00:00:03 -!- danieljabailey has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.6.4+deb1 - http://znc.in). 00:00:18 -!- danieljabailey has joined. 00:04:49 helloerjan 00:09:17 hellopia 00:10:31 `? moth 00:10:32 Moths are the main ingredient of mothballs. 00:10:39 `? mothology 00:10:40 Mothology is the study of moths, myths and mirths. 00:16:11 Is that pronounced with a non-rhotic accent? 00:19:06 `slwd mothology//s.myths.&, mouths,. 00:19:09 mothology//Mothology is the study of moths, myths, mouths, and mirths. 00:31:14 Well, a concept I had in mind was a lambda calculus based language in which there is both an "application" operator (e.g. f:x) and a "reverse application" operator (e.g. x;f), which would both be left-associative. 00:32:10 -!- joast has joined. 00:33:12 > sin x & cos 00:33:14 cos (sin x) 00:33:27 > sin x & cos & tan 00:33:29 sin (cos (sin x)) / cos (cos (sin x)) 00:33:36 OKAY 00:34:59 does haskell now trig identities? 00:35:20 know 00:37:02 only obvious ones, it seem 00:37:12 (definitional ones) 01:17:19 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 01:19:42 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 01:20:59 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 01:24:57 -!- garit has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:52:22 'Ello, doesthiswork. 01:52:38 Helloesthiswork. 01:54:55 hi 01:59:39 `ello wasntheresomething 01:59:40 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ello: not found 01:59:45 ^ello wasntheresomething 01:59:52 nope 02:00:20 `` ls bin/*ell* 02:00:21 bin/dontaskdonttelllist \ bin/don'taskdon'ttelllist \ bin/hello \ bin/hello-world-in-any-language \ bin/tell \ bin/wellcome 02:01:01 I was reading an operating systems text book today and it was talking a lot about resource allocation. But instead of a proper capitalistic system they were suggesting a command economy 02:24:01 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying...). 03:16:15 who is roger9 03:38:08 -!- Melvar` has joined. 03:39:41 -!- idris-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:39:44 -!- Melvar has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 03:44:58 -!- Melvar` has changed nick to Melvar. 03:45:21 -!- idris-bot has joined. 04:05:36 -!- garit has joined. 04:05:36 -!- garit has quit (Changing host). 04:05:36 -!- garit has joined. 04:52:58 -!- variable has joined. 04:55:32 -!- variable has quit (Client Quit). 04:56:56 -!- variable has joined. 05:03:16 -!- Downgoat has joined. 05:03:22 hello 05:05:23 * variable finds a goat 05:06:14 * moonythedwarf sets variable to null 05:06:25 -!- variable has changed nick to function. 05:06:42 * moonythedwarf deletes function in javascript 05:07:02 * function executes moonythedwarf 05:07:25 * moonythedwarf ()=>{delete function} 05:07:49 * function recreates itself 05:08:15 damn you, deconstructors! 05:08:25 hola cabraabajo 05:08:43 doesthiswork, it works. 05:09:31 doesthiswork: its broken 05:10:27 also, function, freebsd dev? Neat-o. 05:10:35 Downgoat: welcome to #esoteric where we have highly productive conversations 05:10:42 ^ 05:10:48 moonythedwarf: ty 05:11:00 i imagine you hate nullpointers. :P 05:11:21 love them. null is favorite value 05:11:55 brb inserting null pointer bugs into freebsd kernel 05:15:54 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53389&oldid=53386 * Null * (+130) 05:28:10 I wrote a program to read ZX Spectrum pictures and the files titled "UNICORN" in http://zxart.ee/eng/graphics/database/pictureType:timexhr/ seem to have an incorrect mode byte, although the other files listed there work. All of the standard 6912 files also work, and so do the Timex 8x1 files. 05:28:24 Is that my fault? 06:27:45 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 06:31:22 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 06:39:17 I'm just going to leave this here https://asciinema.org/a/NBmDJXz65O7ljweD1jK0haUD4 06:47:49 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 06:55:27 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:55:29 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 06:57:10 -!- Downgoat has quit (Quit: Page closed). 07:05:04 -!- watered has joined. 07:07:39 -!- function has quit (Quit: /dev/null is full). 07:10:23 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 07:10:32 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 07:17:45 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:18:12 -!- sebbu has joined. 07:31:10 <\oren\> WOOHOO I made it into the top 25! 07:32:37 Twenty-fifth place isn't winning. 07:33:23 (But it is still a better achievement than last place, unless, it is the last place.) 08:04:25 if you end up 25th out of 25 at the World Something Championship, you can write "ranked 25th at the World Something Championship" on your resumé 08:04:40 and it's still an achievement (at least you showed up to the championship) 08:08:01 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Quit: HRII'FHALMA MNAHN'K'YARNAK NGAH NILGH'RI'BTHNKNYTH). 08:19:49 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 09:44:50 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 10:08:40 i should make championships myself 11:22:02 -!- xkapastel has joined. 11:27:18 Does it count if it was the world championships of a friend's pong game written in java? 11:31:31 hi FireFly 11:31:36 do you jam this generals jam 11:32:07 this what when how? 11:37:58 I gues not. 11:42:51 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 11:54:01 -!- watered has joined. 12:11:54 LKoen: also some championships aren't open, they have qualifiers, so getting past the qualifiers is still an achievement. 12:12:10 yes 12:16:35 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 12:16:48 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Client Quit). 12:17:16 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 12:17:16 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:17:38 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 12:32:45 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 12:48:21 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 13:39:40 -!- zseri has joined. 13:57:31 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:58:42 I realized that M:tG is like twice as old now as it was when I first met it, and they're making new cards in an increasingly faster rate. This must be why I can't follow all the cards they're making and why it seems like the game has changed a lot. 14:04:22 I didnt even try to play it because i realised that im too lazy to code the effect of each card in a simulator. (and i dont play games that i cant somehow simulate) 14:09:23 -!- fungot has joined. 14:45:20 -!- `^_^v has joined. 14:51:28 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:13:50 -!- joast has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 15:17:10 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 15:21:35 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:23:46 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 15:34:42 -!- fungot has joined. 15:47:09 -!- watered has joined. 16:07:10 -!- joast has joined. 16:13:19 -!- watered has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 16:49:01 -!- MrBusiness has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 16:52:46 I also can't follow all of the cards they are making but I do always follow changes to the Comprehensive Rules. 17:08:25 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:41:51 -!- sleffy has joined. 17:48:28 -!- brandonson has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:48:57 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 18:08:14 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 18:08:14 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host). 18:08:14 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 18:11:59 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 18:12:26 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 18:57:28 I implemented a brainfuck interpreter in XTW, which should proof it's turing complete. https://github.com/zserik/zxtw/blob/master/examples/bf.xtw 19:00:03 but it's not perfect, because it uses mapping functions to convert between 'single character' I/O-strings and internal integers 19:01:26 zseri: what happens if you /do/ start a line with a colon in TEWNLSWAC 19:01:29 ? 19:06:36 [wiki] [[User talk:Zzo38/Untitled 1]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53390 * Ais523 * (+313) name 19:06:50 i would have to imagine it would be a syntax error 19:07:22 the fact that it's called out in the name implies to me that it should be more dramatic than a regular syntax error 19:09:02 hm, currently it does nothing more that raising a syntax error, yes 19:10:24 but the name is just a parody of TEWELSWAC, because it removes the restriction the each command needs a colon before it. 19:15:25 right 19:15:49 [wiki] [[XTW]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53391&oldid=53138 * Zseri * (+129) Turing-complete 19:20:33 -!- FreeFull has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 19:22:42 -!- FreeFull has joined. 19:35:14 -!- MDude has quit (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)). 19:59:53 -!- jaboja has joined. 20:08:31 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 20:16:34 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 20:17:49 This host-augment mechanic seems totally unworthy of Unstable, because the whole mechanic could be done in black-bordered land. With the meld rules already in place, it would need only like a page of very simple extra rules. 20:18:12 There's no un-land strangeness like you'd expect from a major feature of an un-set. 20:18:54 wob_jonas: you could word it differently to make it fit into the rules 20:18:57 Now, some of the rest of the cards Unstable brings are certainly silver-border land stuff, sure. But augment seems to be one of the main mechanics. 20:19:05 have a keyword action on hosts that happens when they ETB and can also be triggered by other things 20:19:13 then have augments trigger the same keyword action when their triggers happen 20:19:25 ais523: even without working differently it could work with some Comprehensive Rules support. 20:19:39 It's not like it leads to a lot of broken invariants or contradictory situations. 20:20:01 it's not much weirder than bestow, really 20:21:45 You just need a few rules to handle some things, like how putting the augment to play is treated by certain replacements or triggers that care about moving objects, about what layer and timestamp the augment overwriting the characteristics of the host is at and which parts of it count as abilities or even characteristic-defining abilities. 20:21:54 Also how it combines with copy effects. 20:22:17 I think putting the augment into play is the only tricky part. 20:22:35 Anyway, it certainly needs like a page of new rules, but it's not something that could be done. 20:24:34 the main tricky thing in augments is that they act like auras but aren't 20:24:51 meanwhile, half-squirrel half-pony has me worried from a balance point of view 20:25:07 it's only two cards, costing 2GW, and goes infinite with any ETB effect 20:25:22 no, definitely don't act like auras. the complete resulting hybrid should be copiable by a Clone as is IMO. 20:26:50 -!- xkapastel has joined. 20:27:06 ais523: hmm... yes, that sounds sort of like a Kiki-Jiki loop 20:27:20 might be worrying 20:34:03 And contraptions don't seem much more silver-bordered than conspiracies and schemes either. 20:34:07 Contraptions seem it could work, but only as non-traditional cards and not in a "main" set. 20:34:11 it reminds me of copycat 20:34:26 I think contraptions are only silver-bordered because they're excessively complex 20:34:27 zzo38: yeah 20:34:36 (which kind-of makes sense for something named "contraptions") 20:35:08 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 20:35:16 but then, maybe they just can't put many non-black-bordered effects to cards at low rarities, because people simply wouldn't be able to play games because of all the rules questions 20:37:28 so they reserve the silver-bordered effects to rares and a few uncommons, like Dr. Julius Jumblemorph and Mary O'Kill, as well as do physical dexterity effects at uncommon like the chaos orb cards that Unstable has. 20:38:15 Will they have anything relating to 100.6b? 20:38:28 On the plus side, at least Unstable uses dice rolling instead of coin flipping. I hate flipping coins. 20:39:12 -!- brandonson has joined. 20:40:29 zzo38: I haven't seen anything relating to that yet 20:40:39 however, there's a card Rules Lawyer which makes you and your permanents immune to state-based actions 20:40:51 which is a really fundamental thing to change the behaviour of 20:41:00 Oh, chapter 1 rules remind me. Did you notice that if you are pulled into a game by Kindslaver, then according to comp rules, you can't resign, so there's no easy rules-satisfying way to get away from the game even if you don't want to play. 20:41:31 On the other hand, since you're not a player, no effects known force you to do any manual dexterity stuff. 20:41:37 wob_jonas: if you just leave the game, wouldn't that cause the player whose turn it is to incur slow play penalties? 20:42:01 or, hmm, given that you're in control of the turn, maybe you incur the penalty? 20:42:05 ais523: I don't know. 20:45:05 -!- `^_^v has joined. 20:47:34 -!- irccafe has joined. 20:48:28 I also prefer dice instead of flip coins, if they are dice with six or more sides (dice with only four sides doesn't work so well). 20:50:12 I would think leaving the game even if you do not want to (or do not know how to) play game due to Kindslaver is going to be beyond the scope of the game rules anyways; of course you can leave anyways, although you will be disqualified. It doesn't matter, since you were not qualified anyways. It is still unclear what is happen if you do leave, though, since you aren't one of the players. 20:50:30 -!- irccafe has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:50:40 Do you think the Unstable card names "Sacrifice Play" and "Target Minotaur" are because of some effect in Unstable that often cares about such names in practice, like a gotcha effect? 20:51:15 I don't know, although I invented a card once named "Target Wizard" which has ambiguous text. 20:51:17 zzo38: sure you can leave, but what happens to the game state then? 20:51:30 wob_jonas: Yes, that is the question. It seem impossible to answer. 20:51:46 (But, it is Un-cards, so questions that are impossible to answer will occasionally come up.) 20:51:46 wob_jonas: gotcha is very unlikely to come back 20:51:56 because Mark Rosewater considers it the largest design mistake ever 20:52:14 ais523: sure, not gotcha in particular, but some other effect that cares about words 20:52:32 -!- jaboja has joined. 20:56:33 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 21:00:38 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 21:06:03 Hm. An esoteric keyboard layout could have a 'move' button as well as 'delete' and 'insert'. 21:08:05 Roger9: um, some programs do have a move button. 21:09:50 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 21:09:54 wob_jonas: keyboard layoutb 21:10:06 keyboard layout* 21:10:35 wob_jonas: I was referring to keys. 21:11:17 yes, but they do use some key (say F2 or F7) to move stuff 21:11:30 Troo. 21:17:02 -!- irccafe has joined. 21:26:45 -!- irccafe has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:29:23 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 21:30:23 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 21:33:04 -!- `^_^v has joined. 21:34:14 -!- `^_^v has quit (Client Quit). 21:42:17 -!- `^_^v has joined. 21:43:24 -!- `^_^v has quit (Client Quit). 21:44:27 -!- `^_^v has joined. 21:57:40 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 21:57:49 -!- `^_^v has joined. 22:02:24 -!- `^_^v has quit (Client Quit). 22:06:43 I improved the XTW interpreter to ease conversion between int<->char. 22:12:37 bye 22:12:41 -!- zseri has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:18:34 -!- erkin has joined. 22:32:08 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:43:26 -!- MDude has joined. 22:45:19 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 22:54:12 -!- jaboja has joined. 23:00:09 -!- `^_^v has joined. 23:01:24 -!- `^_^v has quit (Client Quit). 23:02:57 -!- `^_^v has joined. 23:04:57 -!- `^_^v has quit (Client Quit). 23:07:05 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:14:57 -!- watered has joined. 23:34:50 -!- Sgeo has joined. 23:52:17 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit).