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00:03:26 <xfix> `len 🇨🇦
00:03:29 <HackEgo> 2 codepoints \ 4 Java characters \ 8 UTF-8 bytes
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00:26:03 <\oren\> I made a me me
00:26:07 <\oren\> http://img.ctrlv.in/img/17/02/14/58a24d5ede43b.jpg
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00:52:20 <erkin> Very danque
00:59:34 <quintopia> yes
01:01:19 <oerjan> wat
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02:30:00 <\oren\> oerjan: "dank" is a common adjective used to describe me mes
02:31:02 <erkin> zesty
02:39:14 <oerjan> gnirly
02:47:32 <quintopia> we definitely need to switch to zesty
02:47:42 <quintopia> dengue memes
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06:29:13 <kmc> having progressed to dank memes we are only steps away from Kardashev level II
06:37:10 <hppavilion1> TIL Peer Gynt is a real fictional character, not just made up for `? peer
06:41:26 <rdococ> hmm4
06:41:34 <rdococ> how about this:
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06:43:56 <rdococ> nvm...
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07:16:56 <rdococ> hm
07:51:38 <rdococ> esoteric map projections?
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09:48:20 <b_jonas> int-e: I think I also have an entry for his second dungeon
09:48:26 <b_jonas> `grwp dungeon
09:48:53 <int-e> b_jonas: I'm sure shachaf will be thrilled to hear about it.
09:48:57 <HackEgo> angband:Angband is Morgoth's second dungeon. When the valar finally defeated Morgoth, they were too lazy to go to for 100% completion, so some evil spirits in Angband survived for a sequel. \ Binary file reflection matches
09:50:26 <int-e> `learn_append reflection//Does this shatter the mirror?
09:50:26 <HackEgo> Can't open wisdom/reflection//doe: Not a directory. \ /hackenv/bin/learn_append: line 5: wisdom/reflection//doe: Not a directory \ Learned 'reflection//doe': cat: wisdom/reflection//doe: Not a directory
09:51:11 <int-e> `learn_append reflection Does this shatter the mirror?
09:51:14 <HackEgo> ​/hackenv/bin/learn_append: line 5: wisdom/reflection: Permission denied \ Learned 'reflection': perl.-i.-p.-e.s/\n/ /.wisdom/reflection.
09:51:21 <int-e> (oh)
09:51:35 <int-e> `revert
09:51:36 <HackEgo> Done.
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09:52:30 <int-e> `` ls -la wisdom/reflection
09:52:31 <HackEgo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 18 Feb 14 09:51 wisdom/reflection -> /proc/self/cmdline
09:54:38 <b_jonas> `` grep -li dun\[g]eon wisdom/*
09:54:40 <HackEgo> grep: wisdom/¯\_(ツ)_: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory \ wisdom/angband
09:54:47 <int-e> so apparently perl -i does not follow the symlink and instead overwrites the file, interesting.
09:54:50 <b_jonas> `` grep -li dun\[g]eon wisdom/* 2>&1
09:54:51 <HackEgo> grep: wisdom/¯\_(ツ)_: Is a directory \ wisdom/angband \ grep: wisdom/le: Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°_o): Is a directory \ grep: wisdom/¯\(°​_o): Is a directory
09:54:57 <b_jonas> `` grep -li dun\[g]eon wisdom/* 2>/dev/null
09:54:58 <b_jonas> sorry
09:54:58 <HackEgo> wisdom/angband
09:55:09 <b_jonas> wait, what happened to utumno?
09:55:11 <b_jonas> `? utumno
09:55:12 <HackEgo> utumno? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
09:55:27 <b_jonas> ah, shachaf forgot it
09:55:31 <b_jonas> aww
09:55:36 <b_jonas> that one wasn't so bad, was it?
09:56:49 <b_jonas> I'll have to put these notes to somewhere else than wisdoms
10:21:44 <b_jonas> Good news: I bought a headphone for my mobile phone that has a bulit-in analog volume control. Most headphones either don't have a volume control, or have one that actually only asks the mobile phone to change the volume, which doesn't let me change volume fine grained enough.
10:25:30 <b_jonas> It works as expected.
10:26:37 <b_jonas> As in: gives sound to my ears in telephone, media player, and radio modes, and the analog volume control dial lets me change the volume indeed.
10:27:52 <b_jonas> How long it will last is anyone's guess. The speed these get amortized because the wires are bent, I should probably order the next copy in the weekend unless I find a bug in this one.
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11:18:22 <Taneb> Hmm
11:18:29 <Taneb> I cannot see how to do this assignment question
11:18:40 <Taneb> (prove that the product of two algebraic groups is an algebraic group)
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11:34:23 <boily> `wisdom
11:34:24 <HackEgo> flagpole//A flagpole is like a tadpole, but with a flag on top.
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12:18:59 <boily> `wisdom
12:19:00 <HackEgo> hackego//HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico!
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12:34:07 <erkin> `help
12:34:07 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
12:34:24 <erkin> `whoami
12:34:25 <HackEgo> whoami: cannot find name for user ID 5000
12:34:28 <erkin> Neat
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16:22:04 <oerjan> @tell b_jonas <b_jonas> `` grep -li dun\[g]eon wisdom/* <-- grwp can be used with `` too and then you don't get all those directory errors hth
16:22:04 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
16:22:48 <b_jonas> ``` grwp -li dun\[g]eon
16:22:50 <HackEgo> angband
16:23:03 <b_jonas> ok
16:23:14 <b_jonas> `wisdom
16:23:16 <HackEgo> whom//See: who
16:23:16 <b_jonas> `quote
16:23:17 <HackEgo> 196) <oklopol> ah yes, indeed, alan turing was gay and stupid
16:23:17 <b_jonas> `recipe
16:23:18 <HackEgo> ​------------------------ \ 1 pk All parmesan, peeled, chopped \ 1 tb Sugar \ 1 Egg \ 1/2 c Dry white wine \ 1 ts Salt \ 2 ts Sesame seeds \ 2 c Oil for date \ 4 c Plunces calories well \ 1 ts Baking powder \ 2 tb Ground almonds \ 8 oz Canned shredded corn \ \ Mix together the flour, sugar, the baking dish, garlic, shortening, and b
16:23:20 <b_jonas> `scheme
16:23:21 <HackEgo> Nature Shields Its Own
16:23:30 <b_jonas> `? who
16:23:31 <HackEgo> Who cares about ancient cases anyway?
16:24:21 <b_jonas> that looks qutie consistant
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16:24:35 <b_jonas> though I don't know what Plunces calories well means
16:24:55 <b_jonas> `recipe
16:24:55 <HackEgo> wl. Stir well. \ \ Cool all speed and almost section of its of the black peppers dish. Serve \ immediately on a platter. Set aside. Combine peachio and crushed apples. Add salt. \ \ Heat chocolate chips; cut out to one liquid of a large skillet. \ \ Remove from the oven to make a bowl of a spoon in egg white. Bake until the \ browned cru
16:25:29 <b_jonas> What's this obsession of this cookbook with skillets?
16:27:11 <oerjan> you need a skillet to kill it ===\__/
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16:28:33 <oerjan> oh wait
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16:28:44 <oerjan> * ==\____/
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16:37:20 <rdococ> /(^o^)/
16:37:34 <rdococ> ,-/ ,-/
16:41:21 <int-e> ____) ,-/',-/` <-- sled with dogs
16:43:01 <rdococ> heh
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16:59:57 <Phantom_Hoover> "Efficiently implementing Eodermdrome is impaired by the fact that selecting match graphs requires an implementation of the subgraph isomorphism problem, which is NP-complete in its base case."
17:00:20 <Phantom_Hoover> that's pretty misleading given that ullman's algorithm is polynomial in the eodermdrome use-case
17:04:33 <oerjan> shocking
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17:13:12 <rdococ> would you be interested in seeing an esoteric language purely based on transistors and pull resistors?
17:13:30 <rdococ> it's even more basic than NOR :P
17:18:03 <Phantom_Hoover> rdococ, imho yes
17:20:06 <rdococ> well, if I don't mess it up like usual
17:21:07 <rdococ> I'm planning on four functions: P-transistor, N-transistor, and a pull resistor which can pull a high impendance value to true or false
17:21:26 <rdococ> I'm naming them TP, TN, RT and RF respectively
17:21:41 <rdococ> haven't figured out the rest
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17:38:17 <rdococ> hi
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17:44:29 <rdococ> hm
17:44:41 <rdococ> should my language have variables or should every program be an expression?
17:47:54 <rdococ> whadya think Phantom_Hoover?
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17:48:40 <rdococ> hi anothertest
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18:04:20 <rdococ> ergh
18:04:48 <\oren\> rdococ: you need some way to have loops in the circuit graph
18:05:05 <\oren\> that implies some sort of label or variable-like thing
18:09:14 <rdococ> is that for turing completeness or do you mean like the physical shape of a circuit?
18:09:49 <Phantom_Hoover> rdococ, i mean the 'language' here is just for circuit specification right
18:09:58 <Phantom_Hoover> so variables etc seem a minor sideshow
18:10:37 <Phantom_Hoover> put them in though b/c esolangs trying to be 'difficult' by leaving out convenience features is boring
18:10:47 <rdococ> I agree
18:10:52 <rdococ> I'll put them in.
18:11:40 <rdococ> I keep being pinged but have no idea what channel
18:13:53 <rdococ> hm. I need a label for the high impendance state
18:16:46 <rdococ> argh this is driving me crazy
18:18:54 <rdococ> hexchat
18:21:46 <oerjan> `cat bin/learn_append
18:21:47 <HackEgo> ​#!/bin/bash \ topic="$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\? .*//')" \ stuff=$(echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f2-) \ perl -i -p -e 's/\n/ /' "wisdom/$topic" \ echo "$stuff" >>"wisdom/$topic" \ echo -n "Learned '$topic': " \ cat "wisdom/$topic"
18:22:50 <oerjan> nah
18:25:16 <rdococ> hm
18:25:19 <rdococ> how about arrays?
18:25:33 <rdococ> I'm thinking about using recursion for loops...
18:25:47 <rdococ> also, types like numbers and stuff, how about them?
18:37:38 <rdococ> functions would be integrated circuit
18:46:10 <\oren\> well a number would be an array of bits/wires right
18:47:00 <rdococ> yeah
18:47:09 <rdococ> I'm actually implementing a 2 bit adder as an exaple
18:47:36 <rdococ> I have tables but only so circuits can have multiple outputs
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18:53:12 <\oren\> https://arxiv.org/abs/1002.2284v2
18:53:28 <\oren\> markets are efficient IFF P=NP
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18:56:46 <int-e> how close is that from deriving a contradiction from the premise?
18:56:59 <int-e> hmm, close ... to.
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19:02:50 <int-e> never mind, that is just a pile of bullshit.
19:04:27 <int-e> has anybody bothered to find a mistake in https://arxiv.org/abs/1609.09562 yet?
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19:26:15 <rdococ> I guess I'll have a simple while and if construct along with functions called circuits
19:26:59 <rdococ> hm
19:27:06 <rdococ> whadya think, should functions be first-class?
19:32:14 <rdococ> nah
19:38:06 <\oren\> aesthetic
19:38:13 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjgHHmFQKmU
19:41:39 <int-e> "Banks Look to Cellphones to Replace A.T.M. Cards" WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?
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19:43:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Transistor]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50946 * Rdococ * (+3228) hi
19:44:09 <int-e> I mean, you're just replacing a hardened smartcard with limited but fairly well understood capabilities by a Turing complete device riddled with malware.
19:45:40 <rdococ> I think the one small advantage here is compactness, but even that's a disadvantage and that's if you don't count malware - what if you lose your cellphone or get it stolen
19:46:13 <rdococ> I would much rather have multiple cards for different things
19:49:13 <int-e> apparently the bank's incentive is lower transaction times... people can prepare the atm interaction on their phone in advance (one scenario described involves the customer going to the ATM with a QR code displayed on the phone)
19:49:41 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Transistor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50947&oldid=50946 * Rdococ * (+36) /* Adders */ 11 + 1 = 100 lol oops
19:50:24 <int-e> (oh and I guess that since the bank doesn't own the phone it'll reduce their expenses for reissuing cards... people won't expect their banks to buy them a new phone)
19:50:55 <\oren\> if they do that I'll just use cash for everything and go to the teller for everything
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19:51:13 <rdococ> it's always about money, but I guess they need it to survive
19:51:32 <rdococ> this world is much like nature, there's an economical food cycle
19:51:45 <rdococ> a financial ecosystem
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19:57:39 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Rdococ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50948&oldid=50610 * Rdococ * (+146) user page says hi
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20:04:57 <\oren\> wait, since when is Pew die pie a nazi and not just a moron swede gamer?
20:05:20 <pikhq> Since August, apparently, he went off the deep end into antisemitism.
20:05:26 <pikhq> For realsies.
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20:08:58 <\oren\> "The Daily Stormer, which is described as the ‘top hate site in America’ by the Southern Poverty Law Centre, even went as far as to change its slogan to ‘The world’s #1 PewDiePie fansite’."
20:09:11 <\oren\> WUT. How is 2017 even real
20:09:29 <\oren\> like wut the fuck is even
20:09:30 <Taneb> \oren\, the world ended like over 4 years ago now
20:12:03 <\oren\> anyway, I thought in sweden they exiled the nazis to lappland
20:16:18 <olsner> like most of europe we put them in parliament instead
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20:18:00 <\oren\> well I like jacksepticeye better anyway
20:18:02 <\oren\> hopefully he's not as fashy
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20:33:03 <\oren\> wait, my font doesn't have 猫?
20:33:15 <\oren\> `unicode 猫
20:33:17 <HackEgo> U+732B CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-732B \ UTF-8: e7 8c ab UTF-16BE: 732b Decimal: &#29483; \ 猫 (猫) \ Uppercase: U+732B \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right)
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21:50:45 <Zarutian> pikhq: re antisemitism: I have heard it is often confused with antizionism. The former is against an Abrahamic faith/religion the latter is against certain group of nostalgic people that wants to rebuild a city that never actually was on land they dont own but have the means to buy.
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22:00:36 <Zarutian> \oren\: re nazi or equiv in parliament: it has been well known for a long while that xD is basically consist(ed|s) mostly of persons suspectable to such memeplexes.
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23:06:18 <boily> `wisdom
23:06:19 <HackEgo> not found//not found? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
23:06:33 <boily> fungot nound.
23:06:34 <fungot> boily: i think we should add a captcha somewhere in that. because i'm specializing in natural language processing. forward error correction.
23:06:46 <boily> fungot: stop being sentient.
23:06:46 <fungot> boily: i think so. my scheme skills are obviously rusty: ( case s ( ( 1 2 3 4))) result form body)
23:07:18 <shachaf> obviously
23:12:22 <boily> hellochafungot. mustard for pooches: http://mojopet.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/m/u/muttstard.jpg
23:12:23 <fungot> boily: that would have a var called add1 in the user-env, and the making it more public now was to get the from its local environment vs. sequencing.)
23:19:00 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSMaB_Fzks0
23:19:49 <boily> he\\oren\! a very good album.
23:20:07 <boily> discovering vapourwave and mallsoft?
23:20:21 <\oren\> mostly
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23:25:20 <boily> trick shot around a pooch: https://youtu.be/b3sOOBicyDY
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23:48:43 <boily> `wisdom
23:48:45 <HackEgo> ​ĥäŝkéll//ĥäŝkéll is not what you were looking for. Try again.
23:49:32 <boily> fifth world haskell.
23:49:34 <boily> `wisdom
23:49:35 <HackEgo> b//B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop strange letters altogether.
23:51:08 <fizzie> `grwp BBC
23:51:09 <HackEgo> a:A is a village in Norway. The BBC invented it by not understanding things on top of letters. \ Å:Å _is_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. \ b:B is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're even worse than the BBC and drop strange letters altogether. \ bbc:The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation
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