< 1511655365 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511655603 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1511655615 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511655910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1511655999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, arjanb, my old nemesis < 1511656057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e fits my log self search pattern) < 1511656075 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also helloily < 1511656193 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1511656231 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily appears to have disapparated < 1511656250 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on in oerjanland? < 1511656368 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511657297 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINTHELLOPIA! < 1511657307 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not disapparated, just cooking and eating. < 1511657493 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Ello. < 1511658093 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's procrastination all the way down hth < 1511658329 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1511658417 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellørjan, hoily, hellopia, and helloony. < 1511658535 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Roger9 < 1511658536 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roger9? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1511658553 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, you guys know that I'm rdococ, right? < 1511658560 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's an unfortunate fact, but... < 1511658572 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles Roger9 with joy and mirth
< 1511658587 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I honestly don't think I'm liked that much here. < 1511658670 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rogellor < 1511658707 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonjørjan. < 1511658773 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roger9: i knew because i checked whois. < 1511658790 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and later your wiki edits made it rather obvious < 1511658798 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1511658809 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roger9: you are welcome. also, I like mapoling you ^^ < 1511658821 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mapoles boily back
< 1511659099 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roger9: unless i'm confusing you with someone else i recall you complaining a lot about how disliked you were, which ironically was the only thing which really annoyed me. < 1511659142 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ...huh. < 1511659733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1511659738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:ananas//ananas is the real pineapple. \ thé//Thé is an oddly-spelled hot beverage popular in the Commonwealth. \ örjan//Örjan is the diæresed twin. He will punctuate your vöẅëls, and maybe a few other unsuspecting letters. \ vorpal//Vorpal writes software for boring machines. Really big ones. \ mornington crescent//Sorry, you < 1511659740 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1511659741 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2: cannot read this wisdom until you've legally played Westminster. < 1511659761 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chess < 1511659762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation. < 1511659777 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Move pineapples for great justice! < 1511659981 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1511660377 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511660671 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511661604 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this GURPS game we got dirty because the fire pit (fortunately with no fire) that we were hiding in was dirty. Later when getting clean, I decided to not clean the gold key we stole, for two reasons that might be useful in future. < 1511661805 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always wanted to play dnd or gurps. But because of my personality game doesn't last long =( < 1511661835 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, can you elaborate how it won't last long due to personality then? < 1511661869 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :I go into too much details and other think that game is boring now < 1511661902 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play with the others who like that then, instead of who hate it. < 1511662218 0 :arjanb!~chatzilla@84-245-9-67.dsl.cambrium.nl QUIT :Quit: . < 1511662703 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This. I just. This. https://youtu.be/nfdEdE96En0 < 1511662720 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511662721 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb buying a hamburger < 1511662806 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1511662868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: what kind? meat? cheese? sauces? vegetable agreements? < 1511662900 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, electronic chair burger. < 1511663024 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a hamburger fit for fungots. are you human? < 1511663024 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fnord is scientific ( exponential) notation... would fnord also be a dominant to fnord people in taiwan are from china originally < 1511663054 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, yes, i am a moony. < 1511663095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ate a bacon burger today hth hth
< 1511663103 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1511663107 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-hth < 1511663116 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh hth < 1511663249 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511663524 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thth dh hth. < 1511663525 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks "dimension" sounds weird with a short i
< 1511663544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i trimension < 1511663577 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :immension < 1511663625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :immersion < 1511663747 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :submersion? < 1511664659 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1511664695 0 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511665199 0 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511665276 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One thing is if someone else look at our stuff, they will not find the gold key because now it is black instead of gold. Other thing is if now there are a lot of gold keys, it is easier to tell apart this one because it is dirty. And if it is mixed with dirty keys, we can clean them to find the gold one.) < 1511665387 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol steam's privacy system has holes < 1511665477 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: when dimension is abbreviated as dim, do you pronounce it like dime? < 1511665488 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/boily/oerjan/ < 1511665545 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://imgur.com/a/NnKGd < 1511665606 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if someone has their privacy settings set to not show their game inventory, you can still tell on a store page, whther they have that game < 1511665772 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a dim dimension, obviously. < 1511665819 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: THREADED CHICKEN < 1511665904 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1511666101 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511666267 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can tell what games shachaf owns by scrolling thru the games and looking for his icon < 1511666276 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://imgur.com/7aBXiGT < 1511666390 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: delete that screenshot twh < 1511666419 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1511666440 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolok < 1511666551 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: um probably. < 1511666559 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1511666559 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1511666567 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1511666607 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: btw the correct meme for that is "delet tis" < 1511666644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the correct moomin? < 1511666652 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i was too late to steal personal incriminating information about shachaf < 1511666655 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511666687 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was jsut that he plays stardew valley < 1511666701 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY *scribbles in notebook* < 1511666845 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I'm fairly certain is some kind of harvest moon ripoff anyway < 1511666872 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, not even an embarrasing game to own < 1511666920 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm.... I wonder if they know this security hole exists < 1511667121 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511667560 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My GURPS character now has the power to light himself on fire as a free action, for up to ten seconds. This power can be used six times (after which it is permanently gone). < 1511667704 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was inadvertent; I saw a goat that was on fire, and I used my breath attack to cause them to sleep, and they did fall asleep but that also extinguished the fire, so I went to eat their blood, and when I was finish I found that I had this power, somehow. < 1511667741 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since my character is carrying many thing that can be damaged by the fire (including paper), therefore it would have to be put aside before using this power if not want it to be damaged. < 1511669202 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is useful when you're out of matches < 1511669616 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess so. < 1511669646 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to quickly undress < 1511669706 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that? < 1511669790 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming they're flammable you will be undressed after the self immoliation < 1511669847 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting the red-hot into red hot stripper < 1511669874 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if you want to ruin the clothing. < 1511669915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Did you play Factorio yet? < 1511669922 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1511669954 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get the demo for free if you like < 1511669958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gives you a general idea of the jam < 1511670105 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I'm downloading it... will take 40 minutes < 1511670111 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1511670119 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're still using dial-up in Canada? < 1511670146 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get about 700 kb/s < 1511670162 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that bits or bytes? < 1511670168 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kilobytes < 1511670176 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... i think < 1511670194 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, it's 400 MB?! < 1511670197 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was smaller < 1511670227 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :steams says 600 < 1511670229 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character wear cloth armour and a strapped shield, and is also carrying a book and writing equipment, and some money, and a lantern (for use in dark caves; he can see outside at night without it). < 1511670243 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, and also a gold key. < 1511670271 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep steam downloading throttled by half or it hogs all the abndowidth and my ssh connections time out < 1511670323 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really need to loook into this "fiber" thing they keep sending us spam about < 1511670357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they trying to sell you fiber bundles? < 1511670383 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah fiber internet and cable < 1511670480 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how much flammable some of these things are? I know the paper will be flammable but others I don't know? < 1511670550 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well i assume cloth armour is natural fibres... < 1511670593 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that the lantern oil can burn < 1511670627 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PART #esoteric : < 1511670645 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511670695 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511670745 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero < 1511670803 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about armour. < 1511670845 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GURPS book says it takes three seconds to add or remove one piece of armour, but I do not know if that is reasonable or not. < 1511670877 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have any armour then you can try and you can see how long it takes. < 1511670952 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1511670989 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats about how long it takes me to remove my shirt < 1511671043 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A kittegory is just a small category. < 1511671046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'kittegory': A kittegory is just a small category. < 1511671072 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? preorder < 1511671073 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A preorder is just a small thin category. < 1511671175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lightly swats shachaf with a fiber bundle -----###
< 1511671233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch tdnh < 1511671254 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also your fiber bundle looks an awful lot like your usual swatter < 1511671288 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, it's made of fibers < 1511671305 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever seen fiber optic concrete? its cool stuff < 1511671321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( only in the abstract ) < 1511671365 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can get 50 MB/s for 100 $ a month < 1511671441 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 mb/S < 1511671531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :millibits/siemens? < 1511671535 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 50 mb/S < 1511671542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: undefined symbol "mb". \ 50 m^2 s^-3 kg A^-2 (electric_resistance) mb (undefined symbol) < 1511671546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1511671611 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Nnections are measured in millibits per siemens. < 1511671613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'nnection': Nnections are measured in millibits per siemens. < 1511671646 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But connections are measured in megabits per second < 1511671660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly! < 1511671683 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why aren't nnections measured in millibytes per siemens? < 1511671688 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink ohm < 1511671690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1511671691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 m^2 s^-3 kg A^-2 (electric_resistance) < 1511671707 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd nnection//s,bit,byte, < 1511671709 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnection//Nnections are measured in millibytes per siemens. < 1511671779 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are cheaper plans but obviously I would never even consider anything with a usage cap < 1511672193 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511673676 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511674810 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1511676176 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1511676256 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I got killed by beetle wolf things < 1511676296 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my machine gun ran out of bullets < 1511676391 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( these wolves look buggy ) < 1511677175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Should've defended better. < 1511677181 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defense isn't really a huge part of the game < 1511677197 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The aliens aren't very smart < 1511677207 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just get mad at you for polluting their planet < 1511678708 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511681158 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a better way to draw a bezier curve other than by solving the cubic for X and Y? < 1511681722 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1511683056 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( a bezier way ) < 1511683614 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1511683684 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever I did it does not even work quite right, whether because I made a mistake in the function to solve a cubic, or due to some other problem < 1511685290 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought people used https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Casteljau%27s_algorithm for drawing Bezier curves < 1511685352 0 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511685374 0 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1511685451 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather the Bezier curve subdivision that it entails < 1511685586 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. http://antigrain.com/research/adaptive_bezier/ < 1511685966 0 :ddlyheadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511686097 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1511686917 0 :augur!~augur@192.195.83.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511687266 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511687471 0 :ddlyheadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511688488 0 :ddlyheadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511688488 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1511690445 0 :watered!~water@2405:204:519d:f651:bfa8:e83c:ad61:3e22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511690520 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdn3y1oqq418jn.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1511691402 0 :augur!~augur@2600:380:475f:156d:57f:37d6:826c:d885 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511693370 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fwhxzamsqiqpsryt QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1511693473 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:5409:7167:c894:871d QUIT :Quit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIIqYqtR1lY -- Suicide is Painless - Johnny Mandel < 1511693596 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:1426:998c:b44b:81fb JOIN :#esoteric < 1511695500 0 :potato44!7a965110@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.150.81.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511695903 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1511699055 0 :augur!~augur@2600:380:475f:156d:57f:37d6:826c:d885 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1511699477 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back when I was doing my non-military military service alternative and living in a student flat in Vantaa, I had a part-of-the-rent Internet service, and it entirely broke (disconnected) all SSH connections whenever I tried to download anything at "full speed". < 1511699483 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eventually I had to set up some local traffic shaping with a bandwidth limit of 90% or so of the nominal speed, after which it was bearable. < 1511699699 0 :potato44!7a965110@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.150.81.16 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1511699718 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdn3y1oqq418jn.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1511699756 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdn3y1oqq418jn.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1511700225 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1511700244 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was saying the other day that bandwidth should be measured in time/data instead of data/time < 1511700255 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mochaf. Yes, I think I remember that. < 1511700263 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time < 1511700266 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Sun Nov 26 04:44:23 2017 < 1511700277 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I've yet to sleepchaf < 1511700429 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days I have a nominally 113 s/GiB internet connection. < 1511700515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a long time, 113 seconds < 1511700561 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A gigabyte is a not-insignificant amount of data as well, if not quite "alot". < 1511700601 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This reminds me of a middle school problem I saw in an article. < 1511700652 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tom and Dick working together can do a job in 2 hours. Tom and Harry can do the job in 4 hours. Dick and Harry can do the job in 4 hours. How long would it take Tom, Dick, and Harry to do the job?" < 1511701584 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511702574 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Is the answer 2 hours, 4 hours, or a punchline about social organization? < 1511703167 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511703923 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511705546 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1511705624 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-160-229.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1511705794 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1511705830 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mghtbnuiaxpfqrtm JOIN :#esoteric < 1511705919 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Ellokin, xaphellostel. < 1511705981 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relloger9. xaphellostel??? < 1511708021 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1511708751 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoily, hibbu. < 1511709004 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:7d81:4f64:b805:e8d2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511709148 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1511709262 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on a concept for an esolang in which the only instruction is a Fredkin gate. < 1511710876 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511711505 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : I was saying the other day that bandwidth should be measured in time/data instead of data/time <-- huh, why? < 1511711534 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, you do measure water flow in m^3 / s don't you? So I guess that makes sense < 1511711559 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it makes less sense < 1511711579 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I don't see why it should be time/data < 1511711588 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :illuminate me < 1511711603 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:f37d:7588:b00b:4ae8:4199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't actually matter, but usually we like derivatives with respect to time. < 1511711643 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously both could work yes, but I'm wondering why shachaf wants the opposite of that < 1511711986 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zdn3y1oqq418jn.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1511712025 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1511712443 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:7d81:4f64:b805:e8d2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511712455 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:7d81:4f64:b805:e8d2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511712521 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511712710 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511712710 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:7d81:4f64:b805:e8d2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511712787 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:68d5:4d1b:e41b:ff40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511712960 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:68d5:4d1b:e41b:ff40 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511713050 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roger9: what is a Fredkin gate? < 1511713064 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a billiard ball gate < 1511713090 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Vellorpal. maybe for downloads and uploads? “it takes me 5 s/MB to upload a picture to Dropbox” or something. < 1511713116 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Helloover. so physics engine to interpret programs? < 1511713140 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah it's abstracted < 1511713152 0 :ddlyheadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1511713160 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredkin_gate < 1511713161 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh... not even a sound system for ball collisions? simulated blue chalk? < 1511713182 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The Fredkin gate takes three inputs (A, B, and C). If A is true, then the gate swaps B with C (so it outputs (A, C, B)). Otherwise, it functions as an identity gate. < 1511713188 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what does boily mean? < 1511713188 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: are all surreal numbers symmetric games? you find a local minimum every day around 0600. ( i don't like < 1511713193 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1511713199 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1511713207 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, it all makes sense now. < 1511713213 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words, the gate preserves the number of true values and false values in the result. < 1511713274 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :more importantly it's reversible < 1511713282 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: if it is a billiard ball gate, I expect billiard balls hth < 1511713325 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversible computing sounds nice, but are there applications? < 1511713388 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum computing has that restrictions - you have all these unitary operators working on your state, which happen to be invertible < 1511713407 0 :shikhin!shikhin@heddw.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511713443 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1511713443 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think of a way to make this esolang concept Turing-complete without preventing it from being reversible. < 1511713444 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's other applications - energy effficiency, avoidance of side channels < 1511713461 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? effficiency < 1511713463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :effficiency? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1511713495 0 :shikhin!shikhin@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1511713556 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511713670 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though for the latter applications you mostly want the property that the sum of the outputs is equal to the sum of inputs; for example, an andor gate (two outputs) would be fine despite not being reversible) < 1511713809 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads more about quantum things
< 1511713969 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( There should be a version of counterstrike that says "capitalists win" whenever a shot is fired. ) < 1511714073 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.xkcd.com/873/ < 1511715067 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SLIDING CHICKEN < 1511715914 0 :watered!~water@2405:204:519d:f651:bfa8:e83c:ad61:3e22 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1511718996 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511719821 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:505c:bcec:3507:25dc JOIN :#esoteric < 1511719881 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1511719928 0 :yurichev!~yurichev@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511719975 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1511720101 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1511720509 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says "Analytical methods where a Bezier is intersected with each scan line involve finding roots of cubic polynomials and dealing with multiple roots, so they are not often used in practice." Well, I didn't see that before so I did not know that, and it is the method I was trying to use. I will look now at De Casteljau's algorithm and see what that says. < 1511723048 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason my method of finding the root didn't work was a mistake that now I fixed, so now it does work. < 1511723477 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the topic of the Fredkin gate, you could encode every boolean value as a pair of values - (1, 0) for true and (0, 1) for false - which would mean that you can invert a value without changing the number of 0s or 1s (which a Fredkin gate cannot do), among other things. < 1511723505 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:505c:bcec:3507:25dc QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511723681 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511724391 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511727640 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1511727749 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do "and" with a fredkin gate? < 1511727829 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you would take the first part of the first input as "a" and the swapped other input as "b, c" < 1511728047 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have an ifthenelse in the last component: (a,b,c) -> if a then (a,c,b) else (a,b,c). so if you have constants, you can use if a then b else 0 forlogical and. < 1511728127 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was referring specifically to the context with (1,0)=true and (0,1)=false < 1511728690 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well what you have a negated xor, I think < 1511730680 0 :yurichev!~yurichev@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1511731126 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1511731239 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1511731506 0 :rodgort`!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1511731670 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The answer is none of those, it's a real problem. < 1511731681 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Assuming work behaves linearly and so on. < 1511731697 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I also think time/distance is a better unit (in some contexts) than distance over time. < 1511731727 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Just like people use litre/100km to measure fuel consumption, instead of km/litre < 1511731754 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You pay time, and you get distance in return, so time/distance is the right unit for most calculations. < 1511731877 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511732010 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1511732262 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511732555 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511733502 0 :augur!~augur@2600:380:8766:1d1a:dd1f:c55:e055:5ae7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511733517 0 :augur!~augur@2600:380:8766:1d1a:dd1f:c55:e055:5ae7 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511733558 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellaugur. < 1511733562 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :...byeaugur. < 1511733595 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I thought 2 hours was the "linear" answer. I mean, assuming Tom and Dick do the same amount of work/time (clearly they have to, since Tom+Harry do the same as Dick+Harry), then either one of them already do it in 4 hours alone, which means Harry doesn't do any work at all. < 1511733645 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, they all cooperate on the work < 1511733656 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's parallelizable < 1511733685 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, did I write it wrong? < 1511733696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1511733731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tom and Dick in 2 hours; Tom and Harry in 3 hours; Dick and Harry in 4 hours < 1511733738 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Well, that makes more sense. < 1511733763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that was nonsense. < 1511733803 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was a joke about either Harry being useless (doing 0 units of work/hour), or actively sabotaging things (any job involving Harry takes 4 hours). < 1511734006 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I get a CCNOT from the Fredkin gate using only one constant which can be used over and over again. http://sprunge.us/TcEN < 1511734148 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Where by "constant" I really mean a variable with a predefined initial state; is there a better short name for this? < 1511735548 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:5805:d5ed:3698:8163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511735559 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does a ccnot differ from a cnot? < 1511735605 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It checks the conjunction of two inputs. < 1511735698 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fundamental difference is that CNOT is affine (and affine functions are closed under compositions so CNOT by itself isn't very useful) and CCNOT is not affine (and in fact, universal). < 1511735787 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(affine: every output is the xor of a subset of inputs, possibly negated) < 1511735816 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is linear? < 1511735849 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear is doesn't have the optional negation < 1511735871 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does negation correspond to translation? < 1511735894 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because xor is addition, and 1 xor x is the negation of x < 1511735949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, xor is addition < 1511736087 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CNOT is actually linear. Affinity is natural because it's one of the criteria by Post: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_completeness#Characterization_of_functional_completeness ) < 1511736203 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you look closely you'll see that CCNOT needs constants to become functionally complete; it's false-preserving.) < 1511736271 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the exterior algebra? < 1511736691 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:5805:d5ed:3698:8163 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1511737120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Malbranche14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53437&oldid=50554 5* 03Malbranche 5* (+173) 10Added references to some new Malbolge Unshackled programs < 1511739424 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! 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