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Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 00:40:15 I am not sure how to do. 00:41:27 Do you like relative-location-bar? 00:41:43 Whom are you asking? 00:42:40 You 00:44:54 Me? 00:45:37 Yes 00:45:58 Me personally? 00:46:01 Yes 00:46:20 I don't know what relative-location-bar is, so I'm afraid I can't answer. 00:47:21 It mean in the web browser that you can type in the relative URL to navigate to, instead of absolute (you can still type in a absolute URL if you type all of the necessary parts). 00:48:09 Oh. 00:48:27 That seems incompatible with the thing where anything that isn't an absolute URL turns into a search engine query. 00:48:30 I use that thing a lot. 00:49:43 I do sometimes use such queries too, but I put in a different way to do that. If you put a colon and then the search engine keyword at the beginning, then it is a search engine query for the search engine specified by the keyword. 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In addition to plain text it supports simple stick figures. \ pawn//*YOU* are a pawn. *MWAHAHAHAHA* \ phantom__________hoover//OK you got me there. \ banach-tarski//"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". \ steam sale//A steam sale is when money i 06:26:10 `n 06:26:11 2/2:s heated to such high temperatures it evaporates and then condenses into games you will never play. 06:26:35 `? pawn 06:26:36 ​*YOU* are a pawn. *MWAHAHAHAHA* 06:26:39 curses 06:26:42 foiled 06:27:12 `5 w 06:27:16 1/2:the question//The The Question is the fundamental mystery of #esoteric, and boily is its master. \ golf//Golf is the shortest game known. The goal is to get a ball into a hole with a single stroke. \ metar//metar is a service Taneb invented that allows nerds to talk about the weather. \ vaarsuviu//Vaarsuvius is female. The Word of God 06:27:19 `n 06:27:19 2/2: about that is right at http://www.giantitp.com/FAQ.html#faq10 , right above where he tells the comic updates three times a week (twice a week according to the TOC). \ chicken//Chicken have capital words. boily leaves them. 06:28:09 `cwlprits vaarsuviu 06:28:17 b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs 06:28:18 `forget vaarsuviu 06:28:20 Forget what? 06:28:44 @ask boily do you like chicken-of-the-woods 06:28:44 Consider it noted. 06:30:03 `? foil 06:30:04 foil? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 06:31:12 `5 06:31:14 1/2:204) [...] reyouthismootherate [...] \ 3) that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ 944) Phantom_Hoover: my department teaches prolog, to second years I think some people choose it because it isn't ocaml, and then are disappointed to find it has lists \ 775) `n 06:31:17 2/2:ngot> olsner: over the undertow! under the overpass! around the future and not just fnord for example. it's just the syntax \ 1114) i find some deep satisfaction in the fact that the legacy wolfram will leave is as the man who made calculus homework orders of magnitude easier 06:32:52 `learn Foil is a material that provides protection against evil, such as mind control rays. To protect the world many heroes spend a lot of their time foiling villains. 06:32:55 Learned 'foil': Foil is a material that provides protection against evil, such as mind control rays. To protect the world many heroes spend a lot of their time foiling villains. 06:36:39 `? try and 06:36:40 try and? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 06:36:54 alercah: good evening 06:37:19 `le/rn try and/"try and" is the worst part of the English language 06:37:20 Usage: `le/[/]rn // 06:37:30 `le/rn try and//"try and" is the worst part of the English language 06:37:32 Learned 'try and': "try and" is the worst part of the English language 06:37:45 alercah: p. sure there's worse parts of English hth 06:37:56 for example: the phrase "the English language" 06:37:59 what's that supposed to mean? 06:38:07 is "English" an adjective or what? 06:38:23 i'm going to try and avoid that phrasing 06:39:38 `le//rn try and//"try and" is the bane of prescriptivists. 06:39:40 Relearned 'try and': "try and" is the bane of prescriptivists. 06:43:31 o⃛erjan 06:47:02 wat 06:47:11 `unidecode o⃛ 06:47:15 ​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+20DB COMBINING THREE DOTS ABOVE] 06:47:26 now that's a king 06:47:38 OKAY 06:47:48 `unicode CROWN 06:47:51 U+1F451 CROWN \ UTF-8: f0 9f 91 91 UTF-16BE: d83ddc51 Decimal: 👑 \ 👑 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) 06:48:16 not combining enough 06:48:17 why have i been using puny [U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS] when i could have been using [U+20DB COMBINING THREE DOTS ABOVE] 06:48:29 people have accused me of being the new yorker recently 06:48:39 fiëndish 06:48:48 but just wait until they see this coo⃛rdinated assault on their sensibilities 06:49:16 assuming their fonts will show it. mine doesn't. 06:49:37 oh 06:49:42 scow 06:49:50 upgrade your font hth 06:50:05 no. 06:50:34 it may be somewhat due to putty not supporting more than one at a time. 06:50:57 you're clearly uncoo⃛perative in this matter 06:51:44 yep 06:52:35 how naı⃛ve 06:53:15 oh wait 06:53:20 o⃜ 06:53:28 `unidecode u⃜ 06:53:29 ​[U+0075 LATIN SMALL LETTER U] [U+20DC COMBINING FOUR DOTS ABOVE] 06:53:33 now we're talking 06:54:18 oerjan: you're missing some p. good combining characters 06:54:27 shachaf: you realize it was hyperbole, yes? 06:54:37 Do you have COMBINING SEAGULL BELO̼W? 06:55:06 alercah: My opinion: There's absolutely nothing wrong with "try and". 06:55:09 Next they will need the COMBINING FORTY-TWO DOTS ABOVE 06:55:18 shachaf: which makes it all the better 06:55:25 It sounds natural to my fluent English-speaking ear. 06:55:31 zzo38: presumably COMBINING FIVE DOTS ABOVE would be next 06:55:35 shachaf: it sounds unnatural to mine hth 06:55:53 not sure how my ear that doesn't speak English feels 06:56:08 I bet your ear just listens. 06:56:15 Yes, but I mean after they doo all of the more next and next and next next next next and so on 06:56:29 O, that's what you mean. 06:56:54 oe⃰rjan 06:57:17 o⃧erjan 06:57:48 COMBINING TRIPLE UNDERDO⃨T, COMBINING WIDE BRIDGE ABO⃩VE 06:57:52 abo⃩ve 06:59:35 Do you have COMBINING QUESTION MARK WITH WINGS? 07:00:29 My font doesn't have all of these. 07:00:31 COMBINING WIGGLY LINE BELOW 07:00:42 COMBINING X-X BELOW 07:00:54 is that a smiley 07:01:13 I don't know? 07:01:15 good thing unicode has both COMBINING MACRON-ACUTE and COMBINING ACUTE-MACRON 07:01:25 and COMBINING GRAVE-ACUTE-GRAVE and COMBINING ACUTE-GRAVE-ACUTE 07:01:42 This is like _Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead_ 07:02:07 "We're more of the love, blood and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." 07:02:38 It sounds natural to my fluent English-speaking ear. <-- funny thing, the corresponding phrases in norwegian are homophones. although that doesn't help people get the right one when spelling. 07:02:39 COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER K 07:03:24 Why is there a combining version of a bunch of the latin small alphabet? 07:03:31 COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS 07:03:36 this is fantastic 07:03:49 prøve å feile: try to fail. prøve og feile: try and fail (or idiomatically, trial and error) 07:05:00 By the way, English may or may not have been the first language I spoke, but I have an obvious accent in it. 07:05:17 My ear, on the other hand, has no accent. 07:05:35 and COMBINING GRAVE-ACUTE-GRAVE and COMBINING ACUTE-GRAVE-ACUTE <-- but does it have COMBINING GLAIVE-GUISARME-GLAIVE ? 07:08:25 20EC COMBINING RIGHTWARDS HARPOON WITH BARB DOWNWARDS [⃬] 07:08:42 rightwa⃬rds 07:08:53 le⃭ftwards 07:08:58 My font seems to be rendering those backwards. 07:09:10 shocking 07:09:23 Yes, my font has it backwards from http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/20ec/index.htm 07:09:51 `icode ℈ 07:09:52 ​[U+2108 SCRUPLE] 07:09:58 do you have those in your font twh 07:11:05 can you send these by ℻ 07:11:45 `icode ↉ 07:11:46 ​[U+2189 VULGAR FRACTION ZERO THIRDS] 07:11:57 `icode ⅺ 07:11:58 ​[U+217A SMALL ROMAN NUMERAL ELEVEN] 07:13:06 so many rectangles. now shave -> 07:13:11 shave?! 07:15:51 [wiki] [[User talk:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=52014&oldid=51940 * Zzo38 * (+1) 07:22:21 -!- Remavas has quit (Quit: Leaving). 07:22:44 -!- Remavas has joined. 07:22:44 -!- Remavas has quit (Changing host). 07:22:44 -!- Remavas has joined. 07:23:52 `5 w 07:23:56 1/2:dark water//Dark water is an instadeath terrain type in Game Boy games that would represent lava if you had lots of imagination. \ bee//What if bees were made of smaller bees? 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I don't think I knowingly ever tasted it. 18:41:07 I don't see the pun. 18:42:07 Have yuou ever knowingly tasted RELATIVE CHICKEN, BLAST CHICKEN, or HILL CHICKEN? 18:42:16 You can like things without tasting them. 18:43:23 me neither. but if there is, I won't admit it. 18:43:50 to which extent can one know a chicken? 18:44:10 I like trains, and I don't plan on ever tasting one. 18:45:00 I would probably taste chicken-of-the-woods given the ooprtunity. 18:45:06 oppo 18:45:56 But not a chicken-of-the-phasianidae-family. 19:04:56 `4 w 19:05:00 1/2:cloud//The cloud is a server Blackhat guy runs, connected to the internet through a cable modem. There's a lot of caching. Cloud is also the shape of clouds. \ ism//Isms are philosophies, religions or ideologies that have branched off from older ones, such as Leninism or Buddhism. Etymologically "ism" is a backformation from portmante 19:05:05 `n 19:05:06 2/2:aus on "schism". \ phantom___hoover//Phantom___Hoover sucks at ghosting himself. \ elliott//elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? He is also tire. And a lystrosaur. 19:06:17 `? cube 19:06:18 Cubes come in all sizes, colors, and materials, but only one shape. The companion cube does not speak, however. 19:06:30 `dowg cube 19:06:38 8928:2016-08-17 slwd cube//s#rs#rs,# \ 7100:2016-03-05 learn_append cube The companion cube does not speak, however. \ 5888:2015-08-06 learn Cubes come in all sizes, colors and materials, but only one shape. 19:06:49 int-e: Can we do something about that second sentence? 19:07:11 I like the austerity of the first sentence on its own. 19:08:17 `5 w 19:08:22 1/2:ybden//ybden daintily hides in her den, fostering dark machinations on warfare cutlery. \ second wisdom//The second wisdom is that wisdom can never be complete or consistent. \ hydrocomputer//Hydrocomputing is the field of computer programming which studies the computational power of water. \ `revert//`revert " can be used to rev 19:08:23 `n 19:08:24 2/2:ert to a revision. See . It is a builtin command so cannot be called from other commands. \ w//A w is everything a cow isn't. 19:11:03 -!- jaboja has joined. 19:12:56 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 19:27:02 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! 19:27:05 crawl 0.20! 19:27:14 fo' rizzle ma shizzle! 19:34:48 -!- jaboja has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:35:25 -!- boily has quit (Quit: VESPERAL CHICKEN). 19:51:26 -!- tromp has joined. 19:55:58 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:15:05 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:22:09 shachaf: I don't care. 20:22:40 The main inspiration was that Portal has a bonus level (based on the one with the companion cube) in which the companion cube is actually a sphere. 20:23:51 Thus questioning the "only one shape" claim. 20:24:08 "does not speak"? 20:24:49 hello 20:25:01 I think it's a moderately good humor now, but I still think the entry is cleaner without it. 20:25:26 https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Portal_(game)#Test_Chamber_17 20:51:35 -!- Remavas-Hex has joined. 20:53:56 -!- Remavas has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 20:54:33 -!- Remavas-Hex has changed nick to Remavas. 20:54:35 -!- Remavas has quit (Changing host). 20:54:35 -!- Remavas has joined. 21:00:02 -!- boily has joined. 21:04:33 -!- jaboja has joined. 21:17:33 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 21:18:00 `5 starwars 21:18:03 1/1:Ortugg \ Bib Fortuna \ Watto \ Jocasta Nu \ Poe Dameron 21:19:18 `quote 21:19:19 1294) I have just learned about "SMASH FACE ON KEYBOARD; POST RESULTS". --- quit: hppavilion[1] (Quit: Leaving) --- join: hppavilion[1] [...] joined #esoteric ...that was the result, apparently Dammit, f4 21:19:31 `quote 21:19:32 1208) or to put it weirder, a continuation is the same as an expression zipper. 21:21:48 -!- augur has joined. 21:25:55 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:27:23 `` ls bin/*paste* 21:27:26 bin/paste \ bin/pastefortunes \ bin/pastekarma \ bin/pastelog \ bin/pastelogs \ bin/pastenquotes \ bin/pastequotes \ bin/pastewisdom 21:27:40 pastenquotes??? 21:27:44 `pastequotes 21:27:46 https://hackego.esolangs.org/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/quotes 21:28:19 helloily 21:28:46 wellob_jonas! 21:57:43 I wrote this document (including example) http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/farbfeld.ui/wiki?name=ff-chess Do you think this example is reasonably OK? 21:59:04 hezzo38. very compact. 22:08:18 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 22:08:48 -!- atslash has joined. 22:16:32 -!- augur has joined. 22:20:46 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 22:21:55 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:32:54 -!- atslash has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 22:34:28 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 22:41:12 -!- Slereah has left. 22:49:21 I think UNIX philosophy is best kind of way making computer program, to make each program doing one thing well, make every program a filter, avoiding captive user interface, etc 22:50:40 Is ls a filter 22:52:30 It filters the filesystem and produces a list of files. 22:53:24 -!- tromp has joined. 22:53:27 It filters its command-line arguments into some system calls like getdents(), and then filters the results into stdout. 22:53:49 It does not take input (it does not need to), but otherwise is like that. Of course some program can't filter but usually is best way. AmigaMML is a filter; takes a text from stdin and make .MOD/.XM to stdout (and it currently ignores all command-line arguments); playmod is also filter with .MOD/.XM from stdin and then the audio data on stdout, and then use another program such as aplay to makethe music audible please. 22:54:26 zzo38: What do you do when the computer program is an interactive computer game like Potion of Confusing? 22:55:27 Of course there are interactive computer games and so on, but you should avoid it when the program does not need to be interactive. 22:55:53 What if your program is a long-running web server or Gopher server? 22:56:37 Some programs will of course do interactive, but for example a program to reverse the input does not need to be interactive, is better as a filter. As filter should be preferred if possible in most cases. 22:57:11 A program to reverse the input can also be implemented as a shared object file. 22:57:15 For a server, of course that is different too, but it is a server. Still it might use such as with xinetd and then call another program which is act like a filter 22:57:36 It could be implemented as an HTTP service. 22:57:45 Or maybe another RPC system. 22:57:51 Is there an RPC system using Gopher? 22:58:02 It can be implemented as a shared object file, but each program should be separate and to do one thing. 22:58:13 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 22:58:40 I doubt either HTTP or Gopher are really that good for RPC systems though 22:58:53 What's good for RPC systems? 22:59:03 RPC-protocol 23:00:55 What's that? 23:01:24 I don't know? 23:13:01 O, Lode Vandevenne contributed to Zopfli. 23:13:34 What are those things? 23:14:54 -!- MEgablin has joined. 23:15:13 What are what things? 23:17:05 Lode, Vandevenne, Zopfli 23:18:10 тут русские есть? 23:18:13 Lode Vandevenne is a person (who also invented LodePNG) and Zopfli is a compression program 23:18:24 алле 23:18:50 MEgablin: Do you know how to write English please? 23:18:52 DALnet 23:19:03 `welcome.ru MEgablin 23:19:03 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome.ru: not found 23:19:08 tdnh 23:19:15 very easy 23:19:26 OK 23:20:01 that is all? 23:22:19 -!- MEgablin has quit. 23:31:58 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 23:32:35 -!- sleffy has joined. 23:40:56 -!- tromp has joined. 23:42:57 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:47:11 @messages-told 23:47:11 boily said 5h 6m 55s ago: hellørjan. good question. I think there's an horrible pun in there, but I'm not willing to accept having punned. 23:47:28 BOKAILY 23:50:26 HELLOKAYRJAN 23:53:35 Takelle 23:57:23 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:57:56 -!- augur has joined.