< 1511136003 0 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc75709-york6-2-0-cust725.7-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.4+deb1 - http://znc.in < 1511136018 0 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc75709-york6-2-0-cust725.7-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511136289 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1511136557 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia < 1511136631 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moth < 1511136632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moths are the main ingredient of mothballs. < 1511136639 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mothology < 1511136640 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mothology is the study of moths, myths and mirths. < 1511136971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that pronounced with a non-rhotic accent? < 1511137146 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd mothology//s.myths.&, mouths,. < 1511137149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mothology//Mothology is the study of moths, myths, mouths, and mirths. < 1511137874 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a concept I had in mind was a lambda calculus based language in which there is both an "application" operator (e.g. f:x) and a "reverse application" operator (e.g. x;f), which would both be left-associative. < 1511137930 0 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-145-132-215.natnow.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511137992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sin x & cos < 1511137994 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : cos (sin x) < 1511138007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sin x & cos & tan < 1511138009 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : sin (cos (sin x)) / cos (cos (sin x)) < 1511138016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1511138099 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does haskell now trig identities? < 1511138120 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :know < 1511138222 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :only obvious ones, it seem < 1511138232 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(definitional ones) < 1511140639 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511140782 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1511140859 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511141097 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511142742 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Ello, doesthiswork. < 1511142758 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloesthiswork. < 1511142895 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1511143179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello wasntheresomething < 1511143180 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ello: not found < 1511143185 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ello wasntheresomething < 1511143192 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1511143220 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls bin/*ell* < 1511143221 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/dontaskdonttelllist \ bin/don'taskdon'ttelllist \ bin/hello \ bin/hello-world-in-any-language \ bin/tell \ bin/wellcome < 1511143261 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading an operating systems text book today and it was talking a lot about resource allocation. But instead of a proper capitalistic system they were suggesting a command economy < 1511144641 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1511147775 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is roger9 < 1511149088 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-088-077-168-182.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1511149181 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-076-098-100.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511149184 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-076-098-100.088.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1511149498 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1511149521 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-088-077-168-182.088.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1511150736 0 :garit!~garit@188.29.165.238.threembb.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1511150736 0 :garit!~garit@188.29.165.238.threembb.co.uk QUIT :Changing host < 1511150736 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit JOIN :#esoteric < 1511153578 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1511153732 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Client Quit < 1511153816 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1511154196 0 :Downgoat!49bd34df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.189.52.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511154202 0 :Downgoat!49bd34df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.189.52.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1511154323 0 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds a goat
< 1511154374 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sets variable to null
< 1511154385 0 :variable!?@? NICK :function < 1511154402 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION deletes function in javascript
< 1511154422 0 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION executes moonythedwarf
< 1511154445 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ()=>{delete function}
< 1511154469 0 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recreates itself
< 1511154495 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you, deconstructors! < 1511154505 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola cabraabajo < 1511154523 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, it works. < 1511154571 0 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: its broken < 1511154627 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, function, freebsd dev? Neat-o. < 1511154635 0 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Downgoat: welcome to #esoteric where we have highly productive conversations < 1511154642 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1511154648 0 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonythedwarf: ty < 1511154660 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine you hate nullpointers. :P < 1511154681 0 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :love them. null is favorite value < 1511154715 0 :moonythedwarf!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb inserting null pointer bugs into freebsd kernel < 1511154954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53389&oldid=53386 5* 03Null 5* (+130) 10 < 1511155690 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a program to read ZX Spectrum pictures and the files titled "UNICORN" in http://zxart.ee/eng/graphics/database/pictureType:timexhr/ seem to have an incorrect mode byte, although the other files listed there work. All of the standard 6912 files also work, and so do the Timex 8x1 files. < 1511155704 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that my fault? < 1511159265 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1511159482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1511159957 0 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to leave this here https://asciinema.org/a/NBmDJXz65O7ljweD1jK0haUD4 < 1511160469 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511160927 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511160929 0 :watered!~water@2405:204:54a9:4e22:42f7:a1c8:b1d5:9a49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1511161030 0 :Downgoat!49bd34df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.189.52.223 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1511161504 0 :watered!~water@2405:204:54a9:4e22:42f7:a1c8:b1d5:9a49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511161659 0 :function!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/null is full < 1511161823 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511161832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511162265 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1511162292 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1511163070 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOHOO I made it into the top 25! < 1511163157 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twenty-fifth place isn't winning. < 1511163203 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But it is still a better achievement than last place, unless, it is the last place.) < 1511165065 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you end up 25th out of 25 at the World Something Championship, you can write "ranked 25th at the World Something Championship" on your resumé < 1511165080 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's still an achievement (at least you showed up to the championship) < 1511165281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: HRII'FHALMA MNAHN'K'YARNAK NGAH NILGH'RI'BTHNKNYTH < 1511165989 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xwcentgfqxddjtsq QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1511171090 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1511172520 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make championships myself < 1511176922 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-faknthcqzormnbuk JOIN :#esoteric < 1511177238 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it count if it was the world championships of a friend's pong game written in java? < 1511177491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi FireFly < 1511177496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you jam this generals jam < 1511177527 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :this what when how? < 1511177878 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gues not. < 1511178171 0 :watered!~water@2405:204:54a9:4e22:42f7:a1c8:b1d5:9a49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1511178841 0 :watered!~water@2405:204:54a9:4e22:42f7:a1c8:b1d5:9a49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511179914 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LKoen: also some championships aren't open, they have qualifiers, so getting past the qualifiers is still an achievement. < 1511179930 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1511180195 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511180208 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Client Quit < 1511180236 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511180236 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1511180258 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511181165 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1511182101 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511185180 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86DBE0.versanet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1511186251 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1511186322 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized that M:tG is like twice as old now as it was when I first met it, and they're making new cards in an increasingly faster rate. This must be why I can't follow all the cards they're making and why it seems like the game has changed a lot. < 1511186662 0 :garit!~garit@unaffiliated/garit PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didnt even try to play it because i realised that im too lazy to code the effect of each card in a simulator. (and i dont play games that i cant somehow simulate) < 1511186963 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1511189120 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511189488 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1511190830 0 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-145-132-215.natnow.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1511191030 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1511191295 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1511191426 0 :watered!~water@2405:204:54a9:4e22:42f7:a1c8:b1d5:9a49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1511192082 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1511192829 0 :watered!~water@157.49.12.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511194030 0 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-145-132-215.natnow.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511194399 0 :watered!~water@157.49.12.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511196541 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:a:d288:b2ca:3c7f QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1511196766 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also can't follow all of the cards they are making but I do always follow changes to the Comprehensive Rules. < 1511197705 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511199711 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511200108 0 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511200137 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-faknthcqzormnbuk QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1511201294 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:1061:fc6d:8307:32a2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511201294 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:1061:fc6d:8307:32a2 QUIT :Changing host < 1511201294 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1511201519 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1511201546 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511204248 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86DBE0.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I implemented a brainfuck interpreter in XTW, which should proof it's turing complete. https://github.com/zserik/zxtw/blob/master/examples/bf.xtw < 1511204403 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86DBE0.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not perfect, because it uses mapping functions to convert between 'single character' I/O-strings and internal integers < 1511204486 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zseri: what happens if you /do/ start a line with a colon in TEWNLSWAC < 1511204489 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1511204796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Zzo38/Untitled 114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53390 5* 03Ais523 5* (+313) 10name < 1511204810 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have to imagine it would be a syntax error < 1511204842 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that it's called out in the name implies to me that it should be more dramatic than a regular syntax error < 1511204942 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86DBE0.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, currently it does nothing more that raising a syntax error, yes < 1511205024 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86DBE0.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the name is just a parody of TEWELSWAC, because it removes the restriction the each command needs a colon before it. < 1511205325 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1511205349 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07XTW14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53391&oldid=53138 5* 03Zseri 5* (+129) 10Turing-complete < 1511205633 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511205762 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1511206514 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1511207993 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511208511 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511208994 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511209069 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This host-augment mechanic seems totally unworthy of Unstable, because the whole mechanic could be done in black-bordered land. With the meld rules already in place, it would need only like a page of very simple extra rules. < 1511209092 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no un-land strangeness like you'd expect from a major feature of an un-set. < 1511209134 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: you could word it differently to make it fit into the rules < 1511209137 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, some of the rest of the cards Unstable brings are certainly silver-border land stuff, sure. But augment seems to be one of the main mechanics. < 1511209145 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a keyword action on hosts that happens when they ETB and can also be triggered by other things < 1511209153 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then have augments trigger the same keyword action when their triggers happen < 1511209165 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: even without working differently it could work with some Comprehensive Rules support. < 1511209179 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like it leads to a lot of broken invariants or contradictory situations. < 1511209201 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not much weirder than bestow, really < 1511209305 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need a few rules to handle some things, like how putting the augment to play is treated by certain replacements or triggers that care about moving objects, about what layer and timestamp the augment overwriting the characteristics of the host is at and which parts of it count as abilities or even characteristic-defining abilities. < 1511209314 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how it combines with copy effects. < 1511209337 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think putting the augment into play is the only tricky part. < 1511209355 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it certainly needs like a page of new rules, but it's not something that could be done. < 1511209474 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main tricky thing in augments is that they act like auras but aren't < 1511209491 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, half-squirrel half-pony has me worried from a balance point of view < 1511209507 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only two cards, costing 2GW, and goes infinite with any ETB effect < 1511209522 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, definitely don't act like auras. the complete resulting hybrid should be copiable by a Clone as is IMO. < 1511209610 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzetznwndepygews JOIN :#esoteric < 1511209626 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm... yes, that sounds sort of like a Kiki-Jiki loop < 1511209640 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be worrying < 1511210043 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And contraptions don't seem much more silver-bordered than conspiracies and schemes either. < 1511210047 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contraptions seem it could work, but only as non-traditional cards and not in a "main" set. < 1511210051 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reminds me of copycat < 1511210066 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think contraptions are only silver-bordered because they're excessively complex < 1511210067 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah < 1511210076 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which kind-of makes sense for something named "contraptions") < 1511210108 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1511210116 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, maybe they just can't put many non-black-bordered effects to cards at low rarities, because people simply wouldn't be able to play games because of all the rules questions < 1511210248 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they reserve the silver-bordered effects to rares and a few uncommons, like Dr. Julius Jumblemorph and Mary O'Kill, as well as do physical dexterity effects at uncommon like the chaos orb cards that Unstable has. < 1511210295 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will they have anything relating to 100.6b? < 1511210308 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the plus side, at least Unstable uses dice rolling instead of coin flipping. I hate flipping coins. < 1511210352 0 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511210429 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I haven't seen anything relating to that yet < 1511210439 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, there's a card Rules Lawyer which makes you and your permanents immune to state-based actions < 1511210451 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a really fundamental thing to change the behaviour of < 1511210460 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, chapter 1 rules remind me. Did you notice that if you are pulled into a game by Kindslaver, then according to comp rules, you can't resign, so there's no easy rules-satisfying way to get away from the game even if you don't want to play. < 1511210491 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, since you're not a player, no effects known force you to do any manual dexterity stuff. < 1511210497 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: if you just leave the game, wouldn't that cause the player whose turn it is to incur slow play penalties? < 1511210521 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, given that you're in control of the turn, maybe you incur the penalty? < 1511210525 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know. < 1511210705 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511210854 0 :irccafe!~irccafe@c-68-56-140-102.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511210908 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also prefer dice instead of flip coins, if they are dice with six or more sides (dice with only four sides doesn't work so well). < 1511211012 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think leaving the game even if you do not want to (or do not know how to) play game due to Kindslaver is going to be beyond the scope of the game rules anyways; of course you can leave anyways, although you will be disqualified. It doesn't matter, since you were not qualified anyways. It is still unclear what is happen if you do leave, though, since you aren't one of the players. < 1511211030 0 :irccafe!~irccafe@c-68-56-140-102.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511211040 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think the Unstable card names "Sacrifice Play" and "Target Minotaur" are because of some effect in Unstable that often cares about such names in practice, like a gotcha effect? < 1511211075 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, although I invented a card once named "Target Wizard" which has ambiguous text. < 1511211077 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure you can leave, but what happens to the game state then? < 1511211090 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: Yes, that is the question. It seem impossible to answer. < 1511211106 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-13-153.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, it is Un-cards, so questions that are impossible to answer will occasionally come up.) < 1511211106 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: gotcha is very unlikely to come back < 1511211116 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Mark Rosewater considers it the largest design mistake ever < 1511211134 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, not gotcha in particular, but some other effect that cares about words < 1511211152 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511211393 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1511211638 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511211963 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. An esoteric keyboard layout could have a 'move' button as well as 'delete' and 'insert'. < 1511212085 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roger9: um, some programs do have a move button. < 1511212190 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1511212194 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: keyboard layoutb < 1511212206 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyboard layout* < 1511212235 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I was referring to keys. < 1511212277 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but they do use some key (say F2 or F7) to move stuff < 1511212290 0 :Roger9!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Troo. < 1511212622 0 :irccafe!~irccafe@186.194.185.35.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511213205 0 :irccafe!~irccafe@186.194.185.35.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1511213363 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1843@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.67 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1511213423 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1511213584 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511213654 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1511214137 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511214204 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1511214267 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511215060 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1511215069 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511215344 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1511215603 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86DBE0.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I improved the XTW interpreter to ease conversion between int<->char. < 1511215957 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86DBE0.versanet.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1511215961 0 :zseri!~zseri@i5E86DBE0.versanet.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1511216314 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1511217128 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1511217806 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-79-69.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511217919 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1511218452 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1511218809 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511218884 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1511218977 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1511219097 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1511219225 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1511219697 0 :watered!~water@2405:204:54a9:4e22:42f7:a1c8:b1d5:9a49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1511220890 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1511221937 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit