00:02:36 -!- variable has quit (Quit: /dev/null is full). 00:24:40 -!- jaboja has joined. 00:45:36 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Cortex * New user account 00:46:49 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53474&oldid=53457 * Cortex * (+150) 00:49:51 -!- Sgeo has joined. 00:50:23 [wiki] [[Talk:QuinePig]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53475 * Cortex * (+218) Created page with "Wow. I had the exact same idea for a joke language, just printing the source code. Just goes to show that every original idea is taken lol ~~~~" 00:51:01 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:54:02 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 00:55:14 It takes thirty-five seconds for the picture to appear when the monitor is switched on. Do you know what might be wrong? 00:56:31 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 00:57:00 (This includes the OSD controls; if a button is pushed before the picture appears, the OSD controls will be visible once the picture appears but not before that.) 00:59:02 Also, I get a high pitch noise from the monitor while it is switched off. When it is turned on or unplugged, the noise goes away until switched off again. 01:03:45 (I timed it using a clock with a second hand; there is one above the television so I took that into the computer room temporarily in order to time it.) 01:06:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:36:03 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:54:15 what kind of interface? VGA? 01:54:40 what kind of monitor? 01:58:34 -!- variable has joined. 02:03:38 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 02:25:37 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 02:38:14 -!- sleffy has joined. 03:03:29 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 03:11:53 This time it took fifty seconds. 03:12:04 Hooloovo0: It is VGA, and it is a LCD monitor. 03:12:29 what kind? it doesn't seem like a very good one 03:13:00 It didn't used to do that; it used to be much faster. It only started being slow recently. 03:13:26 (Once the picture is visible though, it will continue to work OK until it is switched off again or is idle.) 03:13:49 (I have done some tests and it does seem to be a problem with the monitor, not with the computer.) 03:14:01 Maybe the problem is a capacitor. 03:14:41 -!- variable has changed nick to function. 03:19:23 Do you know about anything like this? 03:35:37 -!- ais523 has joined. 03:53:46 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 03:58:35 -!- erkin has joined. 04:09:52 -!- watered has joined. 04:09:59 you could try asking in ##electronics 04:10:43 yeah, ##electronics is a great resource 04:11:07 though, since you mention a high-pitched frequency, it certainly sounds like a capacitor is suspicious 04:30:45 -!- function has quit (Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero). 04:36:44 -!- sleffy has joined. 05:04:32 They explained some things; that is good 05:20:17 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 05:40:31 -!- garit has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:54:22 -!- ski has joined. 06:10:53 -!- garit has joined. 06:10:53 -!- garit has quit (Changing host). 06:10:53 -!- garit has joined. 06:10:54 -!- garit has quit (Excess Flood). 06:12:18 -!- garit has joined. 06:12:18 -!- garit has quit (Changing host). 06:12:18 -!- garit has joined. 06:12:21 -!- garit has quit (Excess Flood). 06:13:14 -!- garit has joined. 06:13:17 -!- garit has quit (Excess Flood). 06:14:34 -!- garit has joined. 06:14:38 -!- garit has quit (Excess Flood). 06:28:33 -!- variable has joined. 07:08:05 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 07:18:04 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 07:35:03 [wiki] [[Aubergine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53476&oldid=50058 * Quintopia * (+17) Influenced 08:53:25 `quote randomly 08:53:32 180) Invent the game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) \ 588) Vorpal: your ability to randomly make obvious comments in IRC as if they were profound is not a particularly useful one 08:53:57 Vorpal: I wonder what prompted 588. 09:08:18 -!- variable has quit (Quit: /dev/null is full). 09:09:43 -!- variable has joined. 09:09:52 -!- variable has quit (Client Quit). 09:10:28 -!- variable has joined. 09:10:39 -!- variable has quit (Client Quit). 09:10:47 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 09:23:48 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:24:15 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 09:28:41 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 09:29:44 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 09:49:03 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Quit: HRII'FHALMA MNAHN'K'YARNAK NGAH NILGH'RI'BTHNKNYTH). 09:53:50 -!- ais523 has joined. 10:13:53 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 10:19:10 i would totally play sandwich 10:26:02 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 10:49:31 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:49:58 -!- sebbu has joined. 10:50:29 "One day in September of 2011 — though I'm not sure precisely which one — marked Befunge-93's 18th birthday. That means that Befunge is now old enough to drink in its native land of Canada. To celebrate this, I thought I'd get Befunge-93 drunk to see what would happen." 10:52:44 Flobnar, hmm. No esolangs page, but there's https://github.com/catseye/Flobnar 11:07:05 -!- fungot has joined. 11:20:15 shachaf: I have no idea. grep the logs? 11:22:30 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:23:20 the context isn't very enlightening. Some PHP debugging, and then $user->session_begin(); hm so session data well, that would require analysing a lot of the stuff to figure that out ... maybe it goes back further. 11:24:34 http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2011-10-31#211957ais523unfoog 11:25:08 It's a shame codu.org logs stopped, the formatting and linkability was nice. 11:26:44 . o O ( This is where shachaf suggests that fizzie could run his own IRC logging bot. ) 11:26:47 * int-e ducks and runs 11:28:06 If I'm going to be running that non-HackEgo wiki gateway, I guess logging the channel would be an obvious extra feature for it. 11:28:08 (To be clear, that idea is, of course, mine. But it does sound like something shachaf would say.) 11:28:36 Would have to feed historical data into it to be initially useful though. 11:28:59 nah, it would be useful even without historical data 11:30:41 There are 4516623 rows in my logs table for this channel. 11:31:33 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 11:32:51 Actually, I wonder if we already missed the channel turning 15 years. 11:32:59 It was started around this time of the year in 2002. 11:33:19 I think I looked this up sometime earlier this year. 11:34:50 registered : Jan 03 01:30:22 2003 (14y 48w 2d ago) 11:34:59 Yes, but not created then. 11:35:12 Judging from the mailing list posts, either 8th or 9th of December. 11:35:34 So next Fri/Sat then. How are we going to celebrate? 11:35:59 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 06:08:17 +0000 (GMT) 11:35:59 From: "Al. Andreou" 11:35:59 OK, so now we can be found at OPN, #esoteric (it's ours!). 11:38:15 -!- watered has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:38:38 int-e: It sounds like something I would say? 11:38:55 I don't think I'd've thought to think it, let alone say it. 11:40:44 int-e: Yes, it's just that the suggestion for using Freenode was on 8th, so you can only say it's somewhere between those two emails. 11:43:37 fizzie: Ah, there's a big difference between the Date: header and the first Received: header, wow. I probably looked at one of the latter. 11:45:02 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 11:45:15 Received: [...] 08 Dec 2002 20:43:04 -0700 (MST) / Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 11:39:43 -0800 11:46:09 (And being a European I would interpret the former as Dec 9th. :P) 11:48:01 I was not using IRC at that time. 11:48:09 Did I speak English at that time? 11:48:15 I probably did. 11:49:02 whoa whoa whoa, int-e registered his account exactly 10 weeks before I registered mine 11:52:14 -!- lezsakdomi has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:57:01 I was trying to find when I joined the mailing list, but my emails from that era are even less sorted. Earliest I can find is 23 Apr 2001, but that's already from the "new" (sange.fi) list. 11:59:13 Oh I was still joking about annual trips around the sun at the time. 11:59:55 There's a mailing list? 11:59:59 was. 12:00:15 http://esoteric.sange.fi/archive/ 12:00:50 fizzie: Looking forward to Independence day? 12:01:02 Exciting times. 12:02:05 I'm hoping they're light up something here in blue-white colours. They're doing that in a bunch of places (Globen in Stockholm, the Niagara Falls, the Colosseum) but they haven't published the full list yet. 12:02:32 There's a local independence gala in 12 hours, maybe I should go. 12:07:42 "I don't mind if you send attachments to the list, as long as they're not atrociously huge - let's try to keep them in the tens-of-kilobytes range. But if you do send an attachment, make sure to note that your posting is [Long] in the subject line, for the benefit of subscribers who have limited connection options." 12:07:50 Things have changed a little since then. 12:09:23 Well things would be great if data size had not grown with the available bandwidth. 12:11:46 It hasn't. 12:11:52 I mean, it's grown, but not as much as bandwidth. 13:10:17 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 13:18:13 -!- jaboja has joined. 13:35:41 -!- watered has joined. 13:49:00 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 13:49:41 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 14:05:15 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 14:05:15 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host). 14:05:15 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 14:15:10 -!- watered has joined. 14:49:09 -!- anarki1911 has joined. 15:17:54 -!- xkapastel has joined. 15:39:44 -!- b_jonas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:55:37 -!- garit has joined. 16:51:53 -!- jaboja has joined. 17:07:00 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * LucasMW * New user account 17:10:18 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53477&oldid=53474 * LucasMW * (+253) LucasMW Introduction 17:10:26 -!- anarki1911 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:10:59 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53478&oldid=53477 * LucasMW * (+90) 17:14:39 [wiki] [[User:LucasMW]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53479 * LucasMW * (+333) My First Page 17:17:54 [wiki] [[User:LucasMW]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53480&oldid=53479 * LucasMW * (+85) 17:20:37 [wiki] [[Talk:Headache]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53481&oldid=45033 * LucasMW * (+129) About another Headache Lang 17:41:53 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 17:42:28 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying...). 17:44:23 The picture on my computer is getting slower; this time it took seventy seconds. 18:14:08 -!- Elronnd has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 18:35:40 -!- sleffy has joined. 18:37:01 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Schozi * New user account 18:57:18 -!- zseri has joined. 18:58:31 -!- jaboja has joined. 19:02:58 Meh the new NoScript interface is horrible. 19:04:47 (And I think I just realized what it is... unfamiliar look aside, I have to aim more carefully now, both horizontal and vertical positioning matters now.) 19:06:59 -!- variable has joined. 19:08:47 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 19:11:17 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 19:15:16 yes 19:23:07 So what alternatives are there... that support the untrusted/allow temporarily/make permissions permanent workflow? 19:23:57 uMatrix 19:44:31 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:58:14 -!- anarki1911 has joined. 19:58:15 -!- Cale has joined. 20:02:01 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 20:07:46 -!- puck1pedia has joined. 20:09:02 -!- puckipedia has quit (Quit: *eh*). 20:09:12 -!- puck1pedia has changed nick to puckipedia. 20:12:47 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 20:13:04 -!- AnotherTest has changed nick to AnotherTe. 20:22:16 -!- variable has quit (Quit: /dev/null is full). 20:24:18 -!- sftp has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:34:56 -!- variable has joined. 20:35:00 -!- watered has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1). 20:35:17 -!- watered has joined. 20:36:59 variabello 20:50:51 quintopia: hello 20:51:09 o.O I wonder what will happen to my iced tea if I shut watered off 20:52:43 if you wate, it will turn red. 20:53:21 * watered is confused 20:55:34 -!- AnotherTe has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:55:50 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 21:01:21 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 21:05:51 watered: you're a daemon that dispenses water, correct? 21:07:12 obviously. he ends with "d" 21:13:53 * watered pees his pants 21:16:16 watered: :( 21:22:21 variable: I'm the light of the universe 21:22:25 I come in pease 21:22:32 peace * 21:24:49 -!- sleffy has joined. 21:29:42 [wiki] [[Crement]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53482&oldid=53396 * Zzo38 * (+758) Macros 21:38:41 <\oren\> Hmm, I wonder if there is a better way to divide two numbers than repeated substraction 21:39:38 \oren\: in? 21:40:12 <\oren\> TIS-100 21:41:25 <\oren\> I have a stack memory 21:41:45 <\oren\> not sure how that helps who 21:41:48 <\oren\> tho 21:43:25 \oren\: never heard of it, but it sounds like a fun game 21:43:33 * variable buys 21:44:22 \oren\: "better"? 21:44:33 <\oren\> quintopia: faster, ideally 21:44:43 \oren\: is the divisor constant/known ? 21:44:52 <\oren\> anarki1911: no 21:44:58 i've never played it. isn't it a zachtronics game? 21:45:30 bye 21:45:32 -!- zseri has left ("Leaving"). 21:45:39 <\oren\> quintopia: yeah, you have a grid of nodes, each of which is a computer with two registers that can talk to the ones around them 21:46:30 <\oren\> and each compuer can have 15 assembly instructions in its program memroy 21:46:37 <\oren\> up to 15 21:46:45 ah. tricky. 21:47:51 <\oren\> http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1220769883 21:48:07 <\oren\> This is what I have for division right now 21:48:53 <\oren\> It's not using the stack memory nodes because I couldn't think of a way to use them 21:50:05 <\oren\> the other problem is that you can't even use the other register except by using one of your precious instructions to swap it with the accumulator 21:50:07 -!- watered has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:57:56 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 22:09:37 \oren\: I used the stack memory, but only to pass things right through. My only nodes that have something else than a single "MOV X, Y" instruction (where X, Y are directions) are the three left ones in the top row. 22:12:09 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1220792301 22:20:37 <\oren\> It took a whol bunch of work but I made it fadter by special casing 1 as divisor 22:21:26 Huh, there were two completely unnecessary instructions in the screenshot. 22:25:17 <\oren\> fizzie: what performance do u get with that 22:25:18 Eh, five, actually. 22:25:37 7299 cycles, 25 instructions, now that I fixed the silliness. 22:25:56 The cycle count wasn't affected by that, I guess it wasn't a bottleneck. 22:26:42 <\oren\> I got 5452 by special casing 1 but it needed 33 instructions 22:27:52 <\oren\> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/870748015994009129/31E6FC0D7DC0A792213B340F509C5FC95CB4B476/ 22:28:26 <\oren\> http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1220807027 22:29:02 <\oren\> and that node is now entirely full of instructions... 22:30:30 <\oren\> hmm, actually, I'm not sure how it's counting instructions, because that looks like more than 33 22:31:04 <\oren\> 62 22:35:43 <\oren\> oh i see, the statistics are best of all the solutions you've made that makes sense 22:37:40 which of the problems do you need that division for? 22:38:37 oh there's the sequence averager 22:39:59 <\oren\> int-e: yeah but in that case you would want to use few nodes rather than optimize for speed 22:41:20 oh bottom row, signal divider 22:42:11 I didn't bother, apparently. 28 instructions, 6 nodes, 28 instructions. 22:42:23 err, 6362 cycles 22:45:11 To make it faster, one could try dividing by, say, 4B first, and then the remainder by B. 22:46:05 (and in principle you can even do a binary division scheme, where the stack might actually come in handy) 22:46:17 but it seemed to be too much effort. 23:03:27 sigh. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1172126 23:37:26 -!- boily has joined. 23:38:20 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:44:30 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds).