00:08:57 <boily> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
00:11:39 <boily> oh. hm. eh. I may have hit the trunk branch by accident. darn.
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00:51:25 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50917&oldid=50908 * Oerjan * (+57) /* Introductions */ Fnord
00:56:18 <boily> Hi all, I'm boily, and I'm a sane person.
00:56:59 <oerjan> Hi boily. I'm oerjan, and I stopped pretending to be sane long ago.
00:57:16 <shachaf> oerjan: what did you think about that text file i linked the other day hth
00:57:53 <oerjan> pretty sure i didn't see that.
00:59:30 <oerjan> i was just finding that
00:59:50 <oerjan> i remembered it had something like sb or the like
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01:01:51 <oerjan> i guess i do present myself as safe.
01:02:30 <oerjan> perhaps pathologically so.
01:02:55 <shachaf> see also -intelligence, -being-a-teacher, -psychotic-girl, etc.
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01:04:20 <HackEgo> riggs: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
01:04:58 <riggs> I thought this might be a place for masons
01:05:39 <boily> We do not talk about passion fruits like Roald Dahl.
01:05:44 <riggs> naw, more like manley p hall
01:08:57 <HackEgo> Royal Dahl is the king of Norway.
01:09:06 <shachaf> royal dahl invented royal jelly, right?
01:09:13 <shachaf> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Jelly_(short_story)
01:10:11 <boily> apricot jelly is the best.
01:10:17 <HackEgo> king of norway? ¯\(°_o)/¯
01:10:27 <HackEgo> 6544:2016-01-11 <shachäf> le/rn dahl/Royal Dahl is the king of Norway. \ 6542:2016-01-11 <shachäf> le/rn dahl/Royal Dahl is the king of Norway. \ 3139:2013-06-16 <Phantom_Hoovër> learn dahl dih dahl dahl
01:11:20 <oerjan> it was so important it had to be added twice.
01:11:45 <HackEgo> 6543:2016-01-11 <shachäf> mkx bin/slashlearn//sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; echo "$value" > "wisdom/$key"; echo "Learned \xc2\xab$key\xc2\xbb"
01:11:48 <HackEgo> fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky canary king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg
01:11:59 <HackEgo> Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions.
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01:12:18 <boily> we still have our royal couple reigning over this chännel.
01:12:56 <boily> triple? unless you are counting Norway.
01:13:19 <oerjan> `` hg cat -r 6542,6544 wisdom/'royal dahl'
01:13:20 <HackEgo> hg: parse error: can't use a list in this context
01:13:29 <oerjan> `` hg cat -r 6542 wisdom/'royal dahl'
01:13:30 <HackEgo> wisdom/royal dahl: no such file in rev f96c3ec3cd15
01:13:41 <oerjan> `` hg cat -r 6544 wisdom/'royal dahl'
01:13:42 <HackEgo> wisdom/royal dahl: no such file in rev 24299ed00557
01:13:57 <oerjan> `` hg cat -r 6544 wisdom/dahl
01:13:58 <HackEgo> Royal Dahl is the king of Norway.
01:14:02 <oerjan> `` hg cat -r 6542 wisdom/dahl
01:14:32 <HackEgo> boily:“Only sane adverb” boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He is also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken, a METARologist, seriously lacking in the f-word department, a thwack doctor, and a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring. \ bo
01:14:51 <HackEgo> dahl:Royal Dahl is the king of Norway. \ elendil:Elendil's dad, Amandil, decided to try to save Numenor from its awful end by sailing to the Undying Lands and appealing to the Valar, but got lost. His family founded a new empire in Middle-earth. Elendil himself later made the Last Alliance with the elf king Gil-Galad, against Sauron. \ fizzie:fizzi
01:15:06 <HackEgo> 2/5:\ fizzie:fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky canary king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg \ frenemy:Frenemy is the relationship between Kirby and king Dee Dee. \ it:It little profits that an idle king, / By this still hearth, among these barren crags, / Match'd with an aged wife, I
01:15:14 <HackEgo> 3/5:mete and dole / Unequal laws unto a savage race, / That hoard, and sleep, and feed, and know not me. / I cannot rest from travel: I will drink / Life to the lees; all times I have enjoy'd / Greatly, have suffer'd greatly, both with those / That loved me, and alone; on shore, and when / Thro' scudding drifts the rainy Hyades / Vext the
01:15:23 <HackEgo> 4/5: dim sea: I am become a name; / For always roaming with a hungry heart / Much have I seen and known; cities of men / And manners, climates, councils, governments, / Myself not least, but honour'd of them all; / And drunk delight of battle with my peers, / Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy, / I am a part of all that I have met; /
01:15:27 <HackEgo> shachäf b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs
01:15:33 <HackEgo> 5/5: Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' / Gleams that untravell'd world, whose margin fades / For ever and for ever when I move.
01:15:37 <HackEgo> 8403:2016-06-08 <shachäf> sled wisdom/it//s\\ $\\\\ \ 8397:2016-06-07 <b_jonäs> `` >>wisdom/it echo -n "Taneb invented it. " \ 7481:2016-04-18 <b_jonäs> `` sed -i "s#governments.*#governments, / Myself not least, but honour\'d of them all; / And drunk delight of battle with my peers, / Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy, / I am a part of
01:17:21 <HackEgo> 1/1:shachaf:Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions. \ victoria:Queen Victoria is the most victorious queen the world has ever known, even having won at the not dying contest.
01:17:34 <shachaf> looks like there's plenty of royalty to go around
01:18:06 <HackEgo> 1/1:shakespeare:And besicue and a saint and son the may bean the butcious and one them bear and may me for here the mance of my lord, and leave and thou arl of the prince and will not and and hour blood and the be buralont;
01:18:38 <oerjan> `1 grwp -i '\bemp[ei]'
01:18:40 <HackEgo> 1/6:atrocity:Atrocity is the capital of the Atrocious Empire. \ coruscant:Trantor is a planet covered entirely by a city. It is the capital of the Galactic Empire, and the home for the biggest library in it. \ damnation:The Damnation was an evil empire of yore, until the dam no longer held and they got flooded. \ elendil:Elendil's dad, Am
01:19:03 <oerjan> `1 grwp -l -i '\bemp[ei]'
01:19:20 <HackEgo> 1/1:atrocity \ coruscant \ damnation \ elendil \ iron general \ ostrich \ procrasti \ trantor \ turkey \ vim
01:19:45 <HackEgo> vim equals to cmxciv or cmxcvi, depending on which part of Roman Empire you are.
01:21:14 <HackEgo> The Iron General is Siona Patricia pa-Lehyll pa-Drusia Ishgur-Sal, Lady of Tyren, sometime general in His Majesty's army, dame of the Empire, and senator of Tuqnil, in http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2003-12-04.0383.html
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01:25:57 <oerjan> `learn Vulture is like Culture, but far less picky about the food.
01:25:59 <HackEgo> Learned 'vulture': Vulture is like Culture, but far less picky about the food.
01:26:09 <oerjan> i felt like adding more birds
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01:30:13 <boily> vultures don't seem to be edible.
01:30:36 <oerjan> possibly not even to vultures.
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01:51:47 <boily> fungot: octanitrocubane.
01:51:48 <fungot> boily: sicp is a better algoritm for that one) of asperger's, i would want
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02:08:30 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Billiards]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50918&oldid=50913 * Alexander-liao * (+363)
02:08:59 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Billiards]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50919&oldid=50918 * Alexander-liao * (-2)
02:41:28 <boily> the saturday was snowy, but I have new rice.
02:41:39 <quintopia> have you hacked any good hacks hackly?
02:41:41 <boily> did you saturday good?
02:42:03 <shachaf> Are the grains long or short?
02:42:14 <quintopia> i can only have rice once a week if i don't eat too much cereal on this diet, and i would almost always rather have more fruity oatmeal
02:42:23 <boily> quintopia: well, yes, but only for internal company stuff. I like dependency injection.
02:42:32 <shachaf> Dependency injection is the scow.
02:42:49 <boily> hellochaf. it's white jasmine rice, 18 lbs. I don't know about any arsenic.
02:42:53 <quintopia> but yes, i worked 6 hours and then walked like 10 miles
02:43:28 <boily> jasmine, but basmati's good too.
02:44:08 <shachaf> Rice's theorem, on the other hand, is pretty scow.
02:44:09 <boily> dependency injection is amazing. promotes good architecture, separation of concerns, easily testable...
02:45:57 <quintopia> rice's theorem is good for DRM protection
02:46:36 <oerjan> `learn Codependency is a programmer disease caused by having too much code pending.
02:46:41 <HackEgo> Learned 'codependency': Codependency is a programmer disease caused by having too much code pending.
02:47:17 <boily> DRM is distilled scow.
02:48:47 <oerjan> SOMEONE'S KILLING ALL THE GOOD PEOPLE
02:49:34 <shachaf> oerjan has forgotten how to count that low.
02:49:38 * quintopia still holding out hope for cure for aging
02:50:04 <shachaf> Just inject yourself with the blood of young people.
02:50:07 <quintopia> shachaf: nah, some of his god-great-great-great-great-grandchildren are only 100
02:51:21 <oerjan> i don't have godchildren.
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02:55:15 <quintopia> oerjan: impressive how you outlived them!
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09:00:20 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ALL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50920&oldid=50667 * IQBigBang * (+1265)
09:02:09 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[ALL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50921&oldid=50920 * IQBigBang * (+0)
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10:25:34 <rdococ> probabilistic booleans would solve various problems...
10:26:11 <rdococ> but they're fascinating.
10:26:22 <myname> nah, they are not that weird
10:27:05 <rdococ> anyway, I'm working on some kind of fuzzy/random/probabilistic/thing.
10:27:37 <rdococ> the % function would create a new random variable that only gets measured at the end of the program.
10:28:19 <rdococ> "x = 50%", for example. if you did "y = !x" then "z = x&y" then z would be 0%, because !x is never x.
10:39:06 <rdococ> I don't get this: http://tinyurl.com/hwwtqjs
10:41:42 <myname> there is a video about "can you guess what this blackboxed circuit does by doing just one meassurement"
10:41:59 <myname> it explains qubits quite well
10:42:06 <rdococ> but how does one input change the other?
10:44:34 <rdococ> myname: how does one input change the other output?
10:51:22 <rdococ> I 50% get it and 50% don't
10:51:26 <rdococ> my mind entered a superposition
10:51:53 <myname> i hope it's 50%... right
10:52:24 <rdococ> I forgot about entanglement
10:53:00 <myname> which is like _the_ reason to actually use qubits
10:54:29 <rdococ> so the link I gave was entanglement?
10:55:06 <rdococ> but Quirk says each result is 25% likely...
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11:11:20 <HackEgo> `[hd]o[aw][gt] [<filename>] is a set of commands for querying HackEgo hg logs. `hoag is the basic version. d adds revision numbers and dates, w looks only in wisdom, and t lists oldest first.
11:11:55 <HackEgo> If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss:
11:12:22 <HackEgo> 10235:2017-02-12 <shachäf> forget it \ 8403:2016-06-08 <shachäf> sled wisdom/it//s\\ $\\\\ \ 8397:2016-06-07 <b_jonäs> `` >>wisdom/it echo -n "Taneb invented it. " \ 7481:2016-04-18 <b_jonäs> `` sed -i "s#governments.*#governments, / Myself not least, but honour\'d of them all; / And drunk delight of battle with my peers, / Far on the ringi
11:13:56 <rdococ> wonder what a quantum programming language would look like
11:14:44 <rdococ> you mean it's actually a good idea?
11:15:48 <wob_jonas> why was there never a wisdom/nem ? should I retroactively create it so shachaf can delete it too?
11:17:51 <rdococ> oh you're talking to someone else
11:21:36 <shachaf> wob_jonas: I mean, yes, I deleted it.
11:22:28 <wob_jonas> shachaf: same thing but translated. just like how wisdom/ha is the same part of the translation of the poem wisdom/if is from
11:22:53 <HackEgo> If you can make one heap of all your winnings / And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, / And lose, and start again at your beginnings / And never breathe a word about your loss:
11:22:57 <HackEgo> Ha van szíved, hogy mindazt, mit elértél, / Ha kell, egyetlen kockára rakd, / s túltegyed magad, ha veszteség ér, / s ne legyen róla többé egy szavad
11:23:03 <shachaf> Why do you make these things?
11:23:36 <wob_jonas> shachaf: I was trying to make some entries for common words, hoping people would create better entries for those common words
11:24:17 <shachaf> I mean, make a bad entry in the hope that people would replace it with a good entry.
11:24:23 <wob_jonas> but most of the common words already exist
11:24:42 <shachaf> If you want there can be a database of proposed entry keys that people can peruse.
11:25:04 <shachaf> I don't understand why you make all those wisdom entries, though.
11:27:39 <wob_jonas> how about just it//Taneb invented it.
11:27:49 <Taneb> I didn't invent everything
11:30:18 <wob_jonas> Taneb: of course not. you just _reinvented_ everything, because Gauss has invented all the mathematics everyone else will do in the next thousand years, but for most of it, he didn't bother writing it down because it was either too trivial or too advanced for his contemporaries to understand.
11:30:44 <wob_jonas> So since Gauss, nobody can invent any new mathematics
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11:33:36 <Taneb> Not until 2855 at least
11:33:41 <Taneb> So we just gotta wait
11:34:13 <wob_jonas> not just wait as such, but we have to reinvent some of that mathematics
11:34:36 <rdococ> that's kind of depressing
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12:06:01 <wob_jonas> A die is a small cube roleplayers roll for random generation, what happens to their character when they roll low, the mold used for making it and miniatures, and the paint giving them color.
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13:31:24 <HackEgo> tanebventions: math//Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, the reals, Lambek's lemma, Curry's paradox, the long line, locales, and histograms.
13:44:12 <int-e> "The space corresponding to a spatial locale is not uniquely determined, but it becomes so if one requires that it be sober, i.e. that every prime open set should be the complement of the closure of a unique point."
13:44:20 <fungot> int-e: making output go sloooow..
13:47:48 <HackEgo> Binary file reflection matches
13:47:57 <HackEgo> Binary file reflection matches
13:48:07 <HackEgo> 422) <monqy> cigaretes and drunking "lame highs for lame people" <oerjan> yeah if it doesn't make you go crazy and shoot at people, it's not worth it. take it from a norwegian.
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14:19:21 <HackEgo> segmentation fault//The Segmentation Fault is just of the Silicon Valley and is known to produce various hiccups at the most inconvienent times.
14:21:47 <boily> . o O ( pajamas and foxes and Canadian zombies in a chasm )
14:21:54 <HackEgo> snow//Snow is Jesus's dandruffs, and some suspect that he is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen. It turns the sidewalks to white as if someone broke a lot of styrofoam on it.
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14:32:56 <boily> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/Q/quantum-bogodynamics.html
14:34:48 <rdococ> when my computer was exposed to bogon radiation a small while ago I had to find a cluon emitting USB flash drive
14:38:59 <boily> the best way to operate a machine is stark naked. it helps telluric currents to flow.
14:39:36 <rdococ> I'll have to come up with my own at some point
14:39:41 <rdococ> I like the computron idea
14:40:18 <wob_jonas> rdococ: you know, how like ether is a real substance, but people don't care about that and give the word an entirely different mystical meaning unrelated to it
14:40:29 <rdococ> something that's funny though, hotter, disordered things actually have more information, but it's funny they have less computron information
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14:41:30 <wob_jonas> thouhg at least sometimes they write ætheric instead
14:41:50 <rdococ> can you point me to a page on etheric and telluric?
14:41:54 <boily> there may have been a few ætheric chickens here and there...
14:42:06 <boily> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telluric_current
14:43:38 <boily> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_(classical_element)
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14:44:31 <wob_jonas> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether
14:44:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Douira * New user account
14:47:45 <rdococ> could I submit one of the jargon entries?
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14:49:12 <boily> from where to where?
14:49:33 <rdococ> on the catb jargon website
14:50:02 <boily> from the jargon file? to the jargon file?
14:50:26 <boily> oh! you'd have to contact ESR for that.
14:50:34 <rdococ> I could just put it in wisdom
14:50:46 <rdococ> since HackEgo doesn't seem to know what ether is
14:51:00 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
14:51:06 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
14:51:28 <HackEgo> `learn creates a wisdom entry and tries to guess which word is the key. Syntax (case insensitive): `learn [a|an|the] <keyword>[s][punctuation] [...]
14:51:40 <HackEgo> le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past.
14:52:22 <boily> `slwd le\/\/rn//ss/s//s
14:52:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50922&oldid=50917 * Douira * (+412) introduction of myself
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14:53:08 <rdococ> "Ether is the medium by which light waves travel. When you see light, you're actually hearing it through your eyes."
14:55:05 <rdococ> whadya think of the concept?
14:56:49 <rdococ> woah, I can actually hear you
14:57:32 * boily luminously thwacks rdococ
14:57:50 <rdococ> that made a loud light
14:59:50 <rdococ> I just discovered a new particle... saltons
15:04:03 <boily> that's just plain old regular salt. maybe kosher, if you're lucky.
15:04:19 <boily> or perhaps calcium chloride, for making pickles...
15:05:00 <rdococ> yeah you're probably right
15:05:16 <rdococ> I need a new, good idea for an esolang
15:05:26 <rdococ> I'm thinking probability
15:05:31 <boily> . o O ( rubbing cucumbers on people to make pickles... )
15:05:33 <rdococ> or perhaps fuzzy logic
15:05:38 <wob_jonas> isn't salt one of the four classical alchemical elements, with mercury, urine, and sulphur being the others?
15:08:33 <wob_jonas> so these would be made of atoms, named saltine, no wait, saltine is an existing word for something else, salton, mercurion, urinon, sulphuron.
15:08:48 <wob_jonas> and of course mercury is the one everyone hates
15:09:01 <wob_jonas> because they have to wait years for a Trabant
15:09:02 <rdococ> so from those four you can make everything else?
15:09:17 <wob_jonas> rdococ: I don't know how it works, ask Paracelsus
15:09:54 <boily> rdococ: if you want probability, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Strelnokoff
15:11:01 <wob_jonas> no, if you want probability, try http://esolangs.org/wiki/My_Unreliable_Past
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15:14:47 <HackEgo> grey//Grey is a common misspelling of Gey
15:15:09 <HackEgo> waltext2//WalText2 is WalrusOS's vector font renderer. See "WalText2i" for the improved version.
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15:19:44 <rdococ> a linear 0-100 percentage probability system might work... kinda
15:20:22 <rdococ> in fact, I could make a family of languages where each pseudo-qubit can be represented as an n-sphere
15:21:35 <rdococ> then the real life one would be Bloch-2, a 4d one Bloch-3, a simpler 2d system Bloch-1 and an even simpler 1d system Bloch-0
15:23:48 <rdococ> I should stick with 1d for now maybe?
15:23:52 <rdococ> what do you guys think?
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15:37:38 <quintopia> wob_jonas: why did you give me the RIP
15:38:20 <wob_jonas> quintopia: you posted that Raymond Smullyan died
15:40:29 <quintopia> yeah but i posted it many hours before. lel.
15:42:06 <wob_jonas> quintopia: I'm not reading the channel all the time day and night, despite what it sometimes looks
15:43:34 <quintopia> sure but when you tell me RIP apropos of nothing when im not here,it seems like ive done something bad or am going to die myself. most disconcerting.
15:43:41 <rdococ> I found the valentines character: 몾
15:45:34 <wob_jonas> it was among the most recent lines you said so I hoped context was clear
15:47:00 <quintopia> no i didnt read my lines back that far. i only read my last 3 lines.
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16:18:18 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Hsorenson]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50923&oldid=50887 * Hsorenson * (+4)
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16:27:53 <int-e> why doesn't that surprise me
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17:41:03 <oerjan> `8ball should i create a new it entry?
17:41:04 <HackEgo> I'm a random number generator that reads from a file. Make your own damn decisions.
17:41:21 <oerjan> . o O ( was hoping for "It is certainly so." )
17:42:04 <oerjan> `learn It would have been certainly so, but `8ball refused to coöperate.
17:42:06 <HackEgo> Learned 'it': It would have been certainly so, but `8ball refused to coöperate.
17:42:49 <int-e> `8ball What is this?
17:42:50 <HackEgo> Concentrate and ask again.
17:43:20 <HackEgo> The 1 is just for disambiguation.
17:43:47 <HackEgo> `1 <cmd> is equivalent to `` <cmd>, except that it splits the output into irc-sized pieces. The next pieces can be viewed with `spam. See also `2.
17:44:06 <oerjan> we might be a bit inconsistent on with and without `
17:45:55 <int-e> . o O ( 2b | ~2b == -1 )
17:46:19 <oerjan> why -1, that's the question
17:46:34 <int-e> (the 0x were omitted for legibility)
17:47:08 <int-e> also, I rather strongly suspect that the precedence is messed up.
17:48:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50924&oldid=50901 * Douira * (+10) added SUL
17:49:00 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[SUL]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50925 * Douira * (+197) created with stub info
17:49:02 <int-e> 0x2b | ((~ 0x2b) == (-1)) is not really what I had in mind, though it's still true in C.
17:49:09 <oerjan> > 2 b .|. complement (2 b) -- the complement ruins it
17:49:13 <lambdabot> • Ambiguous type variable ‘a0’ arising from a use of ‘show_M151638560072...
17:49:13 <lambdabot> prevents the constraint ‘(Show a0)’ from being solved.
17:49:28 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[SUL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50926&oldid=50925 * Douira * (+2)
17:49:36 <lambdabot> from the context: (Num (t -> t1), Num t)
17:49:48 <oerjan> i guess the instance isn't there
17:50:12 <int-e> the pointwise evaluation instance was lost when mokus took over from Cale, if I have the lambdabot ownership history straight
17:53:33 <oerjan> i guess that one is standard
17:54:05 <int-e> instance Monoid b => Monoid (a -> b) -- Defined in ‘GHC.Base’
17:54:39 <int-e> (that reference to GHC.Base is not very helpful)
17:55:40 <oerjan> well it does have a hackage page iirc
17:56:13 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[SUL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50927&oldid=50926 * Douira * (+523) added some info
17:56:27 <int-e> Well, Data.Monoid would be more helpful, but of course less accurate.
17:56:30 <oerjan> that module is listed, but not linked
17:57:02 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[SUL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50928&oldid=50927 * Douira * (+0)
17:58:27 <int-e> Hmm, geolocation and proxies can be confusing. "Someone near Brunswick, NI, DE with the IP address [redacted] is trying to access a secure portion of your [redacted] account."
17:59:52 <oerjan> . o O ( [redacted] can be confusing )
18:00:40 <oerjan> well that's just [redacted]
18:03:12 <Taneb> My [redacted] revision is going well today
18:03:40 <int-e> Taneb: does it involve locales?
18:03:58 <Taneb> int-e, nah, I've been doing that for fun lately
18:05:27 <HackEgo> Locales are just frames, which are just complete Heyting algebras. Taneb accidentally invented them by asking about lattices. The only locale available in #esoteric is en_NZ.UTF-8.
18:06:19 <HackEgo> Algebraic geometry is so complicated that Taneb had to take an exam in it before he could invent it.
18:06:37 <Taneb> oerjan, haven't actually got the result back yet
18:06:56 <Taneb> The maths department here takes a while sometimes
18:07:26 <Taneb> (As it happens, I'm revising a follow-on module from algebraic geometry)
18:08:59 <oerjan> int-e: where is Brunswick, NI, DE anyway? the main german one is in lower saxony...
18:09:35 <int-e> oerjan: lower saxony = Niedersachsen = NI
18:09:42 <int-e> (the last one is a guess)
18:10:54 <int-e> http://www.datendieter.de/item/Liste_Abkuerzungen_Bundeslaender ... apparently it's standard.
18:11:11 * oerjan somehow expected NS. oh wait...
18:11:44 <int-e> (and saxony would be SA, right?)
18:12:09 <int-e> (or would that be saarland...)
18:13:46 <oerjan> Sachsen-Anhalt, i should think.
18:14:07 <oerjan> looking at that list, i indeed suspect they explicitly avoid those acronyms.
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18:14:42 <oerjan> because many of the others use (sub)word initials
18:14:42 <int-e> Saxony-Anhalt <-- looks weird.
18:16:12 <oerjan> in fact, all the others for which it would be reasonable do, except that HB is for some reason Bremen instead of Hamburg.
18:16:24 <int-e> anyway, it had nothing to do with the knights who say Ni!.
18:17:52 <oerjan> although SA might be for the same reason they don't use BR - too many possibilities.
18:19:26 <int-e> I like HB and HH for being mildly obscure.
18:20:34 <oerjan> oh is the H for hanseatic
18:20:39 <int-e> (Bremen and Hamburg were both members of the Hanseatic League; the H stands for "Hansestadt")
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18:22:46 <int-e> heh, it's even mentioned on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_former_Hansa_cities#Modern_Hansa_connections ... though for license plates, but the idea is the same.
18:23:11 <wob_jonas> no way. H is for hard, B is for blunt, and F is for ... I dunno
18:23:42 <int-e> frivolous comes to mind
18:24:30 <oerjan> indeed, lower saxony was only established in 1946, just at the time when avoiding the acronym would be most prudent.
18:24:32 <int-e> (I spelt that correctly, so lucky)
18:25:55 <int-e> . o O ( NI is short for lower saxony, for reasons. )
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18:46:25 <wob_jonas> It's funny how every country has these crazy two-letter abbreviations of constituent states or areas, but Hungary uses the much simpler solution of just making the names of settlements unique so you don't have to qualify them.
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19:12:00 <HackEgo> le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past.
19:13:29 <fizzie> For anyone in the UK, if you're interested in old Unixy hardware, I'm trying to get rid of these things: https://goo.gl/photos/Dm6jNwCQnrWwfLDk7
19:13:44 <fizzie> (Elsewhere too if you're willing to come here to pick them up.)
19:15:52 <HackEgo> 10238:2017-02-12 <boil̈y> forget grey \ 8220:2016-05-31 <hppavilion[1̈]> le/rn Grey/Grey is a common misspelling of Gey
19:19:10 <oerjan> . o O ( people seem to have gotten more deletionist with wisdom/ lately )
19:25:46 <int-e> none as extreme as ais523 though
19:26:48 <oerjan> ais523 is extreme de... oh right.
19:27:15 <oerjan> we've deleted that part of history.
19:27:19 <int-e> actually, why did http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/af386cb583b9 catch so many files?
19:28:05 <oerjan> int-e: echo gives no actual line breaks
19:28:25 <int-e> ah, of course. thanks.
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19:30:39 <int-e> `cat bin/pastequotes
19:30:39 <HackEgo> #!/bin/sh \ if [ "$1" ]; then quote "$1"; else allquotes; fi | paste
19:36:06 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[SUL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50929&oldid=50928 * Douira * (+5051) work in progress!
19:36:57 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[SUL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50930&oldid=50929 * Douira * (-4)
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20:44:12 <Taneb> Matrices are bloody useful things in maths
20:44:22 <Taneb> They seem to come up all over the place
20:45:15 <fizzie> Mattresses are p. useful as well.
20:47:21 <shachaf> Taneb: what's useful about them twh
20:47:46 <Taneb> A bunch of subsets of matrices are interesting algebraic groups
20:48:47 <Taneb> We also seem to be trapped in a matrix of solidity, a situation I rather enjoy
20:49:20 <HackEgo> 240) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity
20:50:58 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Nairb]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50931 * Ivancr72 * (+393) Created page with "Nairb is a brainfuck derivate by [[User:Ivancr72]]. ==Overview== 2 new commands, <code>:</code> (print decimal) and <code>=</code> (set to zero). And some commands have a op..."
20:51:47 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50932&oldid=50924 * Ivancr72 * (+12)
20:52:15 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)fuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50933&oldid=50848 * Ivancr72 * (+34)
20:53:04 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:Ivancr72]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50934&oldid=50846 * Ivancr72 * (+11)
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21:52:11 <HackEgo> A matrix is just a matrix. People use them to communicate. Taneb invented them.
21:53:42 <LKoen> well thank you I wasn't sure matrices were matrices but now it's clear
21:54:03 <HackEgo> wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and, uh, that other one? it started with, like, an ø?
21:56:42 <int-e> . o O ( Matrices of size 9 and 24 are remembered for being loud and noisy. )
21:57:57 <int-e> I'm not sure when I saw my last dot matrix printer in action, outside of (youtube) videos.
22:00:01 <int-e> Oh, probably it was some ATM for printing bank statements, maybe 10 years ago.
22:00:47 <int-e> (not sure whether those *are* called ATMs, probably not, but after expanding the acronym the term is technically correct)
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23:49:24 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Underload]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50935&oldid=50546 * Challenger5 * (+212) /* Input extension */
23:49:37 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Talk:Underload]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50936&oldid=50935 * Challenger5 * (+96) /* Input extension */
23:53:23 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Betaload]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50937&oldid=50914 * Challenger5 * (+135) /* Commands */
23:53:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Betaload]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50938&oldid=50937 * Challenger5 * (-1) /* Examples */