00:24:47 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 00:35:59 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 00:56:45 * boily pooch pooch pooch pooch pooch ♪ 00:57:05 -!- erkin has joined. 01:08:30 -!- imode has joined. 01:15:22 -!- imode has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1). 01:21:40 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 01:23:58 -!- oerjan has joined. 01:29:36 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 01:39:05 -!- nchambers has left. 01:45:54 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 01:57:35 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 02:10:21 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 02:28:47 -!- boily has quit (Quit: BLESSED CHICKEN). 02:38:36 -!- jaboja has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:42:49 `? forth 02:42:50 forth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 02:42:53 `? fourth 02:42:54 Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. 02:43:01 `dowg fourth 02:43:10 10501:2017-03-24 ` mv wisdom/fo{,u}rth; slwd fourth\\ wisdom//s,rt,urt, 02:43:28 wat 02:43:40 why would i do that. 02:43:59 `dowg forth 02:44:07 10501:2017-03-24 ` mv wisdom/fo{,u}rth; slwd fourth\\ wisdom//s,rt,urt, \ 5407:2015-06-05 slashlearn forth/Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. 02:44:44 Wait, what's going on with that slwd? 02:45:00 it looks pretty broken. 02:46:15 oh i see. 02:46:32 `` mv wisdom/fo{u,}rth 02:46:34 No output. 02:46:37 `? forth 02:46:38 Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. 02:47:14 `? fourth wisdom 02:47:15 ​.wisdoms other the all upon builds wisdom fourth The 02:47:39 that's the one i wanted to change. but i forgot to fix the mistake of moving `? forth 03:02:30 -!- ATMunn has quit (Quit: sleep). 03:09:02 -!- MrBismuth has joined. 03:11:46 -!- MrBusiness has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 03:12:52 -!- imode has joined. 03:16:45 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 03:28:51 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 03:36:21 -!- imode has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1). 03:42:15 -!- imode has joined. 03:59:54 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Quit: ZNC Sucks >_>). 04:44:31 `blessyou oerjan 04:44:32 Bless you, oerjan. Bloerjan. 04:44:53 . o O ( but i wasn't sneezing ) 04:45:01 gesoerjant 04:46:46 Blimey, oerjan. Bloerjan. 04:51:01 good morning shachaf 04:51:15 Good morning. 04:51:19 i was going to make that a portmanteau but there isn't a single common letter. 04:51:44 G'moerjan. 05:14:44 `q king 05:14:45 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: q: not found 05:14:51 `5 quote king 05:14:53 1/178:14) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! \ 40) GregorR: are you talking about ehird's virginity or your soda beer? \ 73) Making a small shrine to Lawlabee in my basement is 05:14:55 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 05:15:09 `randquote king 05:15:10 975) Sgeo: That fact is so fun I can feel my pancreas kicking into overdrive. 05:23:55 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 05:26:35 The king of kic 05:41:58 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 05:45:48 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying...). 06:05:49 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Quit: HRII'FHALMA MNAHN'K'YARNAK NGAH NILGH'RI'BTHNKNYTH). 06:53:09 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 06:57:07 `randquote \bking\b 06:57:08 516) king is something women are better at than men 06:57:15 `5 randquote \bking\b 06:57:17 1/0: 06:57:34 `5 nur randquote \bking\b 06:57:36 1/0: 06:57:45 Oh, right. 06:57:47 `5 randquote '\bking\b' 06:57:50 1/3:1177) like good old time, with elbow and foot lengths of the king. man that must have sucked People would be always like "Hey king, can you drop by, I have stuff to measure" That's why they're called rulers, you know \ 239) However is probably better to have both queen/king and government in case 06:58:03 Jafet++ 06:58:07 `n 06:58:08 2/3: one does bad thing, the other side can argue to them \ 516) king is something women are better at than men \ 239) However is probably better to have both queen/king and government in case one does bad thing, the other side can argue to them \ 239) However is probably better to have both queen/king and government in ca 06:58:10 `n 06:58:11 3/3:se one does bad thing, the other side can argue to them 06:58:47 `1 quote '\bking\b' | shuf 06:58:48 1/2:1177) like good old time, with elbow and foot lengths of the king. man that must have sucked People would be always like "Hey king, can you drop by, I have stuff to measure" That's why they're called rulers, you know \ 516) king is something women are better at than men \ 239) However i 06:58:52 `n 06:58:53 2/2:s probably better to have both queen/king and government in case one does bad thing, the other side can argue to them 06:58:54 Hmm. 07:05:59 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 07:06:58 -!- Cale has joined. 08:38:10 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 09:16:41 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:17:16 -!- augur has joined. 09:21:53 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 09:27:22 -!- LKoen has joined. 09:59:16 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53161&oldid=53156 * Luke1337 * (+362) /* Introductions */ 09:59:43 [wiki] [[Aheui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53162&oldid=44965 * Luke1337 * (-95) removed a dead link 10:42:56 lol 11:35:29 -!- boily has joined. 11:40:00 -!- lezsakdomi has joined. 11:45:43 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 11:59:45 -!- lezsakdomi has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 12:04:54 `? phasing 12:04:55 phasing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 12:04:55 `? phase 12:04:56 phase? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 12:27:04 -!- boily has quit (Quit: SLIPSTREAM CHICKEN). 12:36:57 ``` ln -svf allsets-2017-09-20.txt share/mtg/allsets.txt 12:36:59 ​'share/mtg/allsets.txt' -> 'allsets-2017-09-20.txt' 12:38:32 `card-by-name walk the 12:38:32 Walk the Aeons \ 4UU \ Sorcery \ Buyback--Sacrifice three Islands. (You may sacrifice three Islands in addition to any other costs as you cast this spell. If you do, put this card into your hand as it resolves.) \ Target player takes an extra turn after this one. \ TSP-R \ \ Walk the Plank \ BB \ Sorcery \ Destroy target non-Merfolk creature. \ XL 12:38:36 `card-by-name walk the plank 12:38:37 Walk the Plank \ BB \ Sorcery \ Destroy target non-Merfolk creature. \ XLN-U 12:39:59 `? xln 12:40:00 xln? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 12:40:31 @google mtg xln 12:40:32 https://magic.wizards.com/en/products/ixalan 12:40:41 (that worked) 12:42:07 int-e: that's the latest released expert set. I'm testing with the latest to show that updating the local copy of the card database worked. 12:47:31 ``` grep "^306\.4." share/mtg/rules.txt # I also updated the local copy of the comprehensive rules 12:47:32 306.4. Previously, planeswalkers were subject to a “planeswalker uniqueness rule” that stopped a player from controlling two planeswalkers of the same planeswalker type. This rule has been removed and planeswalker cards printed before this change have received errata in the Oracle card reference to have the legendary supertype. Like other legen 12:48:31 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 12:48:58 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 12:49:17 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Changing host). 12:49:17 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 13:02:02 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:25:08 -!- jaboja has joined. 14:00:31 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 14:03:35 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 14:17:12 -!- ATMunn has joined. 14:23:27 -!- LKoen has joined. 14:38:25 -!- Slereah has joined. 14:38:48 -!- Slereah has changed nick to Guest77438. 14:40:14 -!- Slereah__ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 14:54:25 -!- `^_^v has joined. 14:59:28 -!- jaboja has joined. 15:09:08 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 15:23:41 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:23:54 `scheme 15:23:54 Realms Befitting My Majesty 15:24:00 `5 scheme 15:24:02 1/1:This World Belongs to Me \ Nothing Can Stop Me Now \ My Undead Horde Awakens \ Delight in the Hunt \ No One Will Hear Your Cries 15:33:37 -!- sleffy has joined. 15:38:33 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 16:09:24 -!- jaboja has joined. 16:20:21 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:31:32 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 17:04:09 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:13:29 -!- jaboja has joined. 18:05:27 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:05:46 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 18:11:42 -!- `^_^v has joined. 18:13:46 -!- `^_^v has quit (Client Quit). 18:36:30 -!- `^_^v has joined. 18:36:31 -!- `^_^v has quit (Client Quit). 18:38:20 [wiki] [[Aheui]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53163&oldid=53162 * Oerjan * (+120) Use wayback 19:01:40 -!- `^_^v has joined. 19:06:26 -!- imode has joined. 19:29:30 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 19:32:33 `olist 1101 19:32:34 olist 1101: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas 19:34:41 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 19:38:13 -!- ais523 has joined. 19:40:42 -!- jaboja has joined. 19:48:57 -!- sleffy has joined. 19:56:01 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 20:11:33 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Disconnected by services). 20:20:53 -!- augur has joined. 20:43:48 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Disconnected by services). 20:44:33 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 20:47:20 -!- sleffy has joined. 20:48:05 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 20:55:21 -!- Kaynato has joined. 21:00:05 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:03:31 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:12:11 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 21:13:01 -!- augur has joined. 21:13:41 -!- Lung868 has joined. 21:17:50 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:24:11 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 21:24:11 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host). 21:24:11 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 21:33:24 -!- SigmundYx has joined. 21:51:39 -!- sleffy has joined. 21:52:48 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:54:44 -!- Kaynato has joined. 22:11:43 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:11:58 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 22:13:52 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:15:02 -!- ais523 has joined. 22:19:54 hi, ais 22:20:40 ais523: so I read the M:tG Ixalan update bulletin. I was surprised that they're making a new phasing card. that's one of those mechanics that are too complicated rules-wise to be worth bringing back, like banding. 22:21:06 wob_jonas: it's in a supplementary set, those are allowed to be more complex 22:21:31 although, hmm, is it the first new phasing card since the phasing rules changed? 22:21:55 I thought that mechanic was phased out. 22:21:58 still, reprinting phasing card would seem entirely reasonable in a Masters set, and only slightly out of place in Commander or Conspiracy 22:22:05 *reprinting a 22:22:13 so I expect creating a new one has similar considerations 22:22:44 ais523: you mean it won't be in Modern? yes, that's a good point, but still. 22:22:57 wob_jonas: right, nor in Standard 22:23:01 only Legacy, Vintage and Commander 22:23:21 (it's clearly the sort of card that was designed for multiplayer) 22:23:26 `card-by-name teferi's protection 22:23:27 Teferi's Protection \ 2W \ Instant \ Until your next turn, your life total can't change and you have protection from everything. All permanents you control phase out. (While they're phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist. They phase in before you untap during your untap step.) \ Exile Teferi's Protection. \ C17-R 22:23:54 ais523: reprinting is generally more easier to support than making entirely new cards 22:24:20 one-shot phasing is probably the easiest sort to understand 22:24:46 although this does apply to all sorts of permanents, increasing the chance of a confusing interaction 22:26:58 ais523: I don't see why one-shot would be much easier to understand than phasing every turn 22:27:10 also that reminder text explains most of the relevant cases by itself, the most likely ones that aren't explained are to do when an aura and the enchanted permanent have two different controllers 22:27:35 wob_jonas: because "X phases out" needs fewer definitions than "Phasing", the keyword 22:28:03 sort of. 22:28:38 except for the part that it happens at instant speed now. 22:28:53 so there's more potential interactions with other spells. 22:29:00 or with combat. 22:29:27 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 22:32:43 Mind you, I also think that permanents becoming a copy of an object is too complicated rules-wise, and so is making permanents lose all abilities, yet Wizards still keep printing them (in Modern at rare). 22:33:17 clone effects are popular enough that Wizards wants to make them work, I guess 22:33:41 it isn't too conceptually complex in the common case, you assume that the copy was printed as being identical to the copied card for as long as the copy effect lasts 22:33:50 the main issues come in special cases, like copying a DFC 22:34:02 (Actually the latter in uncommon too, and was in common in Lorwyn.) 22:34:47 -!- Lung868 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:35:55 ais523: yes, but even among clone effects, which are difficult already, an already existing permanent temporarily becoming a copy is slightly more difficult than just making token copies or having a permanent etb as a copy and remaining a copy forever. 22:36:25 And yes, the main issues come in special cases, but there are lots of different types of special cases, and they come up in recent sets too. 22:37:01 Although I must admit that they eliminated one special case entirely, namely the old rules for Primal Clay, which they replaced with simple to understand new rules. 22:37:04 Retroactively. 22:38:35 So now Primal Clay and two other cards just set its own p/t and abilities, just like levelers; as opposed to setting the whole copiable values, like split cards, flip cards, double-faced cards, morph, do. 22:44:14 -!- imode has joined. 22:44:16 Oh, that reminds me, a rules question. I have a Horned Turtle (vanilla) in play. Can I resolve Artificial Evolution on it in such a way as to replace all instances of Sliver with Wizard, then much later, Cytoshape that turtle to a Predatory Sliver to have it grant a bonus to all my Wizards? 22:45:38 wob_jonas: that's just a layers question, isn't it? 22:45:52 and I'm fairly sure that copy applies before text change, so it should work 22:45:57 (I'm asking about current rules, even if I sometimes say "in play" instead of "on the battlefield") 22:46:25 ais523: no, not only that. I'm not sure if choosing Sliver is a valid choice at all if that word doesn't currently occur on the target object. 22:47:11 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 22:47:14 `card-by-name artificial evolution 22:47:14 Artificial Evolution \ U \ Instant \ Change the text of target spell or permanent by replacing all instances of one creature type with another. The new creature type can't be Wall. (This effect lasts indefinitely.) \ ONS-R 22:47:29 hmm, it's unclear from the wording, I assume there'd be a ruling on it 22:48:03 04/10/2004 Can target a card with no appropriate words on it, or even one with no words at all. 22:48:05 yep, there's a ruling 22:48:22 ais523: that only says "can target". it doesn't say what happens at resolution. 22:48:44 well it clearly isn't countered on resolution 22:48:44 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 22:48:55 and there's no rule that says that effects aren't created just because they couldn't do anything 22:49:04 when I set the target, it won't check whether choices at resolution are valid or actions at resolution can be carried out 22:49:36 it surely won't get *countered*, I only wonder if it's such that there's no valid choices so the action is ignored, or, in this case, the only valid choice is Turtle 22:50:13 ais523: no, but there are rules saying that in some case when I make choices at resolution, I can't choose ones that are impossible 22:50:31 that applies for "you may" choices at least 22:50:41 even if it's not about paying costs 22:50:54 but two alternative non-pay actions 22:51:50 but it's possible that that doesn't apply for this choice, and even more likely that I can choose Sliver even if it doesn't appear in the text of the card 22:52:38 this is a comparable situation to casting "target permanent gets +1/+1" on a land; I'd expect that to work 22:52:42 although I'm not sure if it's possible at the moment 22:52:51 oh right, there's a situation with Vehicles 22:52:58 where you can increase their stats before they're animated 22:53:10 even if it's not impossible, I wonder if "one creature type" refers only to a creature type that appears in the text 22:53:35 `card-by-name gearshift ace 22:53:35 Gearshift Ace \ 1W \ Creature -- Dwarf Pilot \ 2/1 \ First strike \ Whenever Gearshift Ace crews a Vehicle, that Vehicle gains first strike until end of turn. \ KLD-U 22:54:14 "crews" triggers when the creature is tapped, not when the crew ability resolves 22:54:22 so the Vehicle gainst first strike first 22:54:24 then becomes a creature later on 22:54:41 granting first strike to an artifact doesn't make sense and yet the effect is still created 22:55:59 -!- SigmundYx has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:56:22 sure 22:56:23 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 22:56:47 -!- jaboja has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:04:22 and yes, card text is written very carefully so that when something grants p/t bonus/malus or first strike or trample to some other permanent, the text either explicitly requires a creature, or implicitly requires because it explicitly requires "blocking" in case of Glyph of Destruction. 23:07:20 I think the reason M:tG normally disallows things like giving a land +1/+1 is not because it doesn't work but because it would confuse players 23:07:27 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 23:07:35 doing it to a Vehicle is less confusing because at least you expect those to turn into creatures at some point 23:10:23 -!- jaboja has joined. 23:10:50 -!- boily has joined. 23:16:03 ais523: yes, and there are other edge cases, eg. if you use an external animator, then Chronatog Totem can give itself +3/+3 after the animator is cancelled 23:18:20 or any number of creature like Stonewood Invoker could give itself p/t bonus in a way that's still resolved after it's turned to a noncreature by Soul Sculptor 23:19:03 because when creatures give *themselves* p/t bonus or first strike or trample, then the text generally doesn't explicitly check that it's still a creature 23:22:58 -!- augur has joined. 23:24:25 -!- augur_ has joined. 23:27:42 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 23:28:41 -!- augur_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:49:13 -!- augur has joined. 23:50:42 -!- augur_ has joined. 23:53:33 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:54:57 -!- augur_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 23:56:51 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 23:59:13 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined.