< 1506125421 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleffy: Mill talk on IPC in San Jose in a couple of weeks. < 1506125445 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoaaaaa < 1506125454 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably can't make it but whoaaaaa < 1506125463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, whoa, man < 1506125464 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'know? < 1506125503 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoaaaaaaa < 1506126468 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506127208 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506127461 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506127487 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506128740 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506128809 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506129123 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506129351 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506129420 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506130337 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506130418 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506131212 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1506131264 0 :olsner_!?@? 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NICK :Nein < 1506135463 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1506135464 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506135465 0 :Nein!?@? NICK :Bowserinator < 1506135466 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506135631 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506135696 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 QUIT :Quit: See ya! o/ < 1506135732 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1506135996 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1506136092 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506136246 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One golf course in this computer game is "Par 3 Golf Course", but actually it is some par 4 also, and the total par is 60 < 1506136275 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like to go golfing in the rain? < 1506137156 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1506137224 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506137460 0 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1506137717 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried loading one DOS game on my Linux computer and now the level editor is not work properly. It won't save properly, but the game itself is otherwise working OK. < 1506137725 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what is wrong with it please? < 1506137813 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works fine on a real DOS computer. < 1506140145 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506140550 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506141073 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506141245 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506142096 0 :Marcela_Gandara!~Marcela_G@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara/x-7649558 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1506142202 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1506142295 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@unaffiliated/marcela-gandara* < 1506142301 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1506143369 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506143839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1506145258 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506145535 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506146065 0 :ski!~ski@remote11.chalmers.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506147409 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506147527 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1506147745 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1506148526 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506148781 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506148956 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506149425 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1506151777 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506151812 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1506152045 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506152191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SimPPLe14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53107&oldid=53106 5* 03YourDeathIsComing 5* (+54) 10 < 1506154232 0 :Antoxyde!~Antoxyde@AAnnecy-652-1-452-73.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1506155031 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506155202 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1506155296 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506155379 0 :zseri!~zseri@2a02:810a:8680:1a14:e890:2cbe:3d2a:b72a JOIN :#esoteric < 1506155383 0 :zseri!~zseri@2a02:810a:8680:1a14:e890:2cbe:3d2a:b72a PART #esoteric : < 1506155428 0 :zseri!~zseri@2a02:810a:8680:1a14:e890:2cbe:3d2a:b72a JOIN :#esoteric < 1506155860 0 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506156302 0 :APic!~apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1506156572 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is for some ungodly reason writing an ed-like text editor in Haskell
< 1506156778 0 :MrBismuth!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c801:d7f:77e1:92be QUIT :Quit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIIqYqtR1lY -- Suicide is Painless - Johnny Mandel < 1506159251 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1506159566 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1506160168 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506160430 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I create a language called brainfuarrrk? < 1506160491 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be an extensible brainf*ck < 1506160600 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea came to me now, because of a word filter, to add replace rules to brainfuck, which'd function similarly to functions or macros < 1506160648 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think lots of languages along those lines have been created already < 1506160655 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to look at the existing attempts for inspiration < 1506160666 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc that doesn't necessarily mean that you couldn't come up with something better < 1506160685 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc < 1506160692 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it doesn't take too much work to make replace rules Turing-complete on their own (see, e.g., /// or Thue) < 1506160707 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe you don't even need the BF part of the language < 1506160769 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the brainfuck part is practical < 1506160788 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think brainfuck can really be described as "practical" < 1506160819 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main impracticality in Thue is purely that it's bad at exchanging information < 1506160835 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not practical to write in but practical to interpret < 1506160873 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :add anything that makes it capable of doing that, i.e. moving to a language like Retina, and suddenly you have something that's very powerful (from the point of view of "it's easy to see how to write programs in this") < 1506160913 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's surely easier to write a substitution language than a substitution + tape language? < 1506160952 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easyness doesn't bother me < 1506160980 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is still easy < 1506161023 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wad thinking of BF arithmetic the other day < 1506161069 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I came up with a new operator for repetition < 1506161089 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would substitute the loop rules < 1506161119 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it written down < 1506161268 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thue looks great < 1506161322 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my substitutions would be on symbols though < 1506161356 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is thue bad at exchanging information? < 1506161465 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very hard to write a Thue program that takes a string of consonants followed by a string of vowels, and returns the same string with the two halves swapped (vowels first then consonants), for example < 1506161476 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's even harder to write a program that takes a string of letters and reverses it < 1506161497 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both are possible, but much more difficult than they really should be, you have to write a very large number of cases < 1506161716 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1506161757 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… just thinking about this, a 2-dimensional Thue would be much better at this sort of thing < 1506161775 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then you could move the data round each other rather than through < 1506161795 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, bedtime < 1506161798 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1506162310 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I'd call the former tedious, not hard, since it's not difficult to implement a stable sort by swapping ) < 1506162367 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reversal otoh, hmm. that's not even possible without marking the end of the string somehow or using a new set of symbols for the result. < 1506162871 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be possible but tedious again < 1506163148 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure exactly how though, if there are no accumulators < 1506163261 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1506163303 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1506163351 0 :Capaverde!bade3c27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.186.222.60.39 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1506163666 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like this... oh too late. http://sprunge.us/HiBR < 1506166411 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@188.188.67.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506166519 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506166641 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506167117 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@188.188.67.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1506167399 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@188.189.74.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506169491 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@188.189.74.65 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1506175229 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506175533 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1506175590 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506175695 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506176787 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1506176933 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1506177193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07XTW14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53108&oldid=53100 5* 03Zseri 5* (-131) 10 < 1506177997 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506178114 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506178159 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506178260 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1506179087 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1506179290 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1506179852 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1506180171 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506180318 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1506180621 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506180867 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506180996 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1506181396 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506182709 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506183707 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506183826 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506185455 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506185978 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1506188738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Essays14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=53109 5* 03Zseri 5* (+82) 10Created page with "* [[Essays/A_Defence_of_Brainfuck_Derivatives|A Defence of Brainfuck Derivatives]]" < 1506190193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TEWNLSWAC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53110&oldid=53066 5* 03Zseri 5* (+60) 10 < 1506190251 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506190668 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ JOIN :#esoteric < 1506190824 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concept: function whose local variable scope is defined at creation, rather than run, time. the scope would be per-thread, avoiding race conditions, but a function would be able to access local variables it modified in an earlier call. < 1506190893 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :With that would also be reified scopes themselves - scopes would be objects containing (1) an associative array mapping local variable names to their values, and (2) a reference to the scope they were initialized in, which ties in with the above concept and naturally givers rise to closures. < 1506191780 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506191915 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506193107 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506193191 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get why the norwegian.com website quotes me airplane tickets sometimes in USD and sometimes in GBP currency. I was logged in with the same account. < 1506193209 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care whether they give me one or the other, but changing confuses me. < 1506193967 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1506194033 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised when it quoted me with tickets that seemed to cost 70% the price it gave a few days ago. Until I read the currency. < 1506194053 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The price didn't actually change significantly. < 1506194098 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter what I pay in, because it's an online bank card payment, and the ban < 1506194106 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :k charges very cheap rates for currency conversion for that. < 1506194239 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rates are very high for direct money transfer in any foreign currency, so even if I can nominally have an account containing foreign currency at the bank cheaply, I can't actually send it to anyone or pay with it or pretty much anything useful. < 1506194263 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for just online payment with my HUF bank card with any currency they support, they convert cheaply. < 1506195378 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web design question. I want to add a spinner loading animation to my javascript website. I want it to be Coriolis-correct, so spin it counterclockwise on the north hemisphere, clockwise on the south hemisphere. What's the best way to autodetect the likely hemisphere of the user before he sets the option explicitly in his account? < 1506195432 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I can autodetect the user's preferred language from the Accept-Language HTTP header, but I don't know if there's a HTTP header or some javascript query for the user's hemisphere. < 1506195474 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need his full geographical location, and I understand that that would be more personal information that most of my users would be willing to share. < 1506196180 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make up a HTTP header for it and then try to detect based on the IP address if nobody sends that header < 1506198967 0 :Cale!~cale@pool-100-37-183-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1506199017 0 :Cale!~cale@pool-100-37-183-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506199125 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1506199208 0 :Cale_!~cale@pool-100-37-183-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506199450 0 :Cale!~cale@pool-100-37-183-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1506199632 0 :Cale__!~cale@pool-100-37-183-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506199823 0 :Cale_!~cale@pool-100-37-183-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506199857 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506199939 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayis! < 1506199945 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I think your average web developer would use an existing geolocation system and then just round to hemisphere, plus provide a setting somewhere for overriding it for the inevitable misclassifications. < 1506199981 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't care what average web developers do. < 1506199983 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ok. < 1506200187 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the commercial IP-based geolocation service providers has a "lite" version under CC BY-SA, I know that much. < 1506200277 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1506200286 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1506201616 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506201665 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid top-posters repeating the whole email recursively rather than just the relevant bits. And the google mail interface actually encourages that stupid habit. < 1506201730 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: so does Outlook < 1506201745 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think is probably more or less singlehandedly responsible for encouraging that sort of posting style < 1506201797 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Heirlom-Mailx myself, which also repeats the entire message but the reply message is on the bottom. < 1506201892 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: outlook doesn't encourage it as much as google mail. google mail actively hides quoted lines and sigs by default, both when composing a mail and when reading a mail, in the latter case agressively by looking up each line in the thread, which often has false positives. < 1506201914 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care if the reply is above or below the new content, that's mostly irrelevant. < 1506201935 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repeating the entire message is fine, because I like deleting stuff, so repeating everything and then deleting most of it is more fun than copying just some lines. < 1506201984 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I even thought of an eso feature in a text editor where the only copy-paste feature is duplicating the whole contents of the buffer or appending a copy of a file to after a buffer, and then you just delete the range you don't need. < 1506202047 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would have to be supported by a feature where if you duplicate the buffer, the marks get corresponding marks created in the copy, and you can jump to either the original or the copy version of a mark easily as you wish. < 1506202330 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1506202415 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does vim have the ability to copy marks from one buffer to another one? Does it have the ability to save marks to a file or load them from a file or pipe? < 1506202444 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure if it has a built-in command for doing that, but I think its scripting language is powerful enough that you could write a command to do that < 1506202468 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't really know. I don't know much about advanced vim. < 1506202483 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a vim channel on freenode, you could try to ask there. < 1506203272 0 :zseri!~zseri@2a02:810a:8680:1a14:e890:2cbe:3d2a:b72a QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1506203719 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506204936 0 :GeekDude!~G33kDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.8 < 1506204939 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1506205298 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! I'm helping someone on the internet in something I know nothing about but could track down info with some internet searches. And it's a person who could help me in my previous stupid queries. The internet works! < 1506205573 0 :J_Arcane!sid119274@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iuqejsljqjmivvsb PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://vm01.unsoft.hu/~np/basic/latest/ptsvubas.cc < 1506205645 0 :GeekDude!~G33kDude@unaffiliated/g33kdude JOIN :#esoteric < 1506207640 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1841@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.65 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1506207725 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506208469 0 :Cale_!~cale@pool-100-37-183-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506208481 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Charli9 5* 10New user account < 1506208666 0 :Cale__!~cale@pool-100-37-183-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506208710 0 :Cale__!~cale@pool-100-37-183-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506208760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53111&oldid=53104 5* 03Charli9 5* (+181) 10Introduced myself < 1506208777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Glass14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=53112&oldid=41876 5* 03Charli9 5* (+80) 10Added link to WIP compiler < 1506208926 0 :Cale_!~cale@pool-100-37-183-165.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1506208951 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98627.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1506209228 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1506209335 0 :Cale__!?@? NICK :Cale < 1506209551 0 :impomatic!~digital_w@host109-150-0-85.range109-150.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1506210915 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds