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< 1488067992 0 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin QUIT :Quit: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying...
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< 1488068746 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my touchpad driver has an annoying feature where sometimes if i scroll down a bit (with two fingers) and release, it immediately starts scrolling fast in the opposite direction... is this common?
< 1488068880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i cannot seem to reproduce it on purpose
< 1488068884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you maybe accidentally touching it in another place at the same time?
< 1488068896 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds familiar but I don't think I've had that exact issue.
< 1488068936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be? i've tried to disable all manner of extra gestures (although the driver keeps removing options, now it no longer allows me to do nothing for 3 fingers)
< 1488068970 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried installing a different operating system hth
< 1488068976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth
< 1488068996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the Asus
< 1488068999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1488069003 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1488069010 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK.
< 1488069023 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this is in IE, so technically that could have the blame too...
< 1488069050 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the channel topic supposed to be quoting that Adams thing?
< 1488069060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, it's doing it very badly.
< 1488069083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't use any other programs with scrolling, so wouldn't know
< 1488069115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. what would be better?
< 1488069145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1488069165 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The channel almost, but not quite, entirely without esolang discussions | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | For extensive phở testing, use #esoteric-blah
< 1488069175 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i should have actually looked it up
< 1488069218 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION did now
< 1488069345 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, there's a PPCG question that's a miniature esolang design contest
< 1488069353 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've designed an esolang for it but am having problems proving it TC
< 1488069366 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not surprising, as the language is something of a cross between Incident and Malbolge
< 1488069399 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think.
< 1488069428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( just use Malbolge Unshackled hth)
< 1488069434 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* )
< 1488069480 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did y'all prove that other thing I/O-complete yet?
< 1488069504 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone said it had spread to a discord chat
< 1488069520 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony, i think
< 1488069644 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if it combines incident's ability to use whichever tokens with malbolge's insistence of having specific character subsets in specific spots, it could get awkward
< 1488069656 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other thing? []+=`?
< 1488069660 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1488069682 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the language is much more elegant than Incident /or/ Malbolge
< 1488069711 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1488069722 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also less syntactically complex than either, which is probably good for my sanity
< 1488069787 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which rhino
< 1488069792 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/rhino
< 1488069953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rhino -e test
< 1488069954 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invalid option "-e test" \ Usage: java org.mozilla.javascript.tools.shell.Main [options...] [files] \ Valid options are: \     -?, -help          Displays help messages. \     -w                 Enable warnings. \     -version 100|110|120|130|140|150|160|170 \                        Set a specific language version. \     -opt [-1|0-9]      Set opti
< 1488069964 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rhino -e test
< 1488069967 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :js: uncaught JavaScript runtime exception: ReferenceError: "test" is not defined.
< 1488069984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rhino -e print "Hi"
< 1488069986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :js: Couldn't read source file "Hi: Hi (No such file or directory)".
< 1488069997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rhino -e 'print "Hi"'
< 1488069999 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :js: "<command>", line 1: missing ; before statement \ js: print "Hi" \ js: .........^
< 1488070015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rhino -e 'print "Hi";'
< 1488070016 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :js: "<command>", line 1: missing ; before statement \ js: print "Hi"; \ js: .........^
< 1488070044 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rhino -e 'print("Hi");'  # it's just a function call
< 1488070046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi
< 1488070053 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1488070067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( did i mention i don't actually know javascript )
< 1488070088 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx rhino-e//rhino -e "$1"
< 1488070090 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhino-e
< 1488070118 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rhino-e print(+[]);
< 1488070118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rhino-e: not found
< 1488070123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1488070136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv {,bin/}rhino-e
< 1488070139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1488070142 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rhino-e print(+[]);
< 1488070145 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0
< 1488070288 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rhino-e print(+[]==+[]);
< 1488070290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1488070304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rhino-e print(+[]==[]);
< 1488070306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1488070341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rhino-e print(+[]==[]+[]);
< 1488070343 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1488070355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't doing this very well
< 1488070363 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rhino-e print([]==[]_
< 1488070364 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rhino-e print([]==[])
< 1488070365 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :js: "<command>", line 1: missing ) after argument list \ js: print([]==[]_ \ js: ............^
< 1488070366 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :false
< 1488070378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY
< 1488070428 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rhino-e print([][+[]]);
< 1488070430 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined
< 1488070432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay
< 1488070493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rhino-e print([][+[]][+[]]);
< 1488070495 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :js: uncaught JavaScript runtime exception: TypeError: Cannot read property "0.0" from undefined
< 1488070517 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`js print("we had this");
< 1488070519 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had this
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< 1488070524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1488070527 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/js
< 1488070527 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackego.esolangs.org/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/js
< 1488070552 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to move your rhino-e into bin/js for simplicity, but there was one already.
< 1488070561 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a lot more elaborate.
< 1488070574 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which rhino
< 1488070575 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/rhino
< 1488070585 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't get an URL to that. :/
< 1488070614 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it might look quite similar except without the "-e".
< 1488070643 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file /usr/bin/rhino
< 1488070644 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/rhino: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
< 1488070655 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 cat /usr/bin/rhino
< 1488070656 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:#!/bin/sh \  \ JAVA_CMD="/usr/bin/java" \ JAVA_OPTS="" \ JAVA_CLASSPATH="/usr/share/java/js.jar:/usr/share/java/jline.jar" \ JAVA_MAIN="org.mozilla.javascript.tools.shell.Main" \  \ ##  \ ## Remove bootclasspath overriding for OpenJDK since \ ## it now use a mangled version of Rhino (in sun.org.mozilla.rhino package) \ ## \ ## Referen
< 1488070660 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1488070675 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` diff /usr/bin/rhino bin/js
< 1488070676 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8,11c8,10 \ < ##  \ < ## Remove bootclasspath overriding for OpenJDK since \ < ## it now use a mangled version of Rhino (in sun.org.mozilla.rhino package) \ < ## \ --- \ > ## Fix for #512498 \ > ## Change Bootclasspath when using OpenJDK because OpenJDK6 \ > ## bundle his own release of Rhino. \ 16c15,19 \ < ## \ --- \ > isOpenJDK=`$JAVA_CMD -versi
< 1488070705 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a different version.
< 1488070730 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :sled bin/js//s,\$@,$*,
< 1488070736 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/js//s,\$@,$*,
< 1488070738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/js//#!/bin/sh \  \ JAVA_CMD="/usr/bin/java" \ JAVA_OPTS="" \ JAVA_CLASSPATH="/usr/share/java/js.jar:/usr/share/java/jline.jar" \ JAVA_MAIN="org.mozilla.javascript.tools.shell.Main" \  \ ## Fix for #512498 \ ## Change Bootclasspath when using OpenJDK because OpenJDK6 \ ## bundle his own release of Rhino. \ ## References: \ ## <https://bugs.launc
< 1488070779 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the "$@" was really a good idea there, because there was already that implicit -e. True, you could provide extra arguments, but they would have had to go *after* the source.
< 1488070915 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm
< 1488070953 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`js print([[][+[]]+[]][+[]][+[]]);
< 1488070955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u
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< 1488071137 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No one's using `edit #scow
< 1488071274 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think people have been editing much in general.
< 1488071761 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how does x86 protected mode segmentation work again
< 1488071789 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like does it actually involve segment registers or is it a page table type thing
< 1488071836 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does sort of involve segment registers, in that you put "descriptors" in them, and the descriptors are basically some flag bits + an index into one of the descriptor tables.
< 1488071863 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the descriptor table entry then contains the segment base address, limit (size) and more boring bits.
< 1488071886 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1488071898 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sizeof (void *) is... what, just the address part?
< 1488071937 0 :krok_!~krok@static-50-53-174-215.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1488071964 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, everyone pretty much just configures it to be as close to a flat memory model as possible, and just does "architectural" things with segments.
< 1488071986 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So C pointers are just the offset part, and the segments are implied from context.
< 1488072156 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, terminology fail on my behalf.
< 1488072163 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you load in the segment register is a "selector".
< 1488072181 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "descriptor" is the descriptor table entry, which is what the selector is referring to.
< 1488072199 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 64 bit mode, the segment registers are actually forced to cover the whole 64 bit address space, with the exception of gs, which has a base stored in an MSR.
< 1488072208 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fs as well.
< 1488072230 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right.
< 1488072265 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there was something a little complicated with the vestigial segmentation in 64-bit mode.
< 1488072286 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm, I wonder what the intended use for the second one is... thread local storage, and user accessible part of some kernel level thread info?
< 1488072289 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1488072322 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like while the fs/gs base was in an MSR so that you could load a full 64-bit address there, you could also load them via descriptors, or some-such.
< 1488072348 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well right, i'm aware that in practice it was just flat
< 1488072350 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I don't know
< 1488072366 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I have no real need to find out either)
< 1488072375 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm curious how, conceptually, you're meant to represent non-flat pointers in the c memory model
< 1488072425 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Well, I mean, you could implement it so that pointers (segment selector, offset) pairs, and every memory allocation adds a new segment descriptor in the table.
< 1488072444 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you intend to have *standard* C semantics, you'd have to have pointers be (segment selector, offset) pairs.
< 1488072447 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You'd run out of descriptors pretty fast.)
< 1488072463 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you need a new descriptor for each allocation
< 1488072468 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you wish to have objects span segments (e.g. real mode segments) you need to have complicated pointer arithmetic.
< 1488072502 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Well, because then deallocation would be just removing the descriptor.
< 1488072516 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So okay, you wouldn't exactly "need" that.
< 1488072531 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's the obvious kind of mapping for leveraging all the segmentation synergies.
< 1488072671 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the one where you could conceivably get into trouble with invalid pointers before actually dereferencing them, since loading an invalid selector to a segment register would cause a #GP.
< 1488072700 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I can't think of a concrete example where you'd be doing that without intending to access some memory there.
< 1488072735 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The somewhat more likely use case would be using it a bit like (crap) pages.
< 1488072762 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly for the 286's 16-bit protected mode.
< 1488072857 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: For context, this was re the C rationale's explanation for why any use of an invalid pointer is undefined, not only dereferencing: http://sprunge.us/SfKi
< 1488072897 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes.
< 1488072920 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect such an implementation would be *most* likely on a VM architecture.
< 1488072934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was some non-segmented architecture that that was problematic for, wasn't there?
< 1488072950 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Say, one crafted to make C memory fuckups hard to do anything with other than crash.
< 1488072959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when are we all switching to the mill twh
< 1488073020 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1488073109 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you should invest your spare CHF in mill computing inc. hth
< 1488073158 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION screws up, invests it in a computerized flour mill
< 1488073380 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1488073385 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, there computing progress ground to a halt
< 1488073473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :computing progress goes boinc
< 1488073778 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: People always mention that "some computers" [weasel words][citation needed] will cause a fault of some sort if you load an invalid pointer to an "address register", but they never seem to actually cite sources.
< 1488073795 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:///14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51097&oldid=45032 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+437) 10
< 1488074102 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I remember this coming up when we were considering porting Multics to a (then) new Honeywell process (I think it was the DPS/88). -- The new hardware trapped when loading addresses into pointer registers, --" (random forum posting)
< 1488074167 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, here's a little better quote, with an example as well: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.std.c/VoPl6SiejEk
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< 1488074175 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe should've gone to comp.std.c in the first place.)
< 1488075046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:///14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=51098&oldid=51097 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+117) 10/* Even Faster Counter */ *BONK*
< 1488075214 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the "Future Systems" computer would be error if you load an invalid address?
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< 1488077440 0 :alercah!~alercah@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode x and x
< 1488077441 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0078 LATIN SMALL LETTER X] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0078 LATIN SMALL LETTER X]
< 1488078982 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-68.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1488079379 0 :alercah!~alercah@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode lol
< 1488079380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L]
< 1488079384 0 :alercah!~alercah@corn-syrup.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(had to check)
< 1488079853 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hаh
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< 1488087312 0 :zgrepc_!?@? NICK :zgrepc
< 1488088377 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guten matin ha!
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< 1488127499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was a fast log to read
< 1488127612 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1488127621 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 107
< 1488127622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :107.00°F = 41.67°C
< 1488127635 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, you're so fast today, HackEgo
< 1488127673 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf do you have that temperature at this season
< 1488127696 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1488127924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good
< 1488127971 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quick-footed shadowboxing oerjan jumps over the lazy log
< 1488128031 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping
< 1488128032 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1488128047 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nub $ sort "the quick-footed shadowboxing oerjan jumps over the lazy log"
< 1488128048 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( almost surfing at the speed of light! )
< 1488128050 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : " -abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz"
< 1488128094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm thought you'd missed the r but there's another one.
< 1488128109 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :two
< 1488128115 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish
< 1488128151 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, another one, if you look at what's left of the original
< 1488128207 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, right, that's TOTALLY what i did, um.
< 1488128332 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: have you looked at "girls love robots"?
< 1488128427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "my boyfriend is so metal" )
< 1488128487 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :girls love robots and pizza and hate nerds; however they don't mind being near nerds if they have pizza.
< 1488128507 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what kind of message this game is supposed to convey, but the puzzles are kind of fun.
< 1488128536 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though very repetetive, but there are a few cute twists)
< 1488128600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*repeteteve
< 1488128629 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp repe[^ ]*ve
< 1488128632 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: have not
< 1488128641 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repetive:A repetive action is one that tries to repeat something, but fails miserably.
< 1488128791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: when you said you did some nonobvious puzzles, did you mean that the solutions were nonobvious or that the puzzles themselves were nonobvious twh
< 1488129174 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the former. one case where I had trouble finding the right rule because the training example I encountered at first were too simple.
< 1488129198 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which type?
< 1488129201 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe two cases where the environment played into the puzzle in a surprising way
< 1488129235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which cases twh
< 1488129248 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it
< 1488129258 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game is this?
< 1488129267 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Witness
< 1488129269 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the poochness
< 1488129281 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might?
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< 1488130587 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spec of the language I'm writing contains the following text: 'Please note that if `A` is a Character variable containing `"7"` and `B` is a Character variable containing `"0"` and `C` is a String variable containing `"0"`, that `A - B` yields a Character containing BEL (the Bell Character), but that `A - C` yields a String `"55"` (55 being the ASCII value of 7).'
< 1488130602 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a little weird...
< 1488130652 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why...
< 1488130677 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, char vs string
< 1488130706 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes sense when you think really hard about it, but not much to the average user...
< 1488130740 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that if both "7" and "0" are strings, the result is "7" (a string).
< 1488130904 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's not a BrainFuck clone...
< 1488131054 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At least it's not a BrainFuck clone" may be a little weird, but at At least it's not a BrainFuck clone.
< 1488131060 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1488131064 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid paste
< 1488131452 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1488131462 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the extra At
< 1488131468 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1488131555 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, this function I've been working on for about a week is now 4000 lines long and counting...  I probably should have broken it up more.
< 1488131594 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :break it up now
< 1488131667 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too late
< 1488131693 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not even finished, though I may be half-way through now...
< 1488132526 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mention "The Witness" game but do you know "The Wit.nes" game?
< 1488133349 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote
< 1488133350 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :614) * oerjan concludes that unsafeCoerce has no effect on strictness
< 1488133396 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it, beyond possibly confusing the strictness analysis...
< 1488133459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you converted a lazy field to a strict one, perhaps. i don't remember what i was testing.
< 1488133472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or the other way)
< 1488133499 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm how does unsafeCoerce work with the new levity stuff...
< 1488133555 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kind-preserving
< 1488133556 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e says: What, unsafeCoerce# is kind-preserving? how boring :/
< 1488133567 0 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( is that still true? )
< 1488134040 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`scheme
< 1488134041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which of You Burns Brightest?
< 1488134043 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwhahahaha
< 1488134098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t GHC.Prim.unsafeCoerce#
< 1488134100 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> b
< 1488134111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got something else in ghci
< 1488134123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeCoerce# ::
< 1488134123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :  forall (q :: GHC.Types.RuntimeRep) (r :: GHC.Types.RuntimeRep) (a :: TYPE
< 1488134123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                                                         q) (b :: TYPE r).
< 1488134126 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :  a -> b
< 1488134145 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which looks like it _doesn't_ require the same kind
< 1488134154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(8.0.1)
< 1488134245 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so, apparently no.
< 1488134373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude GHC.Prim> unsafeCoerce# (1# :: Int#) :: Int
< 1488134373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault/access violation in generated code
< 1488134436 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote unsafeCoerce#
< 1488134436 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc says: Dangerous-looking argument. Probable cause: bad unsafeCoerce#
< 1488134444 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I meant the one above.
< 1488134468 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAY AHEAD OF YOU
< 1488135871 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC has a -XUnicodeSyntax extension, but I think should also have -XAntiUnicodeSyntax extension which allow you to import modules that have names containing non-ASCII characters without needing any non-ASCII characters in your own file.
< 1488135902 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can combine these extensions, although there wouldn't be much point in doing so.)
< 1488135931 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Haskell standard is Unicode-based, deal with it.
< 1488136174 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaScript allow you to avoid needing non-ASCII character in your file even if importing something that does use non-ASCII character in their identifiers, by using \u in the names. The same syntax would not be suitable for Haskell so a new kind should be needed
< 1488136206 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably do it with template haskell
< 1488136234 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. quasiquotes
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< 1488136533 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose so. That would be a way to do it without a new extension
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< 1488148197 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing is that although JavaScript has this "anti-Unicode" syntax it is not needed so much as Haskell would be, due to how JavaScript is working.
< 1488148478 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1488148597 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of that proof that shows you can write any javascript with like just six different characters or something
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< 1488148838 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although it isn't really what I quite meant anyways; I meant having to do with how objects in JavaScript, you will have all of the functions imported from another module probably as properties on some object, so you can use the [ ] syntax to access instead of . syntax so it can be a string literal or a string constant name (declared by "const" at the top of your program for example)
< 1488148928 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, that's basically what that ()[] javascript thingy does
< 1488149374 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :five, according to ais523 http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/111002
< 1488149456 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a TC subset though
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< 1488150057 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: probably six for what zzo38 wants, but that's very interesting, I haven't seen it yet
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