< 1496880328 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1496881419 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496881474 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1138@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.17.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1496881586 0 :wob_jonas!b03f1138@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.17.56 QUIT :Client Quit < 1496881607 0 :sdhand!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko QUIT :Excess Flood < 1496881628 0 :sdhand!~sam@2001:41c8:51:10d:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1496881651 0 :Remavas!?@? NICK :RemavasZsZsZsZsZ < 1496881652 0 :sdhand!?@? NICK :Guest80613 < 1496882046 0 :Remavas-Hex!~Remavas@md-188-69-215-57.omni.lt JOIN :#esoteric < 1496882204 0 :fractal_!fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1496882238 0 :RemavasZsZsZsZsZ!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1496882456 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-94.dyn.movilnet.com.ve QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1496882582 0 :IronY!?@? NICK :RealityWinner < 1496882606 0 :RealityWinner!?@? NICK :IronY < 1496882670 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-94.dyn.movilnet.com.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1496882745 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1496882746 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fternooner//fternooner (Danish »fternooner«, Norwegian «ttermiddag», Swedish ”ftermiddag”, Icelandic „íðdegis“) is a screamingly delicious pastry. < 1496882802 0 :fractal_!fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1496882825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Have No Mouth, and I Must Eat Screamingly Delicious Pastries < 1496883431 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496883452 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1496883458 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:block device//Block devices are a concession made in Unix to make raw hard disks and magnetic tape have a similar interface to regular files and terminals. Since magnetic tapes can't write individual bytes, only entire blocks, the interface isn't exactly the same, thus the dreaded dd obs= option was born. \ 0//702 matching entries found. \ pizz < 1496883461 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1496883462 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:a//Pizza is a kind of rhubarb pie made without rhubarb. \ sgeolang//Sgeolang used to change frequently, but eventually it rusted in place. \ postfridgerator//Postfridgerators are what we'll use once global warming really takes hold. < 1496883482 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits block device < 1496883491 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonäs < 1496883491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1496883506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Is Sgeolang still Rust? < 1496883529 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yes < 1496883911 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1496883961 0 :Guest26135!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496883994 0 :Guest26135!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1496884262 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-94.dyn.movilnet.com.ve QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1496884551 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-94.dyn.movilnet.com.ve JOIN :#esoteric < 1496884582 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, on my way home from work a terrible/great idea occurred to me < 1496885100 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496885125 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\. what happened into your mind? < 1496886064 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ seems to have been consumed by insanity. a sad affair. “never go full insane,” I say. < 1496886419 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:98df:f688:24f9:802a:83bd:8e10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this divine hell? < 1496886605 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are things men and fungots aren't meant to know, much less glance upon. deep into unfathomable meanders, across currents only felt, never touched... < 1496886605 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: of course, but sh is broadly very portable. especially when compared to scheme < 1496886647 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xzhxlhfbyezicnce JOIN :#esoteric < 1496886665 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heed the Wisdom of the fungot. hear its bedazzled grunts, words spoken without a mouth. (and an as of yet unknown amount of nostrils.) < 1496886665 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you know this already), were my patches no good? :) htmlprag? < 1496886760 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but can't recall. it is ingrained too profound, my mind the overgrown ruins that jut above a derelict plain, windswept by a shrill breeze. < 1496886802 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(speaking of breeze, I should unclothesline the laundry. the sun has set.) < 1496887114 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496887152 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prods \oren\ with his mapole. “you alive?” < 1496887321 0 :Bowserinator_!?@? NICK :Bowserinator < 1496887325 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@2a02:748:a800:ca7:ea75:b12d:51:a5c3 QUIT :Changing host < 1496887326 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1496887463 0 :Marcela_Gandara1!~Marcela_G@190-76-250-94.dyn.movilnet.com.ve QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1496888073 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1496888740 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496888819 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming that languages like esperanto, lojban, toki pona etc are capable of the full range of human expression < 1496888825 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ^ < 1496888832 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it must be possible to write pornography in them < 1496888846 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was wondering if anyone had done so < 1496888877 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most probably so. < 1496888922 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it turns out if you just put esperanto pornography into bing image search... < 1496888978 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :images have language now? < 1496888991 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone made a MLP porn comic with dialogue in esperanto < 1496889014 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1496889034 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to know. < 1496889041 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellorcah! < 1496889120 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a program for Worley/Voronoi partitioning but it is slow and I think maybe could be made to be faster, perhaps if the points are stored sorted and with a limited range per scanline to search in, although I would have to see how to make those ranges then. < 1496889424 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Especially since different metrics can be used, as well as different n-th close point, this can do something.) < 1496889801 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: REVIEW CHICKEN < 1496890030 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496891126 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496892324 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496892484 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496892633 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496892665 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496893038 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@108-74-161-76.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496894823 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@108-74-161-76.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1496894896 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@108-74-161-76.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496895487 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1496895581 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1496895592 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1496896456 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1496896730 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496896979 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1496897026 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.149 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1496897351 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496898258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496898765 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496898786 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496898854 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496898865 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496898876 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496898915 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496898945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496898970 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496899205 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1496900030 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1496900084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496900678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1496901910 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496902616 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@108-74-161-76.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1496903266 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496903456 0 :Guest80613!~sam@2001:41c8:51:10d:: QUIT :Changing host < 1496903456 0 :Guest80613!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko JOIN :#esoteric < 1496903456 0 :Guest80613!?@? NICK :sdhand < 1496905097 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1496905204 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xzhxlhfbyezicnce QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1496905544 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496905765 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm: "The function f is continuous at x if f(x + ε) = f(x) + o(1)" < 1496905795 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that right? < 1496906327 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1496906373 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1496906478 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496906640 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1496906723 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1496906905 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496907201 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1496911065 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496913701 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it could be correct but leaves too much implicit . o O ( also this reply may be a bit too late to be useful ) < 1496913797 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically you still have to say that ε is supposed to approach 0 and that this is used as the implicit limit in the o notation) < 1496913956 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I'm wondering whether anybody writes o_{\epsilon \to 0}(1) < 1496913956 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I haven't seen anything (afair) like this but it does seem to make sense) < 1496913989 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was from https://micromath.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/donald-knuth-calculus-via-o-notation/ < 1496914009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which suggests introducing o() before limits. < 1496914039 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1496914141 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496914153 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you treat o as an operator on functions? < 1496914172 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it would be o(0)(f) < 1496914177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or o(f)(0)? < 1496914193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the limit operator L : (R -> R) -> (R -> R) < 1496914233 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lf(x) = lim_{y \to x}{f(y)} < 1496914257 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the properties of L? < 1496914264 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked some questions about this a while ago but I forgot them. < 1496914400 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1496914472 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect L(f) is continuous on its domain (which will be smaller than the domain of f if f is not continuous) < 1496914511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smaller? < 1496914520 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The domain of Lf could be larger. < 1496914547 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"f is continuous" means "f = Lf" < 1496914772 0 :augur!~augur@hostelling-international.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496917774 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496917944 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1496918024 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1496919362 0 :augur!~augur@hostelling-international.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496919442 0 :augur!~augur@208.90.213.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1496919733 0 :augur!~augur@208.90.213.226 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1496920905 0 :augur!~augur@208.90.213.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1496921186 0 :augur!~augur@208.90.213.226 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1496921538 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1496921671 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496921861 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1496921863 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :muphrys law//Mumphrie's Law says things will be misspelled at the worst possible moment. < 1496922325 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Lf is not defined at x if f is discontinuous at x. < 1496922331 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I see what you mean < 1496922342 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'll be incomparible actually < 1496922375 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, surprisingly, not idempotent. subtle. < 1496922451 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(start with f(0) = 1, f(x) = 0 otherwise; Lf will be undefined at 0 and 0 everywhere else; LLf will equal 0 everywhere) < 1496923756 0 :Remavas-Hex!?@? NICK :Remavas < 1496923762 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@md-188-69-215-57.omni.lt QUIT :Changing host < 1496923762 0 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1496924440 0 :Remavas!?@? NICK :Remavas-PC < 1496924566 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CATERPILLAR CHICKEN < 1496925800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Insanity 5* 10New user account < 1496926833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1496927825 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496928118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52086&oldid=52073 5* 03Insanity 5* (+208) 10Added why I am here (Insanity) and a short description of myself. < 1496928123 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07ImageFuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52087 5* 03Insanity 5* (+1628) 10Add Imagefuck < 1496928193 0 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1496928195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Insanity14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=52088 5* 03Insanity 5* (+211) 10Created page with "Hi there! I'm the creator of [[ImageFuck]], a [[Brainfuck]]-like language that executes code based on the colours of the pixels in am image. More about me can be found on my..." < 1496928209 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Insanity14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52089&oldid=52088 5* 03Insanity 5* (+12) 10 < 1496928258 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52090&oldid=52075 5* 03Insanity 5* (+16) 10Add ImageFuck to language list < 1496928573 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496928876 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496930014 0 :augur!~augur@hostelling-international.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496930443 0 :augur!~augur@hostelling-international.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1496930669 0 :atslash!~atslash@213.87.134.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1496931427 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496931681 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496933006 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496933049 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496933300 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1496933405 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496933701 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-108-154.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496935273 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Micro14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52091&oldid=52083 5* 03Raddish0 5* (+187) 10added more content < 1496935704 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Micro14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52092&oldid=52091 5* 03Raddish0 5* (+124) 10Add the commands 'r', and 'c'. changed the examples accordingly < 1496935779 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496935965 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496936304 0 :atslash!~atslash@213.87.134.219 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1496937050 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-108-154.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1496937058 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Raddish014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52093&oldid=50739 5* 03Raddish0 5* (+918) 10Added a LOT of stuff about myself < 1496937256 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e (start with f(0) = 1, f(x) = 0 otherwise; Lf will be undefined at 0 and 0 everywhere else; LLf will equal 0 everywhere) <-- i don't think so, the limit usually excludes the point itself so it's 0 everywhere from the start. < 1496937256 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1496937281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52094&oldid=52090 5* 03Raddish0 5* (+12) 10 < 1496937327 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496937393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e What you can probably achieve is a function such that Lf is defined only at one point, and then L(Lf) nowhere. But on the intersection of their domain, i think Lf and L(Lf) must be equal. < 1496937393 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1496937479 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1496937524 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( @tell is so useless ) < 1496937538 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask int-e OKAY? < 1496937538 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1496937551 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kicks oerjan < 1496937556 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1496937584 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that don't ask don't tell list again < 1496937587 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now memorized third verse of Moscow Nights < 1496937600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dontaskdonttelllist < 1496937602 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dontaskdonttelllist: q​u​i​n​t​o​p​i​a​ m​y​n​a​m​e​ < 1496937621 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo int-e >> bin/dontaskdonttelllist < 1496937625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1496937640 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's a command for that as well but I forget) < 1496937846 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, meh. I wonder how universal that agreement is, I'm pretty sure I was taught a different definition in highschool. < 1496937893 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we had left-sided and right-sided limits too that did exclude the limit point itself) < 1496937957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't you need to be careful when defining derivatives < 1496937996 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, points where the function was undefined were excluded as well < 1496938000 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's fine. < 1496938016 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOUNDS COMPLICATED < 1496938031 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say so < 1496938065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1496938073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1496938392 0 :hppavilion[0]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is tuned in to the Comey Hearing < 1496938426 0 :hppavilion[0]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1496938511 0 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496938571 0 :electrolex!~electrole@pool-108-26-188-232.bstnma.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496938718 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1496939006 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1496939292 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496939590 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496939621 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496939840 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496940183 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, in you guys' opinion, is the strangest esoteric language? < 1496940271 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1496940918 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1496940943 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to try mine? It's called Integ. The Python 3 interpreter's at https://github.com/kerbin111/Integ < 1496940994 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496941335 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496941864 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1496941978 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can write in esolang wiki if it isn't already, but, I will look on there thank you < 1496942110 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, sorry < 1496942317 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496942456 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1496943253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1496943404 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Why is Lf undefined at 0? lim_{x -> 0}{f(x)} = 0, isn't it? < 1496943431 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, what oerjan said. < 1496943469 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The limit of a function at a point has nothing to do with the value of the function at that point, only nearby points. < 1496943501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, you have a different definition. < 1496943700 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think a standard definition is, lim_{x -> c}{f(x)} = L means that the function f' equal to f everywhere except c, and defined as f'(c) = L, is continuous at c. < 1496943834 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1496943901 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in the docs about MMIX, Knuth mentions that there could be a cheap impl of MMIX where the hardware doesn't know about the structure of the page table trie, and all page table lookups are handled in kernel mode software fault routines. \ < 1496943991 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My question is: is it possible to have a cheap impl of MMIX where the hardware doesn't know how to spill the register stack to memory, so when the hardware register stack overflows upwards or underflows downwards, values are swapped in by a kernel mode software fault routine? < 1496944038 0 :nullcone!uid11626@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qiqbhamsznctnxic QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1496944073 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I am not sure, but I thought not. < 1496944089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1496944091 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1496944246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07MMIX14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52095&oldid=51175 5* 03B jonas 5* (+41) 10 < 1496944955 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been working more on Z-machine implementation in MMIX. It may still contain some mistakes though < 1496945765 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496946442 0 :bender|!~Bender|@2405:204:20ac:9f88:40f6:415e:f716:e6ed JOIN :#esoteric < 1496946471 0 :bender|!~Bender|@2405:204:20ac:9f88:40f6:415e:f716:e6ed QUIT :Changing host < 1496946471 0 :bender|!~Bender|@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1496946797 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496946949 0 :bender|!~Bender|@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1496946987 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1496947308 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Skewer +[->>[-]<+] < 1496947354 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496947362 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust Skewer +[->>[-]<+] < 1496947397 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does zemhill not run anymore? < 1496947441 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1496947452 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^zjoust always_lose < < 1496947461 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@zjoust always_lose < < 1496947461 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1496947462 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`zjoust always_lose < < 1496947463 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: zjoust: not found < 1496947467 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.investopedia.com/news/more-bets-against-tesla-any-other-company-tsla-bac/ < 1496947487 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently everyone thinks tesla is overvalued < 1496947489 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot < 1496947496 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lambdabot < 1496947509 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1496947509 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1496947513 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1496947513 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search < 1496947513 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1496947541 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf < 1496947541 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1496947554 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you use this bot? < 1496947581 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have a zjoust module? < 1496947591 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++[->+++++++<]>[.+] < 1496947592 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrst... < 1496947618 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ['*'..] < 1496947620 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrs... < 1496947648 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... but that won't do bf jousting < 1496947654 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1496947661 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not meant to either < 1496947669 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 42}.a. < 1496947670 0 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: *+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ €‚ƒ„…†‡ˆ‰Š‹ŒŽ‘’“”•–—˜™š›œžŸ ¡¢£¤¥¦§¨©ª«¬­®¯°±²³´µ¶·¸¹º»¼½¾¿ÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏÐÑÒÓÔÕÖ×ØÙÚÛÜÝÞßàáâãäåæçèéêëìíîïðñòóôõö÷øùúûüýþÿ < 1496947679 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah... so you can no longer do that in #esoteric? < 1496947744 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not? < 1496947761 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ '...',~45{.42}.a. < 1496947761 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki must be wrong, then < 1496947761 0 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: *+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUV... < 1496947779 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ '...',~74{.42}.a. < 1496947780 0 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: *+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrs... < 1496948622 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if the bots are nonexistent, then is it impossible for people to get their names on the zem.fi leaderboard? < 1496948643 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there another submission method, like through http? < 1496948702 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do it on the website, but that "gives" your submission to the name "web." < 1496948843 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception: # < 1496948851 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's broken anyway. complain to fizzie :P < 1496948911 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie runs the bots? < 1496948929 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he runs bots < 1496948938 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1496948940 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all of them. < 1496948997 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just HackEgo, fungot and zjoust (if it were there), as far as I'm aware. < 1496948997 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: r6rs is at http://www.arts.gla.ac.uk/ slavonic/ absurd.htm. take one down, pass them around < 1496949024 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bots < 1496949025 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bots? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1496949048 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1496949050 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1496949055 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496949065 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1496949065 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1496949079 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sorry, just seeing what would happen) < 1496949127 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1496949165 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? prefixes < 1496949166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1496949215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496949228 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[help < 1496949238 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ help < 1496949238 0 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal: |value error: help < 1496949241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1496949247 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ < 1496949291 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal: http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Community/IRC gives some very obsolete info < 1496949399 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1496949904 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1496949940 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really "run" HackEgo, I just help out a little. < 1496949970 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, that's what all unlucky people who become maintainers say at the start < 1496949974 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me try to remember how on earth you actually started zemhill. < 1496950002 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There was some sort of a maintenance thing on DigitalOcean, that's why it's not up right now.) < 1496950068 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1496950075 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe like that. < 1496950083 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ztest whatever < < 1496950084 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ztest: not found < 1496950090 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest whatever < < 1496950090 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie.whatever: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 < 1496950103 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks so much, fizzie! < 1496950117 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me test my new design: < 1496950146 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*10>(+)*10>)*4([-]>)*-1 < 1496950147 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -9.88, score 13.04, rank 42/47 < 1496950159 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not great, but a start < 1496950190 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-][-].[-])*99 < 1496950190 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -27.02, score 7.12, rank 47/47 < 1496950198 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust Checkers >((-)*10>(+)*10>)*4([-]>)*- < 1496950198 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -32.83, score 2.96, rank 47/47 < 1496950211 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-][-][-].)*99 < 1496950211 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -27.10, score 7.13, rank 47/47 < 1496950213 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah I know, but complaining you you is quicker than complaining to Gregor when HackEgo breaks ;) < 1496950215 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*10>(+)*10>)*4([-]>)*-1 < 1496950216 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -9.88, score 13.04, rank 42/47 (+5) < 1496950218 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-][-][-])*99 < 1496950218 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -26.29, score 7.34, rank 47/47 < 1496950223 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/you you/to you/ < 1496950226 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-][-][.-])*99 < 1496950227 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -24.69, score 7.81, rank 47/47 < 1496950236 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[.-][-][-])*99 < 1496950236 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -24.62, score 7.83, rank 47/47 < 1496950242 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[.-][-])*99 < 1496950242 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -23.62, score 7.90, rank 47/47 < 1496950246 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[.-].)*99 < 1496950246 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -24.12, score 7.74, rank 47/47 < 1496950249 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[.-])*99 < 1496950249 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -24.31, score 7.35, rank 47/47 < 1496950254 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[.-][.-])*99 < 1496950254 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -23.48, score 7.91, rank 47/47 < 1496950258 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[.-][-.])*99 < 1496950259 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -22.98, score 8.12, rank 47/47 < 1496950262 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... does zemhill work in privmsg? < 1496950262 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-.][-.])*99 < 1496950263 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -22.90, score 8.43, rank 47/47 < 1496950271 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-.][-..])*99 < 1496950272 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -22.50, score 8.81, rank 47/47 < 1496950275 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-.][-...])*99 < 1496950275 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -21.31, score 8.96, rank 47/47 < 1496950279 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-..][-...])*99 < 1496950279 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -23.88, score 7.74, rank 47/47 < 1496950285 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-][-...])*99 < 1496950285 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -23.38, score 8.05, rank 47/47 < 1496950290 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-.][-....])*99 < 1496950291 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -25.14, score 7.60, rank 47/47 < 1496950293 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-.][-.....])*99 < 1496950294 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -20.81, score 9.23, rank 47/47 < 1496950297 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-.][-......])*99 < 1496950297 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -22.64, score 8.74, rank 47/47 < 1496950301 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest dumb (>[-.][-.....])*99 < 1496950302 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.dumb: points -20.81, score 9.23, rank 47/47 < 1496950302 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably have monitoring and alerts on that thing, I've been adding that sort of thing to other things as well. < 1496950305 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: STOP! < 1496950308 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1496950339 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1496950423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hint-e < 1496950432 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much spam. < 1496950498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What sorts of monitoring? < 1496950504 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is L a linear operator? < 1496950508 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is. < 1496950540 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*15>(+)*15>)*4([-]>)*-1 < 1496950540 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -5.67, score 18.51, rank 17/47 (+30) < 1496950570 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not terrible, actually < 1496950591 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Maybe I could add a /metrics endpoint to it. Or a black-box probe. Or both. < 1496950615 0 :jjthrash!~jjthrash@util.brownbirdlabs.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1496950628 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately Prometheus /metrics only supports floating point values for time series. < 1496950644 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should support any metric space. < 1496950719 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*15>(+)*15>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496950719 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -6.19, score 17.96, rank 19/47 (+28) < 1496950740 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjthrash: hi < 1496950868 0 :jjthrash!~jjthrash@util.brownbirdlabs.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey there < 1496950905 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496950908 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*5>(+)*5>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496950908 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -15.40, score 12.13, rank 46/47 (+1) < 1496950917 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*25>(+)*25>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496950918 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -7.52, score 13.46, rank 34/47 (+13) < 1496950923 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*15>(+)*15>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496950924 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -6.19, score 17.96, rank 19/47 (+28) < 1496950930 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*10>(+)*10>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496950930 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -9.40, score 12.98, rank 44/47 (+3) < 1496950937 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*20>(+)*20>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496950937 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -7.67, score 16.59, rank 20/47 (+27) < 1496950951 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting close < 1496950960 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*17>(+)*17>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496950960 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -7.00, score 17.59, rank 19/47 (+28) < 1496950965 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*17>(+)*18>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496950965 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -8.40, score 16.66, rank 20/47 (+27) < 1496950972 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*18>(+)*17>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496950973 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -8.19, score 16.96, rank 20/47 (+27) < 1496950990 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*16>(+)*16>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496950990 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -6.55, score 17.82, rank 19/47 (+28) < 1496951019 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for this bot, the size of the trap blocks should be 15-17. Interesting < 1496951038 0 :jjthrash!~jjthrash@util.brownbirdlabs.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal: Anybody going to use a genetic algorithm to grow a bot? ;) < 1496951082 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not today < 1496951181 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : !ztest Checkers >((-)*16>(+)*16>)*4([-]>)*12[-] < 1496951187 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*16>(+)*16>)*4([-]>)*12[-] < 1496951187 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e.Checkers: points -17.60, score 11.20, rank 47/47 < 1496951190 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496951198 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun. < 1496951550 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*16>(+)*16>)*5((+)*10[-]>)*-1 < 1496951551 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -8.05, score 17.12, rank 20/47 (+27) < 1496951561 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*15>(+)*15>)*5((+)*10[-]>)*-1 < 1496951562 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -8.81, score 16.46, rank 21/47 (+26) < 1496951570 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496951573 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*17>(+)*17>)*5((+)*10[-]>)*-1 < 1496951573 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -8.29, score 17.01, rank 20/47 (+27) < 1496951586 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*15>(+)*15>)*5((+)*7[-]>)*-1 < 1496951586 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -6.55, score 17.90, rank 19/47 (+28) < 1496951633 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*15>(+)*15>)*5((+)*15[-]>)*-1 < 1496951633 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -8.33, score 16.62, rank 21/47 (+26) < 1496951634 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496951654 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*15>(+)*15>)*5([-]>)*-1 < 1496951655 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -6.19, score 17.96, rank 19/47 (+28) < 1496951771 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*17>(+)*16>)*4([-][+.]>)*20[-][+.] < 1496951772 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e.Checkers: points -3.57, score 20.14, rank 15/47 < 1496951773 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you stop with the bot spam? < 1496951777 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there another channel for that? < 1496951801 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zemhill does work in privmsg btw. this is just where I decided to stop < 1496951872 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry... I'll conduct further tests with pm's < 1496951914 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal: note that I found that 17/16 performs better than 16/16 and 17/17, a bit curiously. < 1496951974 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Interesting! What do the other mods you added do? I sort of think they probably help too < 1496952063 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know exactly, but there are some defense mechanisms for a plain [-] and [+.] has a different rhythm so gets another chance to kill those defenders < 1496952099 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the final change with miniscule effect is to never step off the arena if it has size 30 < 1496952247 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Makes sense < 1496952439 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1496952487 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496952829 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest Checkers >((-)*17>(+)*16>(+)*17>(-)*17>)*2([-][+.]+>)*20[-][+.] < 1496952829 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e.Checkers: points 0.00, score 23.22, rank 10/47 < 1496952846 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0.00! I don't know how that happened.) < 1496952857 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1496953006 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool! < 1496953026 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are the points calculated? < 1496953032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496953054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1496953194 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Someone pointed out that L is still not idempotent. < 1496953291 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal: I think it works like this: there are 42 jousts between a pair of programs (every combination of length 10..30 and sides the players are on), resulting in a score between -42 and 42; the tested program is pitted against all programs on the hill and the final score is the average of the resulting scores. < 1496953293 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example on the characteristic function of {1/n | n <- N+} < 1496953328 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. So, are higher or lower scores better? < 1496953342 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :higher is better. < 1496953366 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1496953371 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496953372 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496953391 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But lower ranks are better, right? < 1496953423 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about the score computation though. yes, lower numbers for the rank are better. < 1496953444 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I say numbers because I'd call them higher ranks...) < 1496953462 0 :nullcone!uid11626@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-weoajmjkaaykahaw JOIN :#esoteric < 1496953503 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how did you get 0 points and yet such a low rank (10/47)? Does that imply that lower points are better, or that they are calculated in some indecipherable way? < 1496953523 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, never mind < 1496953535 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 points is higher than in many previous attempts < 1496953586 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal: higher points is better < 1496953593 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ztest suicide < < 1496953593 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas.suicide: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 < 1496953602 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ low score, very bad < 1496953608 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good would be 46 points < 1496953645 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, then, is the difference between scores and points? < 1496953650 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: what are you up to? < 1496953664 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1496953665 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1496953671 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1496953678 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm? < 1496953688 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just bored < 1496953695 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zemhill < 1496953696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zemhill? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1496953731 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you can do this: < 1496953734 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496953742 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1496953742 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal: I do !zjoust; see http://zem.fi/bfjoust/ for more information. < 1496953757 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as you can see that doesn't provide relevant info < 1496953768 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the website has our answer < 1496953813 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it doesn't < 1496953817 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/bfjoust/internals/ has details on "Markov scoring" < 1496953843 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stand corrected :) < 1496953866 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand < 1496953867 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1496953946 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1496954246 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Graue hosts the archive now (on Github)? I forget who used to host it ... < 1496954321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp github.com < 1496954324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cookbook:Random food recipes at https://gist.github.com/nylki/1efbaa36635956d35bcc \ esoteric files archive:The Esoteric Files Archive is now available at https://github.com/graue/esofiles \ font:#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://li < 1496954329 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1496954347 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 grwp github.com < 1496954348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz \ lifthrasiir's font:lifthrasiir's font is https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ https://lifthrasiir.github.io/unison/sample.png \ recipe:Random food recipes at https://gist.github.com/nylki/1efbaa36635956d35bcc < 1496954394 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Befunge section seems a bit anemic < 1496954395 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You should adjust `2/distort so it breaks at exactly the right place. TWH < 1496954833 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1496954843 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1496955002 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496955402 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496955496 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Tiny: points -14.62, score 10.39, rank 47/47 < 1496955546 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Tiny: points -14.62, score 10.39, rank 47/47 (--) < 1496955569 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, look at that. zemhill echoes to #esoteric even when I send it a pm < 1496955667 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might as well make requests here < 1496955745 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1496955795 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496955893 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal: it doesn't for tests. submissions *should* be rarer. < 1496955917 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Ah... I see... < 1496955925 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bad < 1496955953 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1496955988 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Tiny: points -13.93, score 13.63, rank 39/47 (+8) < 1496956004 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1496956031 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry... I used the up arrow to load the last command and neglected to change the !zjoust to !ztest. < 1496956681 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -4.48, score 18.80, rank 18/47 < 1496956696 0 :kerbal!683239a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.50.57.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That submission was intentional. < 1496956720 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i intentional equality < 1496956869 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -4.48, score 18.80, rank 18/47 (--) < 1496957044 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, why're you versioning me < 1496957052 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover 2.0 < 1496957185 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -4.55, score 18.82, rank 18/47 (--) < 1496957252 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1496957257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:apl//APL stands for Algorithmic Programming Language. \ vim//vim equals to cmxciv or cmxcvi, depending on which part of Roman Empire you are. \ football//A football is a ball made of feet. It was rdocscovered in an old burial site near a graveyard full of footless zombies. \ stone space//Stone spaces were invented by P. T. Barnum as a hoax. \ p < 1496957267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1496957268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:atent//Patent is an adjective which means that something is painfully obvious. Often used to rightfully mock people that do not see it. < 1496957298 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1496957332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget football < 1496957334 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1496957370 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg stone space < 1496957379 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8459:2016-06-12 le/rn stone space/Stone spaces were invented by P. T. Barnum as a hoax. < 1496957380 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: bored < 1496957380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysterious < 1496957385 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was I thikning of? < 1496957405 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1496957429 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reads like a half-wisdom. < 1496957437 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :P. Taneb Barnum < 1496957442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions: math < 1496957443 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, the reals, Lambek's lemma, Curry's paradox, algebraic geometry, locales, and histograms. < 1496957477 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebventions: math//s#alg#Stone spaces, &# < 1496957478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, the reals, Lambek's lemma, Curry's paradox, Stone spaces, algebraic geometry, locales, and histograms. < 1496957535 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -4.52, score 18.85, rank 18/47 (--) < 1496957644 0 :sleffy!~sleffy@c-24-7-67-0.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1496957659 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -3.07, score 19.72, rank 16/47 (+2) < 1496957849 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -2.86, score 19.94, rank 16/47 (--) < 1496957862 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a small interpreter esolang where every token is exactly two bytes long yet is textual and intended to be hand-writable? < 1496957871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Micro14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52096&oldid=52092 5* 03Raddish0 5* (-66) 10/* Built-in functions */ added some stuff, fixed some stuff... < 1496957876 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a forth-alike? < 1496957891 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why two bytes? < 1496957924 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well one bytes is a bit too short and there are already lots of languages like that < 1496957936 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -2.88, score 19.92, rank 16/47 (--) < 1496957944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Micro14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52097&oldid=52096 5* 03Raddish0 5* (+59) 10 < 1496957944 0 :zemhill!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerbal.Checkers: points -2.86, score 19.94, rank 16/47 (--) < 1496957960 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and two bytes should be enough for not too big programs, and most people don't write big programs for small interpreter languages unless they have efficient hw impl < 1496958002 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really think "ad" is more readable than '+'? < 1496958008 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "sb" for '-'? < 1496958067 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"small" (for a language) could mean anything < 1496958098 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rug: if you have 20..30 primitives and two hundred (functions and local variables together) you might not want to figure out how to assign them single char names so they don't collide < 1496958119 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two hundred identifiers in your program that is < 1496958155 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because your programming language is one that likes variables (like C), not one with lots of implicit unnamed stuff (like stack-based languages) or reusable registers < 1496958205 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: It's not an answer to your question, but a reasonably large chunk of Burlesque has some resemblance. < 1496958241 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1496958249 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like Oberon/0 (the successor to PL/0) ? Or Pascal-S (aka, subset) ? < 1496958268 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that one-byte opcodes aren't ideal, but two-byte isn't much better < 1496958360 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say it was ideal < 1496958550 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@jaboja.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1496958589 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh rosettacode.org is down < 1496958692 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1496958914 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Micro14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52098&oldid=52097 5* 03Raddish0 5* (+300) 10 < 1496959511 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try looking up Rosetta on the WayBack Archive < 1496959662 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to mostly be available there < 1496960300 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the toki pona language attempts to represent a large percentage of human expression with 120 'tokens' < 1496960325 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: and it fails hilariously. those words are not enough to say anything decent < 1496960332 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a ridiculously bad attempt fora language < 1496960345 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate toki pona < 1496960357 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what happens is you have long noun phrases for simple concepts < 1496960372 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are ambigous < 1496960426 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's what I recall from when I looked at it last < 1496960440 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens is a language that can talk only about a few topics that the creators wanted to talk about. typical newspeak language, deliberately limiting the range of your expressions to just the thoughts they consider good for the cause < 1496960488 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than python < 1496960548 0 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ymmd < 1496960560 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet they could have done way better if they had about 1000 words < 1496960590 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, and some other constructed languages try that < 1496960612 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many basic words are there in lojban again? < 1496960667 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 1200 root words and 500 grammar words < 1496960735 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few concepts missing convenient words, but not too many, and they can be added. between 800 and 4000 root words seems about the right number for a good language < 1496960792 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zeg5d1hdbp5l73.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1496961324 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zeg5d1hdbp5l73.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1496961470 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joyo Kanji? supposedly 2136 words < 1496961543 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those aren't words, they're characters. a lot of words are written with multiple kanji, or with multiple kana, and the kanji can stand for lots of words < 1496961549 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a crazy ambiguous system < 1496961567 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a small text here about Esperanto, not sure exactly what number they're claiming, but you can get by with less than 1000 < 1496961569 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though at least they don't have stupid irregular conjugations or declinations like most European languages) < 1496961603 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Rugxulo: there are a lot of such short lists. most are missing some topics that the compiler doesn't like or doesn't think of, but the order of magnitude is right < 1496961603 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1496961617 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(665?) < 1496961698 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :search Google for "Jim Cushing" Esperanto < 1496961778 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my Longman dictionary has a pretty good list which it tries to stick to for most word definitions, of about 1800 or 1900 words. does let them write all of the definitions in a natural way, which suggests it's a decent list for most topics < 1496961801 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a monolingual English dictionary) < 1496961921 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: well, japanese has 3 irregular verbs... aru/arimasu/nai kuru/kimasu/konai and suru/simasu/sinai < 1496961953 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: right. way better than most European languages < 1496962070 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hungarian declination and conjugation is terrible. it's so bad that people use some details that are utterly unimportant as shiboleth to recognize non-native speakers, there are some details that even native speakers can't agree on, and a few verbs are impossible to conjugate in half of the forms so you need to rephrase sentences if you tried to us < 1496962070 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e them. < 1496962094 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like english "can" < 1496962112 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496962128 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or must < 1496962142 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can, could, am able to (not "am canning"*) < 1496962166 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell if you're kidding or not < 1496962196 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no gerund for can < 1496962226 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's a tinning kit, not a canning kit < 1496962295 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :must, must (musted*), am forced to (musting*) < 1496962364 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :must and can are almost like particles < 1496962409 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? can < 1496962410 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can cans can cans? < 1496962410 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? must < 1496962412 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :must? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1496962471 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to limit the depth of a Huffman tree? < 1496962516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a Huffman tree anymore at that point, is it? < 1496962616 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: fiddle with the model probabilities to increase the small ones? < 1496962713 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a weird thing is that some of these defective verbs move around to hide it: "I have could write it"* -> "I could have written it" < 1496962718 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: But how much to decide to do such thing? < 1496962805 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: or more usually you just replace them with synonyms that have fuller paradigm: can => is able to; must => need; < 1496962896 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496962904 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: oh, yeah and if you do that, the meaning is different < 1496962920 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the meaning becomes more regular or something < 1496962928 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those other words behave more regular < 1496962938 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have been able to write it" != "I could have written it" < 1496962945 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496962957 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fact they are almost opposite < 1496962985 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because one implies you did write it, the other implies you didn't < 1496962999 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite their similiar formation < 1496963023 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1496963053 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1496963306 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh ELECTION TIME! < 1496963322 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Micro14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52099&oldid=52098 5* 03Raddish0 5* (+104) 10add I command < 1496963325 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what election? < 1496963346 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in britain < 1496963360 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :May's election gamble BACKFIRES: Stunning exit poll suggests the PM has LOST seats and Britain is on course for a hung Parliament < 1496963392 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GBP in nosedive < 1496963398 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're hanging your politicians? that's a nice system < 1496963444 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to improve the JPEG encoder to make its own Huffman tree, and it does result in smaller file size, and stb_image successfully decodes the JPEG file in that case, although ImageMagick complains about a bogus Huffman table definition and refuses to display it. (Currently, if it finds the depth of the Huffman tree is too much, it just discards it and uses the default instead.) < 1496963447 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be "hanged" hth < 1496963456 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to fix these things? < 1496963527 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: dunno < 1496963626 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1496963858 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496964050 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! brexiteers on suicide watch as tories lose seats, Sad! < 1496964111 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren\! you're alive! < 1496964122 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been a lot of things about the election, and I can't even vote. :/ < 1496964157 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point watching elections is like my version of sports < 1496964277 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're pretty slow at counting here. < 1496964852 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Péter Szijjártó being interviewed on RT right now about european-russian relations < 1496965156 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite his unfortunate haircut, seems like he has a coherent mind < 1496965193 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1496965363 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, are you in a safe seat though < 1496965392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Can you run for office? < 1496965408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo fizzie for president of finland < 1496965465 0 :Rugxulo!~Rugxulo@104-55-20-34.lightspeed.moblal.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizland < 1496965468 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think so, though I've not really inquired. < 1496965480 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Haven't asked. < 1496965488 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-56-48.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia suggests a "package merge" algorithm for length-limited Huffman coding < 1496965520 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I should now get an email if the "test" action at the web zemhill submission endpoint stops working. Maybe that'll mean more nines of being up. < 1496965538 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-70.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1496965643 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: more nines is good < 1496965831 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziello, Phantom_Helloover, helloochaf, Rugxello, fiziello, hezzo38, wellob_jonas. < 1496965832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1496965837 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! < 1496965889 0 :wob_jonas!b03f13d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.19.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1496966106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohaily < 1496966275 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :swindon north to tories < 1496966289 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the first tory seat announced so far < 1496966375 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :I declare scotland for SNP < 1496966393 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they do one whole riding at a time, rather than counting them in separate batches?