< 1489881812 0 :alercah!~alercah@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait I could go say hi to lambdabot in person? < 1489881998 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, but I think we had a recent visitor from there. < 1489882040 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've heard something about Microsoft and Kirkland as well. < 1489882129 0 :IRCFrEAK!~GK_1wm_SU@2606:f180:2:2f2:2f2:e5b4:7aeb:43dd JOIN :#esoteric < 1489882245 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no I wasn't keeping it on CaC... but it was pushing the limits of its VPS. < 1489882246 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome IRCFrEAK < 1489882248 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09IRCFrEAK: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06EFnet 13or 04DALnet.) < 1489882262 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: hellorcah! can you take pictures? < 1489882371 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and somehow the VPS type I wanted is currently "out of stock" at ramnode's NL location... and it doesn't really matter where lambdabot is running... not even for privacy concerns given the unencrypted state of IRC. < 1489882399 0 :IRCFrEAK!~GK_1wm_SU@2606:f180:2:2f2:2f2:e5b4:7aeb:43dd QUIT :K-Lined < 1489882564 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recalls something about irc and tls but cannot remember if freenode was supporting it or not
< 1489882590 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1489882604 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still fairly moot < 1489882635 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you check /whois lambdabot you'll see it's even using tls < 1489882677 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1489882780 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most secure thing ever: socat TCP4-LISTEN:6667,bind=127.0.0.1,reuseaddr,fork,forever OPENSSL:chat.freenode.net:6697,verify=0 ... the last option means that MITM attacks are not prevented. < 1489883220 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1489883386 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly wonders if anyone's made "man in the middle" lyrics to that michael jackson melody
< 1489883532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there are at least two real songs with that title. < 1489883540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bee gees and abba) < 1489883883 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489884231 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nyupcrkwftymyqek QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1489884592 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1489884593 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nak// < 1489884599 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1489884600 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric-blah//#esoteric-blah blah blah. Blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah! < 1489885364 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:c9d6:6dfb:41b7:8acb QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1489886131 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the +10 mace "Natiheoq" (weapon) {protect, +Inv}". < 1489886134 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwah ah ah. < 1489886138 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH AH AH AH AH :D < 1489886317 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1489886360 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489886515 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :natty hack < 1489887186 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdochelloc, hppavellon[1], Jafellot. < 1489887281 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1489887521 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Jafet < 1489887523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1489887604 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafetafet < 1489888488 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1489888582 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bores rdococ with his choice of surgical tool: https://achatmaterieldentiste.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/forme-fraise-metallique.png?w=600&h=256
< 1489888609 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am being bored. < 1489888863 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow. < 1489888865 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to make sure that everything is perfectly clean and aseptic, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorhexidine < 1489888868 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow? < 1489889053 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489889055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you may have forgot the anesthetics hth < 1489889171 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that. < 1489889507 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :zz < 1489889581 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GUARD CHICKEN < 1489890136 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489890287 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1489890423 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just typed eval(In[-1]) into ipython < 1489890425 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no regrets < 1489891573 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]! < 1489891587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu! < 1489891589 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how goes? < 1489891643 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Not particularly well this week :/ < 1489891660 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm sorry to hear that... < 1489891714 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anything I can do to help? < 1489891730 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :debugging? reverse engineering? refactoring? < 1489891742 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No, it's nothing codey < 1489891754 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: One of my cats died. Don't particularly want to talk about it < 1489891773 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: take a moment, that's all you can do < 1489891861 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never known that, I've had 2 indoor-outdoor cats disappear into the abyss, but I've never known the feeling of seeing such an extended family member pass like that < 1489891890 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in some sense, it's worse not knowing < 1489892919 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1489892923 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489893486 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489893612 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489896315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1489896870 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1489899190 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should change my lastname to Dotorg... < 1489899200 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"should" < 1489899249 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Ingy döt Net? < 1489899645 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489900977 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Like Kim Dotcom < 1489901009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Scow. < 1489901034 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New surnames should be invented more often < 1489901053 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"President Dotgov announced today her pick for Secretary of Defense" < 1489901183 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So as not to leave you hanging, it was Nukem Dotmil. < 1489901290 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489901413 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1489901440 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489901559 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1489901590 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489901712 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1489901741 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489901863 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1489901893 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489901970 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1489901997 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489902183 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489902207 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489902285 0 :ahmedsfhtagn!~ahmeds42@212.0.149.80 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1489903277 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489903561 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1489903606 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, in MUMPS you can abbreviate keywords: https://github.com/OSEHRA/VistA-M/blob/master/Packages/Dental/Routines/DENTA1.m < 1489903755 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact this looks like a great language < 1489903759 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :RE W ! S DIC("A")="Select "_$P($T(OPT),S,4)_": EXIT// ",DIC="^DOPT("_""""_$P($T(OPT),S,5)_""""_",",DIC(0)="AEQMN" D ^DIC G:X=""!(X=U) EXIT G:Y<0 RE K DIC,J,O D @($P($T(OPT+Y),S,4)) G PR < 1489905078 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently a "new study" found that most people see themselves as nicer than they actually are < 1489905093 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which raises the questions of "how the hell did you even do that" < 1489906400 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: maybe you could ask other people who know them to rate them on a scale from 1 to 10? < 1489906409 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: sort of like style points < 1489906416 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for niceness < 1489906418 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Maybe, but you still run into the issue of different scales < 1489906424 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously < 1489906445 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say the solution was good, but is the only one remotely close to workable I can think of < 1489906485 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: still isn't a scale from 1 = Literally Hitler to 10 = The incarnate of niceness objective?! < 1489906578 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: anyway it wouldn't surprise me if the effect was true for the simple reason that a similar effect seems to exist for other aspects of ourselves. People think they are smarter than they really are and so on. < 1489906866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No < 1489906885 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, missparse < 1489906900 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, the misparse didn't change that the answer is 'no' < 1489906924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^sssssss < 1489906932 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: um? what are you saying "no" to? < 1489906938 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke about the scale? < 1489906957 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait < 1489906967 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^s/.*/s,ss,s,/ < 1489906978 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1489906987 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck < 1489906998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^s/^/^/ < 1489907004 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm abusing s/// < 1489907007 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :too early in the morning for sed fuckery < 1489907019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAGH < 1489907025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Doesn't matter anyway, I can't sed today < 1489907037 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1489907049 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can, however, r// < 1489907131 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is r? < 1489907144 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know sed well enough, I basically use the s and d commands in it only < 1489908112 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :r reads a file... < 1489908117 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has no // < 1489910342 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489910510 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489910691 0 :alercah!~alercah@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1489910742 0 :alercah!~alercah@unaffiliated/alercah JOIN :#esoteric < 1489910758 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489912605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just asked why strippers use a pole < 1489912612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why dance on a pole? What is the purpose? < 1489912713 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :some (most?) of the moves you do on a pole, you can do on a person < 1489912764 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's erotic because "look what i can do to you" < 1489912932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by a 10 year-old) < 1489913110 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :me.confused < 1489913538 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1489913746 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489914152 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489914431 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1489914550 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a 10 year old surely shouldn't know that a stripper uses a pole to begin with? < 1489914758 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zemcurka6b9s6d.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1489914881 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ...you don't understand children < 1489914890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, we don't count 2016. 2016 was terrible) < 1489915336 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :strippers? I've been told that pole dancing is a fitness program < 1489915583 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought strippers do pole vaulting. < 1489915592 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was it pole jousting? < 1489915611 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's what the really tall shoes are for < 1489915829 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was told they wear them to be closer to God. < 1489916661 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Adri 5* 10New user account < 1489916683 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1489916736 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie cfunge has been migrated to github: https://github.com/VorpalBlade/cfunge < 1489916736 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1489916780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Pole dancing is also very good exercise. I'd probably do it if it didn't mean I had to turn in my man card < 1489916826 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Some parents sign their children up for pole dancing classes... < 1489916838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I get that it's great exercise, and that there shouldn't be a stigma attached < 1489916842 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... yeah, no. Don't. < 1489916969 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1489917395 0 :adesanjo!~adesanjo@applejack.urlab.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1489917490 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Adesanjo 5* 10New user account < 1489917509 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :yhi < 1489918097 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489918741 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a lot easier to invade england when all the british soldiers are dicking around wiht the italians in Africa < 1489919635 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm attempting the "Vive la france" achievement. I've gotten to 1942, I need to get to 1948 without surrendering to anyone < 1489919667 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started by invading belgium and netherlands, and then england. < 1489921966 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is the mu and the nu
< 1489922061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL modern Greeks call Δ [ˈðelta] < 1489922103 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rather than [ˈdelta] like you'd expect; Δ makes the /ð/ sound, like the 'th' in "this") < 1489922294 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They call β [viːtə] or something similar < 1489922398 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modern Greek has diverged significantly from Ancient Greek. < 1489922423 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g hydros would be pronounced "idhros" (although they no longer call water that - now it's "nera") < 1489922437 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1489923730 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δis all sounds interesting < 1489924391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1489925753 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1489925754 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1489926289 0 :Melvar`!~melvar@dslb-178-000-201-009.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1489926336 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-084-062-095-254.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489926361 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-084-062-095-254.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1489926813 0 :Melvar`!?@? NICK :Melvar < 1489927600 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489928680 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hytsxbnnjidrqndu QUIT :Excess Flood < 1489928712 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1489928714 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mothology//Mothology is the study of moths, myths and mirths. < 1489928759 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-idyfszilahoenicj JOIN :#esoteric < 1489929233 0 :IRCFrEAK!~GK_1wm_SU@2606:f180:1:df:df:7c89:4bc0:a887 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489929472 0 :IRCFrEAK!~GK_1wm_SU@2606:f180:1:df:df:7c89:4bc0:a887 QUIT :K-Lined < 1489930655 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489931843 0 :shikhin!?@? NICK :buttess < 1489931850 0 :buttess!?@? NICK :shikhin < 1489933740 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1489933992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1489934197 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan < 1489934271 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afterkinoon < 1489934301 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "President Dotgov announced today her pick for Secretary of Defense" <-- . o O ( i should rule the world from my evil lair Punktumno... ) < 1489935285 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1489935285 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1489935517 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I set up continuous integration for cfunge whereby it automatically runs mycology as one of the tests. Annoying to filter the output to get rid of randomness and date/time though. < 1489935667 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing is fun! < 1489935679 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? testing < 1489935680 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1489935691 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoily < 1489935697 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Run with a fixed seed and libfaketime? < 1489935743 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hm that would be another option. I filter the output. cfunge moved to github today btw < 1489935760 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan to finally make a 1.0 release soon, either today or next weekend < 1489935765 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/VorpalBlade/cfunge < 1489935797 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if that doesn't happen, sometime next year ;P < 1489935818 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah that's the typical way it goes :-) < 1489935871 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we seem to have a user who cannot get past the introduction - from the esolang e was trying to create, i suspect e's really bad at english < 1489935873 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: still, no longer on bzr :) < 1489935894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, everything but the language name was in russian) < 1489935900 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: efunge and such might migrate in the not to distant future < 1489935912 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or next year ;-) < 1489935938 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need to figure out how to map branches from bzr to git though first. cfunge only had a single branch < 1489935940 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that was easier < 1489935970 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there no ready-made tools for bzr->git that would handle branches? < 1489935980 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it that there are too many alternatives < 1489936111 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: there is a bzr fast-export | git fast-import thing (the bzr thing being a plugin) that I used, and that seems to be the only alternative. Unless you go through for example hg in the middle < 1489936136 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg convert (bundled extension) can import from bzr (among other things) < 1489936143 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mangle the branches then or something? < 1489936152 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:21e3:889e:eea7:9db8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489936160 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't know. The concept of branches doesn't map 1:1 between the two systems < 1489936184 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :In bzr a branch is basically just another tree. There is nothing magical like a tag. < 1489936196 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :While in git there are several branches in the same tree. < 1489936242 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hg has yet another concept for branches, whereby it is an attribute of each commit and inherited by default (unless you create a new branch) by child commits. < 1489936259 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :going through hg will probably NOT help thus < 1489936311 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I suspect there will be some finagling involved with branches < 1489936418 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:21e3:889e:eea7:9db8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489936439 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1489936489 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: you haven't touched mycology in a long time according to github < 1489936489 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, ok. Never really looked at bzr. I guess that as long as there's some kind of ancestry information it can map things more or less correctly but you may want to do some post-processing to get it to look nice or something < 1489936499 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, that's correct < 1489936511 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or *funge things in general < 1489936540 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too little time these days, alas. < 1489936548 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: mostly same for me < 1489936569 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm.. need do do a couple of things. No release today of cfunge I expect < 1489936771 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : e.g hydros would be pronounced "idhros" (although they no longer call water that - now it's "nera") <-- "nero" * oerjan has been learning greek songs < 1489936782 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1489936795 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greece is a pretty nice place. < 1489936803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never been there though < 1489936892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that the basics of the spelling system are ~ 2500 years old, modern greek is actually surprisingly easy to pronounce. < 1489936917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just use different sounds, but still logically inferrable ones. < 1489936933 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being in the same place for millennia helps :P < 1489936963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really. english also did that, but see how it messed up in < 500 years < 1489936981 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :But English migrated a lot! < 1489936988 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, only from Denmark to England but still < 1489937006 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't really get its spelling system until it settled down. < 1489937016 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay okay, Norman invasion and all, I withdraw my argument. < 1489937047 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i read that not very long ago, most people in the athens area spoke albanian - there has been revival. < 1489937047 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hvaðan ertu, örjan? < 1489937071 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arnavites? < 1489937073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1489937082 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arvanites* < 1489937088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yeah < 1489937133 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what happened to Aromanian in Greece these days. < 1489937269 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym ø̈rjan hth < 1489937351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Greece, Aromanians are not recognised as an ethnic but as a linguistic minority and, like the Arvanites, have been indistinguishable in many respects from other Greeks since the 19th century." < 1489937819 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1489937837 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cultural disappearance makes me sad. < 1489937850 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: UNDER CHICKEN < 1489937974 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1489937974 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1489938038 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1489938368 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489938750 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1489938801 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489938816 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1489939654 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489944639 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489945257 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1489945628 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489945889 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489946478 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: branches are causing major issues indeed < 1489946603 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how to properly handle that at all < 1489946623 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I go via hg actually < 1489946670 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489946706 0 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the conversion to hg seems relatively sane, though not completely < 1489946787 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iibcijqyawizzqiu JOIN :#esoteric < 1489947208 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1489947239 0 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very unlike me, then. I'm absolutely insane. < 1489947833 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: INSULAR CHICKEN < 1489950107 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying... < 1489950132 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1489950341 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489950709 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489951786 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1489951900 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489952355 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1489952896 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489953191 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1489953300 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zorn's lemma < 1489953302 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zorn's lemma? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1489953304 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zorn's llama < 1489953305 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zorn's llama? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1489953373 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lowercase2 ÞÐØÆŒ < 1489953404 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1489953408 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lowercase2 < 1489953408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ tr A-Z a-z | LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 sed 'y/ØÅÆŒÞÐÄÖÜÁÉÍÓÚÝ/øåæœþðäöüáéíóúý/' < 1489953421 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, that's going slower than you'd expect < 1489953672 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/lowercase2b//#!/bin/bash\ntr A-ZØ a-zø < 1489953675 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/lowercase2b < 1489953697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lowercase2b BRØ < 1489953698 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: /hackenv/bin/lowercase2b: /bin/bash\ntr: bad interpreter: No such file or directory \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/lowercase2b: Success < 1489953706 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lowercase2b < 1489953706 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash\ntr A-ZØ a-zø < 1489953725 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/lowercase2b//s/\\n/\n/ < 1489953727 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/lowercase2b//#!/bin/bash \ tr A-ZØ a-zø < 1489953736 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lowercase2b BRØ < 1489953766 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1489953773 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems multi-byte unicode characters cause immense lag. < 1489953782 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I don't understand `tr` apparently. < 1489953783 0 :augur!~augur@c-98-210-157-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489953864 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mkx < 1489953864 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :key=$(mk "$@") && echo "$key" && chmod +x "$key" < 1489953866 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/mk < 1489953867 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[[ "$1" == ?*//* ]] || { echo usage: "mk[x]" file//contents >&2; exit 1; }; key="${1%%//*}"; value="${1#*//}"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "$key")" && echo "$key" < 1489953973 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/lowercase2c < 1489953974 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: mk[x] file//contents < 1489953985 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/lowercase2c// < 1489953987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/lowercase2c < 1489954019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "#/bin/bash\ntr A-Z a-z\ntr Ø ø" > bin/lowercase2c < 1489954021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1489954028 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/lowercase2c < 1489954028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#/bin/bash\ntr A-Z a-z\ntr Ø ø < 1489954032 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1489954040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/lowercase2b//s/\\n/\n/g < 1489954041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/lowercase2b//#!/bin/bash \ tr A-ZØ a-zø < 1489954051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/lowercase2c//s/\\n/\n/g < 1489954053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/lowercase2c//#/bin/bash \ tr A-Z a-z \ tr Ø ø < 1489954061 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lowercase2c BRØ < 1489954092 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1489954098 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives up
< 1489954104 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/lowercase2b < 1489954106 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1489954110 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/lowercase2c < 1489954112 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1489955433 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489955556 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489955796 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489955801 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1489956379 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489956414 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489956482 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489956617 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489956683 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489956872 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489956913 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Kvikkalkul14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51382&oldid=34661 5* 03EzoLang 5* (+25) 10Use Wayback Machine for the homepage link, as original is 403 now < 1489957195 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :one question I have and I do not know where else to ask it (at least on irc): Do programs today need anything more, generally, than the level of primitive recursive functions? Say that I have the usual event loop structured program. I expect all the event handling code not needing Turing completeness in expressiveness. < 1489957243 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mainly asks because of the esotaric language LOOP is an example of language that isnt Turing complete but is on the level of primitive recursive functions.
< 1489957282 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1489957776 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: Well, the difference between primitive recursion and turing complete languages is actually quite small, since for any primitive recursive time bound f(x) you can simulate a Turing machine for f(x) steps in a primitive recursive function (this is related to the "one while is enough" idea for while programs) < 1489957842 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: In practice I think people want a) data structures, likely with sharing, which is mathematically unpleasant b) an expressive language c) not bother with termination proofs (and that's where restricting to primitive recursion may hurt you a lot) < 1489957893 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, object|structs heap is a given for what I am thinking about < 1489957916 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1489957916 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what if there is a cycle in there... what does "primitive recursion" mean then? < 1489957930 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's about the point where I want to stop thinking about this) < 1489958011 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointer|reference following is an activity that sometimes results in endless loops that make single threaded programs seem frozen. < 1489958080 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :That there is a limit on how deep or long such pointer chasing can go on is a desireable attribute < 1489958121 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1489958268 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :however most of the datastructures I see today, that could have cycles in them are graphs describing relations between objects. Most other things fall into trees, finate arrays or maps (finate at one instant of time between execution of instructions) < 1489958284 0 :sebbu2!?@? NICK :sebbu < 1489958294 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite? < 1489958310 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite < 1489958518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489958748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489959182 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1489959213 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1489959649 0 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1489959837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) test < 1489959838 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( test < 1489959840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :] test < 1489959841 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ test < 1489959841 0 :ffj-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: |value error: test < 1489960296 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1489960405 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489960486 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489960935 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1489961619 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cvqrunodutubghyp JOIN :#esoteric < 1489961741 0 :kiki`!uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-orotwkijkvdgjska QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1489962225 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1489962579 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1489962698 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489963308 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489963853 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1489964135 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1489965369 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1489965863 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-idyfszilahoenicj QUIT :Changing host < 1489965863 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1489965863 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host < 1489965863 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-idyfszilahoenicj JOIN :#esoteric < 1489966700 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In GURPS game I may soon play, my character's friend is fight with whip (5 yards long) and crossbow. A whip in GURPS is not very good at penetrating armour (it has Armor Divisor (0.5), meaning the target's armour is divided by 0.5 (or multiplied by 2)), and takes two seconds to ready after use, and has -2 to defense, but is more effective at disarming, can entangle opponents, and can "crack" to improve damage. < 1489966815 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zemcurka6b9s6d.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1489966964 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 2