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Also the resulting code is unreadable.) 00:17:41 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:28:15 boily: we /very/ rarely use [[Category:Shameful]] 00:28:33 and I'm normally quick to argue with people who use it in places other than where it's really necessary 00:28:51 but if someone added it to that article, I think I'd turn aside and not interfere 00:29:12 even so, though, I don't think it's quite as bad as, say, ESME or Snack 00:30:09 or FURscript 00:31:32 ESME brings back repressed memories... 00:32:12 apparently I capitalised it wrong, but I'm not sure it matters 00:35:23 -!- tromp has joined. 00:35:58 `wisdom 00:35:59 overworld//The overworld is an alternative name for the world map, used by players of the Zelda video games. 00:36:17 `wisdom 00:36:19 nvd//nvd is what Taneb calls himself when he wants to feel professional. 00:37:09 being professional is unconfortable. cramped clothes that restrain movement freedom. 00:37:46 boily: back when I was at school, my school uniform was basically a suit but didn't restrain freedom at all, really 00:37:49 Is there a standard symbol (or at least a standard name) for the following function (expressed in Python)?- f = lambda x, k: 0 if (x % k != 0) else f(x/k, k)+1 00:37:55 why can't they make actual professional suits like that? 00:38:07 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 00:38:27 hppavilion2: "the number of times k divides x"; it's a builtin in Jelly 00:38:43 which offers the alternative names "order", "multiplicity", and one other 00:38:45 so maybe it's not that standard 00:38:54 ais523: Ah :/ 00:39:00 ais523: I'd kind of like a nice symbol :P 00:39:14 well Jelly calls it ȯ 00:39:19 ☃(n,p) 00:39:20 a #/ b might work 00:39:22 which isn't a commonly used symbol in other contexts 00:39:27 ais523: OK, what's Jelly? 00:39:47 (there'snow particular reason) 00:39:59 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 00:40:04 Ah, found it 00:41:02 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Jelly exists, although it's just a "this is where you find more information" 00:41:12 but it's famous for having a lot of builtins 00:56:11 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 01:07:22 -!- tromp has joined. 01:15:11 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:15:52 -!- augur has joined. 01:17:25 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:20:26 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 01:21:05 Jelly is very APLy... 01:21:32 boily: Is this an APL Jelly joke? 01:22:30 no, I don't spread jokes like that. 01:29:54 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 01:36:53 -!- Zarutian has joined. 01:39:08 boily: Jelly is a J derivative, and J's an APL derivative, so the APLishness is not surprising 01:39:29 that explains things. 01:42:43 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:45:30 -!- tromp has joined. 01:46:09 -!- kiki` has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 02:01:32 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 02:08:25 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:11:28 I managed to make a program it can execute a fragment shader program and write output on stdout, but there is two problem. One is that it results 8-bit precision and I cannot figure out how to make 16-bit precision, other is that it creates a window on the screen, even if I do not need it; if I don't display the window then nothing else works. 02:20:55 -!- tromp has joined. 02:35:25 -!- boily has quit (Quit: INVASIVE CHICKEN). 03:34:34 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:42:13 -!- doesthiswork1 has joined. 03:42:13 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:46:03 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 03:53:29 -!- tromp has joined. 04:10:21 -!- hppavilion2 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:16:23 -!- augur has joined. 04:20:53 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 04:31:11 <\oren\> TIL the pound symbol is a stylized L with a stroke 04:36:44 <\oren\> I had thought it was a stylized E 04:41:47 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Sunjay * New user account 04:45:35 It's... Literally short for "libra". 04:48:28 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50808&oldid=50801 * Sunjay * (+190) 04:48:40 [wiki] [[Brainfuck algorithms]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50809&oldid=49627 * Sunjay * (+76) /* if (x) { code } */ 04:53:24 <\oren\> pikhq: libra, as in the scales? 04:53:30 <\oren\> interesting 04:54:33 Ł 04:56:33 <\oren\> ¦. 04:56:44 <\oren\> ♎ 04:58:08 yes, hence also lb 04:59:19 Is there a such thing as "name table texture" in OpenGL? 05:02:30 \oren\: Well, strictly "libra" as in the Roman unit of mass. 05:02:32 But, yes. 05:02:38 s/mass/weight/ 05:02:53 O, it is a Roman unit of weight? I didn't know that? 05:15:26 <\oren\> "Historically, £1 worth of silver coins were a troy pound in weight; in August 2016 this amount of silver was worth approximately £170 sterling." 05:17:38 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Hsorenson * New user account 05:23:34 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50810&oldid=50808 * Hsorenson * (+250) 05:23:46 [wiki] [[User:Hsorenson]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50811 * Hsorenson * (+195) Created page with "A GNU and FOSS junkie who also programs. I like making experimental things, some of which are programming languages to some definition. '''Links: ''' [https://github.com/..." 05:40:12 [wiki] [[User:Hsorenson]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50812&oldid=50811 * Hsorenson * (+70) 06:17:09 -!- augur has joined. 06:21:28 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 07:10:47 -!- hppavilion2 has joined. 07:23:12 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 07:23:13 -!- doesthiswork1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:23:38 -!- oerjan has joined. 07:30:24 @messages-cloudy 07:30:25 boily said 7h 55m 55s ago: chúc mừng năm mớerjan! 07:31:47 @tell boily bood mornily! 07:31:47 Consider it noted. 07:44:20 @tell ais523 (HackEgo's actual purpose became somewhat lost with all the rainbow welcomes and the like, but it was originally meant to be an EgoBot that anyone could update rather than just it owner) <-- i think it got lost because it lacks so many of EgoBot's features (even after the ibin/ transfer), so people never bothered using it for the same things. 07:44:20 Consider it noted. 07:46:06 egobot? 07:46:11 @tell ais523 basically, if it had _really_ been a drop-in replacement from the start, i think things would have turned out different. 07:46:11 Consider it noted. 07:47:19 myname: EgoBot used to be the main bot of this channel. it was mainly an interpreter for heaps of esolangs, but not as extensible as HackEgo 07:47:50 it also had !bfjoust. 07:48:16 It also tended to get subtly broken on a whim. 07:48:26 Or profoundly. 07:48:32 * oerjan has forgotten about that. 07:50:22 many of the languages have been transfered to HackEgo's ibin/ directory, but the surrounding framework is partly missing. 07:51:12 (e.g. we can't run things from the web. and the userinterps that was what extensibility EgoBot allowed, did not get transferred.) 07:51:27 *that were 07:52:10 `slashes 07:52:48 No output. 07:52:58 `slashes hi 07:53:04 Can't open hi: No such file or directory at /hackenv/bin/slashes line 7. 07:53:10 bah 07:53:17 `which slashes 07:53:19 ​/hackenv/bin/slashes 07:54:24 it is awkward to create commands that work with _both_ HackEgo's one-liner assumption and EgoBot's whole-file assumption. 07:55:45 @tell ais523 and the impedance mismatch between the systems is so big that no one has dared to try to unify them properly. 07:55:45 Consider it noted. 08:07:53 -!- yorick has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:10:06 -!- yorick has joined. 08:10:06 -!- yorick has quit (Changing host). 08:10:06 -!- yorick has joined. 08:17:43 -!- augur has joined. 08:18:00 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 08:22:31 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 08:38:20 `unidecode 𝄫 08:38:26 ​[U+1D12B MUSICAL SYMBOL DOUBLE FLAT] 09:02:13 `unidecode ȯ 09:02:26 ​[U+022F LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DOT ABOVE] 09:17:40 -!- ais523 has joined. 09:55:23 does anyone here know of a filesystem that supports bignum-sized sparse files? 09:55:51 i.e. the file itself can be almost arbitrarily large, but contains only a small number of nonzero bytes (which are recorded via their value and position in the file0 10:00:27 on a related note, what does Unary do with characters in the program that aren't '0'? 10:02:23 <^v> ais523, bignum would be pointless for keeping track of files 10:03:29 <^v> 256 bits is enough to count every particle in the universe 10:03:29 not really, sparse files are useful (and nothing's stopping them being way bigger than your disk), so why not arbitrarily large ones? 10:05:34 I just created a 2.2 terabyte file on a 50 gigabyte partition, it takes up less than one kilobyte on disk 10:05:35 next up: sparse bignum 10:05:39 *+s 10:05:47 oerjan: that doesn't even seem entirely useless 10:05:50 <^v> because there is not enough information in the world to store that information 10:06:03 ^v: you're missing the point; not every byte stores information 10:06:12 <^v> ah i see 10:06:13 the file is very compressible 10:06:15 ais523: and then you combine the two hth 10:06:37 oerjan: aren't most of the forms of large primes that we have efficient tests for sparse bignums? 10:06:38 <^v> even with 128 bit pointers you will still never have collisions ever 10:06:55 ais523: hm maybe 10:07:18 ^v: well, I'm mostly thinking of this in terms of writing a Unary interpreter (or a variant that uses '\0' rather than '0') 10:07:23 the question is, how do you store the programs? 10:10:09 well this is obviously possible, it's just a question of whether anything does it 10:10:31 (which i'm not the right to answer) 10:10:48 anyway -> 10:11:08 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Shave the Welsh). 10:33:36 -!- augur has joined. 10:38:48 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 10:48:21 -!- hppavilion2 has changed nick to hppavilion[1]. 10:57:07 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 11:00:01 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Ahto * New user account 11:02:31 does anyone here know of a filesystem that supports bignum-sized sparse files? => whoa... that would be strange. you'd have to design the API very carefully so that you don't run into the problems you'd have if you eg. allowed pathname components longer than 255 bytes (or 255 utf16 units), so you can get stuck with a file on the file syste 11:02:31 m that you can't even delete because you don't have enough memory to store its filename 11:03:03 you'd need a newer version of stat that you can call in such a way that it doesn't return the size of the file, in case the file size is so large the stat would fail because it can't load it into memory 11:03:05 <^v> wob_jonas, wat 11:03:11 well, if you don't allow bignum-sized filenames, if something goes badly wrong you at least have the option of deleting the file 11:03:19 I agree that stat would be a problem, though 11:03:36 ^v: on unix, you can't have filenames longer than 255 bytes long. you can have pathnames longer than that, but you can recurse into directories without using a full pathname. 11:04:09 <^v> i know but bignum sux 11:04:54 on windows, the situation is somewhat similar, filenames can't be longer than 255 bytes long, although they do also put a limit on pathnames, which must be shorter than about like 32k or 64k utf16 units, I don't know which one. 11:05:18 I *think* Hurd allows arbitrarily long filenames, but I'm not sure. 11:05:55 <^v> yeah lets strcmp a 1TB file name 11:07:04 The POSIX API is designed so that you could use it on a system where filenames can be, say, up to 4096 bytes long, or, say, use the full filename encoded in utf8 on windows filesystems; but the unix ABI on current architectures locks down the filenames to 255 bytes because there's an uint8 field for pathname length in the data that getdents and sim 11:07:04 ilar syscalls return. 11:07:48 As a result, linux has some dirty parts for what to do when a windows file system is mounted and the filename is too long for unix. 11:09:35 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50813&oldid=50810 * Ahto * (+828) Fuck you. - Ahto 11:10:27 ais523: anyway, you could try to implement something like this using a table in a database keyed by bignums, with an index that lets you find the right chunk, but I haven't heard of anything like this already existing. 11:11:10 that latest introduction is hilarious 11:11:28 I am personally not really fond of sparse files. They should continue to exist for compatibility, but I think it might have been better if they hadn't been invented back in the ancient unix days. 11:11:55 [wiki] [[Prelude]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50814&oldid=41872 * Ahto * (+2) s/column/line/ because 'line' doesn't make any sense. 11:13:03 fully justified (i.e., it deserves the explanation that we have very few users and comparatively many spammers that have found ways to solve the easier captchas...) 11:17:53 -!- augur has joined. 11:18:06 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:28:13 -!- augur has joined. 11:33:39 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 11:36:10 [wiki] [[User talk:Ahto]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50815 * Int-e * (+518) Created page with "Regarding those hoops, they truly are annoying. Thanks for persevering! The measures evolved over time, as spammers learned to circumvent the simpler measures. Please take int..." 11:47:35 -!- Akaibu has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 12:18:22 -!- LKoen has joined. 12:20:08 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:21:15 -!- ais523 has joined. 12:36:59 [wiki] [[Talk:Forte]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50816&oldid=50804 * Keymaker * (+194) /* Quine */ 12:43:00 [wiki] [[Talk:Forte]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50817&oldid=50816 * Ais523 * (+502) /* Quine */ it probably comes from PPCG 12:43:07 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 12:49:10 -!- Zarutian has joined. 12:51:37 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:53:22 -!- Zarutian has joined. 13:04:36 -!- boily has joined. 13:08:12 `wisdom 13:08:17 test//test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. 13:09:46 @massages-loud 13:09:47 oerjan said 5h 37m 59s ago: bood mornily! 13:10:09 @tell oerjan boerjan matin! 13:10:09 Consider it noted. 13:17:33 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: Reboot). 13:41:41 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 13:46:29 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 13:48:15 -!- FreeFull has joined. 14:00:30 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 14:01:02 `wisdom 14:01:06 jonathan hoag//Hoag is an art critic. 14:01:18 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:02:17 `wisdom 14:02:19 long//Long is the Chinese word for dragon. 14:02:39 `wisdom 14:02:40 erlang//Erlang has tricked people into loving global mutable variables while pretending to embrace immutability. 14:02:58 is that a dig at its channels? 14:03:00 Live, long, and prosper? 14:03:07 Rabbits are made out of erlangs... 14:03:29 Phantom_Helloover, int-ello. 14:03:42 * boily lightly thwack int-e. 0.5 FP. 14:04:05 aren't channels just message passing, so stuff that go through them isn't global? 14:04:10 `wisdom 14:04:11 cut elimination//The cut-elimination theorem states that any Prolog program written using the cut operator ! can be rewritten without using that operator. 14:04:12 * int-e does a sommersault 14:04:37 Prolog and Erlang this morning, oh my... 14:04:47 fungot: have you disturbed the RNG lately? 14:04:47 boily: was going to run out 14:06:11 ok so honestly, i get the impression that the abstractions of laziness and pure functionality in haskell are leaky as fuck and that you end up having to deal with this to write a lot of code in it 14:06:13 how accurate is this? 14:06:38 fungot: be careful, there's light out there and where there's light there are shadows 14:06:38 int-e: it has this weird name and then the operator; sisc evaluates operands right to left. 14:07:12 . o O ( let's just hope that nobody takes this as inspiration for a new esolang? ) 14:07:54 . o O ( Or maybe this will be the first esolang invented by fungot. ) 14:07:55 int-e: so when they were said/ written, which time zone they refer to the variables, and all of the 14:08:08 it's a good start anyway. 14:08:33 part of the *ISC family! 23 essential nutrients! daily fnord requirement! 14:12:42 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:13:59 -!- ais523 has joined. 14:22:26 -!- boily has quit (Quit: DECAY CHICKEN). 14:36:50 -!- LKoen has joined. 14:47:21 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:50:06 ^source 14:50:06 https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 14:54:31 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:56:10 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:57:21 -!- ais523 has joined. 15:08:15 -!- augur has joined. 15:12:55 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 15:13:45 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 15:26:12 -!- LKoen has joined. 15:42:43 -!- lollo64it has joined. 15:44:08 -!- lollo64it has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 15:47:32 -!- ais523 has quit. 16:08:08 -!- Cale has quit (Excess Flood). 16:08:46 -!- Cale has joined. 16:11:01 -!- Cale has quit (Excess Flood). 16:11:26 -!- Cale has joined. 16:24:31 int-e: you don't need a whole language for that, just a macro in an existing language 16:25:03 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 16:34:29 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:35:18 <\oren\> Is using the word "alas" against wikipedia style? 16:41:06 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 16:43:14 -!- Cale has joined. 16:44:30 I don't know 17:03:33 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 17:05:29 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 17:06:01 -!- LKoen has joined. 17:06:52 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:07:15 -!- LKoen_ has joined. 17:08:51 `? ijustneedtheconfusedsmileyface 17:08:52 ijustneedtheconfusedsmileyface? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 17:11:27 -!- LKoen has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 17:18:25 best use of `? to date 17:20:03 ☺ 17:23:05 <\oren\> ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็_(ツ)_ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ 17:25:04 😸 🙌 17:25:34 <\oren\> (ㅍ_ㅍ) (ㅇㅅㅇ) (ㄱ_ㄱ) ㅠ_ㅠ 17:31:54 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:47:15 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 17:49:07 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:49:17 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Leo * New user account 17:49:59 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 17:51:51 @messages-told 17:51:51 boily said 4h 41m 41s ago: boerjan matin! 17:53:38 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50818&oldid=50813 * Leo * (+248) /* Introductions */ 18:05:35 -!- LKoen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:12:32 -!- LKoen has joined. 18:14:18 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 18:22:42 trump: the less immigrants we let in, the better 18:22:44 pence: the fewer 18:22:48 trump: shhh, don't call me that in public yet 18:24:39 [wiki] [[Campfire]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50819 * Leo * (+3928) Created page with "Campfire: an esoteric programming language which is just a heap of branches - and you'll want to set them on fire. https://github.com/barbuz/campfire/ ==Introduction== We all..." 18:25:28 [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50820&oldid=50782 * Leo * (+15) /* C */ Added Campfire 18:25:43 finally an esolang that invites us to burn it 18:26:00 [wiki] [[Campfire]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50821&oldid=50819 * Leo * (-35) 18:39:51 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:42:58 * zgrep brings the kerosene 18:46:15 `learn The `words dictionary framework was designed by Hålgar Oslekk, Bick Noffrey, Guiston Degraîme, Myyntti Raatalla, Gölrika Rosenskild, Waslomir Siwovich, Győrvan Sárbik, and Pastronella Gattrovezzi. 18:46:23 Learned '`word': The `words dictionary framework was designed by Hålgar Oslekk, Bick Noffrey, Guiston Degraîme, Myyntti Raatalla, Gölrika Rosenskild, Waslomir Siwovich, Győrvan Sárbik, and Pastronella Gattrovezzi. 18:47:04 `word 18:47:05 pole 18:47:09 `words 18:47:10 adminathiid 18:47:12 oops 18:47:21 `whoops 18:47:24 ​«wisdom/`word» -> «wisdom/`words» 18:47:25 `forwards 18:47:26 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: forwards: not found 18:47:29 :( 18:48:14 Far words to go, "o" got forwards. 18:49:06 `url bin/whoops 18:49:07 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/whoops 18:49:12 Pastronella Gattrovezzi sounds like a fake italian name 18:49:20 *ding* 18:50:13 i don't get the joke 18:50:25 the joke is that `words creates fake words 18:50:43 `name 18:50:44 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: name: not found 18:50:47 `names 18:50:48 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: names: not found 18:50:49 it created pole 18:51:00 No, `word made pole. 18:51:04 `word 18:51:05 fatimeng 18:51:10 Oh, it did. Ignore me. 18:51:25 `cat bin/word 18:51:25 ​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $VAR1 = { \ 'qz' => { \ 'e' => 1, \ 'k' => 1, \ 'a' => 1, \ ' ' => 9, \ 'i' => 1, \ 'o' => 2 \ }, \ 'sp' => { \ 'w' => 9, \ 'r' => 18:51:37 there are two different mechanisms 18:51:47 readability level over 9000 18:52:03 izabera: well it doesn't always know to avoid the real ones 18:52:24 incidentally, finding a short finnish name that was actually fake was quite hard 18:52:25 but sometimes it does? 18:52:47 `words 20 18:52:49 syncharmfl frf wan cal all rauny yomina mak inht kau jili quate unskindi sppelanelung ebsta dvolgiti abren poning dia persabull 18:53:04 doing pretty well 18:53:12 `words --italian 20 18:53:13 sprollega diaste pare godero sciano ragosci sostireste disti cammo continui libero calvaste amo penare ossimo manato costiranno strapi scariate accopria 18:53:21 :D 18:53:32 `words --russian 20 18:53:34 ​стараввин готов нергаева ылановскомъ недержешя тальн часномигранч канскую пообремецкихъпослента навское высволюбнейсть паруськийским провскосит непресвыя энн оправенной асовек арени 18:53:36 continui libero amo penare are real words 18:53:47 oh wait pare too 18:53:53 and sciano 18:54:26 izabera: are you saying i should put some real names in my designer list 18:54:29 disti too but it's very old 18:54:44 `words --norwegian 20 18:54:45 sprøys avløsning uteheidola navnenesulerer blankerettingene utstinsialen daternet bedøvenspilling fødene høgskunstna klindustrimatsbøl vatiska barneia hjeren eksporsøkontrakten gullregiende urerere tiltrenes feralisebolskum ekspriseoppsven 18:55:42 ok, i see 1 clearly real word and another possible one. 18:55:54 (avløsning and tiltrenes) 18:56:04 it's pretty good 18:58:02 `url bin/word 18:58:03 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/word 19:00:12 what's that share/WordData/$mod ? 19:00:54 `ls share/WordData 19:00:55 Brazilian \ Bulgarian \ CanadianEnglishInsane \ Catalan \ Eng1M \ EngAll \ EngFiction \ EngGb \ EngUs \ Esolangs \ Finnish \ French \ Gaelic \ German \ GermanMedical \ Hebrew \ Irish \ Italian \ Manx \ Norwegian \ Ogerman \ Polish \ Portuguese \ Russian \ Spanish \ Swedish 19:01:13 `url share/WordData/Italian 19:01:14 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/share/WordData/Italian 19:01:20 the models it is using to generate words with 19:01:24 ... 19:01:39 `culprits share/WordData/Brazilian 19:01:44 nitïa 19:01:49 hm it's old 19:02:17 i don't remember who actually added the system, but fizzie would be one major suspect 19:02:57 `file share/WordData/Brazilian 19:02:57 share/WordData/Brazilian: perl Storable (v0.7) data (major 2) (minor 8) 19:03:04 huh 19:03:51 i think `word is just a simple random FSA thing in comparison? 19:03:56 `url bin/word 19:03:56 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/word 19:04:39 huh my browser cannot show that file 19:04:48 `file bin/word 19:04:49 bin/word: Perl script, ASCII text executable 19:04:52 <\oren\> `words --english 19:04:53 Unknown option: english 19:04:57 <\oren\> `words 19:04:59 tether 19:05:02 there are several english options 19:05:03 <\oren\> `words 2 19:05:06 depo potezze 19:05:06 `words -l 19:05:07 valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M 19:05:18 <\oren\> `words --eng-us 10 19:05:19 hat huanar traffengo wyboon yella deeplden purpukovskov furon yelon anno 19:05:26 <\oren\> `words --eng-gb 10 19:05:29 still genebina loodv taxson roing snug miri recto suggli ergy 19:05:55 <\oren\> `words --eng-gb 10 19:05:57 pcraffl yelo manima inkelvey cerce goh sgle teronderlasgrea insti sum 19:06:00 words --esolangs 19:06:04 `words --esolangs 19:06:04 the english modes tend not to look very much like english :P 19:06:05 vowels 19:06:10 `words --esolangs 15 19:06:11 enigma-2d zomb redcodermdromehot shelp 3d thine lentercal-2d suicide brain brainty y minimal fit hsq brainfinifu 19:06:25 those look a lot like esolangs tdh 19:06:28 <\oren\> `words --hebrew 19:06:29 ​צפננות 19:06:33 <\oren\> `words --hebrew 10 19:06:34 ​פעות אספקודש קרופ בראד יוחלפו מאחרוך םכנת ואעירא שוח פריה 19:07:11 <\oren\> is the hebrew option based on modern hebrew or ancient hebrew 19:07:36 `words --manx 20 19:07:37 tentraish ortarnal hroopal coobey ard-vooie-hait malaghey slagh aahag cliagh keckerag bodjal moallyn scoil graih tree groe joneyder brooieitshagh criggad-vooid pontys 19:07:48 `words --finnish 20 19:07:49 hauttujatk-karilla kimpänään uskaisentuva aggressa tiuheellanne mienneettavaksesi kaamillesi kulkeissakkumien salleni leile yksimme perinteknistä aikuunsa hihankinen vastansa ryhmitaan läpukeavien hekstimeävillä koonaan suuntistani 19:07:57 <\oren\> iirc the difference is that modern hebrew has a lot of loanwords from german and polish and such 19:08:52 <\oren\> `words --bulgarian 19:08:54 ​полеймбразчепква 19:10:26 redcodermdromehot sounds like the hot new esolang 19:13:15 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:13:42 -!- heroux has joined. 19:14:32 <\oren\> `words --bulgarian 19:14:33 ​сметарствува 19:14:56 <\oren\> `words --esolang 19:14:58 ​~ 19:15:09 <\oren\> brief, but meaningful 19:15:12 <\oren\> `words --esolang 19:15:13 dup 19:15:19 <\oren\> `words --esolang 20 19:15:20 iag 1cnis betana tur divzeros 3d dog iintercal musicasmith lolambdamd pointwisepolynome unbabtized lic kolmogo toasm villgol jot this=tham mibblliardbal smu 19:22:23 <\oren\> `unicode ỵ 19:22:24 U+1EF5 LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH DOT BELOW \ UTF-8: e1 bb b5 UTF-16BE: 1ef5 Decimal: ỵ \ ỵ (Ỵ) \ Uppercase: U+1EF4 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 0079 0323 19:22:38 `slwd `words//s;ild;&, Zwübert von Pfüniger; 19:22:41 ​`words//The `words dictionary framework was designed by Hålgar Oslekk, Bick Noffrey, Guiston Degraîme, Myyntti Raatalla, Gölrika Rosenskild, Zwübert von Pfüniger, Waslomir Siwovich, Győrvan Sárbik, and Pastronella Gattrovezzi. 19:23:19 hm maybe to much ü 19:24:21 <\oren\> oerjan: not enough ð 19:24:35 `slwd `words//s,ün,öll, 19:24:38 ​`words//The `words dictionary framework was designed by Hålgar Oslekk, Bick Noffrey, Guiston Degraîme, Myyntti Raatalla, Gölrika Rosenskild, Zwübert von Pfölliger, Waslomir Siwovich, Győrvan Sárbik, and Pastronella Gattrovezzi. 19:24:50 <\oren\> also, not enought ß 19:27:20 my first attempt was Heiður, which is alas real. 19:28:38 <\oren\> Haðor 19:29:10 Fnörður works 19:33:19 `slwd `words//s;bik;&, Fnörður Hljofsson; 19:33:21 ​`words//The `words dictionary framework was designed by Hålgar Oslekk, Bick Noffrey, Guiston Degraîme, Myyntti Raatalla, Gölrika Rosenskild, Zwübert von Pfölliger, Waslomir Siwovich, Győrvan Sárbik, Fnörður Hljofsson, and Pastronella Gattrovezzi. 19:34:57 `slwd `words//s;offs;óffs; 19:34:58 ​`words//The `words dictionary framework was designed by Hålgar Oslekk, Bick Noffrey, Guiston Degraîme, Myyntti Raatalla, Gölrika Rosenskild, Zwübert von Pfölliger, Waslomir Siwovich, Győrvan Sárbik, Fnörður Hljofsson, and Pastronella Gattrovezzi. 19:35:50 hm what went wrong 19:36:16 oh 19:36:25 `slwd `words//s;ofss;ófss; 19:36:27 ​`words//The `words dictionary framework was designed by Hålgar Oslekk, Bick Noffrey, Guiston Degraîme, Myyntti Raatalla, Gölrika Rosenskild, Zwübert von Pfölliger, Waslomir Siwovich, Győrvan Sárbik, Fnörður Hljófsson, and Pastronella Gattrovezzi. 19:42:58 hm the pole is wrong 19:43:55 `words --polish 10 19:43:56 9 out of 10 poles agree 19:43:56 nadomycie aerozmiększaco uście rytycznymi karagnesem niepolacku niemzonącymi ostawiały stronderowa anego 19:44:42 `slwd `words//s,Siw,Strondero, 19:44:44 ​`words//The `words dictionary framework was designed by Hålgar Oslekk, Bick Noffrey, Guiston Degraîme, Myyntti Raatalla, Gölrika Rosenskild, Zwübert von Pfölliger, Waslomir Stronderoovich, Győrvan Sárbik, Fnörður Hljófsson, and Pastronella Gattrovezzi. 19:44:49 oops 19:44:59 `slwd `words//s,oo,o, 19:45:01 ​`words//The `words dictionary framework was designed by Hålgar Oslekk, Bick Noffrey, Guiston Degraîme, Myyntti Raatalla, Gölrika Rosenskild, Zwübert von Pfölliger, Waslomir Stronderovich, Győrvan Sárbik, Fnörður Hljófsson, and Pastronella Gattrovezzi. 19:45:35 oops 19:45:45 `slwd `words//s,vich,wich, 19:45:47 ​`words//The `words dictionary framework was designed by Hålgar Oslekk, Bick Noffrey, Guiston Degraîme, Myyntti Raatalla, Gölrika Rosenskild, Zwübert von Pfölliger, Waslomir Stronderowich, Győrvan Sárbik, Fnörður Hljófsson, and Pastronella Gattrovezzi. 19:45:54 forgot the thing that was wrong 19:51:30 <\oren\> Bick Noffrey sounds american 19:51:48 not british? 19:52:19 <\oren\> maybe british... Bick, though 19:52:21 it was definitely meant to be the english-sounding one, anyway. 19:52:51 yeah Bick is possibly the word i'm least satisfied with 19:54:58 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 20:12:40 \oren\: i am starting to think the problem is that american naming is so crazy you cannot make a fake british-looking name that isn't a real american one hth 20:35:38 <\oren\> kek 21:26:02 <\oren\> Is using the word "alas" against wikipedia style? <-- doesn't sound NPOV hth 21:29:53 what about "a lass" twh 21:30:25 ah, i suppose there is https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lass 21:32:12 sco. is the best wikipedia 21:33:06 Tha term is ailsae uised doon tha northeast coast o Ingland, in Northumberland an tha east o Yorkshire, but wi varied spellins an pronunciation. 21:34:17 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 22:17:07 -!- Akaibu has joined. 22:42:11 -!- boily has joined. 22:42:25 helloily 22:42:36 quinthellopia! 22:44:05 [wiki] [[Stones]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50822&oldid=50220 * Zackh * (-273) update information 22:44:18 how goes the weekend? 22:45:21 slow but steady 22:45:45 [wiki] [[Stones]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50823&oldid=50822 * Zackh * (+54) 22:46:10 is 1 second per second too slow for you? 22:46:23 too fast, really 22:46:34 but there's not much I can do about it. 22:47:41 get yourself some NZT. speed up your brain. 22:47:52 @metar katl 22:47:53 KATL 282152Z 25010KT 10SM FEW250 11/M09 A2996 RMK AO2 SLP149 T01111094 22:47:58 @metar EGLL 22:47:58 EGLL 282220Z AUTO 22010KT 9999 NCD 04/03 Q1014 22:47:59 @metar CYUL 22:47:59 CYUL 282229Z 24007KT 5SM -SN FEW010 OVC033 M00/M02 A2949 RMK SF1SC8 SF TR SLP990 22:48:09 @metar lowi 22:48:09 LOWI 282220Z AUTO 23002KT 9999 FEW250 M05/M06 Q1023 22:48:20 @metar BIRK 22:48:20 BIRK 282200Z 08004KT CAVOK M03/M08 Q1003 R01/990159 22:48:37 boily's got cow weather eh 22:48:41 ouch 22:49:02 int-e's is even worse :O 22:49:37 well at least it's dry 22:49:54 it's very cowy today. 22:50:24 has the scow lost its lisp? 22:50:25 smooth weekend, currently google hangouting to organize a mysterious tile shuffling tournament... 22:50:32 * int-e is wondering 22:51:06 how mysterious? 22:53:20 `? english 22:53:30 English is an inherently ambiguous context-sensitive language that is too powerful to fully describe itself. 22:54:13 . o O ( However, its meaning is always obvious in context. ) 22:54:41 quintopia: it involves shifty people doing silent stuff around tables, and exchanges of sticks. 22:54:53 always. 22:58:41 cow weather? 22:59:10 `? cow 22:59:13 A cow is an animal best served at minus zero degrees. 22:59:21 ... uh. 22:59:27 `cwlprits cow 22:59:33 boil̈y 23:00:02 boily: Would that be degrees Kelvin or Rankine? ;-) 23:01:41 `` ls -la wisdom/cow 23:01:43 ​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 54 Oct 28 18:38 wisdom/cow 23:09:24 hey fizzie i'm trying to run fungot on another network and my success has been... limited 23:09:24 Phantom_Hoover: pretty much. if it's not correct to refer to it 23:11:56 Phantom_Hoover: hmm, does it run at all (i.e. on freenode?) 23:12:15 lol yeah i should use that as a testcase 23:13:13 no, no it doesn't 23:13:28 (I seem to recall I had trouble with interpreter versions... in the end I used cfunge-0.3.3 23:13:31 ) 23:14:04 where'd you get it? 23:15:35 https://sourceforge.net/projects/cfunge/files/cfunge/ presumably 23:17:43 man it still feels wrong using sourceforge 23:18:05 yes, it does. tarball checksum is ced25c1688d5e46722b6e78677fa5115ed5c2d8f if that makes you feel any better 23:18:10 (sha1sum) 23:21:27 still no joy :/ 23:22:58 like i made some progress, downgrading cfunge made it spit out 'unable to connect' and then when i corrected the freenode IP/port to the ones that hexchat says i'm currently connected to that went away 23:22:59 Phantom_Hoover: okay, are you running the fungot-load-freenode.b98? if you changed the nick, did you also make sure that the < is still aligned with the v above? 23:22:59 int-e: here is an example of how it works 23:23:06 but still /whois bungot didn't work 23:23:14 int-e, yes, checked all that 23:23:32 (I'm pretty sure I tripped over that) 23:24:16 yeah i did too but i caught it early 23:24:24 oh, 192.186.157.43 doesn't work, that may be a problem ;-) 23:25:03 195.148.124.79 works for me (tm) 23:25:21 (host chat.freenode.org) 23:27:14 -!- fnordbot has joined. 23:27:20 fnordbot: hi! 23:27:20 int-e: the great day of the answer, but even so they tried it out with me?" said ford, " you reckon, what's the problem? " ford," he was saying, " magrathea is a myth, a fairy story, it's what parents tell their kids at school nicknamed him ix, which in the language. " i am majikthise! you home wreckers!" " why," he was saying, " magrathea is a myth, a fairy story, it's what parents tell their kids at school nicknamed him ix, w 23:27:27 fnordbot: ^style 23:27:27 int-e: did you think of that, earthman," he said to a small lump of green and blue." a thought. arthur lolled. a million-gallon vat of custard? a sudden silence afterwards." " a what? far out in the dordellis wars, and the megafreighters had to be equipped with the most fantastic. in a few seconds," he continued, " you just let the machines began to sink downward and to everyone else out there, the secret. a galactic civilizati 23:27:32 ^style 23:27:32 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube 23:27:32 Available: irc* 23:27:36 -!- fnordbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:28:40 int-e, what port? 23:28:42 6667? 23:28:43 (I also had trouble remembering how to join a channel: /msg fnordbot ^raw JOIN #esoteric ... make sure you're the owner) 23:28:46 yes. 23:30:37 yessss result 23:31:29 int-e, lol shit how do you get the IP then? 23:32:03 which IP? 23:32:43 I got 195.148.124.79 by selecting an IP at random from the output of `host chat.freenode.org`. 23:33:15 why is there not a standard command for dns lookups 23:33:40 there's dig 23:33:50 which is not installed for me 23:34:50 (it's typically not installed by default; it's "standard" in the same sense that bind is the standard DNS server) 23:35:43 uuuugh it connects to the other server but it uses some sort of different PING/PONG system to freenode so it just disconnects 23:38:44 I've heard rumors about such servers. Apparently they send a PING on connect and ignore all commands that come before the corresponding PONG. 23:39:15 yeah 23:39:27 well shit, i can't exactly rewrite fungot to deal with that 23:39:28 Phantom_Hoover: v and f: v v is a nilpotent homomorphism. then fn 0, and is clumsy in a repl using it, and petri couldn't give a shit 23:41:36 -!- tromp_ has joined. 23:44:03 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:44:03 Phantom_Hoover: you can always connect via an IRC bouncer (like znc ... I tried it once for lambdabot, it wasn't too hard to set up, but I'm not currently using it) 23:44:03 in fact that should make it more stable because the bouncer can take care of reconnecting to the network... something that fungot doesn't handle well (i.e., at all). 23:44:03 00:42:07 CTCP PING reply from int-e: 40.429 seconds 23:44:03 wow. 23:44:04 int-e: hows the esoteric langs going? :) i've played with ruby a little... 23:46:01 fungot: I'm still waiting for diamond 23:46:01 int-e: you could do a quicksort with two queues... 23:46:21 fungot: and incur the wrath of the quicksort-is-only-fast-with-arrays crowd. 23:46:22 int-e: have you looked for it yesterday, and i did, i think that's more a question of key invariance.) 23:56:14 int-e, znc seems very reluctant to let me make an account with no password 23:58:24 hmm, makes sense given its primary purpose. I had not considered that.