" (because I once wrote a page about that), and every time for ten seconds or so I think it might be a non-spam email for once.
12:46:49 <int-e> good job, spammers, well done, keep up the good work
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14:52:44 <fizzie> Weird. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/master/gcc/po/fi.po has the translation "säiekohtaista muistia ei tueta tälle kohteelle" (thread-local storage not supported for this target) for 67 different messages, none of which have anything to do with TLS.
14:53:12 <b_jonas> fizzie: wow. report a bug.
14:55:13 <b_jonas> fizzie: also, I've had so many bad experiences with hungarian localized software that I simply don't use hungarian localization whenever possible
14:55:18 <fizzie> I haven't managed to coax any Finnish messages out of my GCC installation.
14:55:29 <fizzie> I was just checking these to see if they translated the 'long long long' joke.
14:56:19 <fizzie> Maybe I have to install 'gcc-7-locales' to get them.
14:56:30 <fizzie> Yep.
14:57:00 <b_jonas> I also try to avoid mirrors in Hungary by the way, and occasionally have to override these automatic geographic mirror choosers for that
14:58:46 <Taneb> What's the long long long joke?
15:01:20 <b_jonas> the whole "long long" thing is dangerous, because very old compilers just silently interpret it as "long", which isn't just a stupid interpretation in first place
15:01:42 <b_jonas> that syntax shouldn't have been used in first place
15:02:01 <b_jonas> nor "ll" as a modifier in printf for similar reasons
15:10:32 <fizzie> Taneb: If you try to use 'long long long' as a type, the error message is "‘long long long’ is too long for GCC".
15:10:47 <Taneb> Ah, I see!
15:11:15 <fizzie> (Or "”long long long” on liian pitkä GCC:lle", so yes, they did translate it, though it loses a bit in translation for not repeating "long".)
15:13:12 <b_jonas> do they have a custom message for any of "short long", "long short", "short short", "long char", "short wchar_t", "signed signed", "signed unsigned", "unsigned signed", "unsigned unsigned", "signed wchar_t", "unsigned wchar_t", "long bool", "signed bool", "unsigned bool" etc?
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15:14:05 <fizzie> Not as far as I know. Or, rather, they have messages, but they're very businesslike. "error: both ‘signed’ and ‘unsigned’ in declaration specifiers" and so on.
15:14:46 <b_jonas> fizzie: yeah, so no custom stuff
15:14:50 <fizzie> Also if you do 'long long long long x', you get "'long long long' is too long" twice, possibly due to error recovery.
15:15:42 <fizzie> For some reason, if I try some of those operations where they have the nonsense string in the fi.po file, it just uses the English text without a translation. Wonder what that's all about.
15:17:02 <b_jonas> fizzie: maybe that bug is newer than your gcc?
15:20:37 <fizzie> I guess that's possible. Or maybe they're somehow disabled, but I don't know how to read the file syntax. (Also the text "ehtolausekkeessa ei-lvalue-taulukko" (non-lvalue array in a conditional expression) appears for 22 unrelated messages, like "Enable loop distribution on trees." and "Enable loop vectorization on trees.")
15:22:27 <fizzie> github's GCC mirror can't show blame or log for the file (it's too long to show, and the commit history takes "too long to generate"), so I can't tell if it's a recent issue or not. Don't feel like cloning GCC. Maybe I'll come back to this later.
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16:18:40 <int-e> meh, hg...
16:19:50 <int-e> "hg remove -A", why not have that as an option for hg ci? (I've found -A but I only want the removal part.)
16:26:14 <zzo38> Do you have a example Fuun RNA program? I tried writing a program to interpret the Fuun DNA program in order to achieve the RNA, but it doesn't work after the first step, somehow.
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19:25:22 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Bauberqueue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53516&oldid=53515 * Quintopia * (-41) golf quine
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21:38:12 <wob_jonas> zzo38: a lot of people participated in that ICFP and many of them probably have put an interpreter available online, so you could use one of those.
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21:43:27 <wob_jonas> zzo38: sadly the websites of most old icfp contests are badly maintained, including http://save-endo.cs.uu.nl/ , so you'll have to find individual team's writeups elsewhere
21:43:40 <zzo38> But where is it?
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22:22:02 <wob_jonas> Is there a library structure generic that is just a structure made of a key and a value part, but comparing and hashing it looks only at the key part?
22:25:01 <wob_jonas> Uh wait, wrong channel. Sorry.
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23:13:28 <boily> fungot: cucumber.
23:13:28 <fungot> boily: why does smalltalk have authority on the topic of the channel on all of this so called " right track". didn't know that...)
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23:20:07 <shachaf> `olist 1107
23:20:07 <HackEgo> olist 1107: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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23:22:44 <boily> thachaf!
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