< 1501805227 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1501805716 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1501806141 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ecjcrbqyxzjlubqj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1501807669 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501807688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52653&oldid=52615 5* 03TheZipCreator 5* (+125) 10Put an introduction < 1501807896 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:TheZipCreator14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52654 5* 03TheZipCreator 5* (+82) 10Created page with "Hi. I came to Esolangs because I was interested in Esoteric Programming Languages." < 1501809484 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1501809805 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if any OSs have filesystems that support "Unicode files". < 1501809827 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Unicode file is a sequence of Unicode characters, like how an ordinary file is a sequence of bytes. < 1501809836 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't write invalid Unicode to a Unicode file. < 1501809855 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a record-based filesystem, but one that only supports unicode records? < 1501809912 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Typespam14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52655 5* 03TheZipCreator 5* (+1642) 10Created page with "Typespam is a language created by [[User:TheZipCreator|TheZipCreator]]. It's a cell-based language similar to [[Brainfuck]] but it has some important changes. 1. The tape st..." < 1501809919 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't Windows file names UTF-16? < 1501809948 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc just UTF-8. < 1501809970 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, I'm wrong. UTF-16. < 1501810008 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Typespam14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52656&oldid=52655 5* 03TheZipCreator 5* (-15) 10/* What is an instance? */ < 1501810081 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Typespam14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52657&oldid=52656 5* 03TheZipCreator 5* (+3) 10 < 1501810285 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: I guess you might say that, if you would also say that today's filesystems are record-based filesystems which only support byte-string records. < 1501810341 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52658&oldid=52624 5* 03TheZipCreator 5* (+15) 10/* Non-alphabetic */ < 1501810406 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52659&oldid=52658 5* 03TheZipCreator 5* (+15) 10/* T */ < 1501810452 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52660&oldid=52659 5* 03TheZipCreator 5* (+0) 10/* Non-alphabetic */ < 1501810638 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it can be idea having filesystems having multiple kind of records. It is something like that (but there is no Unicode records), such as byte strings, directory listings, and devices, for example. < 1501810696 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we're ALL cyborgs? < 1501810792 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well, I mean.. I have glasses, does that count. < 1501810981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52661&oldid=52563 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+16) 10 < 1501811686 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:fd6a:7dc5:c053:18e7:8b79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: even worse... what if none of us are cyborgs? *shudder* < 1501812289 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION contemplates building a game that takes place inside of a binary tree.
< 1501812375 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd travel from node to node, with multiple players being able to occupy the same node at once. subtrees could qualify as different kinds of environments/biomes. dungeons could be collections of valid paths.. < 1501812487 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does rogue display "I don't have any options, oh my!"? At least the DOS version does. < 1501812575 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1501812581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:ehlist//ehlist is update notification for the Everyday Heroes webcomic. http://eheroes.smackjeeves.com/ \ comonad//Comonads are just monads in the dual category. They are hard to get into. \ @messages-loud//@messages-loud @messages-fond / @messages-flood @messages-bond // @messages-lousy @messages-sound / @messages-lost @messages-found // @mess < 1501812596 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1501812597 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:ages-proud @messages-bold / @messages-good @messages-gold \ tmux//tmux is a way to have tabs in your terminal without having bash barf all over your screen. It allows the character 🀤 to appear. \ pokemon//A pokemon is a monster that you keep in your pocket. Taneb invented them. < 1501812606 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? comonads < 1501812607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comonads are just monads in the dual category. They are hard to get into. < 1501812881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Esolangsme123 5* 10New user account < 1501813081 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501813149 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, the user manual for this new kitchen mixer is a bit reckless. The overview section says "Apertures for inserting the tools" (where "tools" means the mixing bits that are in contact with the food). < 1501813177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of kitchen mixer is it? < 1501813182 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I get a kitchen mixer? < 1501813189 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I had more kitchen space. :-( < 1501813242 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "4 Aperture for inserting the tools". On figure A, that's correct. But if you accidentally look at figure B instead, there number 4 is a label for an image for how to insert the plug to an electric wall socket. < 1501813262 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they want people to try to insert the tools into the two holes of the wall socket? < 1501813386 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, "The maximum processing quantity is 500 g of flour and ingredients" -- no way. It mixes the food in a local way, it can't be limited. I'll totally use it for food in larger amount than that. < 1501813403 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: depends on what you want to cook < 1501813417 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a handheld kitchen mixer with no fixed chasis or bowl < 1501813424 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1501813430 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of what's-it-calleds. < 1501813441 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fancy ones that everyone says are very good. < 1501813531 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones that have a base and a bowl and possibly a lid? I don't know if they are good, possible, but I don't need one < 1501813591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe only their marketing is good. < 1501813610 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from that labeling thing, the manual is short and useful. < 1501813656 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I cook rarely and only simple things, so there are a lot of kitchen implements that I don't have and don't want. < 1501813668 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52662&oldid=52653 5* 03Esolangsme123 5* (+185) 10added ME < 1501813673 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07(P™TM™)™14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52663 5* 03Esolangsme123 5* (+1108) 10Created Page < 1501813693 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are some simple (vegetarian) things I should cook? < 1501813702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07(P™TM™)™14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52664&oldid=52663 5* 03Esolangsme123 5* (+1) 10 < 1501813725 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1501813861 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt there a bot written in Befunge in here? < 1501813871 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yo < 1501813871 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ( ( yeah yeah laughter < 1501813880 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501813883 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right. < 1501813887 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yo < 1501813887 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: ( ( but i laughter i gave it up thank goodness i never started < 1501813920 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: source < 1501813921 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: ' cause i missed it or they'll have commentators or whatever but < 1501813927 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt the sourcecode somewhere? :P < 1501813930 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: help < 1501813931 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: yeah it is yeah and actually the city i live about thirty five years so < 1501813932 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot < 1501813933 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah i've heard of some games that would be great < 1501813971 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: good afternoohq < 1501814584 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :array banana() { repeal three; } < 1501815038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52665&oldid=52191 5* 03Zzo38 5* (-487) 10RogueVM is being entirely rewritten < 1501815109 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so crazy how people could make these same food forty years ago without all these modern conveniences like electric mixer, plastic containers, heat-resistant silicone and teflon-coated vessells, and the shitton of pre-prepared food ingredients you can buy in shops. < 1501815707 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1501815720 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's 2this, what about 2that? < 1501815778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1501815832 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1501816310 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501816610 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1501816719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52666&oldid=52479 5* 03Manushand 5* (+19) 10/* Code execution */ < 1501816836 0 :http_GK1wmSU!~deep-book@129.232.221.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501816997 0 :http_GK1wmSU!~deep-book@129.232.221.173 PART #esoteric : < 1501817104 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52667&oldid=52666 5* 03Manushand 5* (+7) 10/* Hello, world! */ < 1501817449 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got another neural net going. It makes some interesting blended nicks currently. < 1501817580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52668&oldid=52667 5* 03Manushand 5* (+0) 10/* Fibonacci sequence */ < 1501817614 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :iis5233, zzh183, izt-23, HackEgibo, zzo38L, eeljan, oiis823, oerjaf, oeljanj, oerjat, zeejan, shabaly, oily, ois522, oi"sjan, toppavilion[1, \oren., hackEgon < 1501817641 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I wrote one program with MIX it will tell you what base it is using; the program is: " M B$ J OGA B= AE I E1 H R7 BE F A9BASE" (do not include the quotation marks, which aren't a valid character in MIX anyways) < 1501817654 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It pretty frequently outputs nicks with invalid characters in them, like oi"sjan. < 1501817944 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: what outputs such nicks? < 1501817968 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, neural net < 1501818681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `learn eeljan is oerjan's slippery twin. ) < 1501819188 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :banana < 1501819259 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- nick: ASfues_Cherican (Ping timeout: 255 shdeconds) #esoteric < 1501819262 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, nice try. < 1501819353 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: please stop it < 1501819397 0 :wob_jonas!b03f18c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.195 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1501819720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( bananjan ) < 1501819844 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501819995 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1501820120 0 :augur!~augur@104.236.181.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501820223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Fish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52669&oldid=52668 5* 03Manushand 5* (+120) 10/* Square root */ < 1501820821 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 < 1501820823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:1278) I mean, that's just the bare function. You throw some concurrency primitives in there and you're off to the races \ 392) doctor who. i saw part of one episode of that and it reminded me of buffy the vampire slayer. \ 560) Also you steal Berwick from us and then say you don't want it? Y < 1501820825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1501820826 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:ou stole it from us first! \ 898) okay so like do Or do not? no no do There is no do not. \ 1294) I once forgot what bin men were called Doing roughly 50% of a computer science degree, the only term I could think of was "garbage collector" < 1501823305 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any benefit to punching cards so that the fewest number of holes is punched? < 1501823402 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1501823906 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Funge-9814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52670&oldid=52652 5* 03Btiffin2017 5* (+3323) 10/* History */ < 1501823921 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501824086 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: more holes increased the likelihood of wear and tear causing the card to fail. Historic COBOL reserves the first 6 character positions and the last 8 positions of the 80 columns to not include code so that fraying of cards didn't cause production run problems. < 1501824410 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who/what is lambdabot and do I bother sending it a request to read the messages? < 1501824463 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :only you can answer that question < 1501824502 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1501824843 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btiffin: it's our resident haskell bot, and yes. < 1501824845 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops I did find a mistake in MIXPC still, that a field specification (0:0) is not working < 1501824878 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1501825271 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :btiffin: I did not know about avoiding fraying cards like that < 1501825401 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it uses different number of position to be avoiding for start end? < 1501826407 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read a message elsewhere someone says C build systems is terrible. Do you even need a build system? I have written C programs without needing a build system < 1501826426 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For small programs, that works, but when you get larger you start kinda needing one. < 1501826454 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, for smaller stuff "I expect you or your distributer to know how a compiler works" is fine. < 1501826526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Which build systems do you like? < 1501826537 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is scow. < 1501826544 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like bazel? < 1501826556 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, though I dislike it less than some others. < 1501826574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has all sorts of good ideas. < 1501826576 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for a notable search company, it actually does make sense. < 1501826579 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also some scow. < 1501826582 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just put the command for compiling at the top of the C code inside of a "#if 0" block, so it specifies all of the options you need < 1501826625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What don't you like about it, given the use case of one company's code kept in one repository? < 1501826735 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psuedo-python hackery, for one. :) < 1501826783 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like my way? < 1501826804 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think that it scales poorly, but for smaller programs it's fairly reasonable. < 1501826904 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I'd like a better language to express build files in. < 1501826982 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of several pseudo-Python languages developed at a particular company that people aren't very fond of. < 1501827009 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also am a bit grumpy at mono-repos in general, TBH. < 1501827074 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even for larger programs you can make dependencies and automatic including keeping track of which files are modified and need to be recompiled; each source file can still contain its own build script, and can use "touch" and "test" commands to determine if it needs to call other files to compile them too, in case they have been changed. < 1501827217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Why? < 1501827221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're the best. < 1501827264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What if your program is too big to use touch and test? < 1501827347 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Could you give the example? < 1501827401 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for some public numbers from Google about their thing. < 1501827408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember seeing them but I don't remember where. < 1501827414 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, sometimes the compilation graph is very large. < 1501827442 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Profoundly. < 1501827471 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like Daniel Bernstein's redo system? < 1501827490 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO redo has some quirks, but I at least like the idea. < 1501827506 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pretty normal with djb. < 1501827516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I like many of the ideas of bazel. < 1501827518 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There's some funny stuff here, but I like the direction you're going in." < 1501827519 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Daniel Bernstein's redo system < 1501827535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a lot of them could be adapted to a non-monorepo world. < 1501827559 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of working on a thing like that. But then I realized how scow the non-monorepo world is. < 1501827599 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38; not sure why the start was 6 characters and the end was 8; but that form still sticks today when using a mainframe editor; the last 8 columns are automatically filled in with sequence numbers. < 1501827787 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the sequence numbers can help if the cards are mixed up? < 1501827873 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan; worth talking to lambdabot, thanks < 1501827893 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On MIX, when reading numbers, the character code is modulo ten to determine the digit; digits "0" to "9" have codes 30 to 39, and a space is 00, so if you punch a space instead of zero then it is punching one less hole, but it can still be read as zero. < 1501828016 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the original intent yep, if a box of cards hit the floor it was a long drawn out process to get things back in order < 1501828133 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure why autonumbering is still in z/OS editors; I think it makes programmers over 50 feel comfortable < 1501828254 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Standard MIX has no way to reorder cards, although you could make a program that will punch a copy of the deck with the cards in the correct order. < 1501828515 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the much maligned ALTER verb in COBOL was partly because of the hassles involved in inserting lines in card decks. Easier to just a few cards at the end that rerouted a jump to a new jump (that rerouted to a new jump, that rerouted to a new jump...) sounds bad, but the alternative was often worse < 1501828549 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, so that is why they put that in there < 1501828683 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Partly, perhaps mostly, ALTER is also awesome for writing state machines though. But for COBOL is was mostly because some regulation changed and the 3am run had to follow a different set of laws than the day before < 1501828715 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1501828875 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of a fellow that misses his card punch; so much so that he has added lines to his Hercules MVS emulator to kick an audio track of a punch reader when he submits JCL < 1501829122 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I much prefer the fancy modern cathode ray tube interface. It's like living in the future. < 1501829219 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1501829621 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use a LCD monitor though rather than CRT < 1501829656 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(LCD works best at the native resolution and works badly at other resolutions, while CRT seems to work equally well at any resolution, however) < 1501829683 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501829730 0 :sdhand!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in < 1501829767 0 :sdhandsucks!~sam@2001:41c8:51:10d:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1501829808 0 :sdhandsucks!~sam@2001:41c8:51:10d:: QUIT :Client Quit < 1501829823 0 :sdhand!~sam@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1501829842 0 :sdhand!~sam@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Changing host < 1501829842 0 :sdhand!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko JOIN :#esoteric < 1501830905 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1501831771 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501832584 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501832825 0 :augur!~augur@104.236.181.226 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1501834398 0 :augur!~augur@162.245.20.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501834583 0 :augur_!~augur@162.245.20.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501834673 0 :augur!~augur@162.245.20.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1501834837 0 :augur_!~augur@162.245.20.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1501836430 0 :augur!~augur@162.245.20.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501836606 0 :http_GK1wmSU!~deep-book@61-68.furanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1501836688 0 :augur!~augur@162.245.20.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501836749 0 :http_GK1wmSU!~deep-book@61-68.furanet.com PART #esoteric : < 1501837191 0 :PattuX!uid129971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ixmobtczcpuswajk JOIN :#esoteric < 1501837903 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Funge-9814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52671&oldid=52670 5* 03Btiffin2017 5* (+202) 10/* History, wording fix ups, added more links */ < 1501838666 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1501838964 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1501839156 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501839388 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501839669 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1501841471 0 :btiffin!~chatzilla@CPE0c473de9ff81-CM0c473de9ff80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [SeaMonkey 2.46/20170120202656] < 1501841670 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1501841689 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1501841950 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501843208 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501844843 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1501845274 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1501846516 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501847348 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1501847349 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic//The magic was in you all along. < 1501847598 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't seem very wise < 1501847606 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits magic < 1501847613 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän < 1501847824 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1501847828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg magic < 1501847838 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6054:2015-10-10 learn The magic was in you all along. < 1501847905 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the etymology of dowg anyway... I guess I can trace it to doag, but then I'm lost. < 1501847923 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dowg = wisdom doag < 1501847931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doag = hoag that shows date < 1501847947 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hog = hg log < 1501847957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the link between hog and hoag < 1501847987 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/hog < 1501847988 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag is hog with --removed, so it shows a more complete history < 1501847989 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hackego.esolangs.org/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/hog < 1501847992 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/hog < 1501847993 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlnp --template "{desc}\n" -- "$@" < 1501848014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a story called _The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag_ that it's probably named after. < 1501848036 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the story is all that good among the stories in the book I read it in. < 1501848089 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the book was named after it anyway. < 1501848093 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1501848136 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should invent better names. That would help. < 1501848140 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :invent-e < 1501848148 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :inventions-e < 1501848157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :invent-eions? < 1501848178 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like invent-e. < 1501848340 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1501848362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501849114 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1501849116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infidel//An infidel is someone who doesn't support the great former leader. Socialismo o muerte! < 1501849452 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1501849747 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: UNICORN CHICKEN < 1501850554 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501850743 0 :http_GK1wmSU!~deep-book@2e.80.01a8.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1501850746 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :contest is starting soon < 1501850835 0 :http_GK1wmSU!~deep-book@2e.80.01a8.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com PART #esoteric : < 1501850877 0 :augur!~augur@162.245.20.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501851175 0 :augur!~augur@162.245.20.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1501851736 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501851745 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the ICFP contest is supposed to have started < 1501851752 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it doesn't seem to have actually started, e.g. the problem specification isn't up < 1501851757 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know what's going on? < 1501851968 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, up now < 1501852005 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's got misconfigured https (the cert is for the wrong subdomain), how typical :-) < 1501852802 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this game, as currently written (apparently the spec is going to change), is broken in the two-player case < 1501852809 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's trivial to prove that the second player can't possibly win with optimal play < 1501852821 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the hope is that the maps will be so large that the optimal strategy can't easily be calculated < 1501852902 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and the top menu entry "Problem Specification" points to a useless page that doesn't seem to contain the problem spec < 1501852913 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1501852919 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spec is linked from the homepage though < 1501852923 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1501852925 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just rufe < 1501852927 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rude < 1501852932 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people might be refreshing that useless page < 1501852937 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game, at present, is basically generalised Hex < 1501852945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with a different scoring system < 1501852972 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hex is hard enough to win (except for very small board sizes) < 1501853071 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1501853410 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I predict this to be a task where functional languages will do fairly badly; pretty much any algorithm can be improved via adding extra brute-forcing < 1501853416 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that raw efficiency will be very important < 1501853780 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! so there are more example maps than the ones shown in the visualizer pulldown menu: http://punter.inf.ed.ac.uk/maps/ < 1501853836 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, and the maps used for judging may well be ones that aren't publicly available < 1501853863 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1501854026 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501855056 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they silently updated the spec pdf < 1501855063 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the change? < 1501855071 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there's a mailing list < 1501855078 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I tried and failed to subscribe to < 1501855083 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there are updates there < 1501855085 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :submission procedure < 1501855088 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the archives are only visible to subscribers… < 1501855091 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good, the old one was terrible < 1501855103 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe, I didn't check the mailing list < 1501855128 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I don't see a change < 1501855144 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still want submissions via Google Docs (which requires a Google account) < 1501855146 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have version 1.1, what version are you seeing? < 1501855166 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "task-1.0.pdf" < 1501855174 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently on top of everything else, there's a caching issue < 1501855194 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I /still/ don't see a change with the new link to task.pdf < 1501855197 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, still google docs, but now there's a link to a registry form. The registry form asks for the list of names of members, and it's not clear to me how to add more members to your team later. < 1501855224 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh github hosted, mm... in which case you get a cached version unless logged into github? not sure. < 1501855233 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501855233 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'd need to form a team with someone else just so that they can submit for me :-P < 1501855240 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the filename is the same, look inside the PDF under the title] < 1501855261 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: it /isn't/ the same (task-1.0.pdf versus task.pdf), but I can see a 1.1 under the title < 1501855267 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess this is the most recent version < 1501855274 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently you can add members later < 1501855428 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oxford city center"... I guess the mining sites are the colleges? < 1501855442 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where else would you produce lambdas? :-D < 1501855465 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1501855823 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, cute, but I have no time < 1501856126 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:d503:371e:6afe:995b JOIN :#esoteric < 1501856728 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1501856782 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? code < 1501856783 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],[5,5,5,3,53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58,22.,1985,10.301350435,1555466973690094680980000956080767,13720946704494913791885940266665466978579582015128512190078... < 1501856799 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that. < 1501856886 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that? < 1501856904 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg code < 1501856911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5674:2015-06-24 echo \'[11,11,11,15,15,23,12],[5,5,5,3,53,45,16,26,00,20,15,16,22,25,45,91,32,11,15,27,06,01,11,01,47,22,30,13,43,21,11,13,29,61,65,17,19,12,28,17,11,01,23,20,16,20,81,18,32,25,58,22.,1985,10.301350435,1555466973690094680980000956080767,13720946704494913791885940266665466978579582015128512190078...\' > wisdom/code \ 5658: < 1501856977 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, it's a secret code... < 1501856989 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it's something generated by a neural net... I mean, a layered unit net. < 1501857048 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's another bit of wisdom from the LUN: < 1501857056 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:21:30 `? falras < 1501857056 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:38:19 perl --electries internet \ topic-nedwime \ wisdom/welcome no automatic squirt *wmpcch/ [Thundrey 04lian 06!echo 07knottocoin 09pauseFulgeberwarnin:14bag < 1501857631 0 :zseri!4d16fd4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.22.253.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501857635 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1879@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.121 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1501857923 0 :furozo!~u0_a220@192.3.186.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501858418 0 :furozo_!~u0_a220@173.254.255.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501858419 0 :furozo_!~u0_a220@173.254.255.142 QUIT :Client Quit < 1501858429 0 :furozo!~u0_a220@192.3.186.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1501860459 0 :augur!~augur@162.245.20.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501860704 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've decided not to participate in the ICFP contest < 1501860724 0 :augur!~augur@162.245.20.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501860736 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fairly interesting task but I don't feel confident I'd do well on it < 1501860752 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1501860824 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a number of possible approaches and I'd be depressed if I picked the wrong one < 1501861088 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1501862927 0 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1501865672 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:d503:371e:6afe:995b QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1501866728 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1206:45b8:4a31:fe:7861:5ed:8fe6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501867121 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1206:45b8:4a31:fe:7861:5ed:8fe6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1501867412 0 :PattuX!uid129971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ixmobtczcpuswajk QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1501867641 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501867705 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1501867841 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501868515 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@71.189.202.62.dynamic.cgnat.res.cust.swisscom.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1501869200 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BILL GATES IS A RAPIST CONSOLEWARS DOT COM < 1501869502 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@71.189.202.62.dynamic.cgnat.res.cust.swisscom.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501869698 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIM COOK IS A RAPIST SMARTPHONEWARS DOT COM < 1501869969 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1501870038 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501870099 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@71.189.202.62.dynamic.cgnat.res.cust.swisscom.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1501870356 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... what if each line of a program is first parsed as C, BASIC, and python, and then whichever parse is most correct is used < 1501870456 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :extending this, you could have a syntax that is deliberately ambiguous, but the parser chooses whichever parse is longest < 1501870650 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@71.189.202.62.dynamic.cgnat.res.cust.swisscom.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1501870700 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@71.189.202.62.dynamic.cgnat.res.cust.swisscom.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1501870914 0 :augur!~augur@162.245.20.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501870950 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@71.189.202.62.dynamic.cgnat.res.cust.swisscom.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501871188 0 :augur!~augur@162.245.20.162 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1501871385 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1206:45b8:4a31:fe:7861:5ed:8fe6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501871529 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1501872323 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501872539 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1206:45b8:4a31:fe:7861:5ed:8fe6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1501872856 0 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you trying to get banned for spamming? :) < 1501872996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501873032 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501873075 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1501873103 0 :hppavilion[0]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1501873611 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1501873713 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501873719 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ < 1501873731 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p/ < 1501874072 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:fd6a:7dc5:c053:18e7:8b79 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1501874102 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:fd6a:f408:fd26:a671:ea81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501874276 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501874523 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/world/europe/denmark-prince-henrik-burial-wishes.html < 1501874552 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello humans < 1501874558 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evening, homo sapiens < 1501874585 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :may you be in a pleasant state of affairs, specimens of the subspecies of homo sapiens sapiens < 1501874758 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, if any of you are present at your electronic devices < 1501874986 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, hppavilion[1] has gotta be here at least...? < 1501874998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am. I always am. < 1501875004 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1501875021 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :please stop it, rdococ < 1501875070 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's clear to me that hppavilion[1] is, indeed present - he does not have a bouncer, and his username is obviously here. it is not my fault if I want to talk to him. < 1501875114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ: You are being a tad annoying in your way of going about it though < 1501875118 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just saying. < 1501875196 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is one of the only channels in which people find me annoying anymore. I would chalk it down to differences in perspective. < 1501875231 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1501875334 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was considering a self-modifying event-based system today. < 1501875437 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1501875497 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is simple: the user could trigger events, and those events could modify the behaviours of other events - as opposed to keeping track of the program state with variables, you'd modify each event to act as if it was in the intended state. < 1501875869 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im feeling lucky. Mixture { chemicals: [Chemical { name: "H2", moles: 0.5, mole_mass: 0.0000000000000000000000033474472, matter_state: Gas,specific_heat: 14.2, is_pseudo: false }, Chemical { name: "O2", moles: 0.75, mole_mass: 0.000000000000000000000026566962,matter_state: Gas, specific_heat: 0.915, is_pseudo: false }, Chemical { name: "H2O", moles: 0.5, mole_mass: 0.00000000000000000000002991507361, matter_state: Liquid, specific_heat: 4.814, < 1501875869 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is_pseudo: false }], temperature: 802.8550270045699, volume: 1 } < 1501875877 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know if that is the correct reaction? < 1501875896 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1 mole H2 1 mole O2 burning, with only half of it burning per universal 'update') < 1501875899 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1501877910 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1501878620 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1501879580 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@71.189.202.62.dynamic.cgnat.res.cust.swisscom.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1501880173 0 :zseri!4d16fd4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.22.253.79 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1501880508 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1501881678 0 :zseri!4d16fd4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.22.253.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501881733 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501882022 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1501882208 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@71.189.202.62.dynamic.cgnat.res.cust.swisscom.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501882225 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1206:45b8:4a31:fe:7861:5ed:8fe6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501883357 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im currently trying to wrap my head around befunge, because why not :p < 1501883365 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on a fizzbuzz program right now < 1501883381 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure its been done before, but sometimes you have to reinvent the wheel, you know? :p < 1501883429 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far i've got a thing that counts from 1 to 100 and prints it out < 1501883435 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its even got newlines! :D < 1501883808 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge <3 < 1501884116 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1206:45b8:4a31:fe:7861:5ed:8fe6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1501884741 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATMunn, may want to look at fungot's code for examples later on. It demonstrates some neat functions < 1501884742 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: well i'm a my hobby laughter i guess it when i go and i'm like man how am i going to be good < 1501884761 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how to make a.. What does fungot use? in befunge < 1501884761 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: well i think it was televised uh-uh)) amazing < 1501884770 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol does fungot activate a markov chain or something when you ping it < 1501884770 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATMunn: right it's it's very cooperative you know everyone loved it it was hard but we did and um i don't really i < 1501884785 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATMunn, uses something similar. But fungot is written in pure befunge. < 1501884785 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: um i used to < 1501884792 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1501884798 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1501884813 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like "i used to be written in pure befunge, but not anymore" < 1501884825 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. It still is < 1501884831 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1501884845 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was too perfect < 1501884862 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikr < 1501884871 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, does fungot use 93 or 98? < 1501884871 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATMunn: yeah yeah i think ah a lot of days later to come back in so sigh you know < 1501884876 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :98 < 1501884878 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1501884886 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im using 93 at the moment < 1501884896 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :use 98, 93 has a size limit < 1501884906 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if i want to do anything more than just something simple then i'll use 98 yeah < 1501884935 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other differences are there < 1501885180 0 :moony!~moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :98 has some new instructions < 1501885541 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501885561 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1501885582 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at the wiki, quite a few new instructions in fact < 1501885601 0 :ATMunn!~ATMunn@unaffiliated/atmunn26 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including one for every letter of the alphabet it seems :p < 1501885931 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fudge. < 1501886486 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1501886551 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1501887870 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501888624 0 :zseri!4d16fd4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.22.253.79 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1501889703 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot would be pretty much impossible (or at least implausible) without some of the '98 fingerprints, even without the size issue. < 1501889703 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: see i don't either < 1501889738 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular the babbling models are a bit too large to fit comfortably in memory, so it needs the FILE fingerprint to read them. < 1501889827 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm glad I decided not to take part in the contest, now < 1501889836 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1501889850 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this spec change means you need to start thinking about the algo again < 1501889871 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, I'm not sure this is a good task for a 1- or 3-day contest, it's more the sort of thing you'd want to spend months on < 1501889892 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sockets? < 1501889905 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98980.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/js/mines.html Always-solvable Minesweeper < 1501889923 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That as well, but I thought the usual "conect stdin/stdout to the server via some external means" approach would work around that. < 1501889925 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98980.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor tricked himself into thinking a puzzle he encountered didn't have a unique solution < 1501889936 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98980.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1501890210 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98980.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still should assume most people are better at Minesweeper than I am < 1501890402 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, depends