< 1500940944 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not cartesian closed. < 1500940959 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I know? nLab kind of implies it. < 1500941034 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have a subobject classifier? Umm... oh boy, that's an interesting one. < 1500941066 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's a subobject classifier, presumably it's the set 2. < 1500941115 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1500941129 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories that have a subobject classifier that isn't 2 are TG < 1500941140 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're what? < 1500941157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good < 1500941169 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let's see. < 1500941234 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Om is a subobject classifier if every monomorphism A -> B is a pullback of B -> Om along the "true morphism" 1 -> Om. < 1500941260 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Yeah close enough. < 1500941275 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The arrow B -> Om has to be unique, in particular. < 1500941315 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, consider the empty monomorphism from {} to {1}. < 1500941335 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has to correspond to exactly one function {1} -> Om. < 1500941368 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Om has to contain exactly one element that isn't the "true" element. < 1500941371 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Om has to be 2. < 1500941380 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nyow... < 1500941386 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is 2 actually a subobject classifier at all? < 1500941425 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given an injective primitive recursive function A -> B, is there a primitive recursive function B -> 2 which picks out its image? < 1500941540 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking... no. < 1500941668 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There can't be an algorithm for *finding* such a primitive recursive function, at least. I don't think. < 1500941710 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let A be the set of even integers greater than or equal to 4... < 1500941716 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And let B just be the natural numbers. < 1500941751 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define f(x) = x, if x is the sum of two prime numbers; otherwise, the smallest odd number that is not the value of f(y) for y smaller than x. < 1500941777 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the image of f contains 1 if and only if Goldbach's conjecture is false. < 1500941837 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, the function B -> 2 picking out the image of f is, in fact, primitive recursive. We just don't know which primitive recursive function it is. < 1500941876 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: SILENT CHICKEN < 1500941990 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1500944993 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-98-14-70-190.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1500945627 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1500945751 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-mvawhffnuhrkttjo QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1500946035 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1500946148 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-98-14-70-190.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1500946176 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-98-14-70-190.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1500946700 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1500947460 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, what was that algebraic geometry textbook that I'd been looking through. < 1500947465 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it Harris? < 1500947501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The senator? I don't think she wrote an algebraic geometry book. < 1500947505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you mean the magician? < 1500947543 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean my high school classmate. < 1500947549 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering if the textbook was literally that person. < 1500947609 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it was Perrin. < 1500947736 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, gotta be. < 1500947781 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exerciseeees < 1500947800 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is the set {(t, sin t) | t \in R} algebraic?" < 1500947803 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1500947882 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it... has countably infinitely many intersections with (t, 0)? < 1500947903 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it does not lie entirely on a line but does lie between two parallel lines? < 1500947972 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1500949490 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.9 < 1500949539 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-98-14-70-190.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1500950050 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1500950212 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500950352 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nndxbrtnwzshdsbb JOIN :#esoteric < 1500951267 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1500951281 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1500951298 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nndxbrtnwzshdsbb QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1500951595 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1500951807 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500952333 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52532&oldid=52528 5* 03LyricLy 5* (+1177) 10 < 1500952657 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10moved [[02A programming language is a formal computer language designed to communicate instructions to a machine, particularly a computer.10]] to [[A programming language is a formal language that specifies a set of instructions that can be used to produce various kinds of output.]]: Per spec < 1500953147 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07A programming language is a formal language that specifies a set of instructions that can be used to produce various kinds of output.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52535&oldid=52533 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-231) 10Lazily update < 1500953305 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52536&oldid=52531 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+5) 10/* A */ < 1500953346 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Programming Language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52537&oldid=51008 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+5) 10update < 1500953468 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bhyajelcvtbfrgwa JOIN :#esoteric < 1500953472 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500953675 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened? those definitions have no visible in jokes. < 1500953745 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bhyajelcvtbfrgwa QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1500953756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an out joke, i guess. < 1500953776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka wikipedia's first sentence changed, thus does the language. < 1500953886 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5* 10deleted "[[02Aplifcldtcitampac10]]": This redirect is now *completely* meaningless, rather than *almost completely*. < 1500954205 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: i see from history that it's name has been "butt" rather recently (if briefly) < 1500954208 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1500954247 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the current form has been _mostly_ there since 29 April. < 1500954285 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98980.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1500954289 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes me feel better < 1500954410 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you handle versioning? < 1500954432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the "formerly known as" part, i guess... < 1500954490 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(might have to reformat that at some point) < 1500954560 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean programs don't have a way to indicate which version they depend on < 1500954585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1500954604 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately, each version doesn't have a lot of programs. < 1500954605 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98980.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500954632 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, each program contains all the information needed to discern the version < 1500954757 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current sentence is pretty much factually wrong, alas. < 1500954819 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :way too limited, which is ironical because it was changed in response to a talk page comment that complained the _original definition_ was too limited. < 1500955216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `` rm wisdom/ye*sh <-- nooooooooooooooo < 1500955226 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> <_< < 1500955947 0 :Mr2001!18071b12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.7.27.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1500956383 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Polyglot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52538&oldid=49718 5* 03Wheatwizard 5* (+122) 10Added the PPCG polyglot < 1500956659 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1500956818 0 :PattuX!uid129971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-stddouevqvlfxldh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1500956884 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500957014 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAKMEM says that to swap two bits in an accumulator, you can write "TRCE A,BITS" three times, but I don't know what is TRCE. Do you know? < 1500957123 0 :Mr2001!18071b12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.7.27.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/opcodes.html < 1500957128 0 :Mr2001!18071b12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.7.27.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAKMEM is all about the PDP, isn't it? < 1500957145 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1500957155 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you I will look at that document < 1500957401 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "test bits right with complement and skip if equal" I am not sure what "test bits right" means, though. < 1500957580 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That document does not explain much about the instructions. < 1500957714 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-hwvltrftnvqzcgzb JOIN :#esoteric < 1500957961 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I looked at other files in the same directory and found some more information < 1500957983 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-hwvltrftnvqzcgzb QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1500958284 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I see how it works < 1500958292 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500958520 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I read about what that instruction actually means, and now I can see how it is working. < 1500958579 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see why they were proud enough to put it in the hackmem < 1500958588 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry "HAKMEM" < 1500958647 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jgxemdbdohmcpuzw JOIN :#esoteric < 1500959185 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jgxemdbdohmcpuzw QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1500959374 0 :Mr2001!18071b12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.7.27.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if I had a dollar for every time I've needed to swap two bits in an accumulator in fewer than four instructions < 1500959439 0 :Mr2001!18071b12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.7.27.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I would've just paid for the extra electricity it took to do it the straightforward way, and kept the other 99.99999 cents < 1500959843 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-lnkbfrvirncmzhpd JOIN :#esoteric < 1500960494 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mr2001: OK, but what instruction set are you writing the programs for anyways? < 1500960995 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-lnkbfrvirncmzhpd QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1500962856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1085 < 1500962857 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1085: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1500963164 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bpdllrzvzobmessj JOIN :#esoteric < 1500963368 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1500963412 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. I'm hooked. < 1500963422 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just compressed a graph of four nodes down to 1.625 bits. < 1500963429 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :four nodes, three edges. < 1500963442 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, not bits, bytes. < 1500963446 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :himode < 1500963454 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiii. < 1500963457 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a good succinct representation of prefix trees? < 1500963471 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :plenty if you hunt., < 1500963484 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just doing graphs. < 1500963492 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :and n-ary trees. < 1500963594 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds trickier. < 1500963602 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of one for either. < 1500963637 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually pretty neat. < 1500963662 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started working on encoding planar graphs then I figured out that what I was doing was book encoding. < 1500963665 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :or book embedding. < 1500963704 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :planar graphs are really easy. given a list of n nodes, say 5, list out n marks of *. < 1500963728 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :*****. then, for each edge like 1 <-> 3, place a { after the first node in the pair, and a } after the second node. < 1500963781 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the string becomes *{**}**. adjacency queries become questions about enclosure. < 1500963859 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, to test whether node 1 is connected to node 3, all you have to do is navigate to node 1, skip ahead to the first {, and then skip to the matching }. if the index of the third node in the string is less than the index of the matching }, then they're connected. if not, they aren't. < 1500964137 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some other stuff you need like backtracking from a closing to an opening, because each opening and closing paren after the *s represents an edge. < 1500964260 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1500964425 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bpdllrzvzobmessj QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1500964760 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a twist though: one sequence like this only encodes a planar graph. if you want to encode a nonplanar graph, you have to use book embedding to encode multiple planar graphs with the edges you want. < 1500964786 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's as simple as concatenating the strings of bits together with a delimiter. < 1500964787 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500964866 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :compressing graphs like this gives me some new insight on how to cram a fuckton of data onto small devices. < 1500965362 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1500967648 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1500967658 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What new insight is that? < 1500967795 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that if you support basic bitwise ops you can store massive static datastructures with efficient query ops on extremely small devices. < 1500967805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode going compression crackpot in 3,2... < 1500967818 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1500967844 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to pointer-based stuff. < 1500967891 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: crackpot huh? :P < 1500967904 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500967907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure that's a thing. < 1500967941 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yeah I can store 10Tb on this flashdrive." < 1500967978 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://goodmath.scientopia.org/2010/08/03/revenge-of-the-return-of-the-compression-idiot/ < 1500968032 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good luck kid I'm behind seven archives." < 1500968117 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I can compress any file down to 50K. just don't ask me for it back. < 1500968153 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done compression stuff before, many kind of experiment, making better compression for Sokoban levels, for MegaZeux worlds, etc. These are specific cases rather than general-purpose compression though < 1500968177 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1500968190 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing is, it's not really compression. < 1500968232 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graph as specified above is still usable in place. with some rudimentary rewriting you can insert new edges, remove edges... < 1500968340 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26ze5gwc9fhogs71.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1500968445 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1500968492 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely not the ideal representation but it gets damn close. < 1500968653 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This was with random data. At least that's what people call it. Bzip2 data. (It looks pretty random to me.)" < 1500968672 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't know what this stuff represents so it's random." < 1500968683 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :crackpots are funny people. < 1500968711 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually a fair definition of random < 1500968737 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not one you can use for compression or other mathematical purposes < 1500968738 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. < 1500968788 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might bayes other things on it < 1500968827 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-189-251-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500968853 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy needs to stop hamming around. < 1500969086 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-189-251-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1500969417 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26ze5gwc9fhogs71.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1500969699 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: whoa whoa whoa < 1500969703 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: 9 is a lot of years < 1500969736 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most you can have without running out of digits < 1500969752 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hex years are a thing < 1500969753 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. Time to start over after that. < 1500969805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only use hex years if you've been hexed to have 8 fingers on each hand hth < 1500969847 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were hexed, you'd have 6 fingers, right? < 1500969862 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would have to be octed to have 8 fingers < 1500969885 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses < 1500969897 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. < 1500970404 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1500970461 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-189-251-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500970562 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1500970738 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-189-251-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1500970771 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1500970981 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1500971218 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :English has upset me once again. Why is there a stress on the *second* syllable in "superfluous"? < 1500971311 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :-per-? < 1500971321 0 :Hoolootwo!~Hoolootwo@hooloovoo.blue PRIVMSG #esoteric :english hates you too < 1500971405 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: because if you stress the next syllabe it sounds like super-fluorescent < 1500971457 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1500971589 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@2a02:748:a800:ca7:ea75:b12d:51:a5c3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1500971612 0 :Bowserinator!?@? NICK :Guest31828 < 1500971776 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, that upsets me too < 1500971796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: looks like it's the stress inherited from latin... < 1500971815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it's entirely logical. < 1500971864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the -ous is from -us, not -osus) < 1500972177 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1500972590 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500973028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1500974727 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1500975332 0 :Slereah__!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-235-39.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1500975413 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-93-182.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1500975533 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1500975595 0 :Slereah__!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-235-39.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1500976121 0 :relrod!~relrod@origin.elrod.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1500976122 0 :relrod!~relrod@origin.elrod.me QUIT :Changing host < 1500976122 0 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/relrod JOIN :#esoteric < 1500976447 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-112-189.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1500978370 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1500978568 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Would you like tea or coffee?" "True." < 1500978766 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Okay, would you like tea xor coffee?" "True." "Hm. Would you like tea?" "Superposition. I haven't observed the details of my desire for a hot beverage yet." "..." < 1500979211 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nrcddadyefzivwno JOIN :#esoteric < 1500979922 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ, is it OK if I answer "False" to the first question? < 1500979958 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it necessary for the possibility that you drink coffee to entail an obligation for you to eventually drink tea? < 1500982417 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500982484 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1500985017 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, it would make more sense than answering True. < 1500985022 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least to an ordinary person. < 1500985045 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, yes but only if you're British, < 1500985047 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :.* < 1500985061 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ, it's amazing how surprised people get when I want neither tea nor coffee < 1500985305 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1500985352 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp*! < 1500985586 0 :PattuX!uid129971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cmbopzzenifgnpml JOIN :#esoteric < 1500985619 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome PattuX < 1500985623 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08PattuX: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.) < 1500985811 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: REENTRANT CHICKEN < 1500991090 0 :Slereah__!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-234-226.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1500991190 0 :Slereah!~Slereah@ALille-651-1-112-189.w2-5.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1500991229 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1500991584 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1500991753 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1500993302 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1500993302 0 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500993340 0 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1500993364 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1500993566 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1500993574 0 :tswett!~tswett@167.73.32.65 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1500993587 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1500994565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1500994631 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1500995199 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1500996274 0 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu JOIN :#esoteric < 1500996902 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1500997643 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-189-251-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1500999558 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501000185 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-189-251-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1501000442 0 :Arctor!53e28539@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.226.133.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501000516 0 :Arctor!53e28539@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.226.133.57 QUIT :Client Quit < 1501001218 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1501002267 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501002355 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@134.58.253.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1501002470 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1501002471 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501002489 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2017/07/adobe-flash-update.html < 1501002512 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1501002698 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-189-251-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501002952 0 :augur!~augur@c-73-189-251-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501004203 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501004468 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: hm, I wonder what happens to old parts of homestar runner? Didn't it use to have flash games? I haven't followed it in recent years. < 1501004535 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, I'm thinking of homestuck < 1501004542 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :homestar runner was always all flash wasn't it? < 1501004565 0 :catern!~catern@catern.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1501004585 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501004996 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-24-8-135-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501006083 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1501007328 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1501009164 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-98-14-70-190.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1501009174 0 :MrBismuth!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c801:d7f:77e1:92be JOIN :#esoteric < 1501009360 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:1c14:5a96:6956:b3c9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1501009420 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I'm sure I used to own more than zero pens < 1501009430 0 :MrBismuth!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c801:d7f:77e1:92be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501009438 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:3ddf:a946:9a50:6933 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501009840 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Emoji-gramming14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52539&oldid=52512 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+1) 10 < 1501012237 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: check under the carpet < 1501012401 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone invent a bf equivalent language where each symbol is a digit from 0 to 7 and you need a space between symbols and no other symbol is valid? < 1501012564 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501012569 0 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501012698 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501012765 0 :Guest31828!?@? NICK :Bowserinator < 1501012788 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@2a02:748:a800:ca7:ea75:b12d:51:a5c3 QUIT :Changing host < 1501012788 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1501012810 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:3ddf:a946:9a50:6933 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501013742 0 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1501013806 0 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501013919 0 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Client Quit < 1501013929 0 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501014168 0 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Client Quit < 1501014178 0 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501014551 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1501015799 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:54b5:1e4b:86ba:a137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501015957 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lfqvmmdcbptbxalx JOIN :#esoteric < 1501016490 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:54b5:1e4b:86ba:a137 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501017346 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1501018030 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't know about homestar runner, but in general some animations will be recorded as video and posted on YouTube; some will be converted to JavaScript (Google has a tool for that, for adverts); and there are Flash player implementations both native and web < 1501018073 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :deltab: also homestuck and similar < 1501018085 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1501018097 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had interactive stuff though < 1501018101 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :small games < 1501018107 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the massive game repositories like Kongregate < 1501018122 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, newgrounds it the other big one right? < 1501018126 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1501018170 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1501018314 0 :deltab!~deltab@ds6266.dedicated.turbodns.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.kongregate.com/html5-is-here/ < 1501018629 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:b92c:780f:96c6:c2e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1501019735 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501020430 0 :hppavilion[0]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1501020703 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Emoji-gramming14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52540&oldid=51395 5* 03Kerbal 5* (+289) 10/* Potentially Stupid Question */ new section < 1501020760 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1501020846 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1501023010 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:b92c:780f:96c6:c2e6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1501023588 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@cpe-98-14-70-190.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1501024063 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-nrcddadyefzivwno QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1501024352 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ivqeehlwikpjygpd JOIN :#esoteric < 1501024616 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1501024626 0 :MrBusiness!~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:d843:fe4d:a86c:921e JOIN :#esoteric < 1501025284 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1501025602 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1501025713 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ivqeehlwikpjygpd QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds