+10[>+7>+10>+3>+<4-]>+2.>+.+7.2+3.>..."
< 1482423117 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50576&oldid=50575 5* 03BeHuman 5* (+75) 10/* Conditions */
< 1482423306 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50577&oldid=50576 5* 03BeHuman 5* (+226) 10
< 1482423418 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yabd
< 1482423619 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not brainfuck if there are builtin conditionals...
< 1482423642 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and negated ones too...)
< 1482423704 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian
< 1482423794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50578&oldid=50574 5* 03BeHuman 5* (+15) 10/* C */
< 1482424000 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50579&oldid=50577 5* 03BeHuman 5* (+36) 10
< 1482424688 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1482424918 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrbgfttzcblkhuta JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482425114 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482425119 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unhandled exception at 0x668AC3A2 (ucrtbase.dll) in hexchat.exe: An invalid parameter was passed to a function that considers invalid parameters fatal.
< 1482425122 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_<
< 1482425153 0 :moonheart08!?@? NICK :merry_moonmas
< 1482426482 0 :iovoid!?@? NICK :ChristmasJS
< 1482426740 0 :MoALTz_!?@? NICK :MoALTz
< 1482427381 0 :hue!hue@zirc/eclipse QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1482428009 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482428683 0 :wlp1s1!?@? NICK :christmas1s1
< 1482428688 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good afteroon!
< 1482429172 0 :otherbot!?@? NICK :OtherSanta
< 1482429176 0 :OtherSanta!?@? NICK :othermas
< 1482429216 0 :Christmasinator!?@? NICK :ScroogeMcDuck
< 1482429269 0 :ScroogeMcDuck!?@? NICK :Christmasinator
< 1482429322 0 :hue!hue@zirc/eclipse JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482429575 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482429869 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482429925 0 :merry_moonmas!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1482430825 0 :computing!?@? NICK :merry_moonmas
< 1482431094 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482431264 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482431313 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1482431326 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482431578 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1482431604 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482431668 0 :merry_moonmas!?@? NICK :SnowyRubyist--
< 1482431743 0 :SnowyRubyist--!?@? NICK :moonmas
< 1482432389 0 :moonmas!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1482433409 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is now known as
< 1482433479 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdococ
< 1482433531 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482433562 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jdxgvedhgmboeotq JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482433861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( CERN's favicon makes it look like the tab is permanently frozen reloading )
< 1482433929 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-npmdjsdiplsgngdd QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1482433972 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-pnbwjetyylvxgobi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482434048 0 :rdococ_!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482434121 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1482435141 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may disable favicon maybe (I have all favicons disabled on my browser). Is it possible also to disable only for some sites?
< 1482435342 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1482435583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Betaload14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50580 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+4483) 10Created page with "Betaload is an [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[user:Challenger5]]. It is a derivative of [[Underload]].  Betaload adds the concept of '''environments''': An env..."
< 1482435666 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's not an actual problem, it just looks weird.
< 1482435720 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Betaload14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50581&oldid=50580 5* 03Challenger5 5* (+200) 10
< 1482435842 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482435907 0 :Herbstkind!~s1feha@ip4d16fe05.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482436879 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-pnbwjetyylvxgobi QUIT :Changing host
< 1482436879 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482436879 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Changing host
< 1482436879 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-pnbwjetyylvxgobi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482436918 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan
< 1482436928 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :Phantom_Hoover!*@*$#fix_your_connection
< 1482436935 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan
< 1482437571 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482437987 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CERN has a decelerator. fittingly, it uses antiprotons.
< 1482438002 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the TGV then?
< 1482438013 0 :rdococ_!?@? NICK :rdococ
< 1482438026 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that uses antiprotons.
< 1482438101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good afternooerjan.
< 1482438131 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :god shachaften.
< 1482438143 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo
< 1482438151 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why not?
< 1482438161 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe an Anti-TGV does instead
< 1482438168 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: thausible.
< 1482438190 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod*
< 1482438190 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks antimatter
< 1482438191 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thausible
< 1482438195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thausible action is one committed toward a thausiblee.
< 1482438195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, antimatter. Thantimatter.
< 1482438214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits thausible
< 1482438218 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän oerjän
< 1482438224 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever noticed that "cwlprits" is an awfully long string?
< 1482438235 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg thausible
< 1482438237 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8657:2016-06-29  learn A thausible action is one committed toward a thausiblee. \ 8656:2016-06-29  learn A thausible action is one commited toward a thausiblee.
< 1482438238 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cwl" is so much clearer and less verbose, don't you think?
< 1482438259 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse to believe i thought of that wisdom.
< 1482438268 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably stole it from boily or something.
< 1482438281 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, we should've gotten Gregor to fix glogbot while he was alive.
< 1482438287 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :,o0(Draisine)
< 1482438321 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg thausiblee
< 1482438324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4399:2014-02-06  echo \'A thausiblee is the recipient of a thausible action.\' >wisdom/thausiblee
< 1482438331 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha.
< 1482438341 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :took you long enough hth
< 1482438372 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 years, 4 months and 23 days.
< 1482438377 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1482438646 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482438654 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latest version of gnu parallel is called castro
< 1482438711 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the world needs some more politics
< 1482439036 0 :Lemon!b36bb301@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.107.179.1 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482439054 0 :Lemon!b36bb301@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.107.179.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone online now?
< 1482439066 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :meow
< 1482439081 0 :Lemon!b36bb301@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.107.179.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi iz
< 1482439088 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo
< 1482439141 0 :Lemon!b36bb301@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.107.179.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't coffee the greatest addiction ever?
< 1482439173 0 :Lemon!b36bb301@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.107.179.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- C.G.P. grey
< 1482439173 0 :othermas!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have been derped
< 1482439291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would prefer for this bot to just go away.
< 1482439337 0 :Lemon!b36bb301@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.107.179.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1482439417 0 :Lemon!b36bb301@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.107.179.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It echoes in here
< 1482439711 0 :Lemon!b36bb301@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.107.179.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to make esolangs but then I took an arrow to the knee
< 1482439820 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> knee
< 1482439825 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :knee += arrow
< 1482439858 0 :rdococ!~rdococ@unaffiliated/octagonfly PRIVMSG #esoteric :while (!knee.Contains(arrow)) { make.Esolang() }
< 1482439963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily please see logs for thwacking requirements
< 1482439963 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1482440741 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1482440783 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50582&oldid=50579 5* 03BeHuman 5* (+732) 10/* Example Math.cf */
< 1482440783 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1482440813 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50583&oldid=50582 5* 03BeHuman 5* (+24) 10/* Advanced Example */
< 1482440897 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-room => so https://www.xkcd.com/356/ wasn't humane enough?
< 1482440940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50584&oldid=50583 5* 03BeHuman 5* (+5) 10/* Code */
< 1482440949 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50585&oldid=50584 5* 03BeHuman 5* (+4) 10/* Output */
< 1482440976 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50586&oldid=50585 5* 03BeHuman 5* (-2) 10/* Advanced Example */
< 1482440990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50587&oldid=50586 5* 03BeHuman 5* (+2) 10/* Output */
< 1482441015 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50588&oldid=50587 5* 03BeHuman 5* (-1) 10/* CodeFuck */
< 1482441023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50589&oldid=50588 5* 03BeHuman 5* (+2) 10/* Output */
< 1482441041 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CodeFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50590&oldid=50589 5* 03BeHuman 5* (-2) 10/* CodeFuck */
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< 1482441726 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :An old computer game involving racing cars gives you four choices for your car and six choices for opponent's car; one of the choices for opponent's car is the "Physics Supercharged Lightbeam Special" which can go at the speed of light and probably is impossible to win
< 1482441942 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The computer player also uses different rules; they can drive at a constant speed without damaging their car, while your own car must accelerate and decelerate and may crash at high speeds.)
< 1482442131 0 :moonheart08!?@? NICK :under_score
< 1482442151 0 :under_score!?@? NICK :moonmas
< 1482442318 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely irrelevant to everything fact: when I was little, I thought doctors were immortal
< 1482442453 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1482442576 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because when you get sick, you might die, right? So you go to the doctor so you don't die
< 1482442596 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But doctors are ALWAYS with a doctor, namely themself, so hence never die from being sick
< 1482442609 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about car crashes
< 1482442680 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good question
< 1482442688 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I was aware of car crashes back then
< 1482442762 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(re designing M:tG cards per LKoen's question) " I might actually piece the elements together with a library like cairo then (which can generate bitmaps, SVG and also PDF)." => that wouldn't be ideal, because cairo only handles RGB or RGBA whereas M:tG card fronts are CYMK (or possible even more layers, I'm not sure)
< 1482442886 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I thought is to make the program you can have as many layers (bitmaps and greymaps) as you want. This way you can easily do CMYK and so on
< 1482442892 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sure, but (1) they could die in illnesses that restrict or remove their ability to practice as a doctor, (2) they can die to old age, which can't be cures even with the highest level of clerical spells, and (3) they can be turned to undead, and an undead can't resurrect itself even if it can cast a resurrection spell.
< 1482442922 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas, when I was 6 I did not realise this
< 1482442975 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a program where you can have different colorspaces, including CYMK? such as ImageMagick 7 (there are other such programs too)?
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< 1482443072 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah, it's not so obvious. as a child, you see how hairdressers work and can imagine why they can't cut their own hair, but you don't see how doctors do difficult operations with anesthesia, so it's not clear why they can't do some of those on themselves, nor do you see people with certain illnesses that make it impossible for them to work.
< 1482443176 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: really, ImageMagick 7 is well done (despite that bug about rendering caps on lines I mentioned a few days ago), you should use it.
< 1482443209 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a nice command-line, a low-level API, and a high-level API
< 1482443313 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, ImageMagick support many different kind of colorspaces, so the layers could be composed with it is one way
< 1482443374 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ImageMagick 7 does. ImageMagick 6 is more limited.
< 1482443385 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the bug about rendering caps on lines though?
< 1482443395 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can use ImageMagick to do the composition itself
< 1482443404 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes ImageMagick 6 is more limited, but still has CMYK
< 1482443537 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmm, maybe I didn't mention it on #esoteric, sorry
< 1482443592 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian
< 1482443599 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bug is that when I tried to use -draw "linewidth ... stroke-linecap round line ..." to draw a line, with a transparent stroke color, then a half-circle part that is the intersection of the line cap and the line body was double exposed
< 1482443612 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly transparent stroke color that is
< 1482443633 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK
< 1482443789 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I worked around this bug
< 1482443803 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even before this, I used ImageMagick a lot, and it usually worked quite well
< 1482443822 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly I used it through the command line, but I used the high level C++ api a little as well
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< 1482443839 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I am sure it does as I have used it too
< 1482443899 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also use ff-composite to compose pictures together although it does not support more than three normal channels (there is also the alpha channel; different composite modes use this channel in different ways, and in some cases it is treated as a normal channel), but it is possible to just use multiple pictures in parallel if you need a huge number of channels (although this is possible with ImageMagick too)
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< 1482444184 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the modes I put in is the mode where the pixel used is either the source or destination pixel whichever one the alpha channel has a larger value. This can implement something like Z-buffering.
< 1482444264 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as for compositing, what I'd like from a compositing program is where you don't give just one compositing mode, but a struct of two of them: the first is usually a duff-porter operator, which tells how to handle transparency, Over by default, the second is a mathematical compositing mode, which tells how to mix the color values for opaque pi
< 1482444264 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xels, Dest by default.
< 1482444334 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so eg you could choose any of (Over, Multiply), (Over, Screen), (In, Multiply), (In, Screen)
< 1482444494 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I did something like that; I don't know if it is exactly what you mean or not though; bit7-bit9 of the composite mode number sets the values called X Y Z in this document http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-SVGCompositing-20090430/
< 1482444520 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what I mean exactly either, because I didn't tell the exact semantics
< 1482444528 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that similar to what you intended?
< 1482444555 0 :moonmas!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot about my 4r7a8i3n12b2o6w autoreplace
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< 1482444623 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wait, let me look
< 1482444705 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This only applies to composite mode numbers 64 and higher; lower numbered modes treat the alpha channel differently.
< 1482444828 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, that description of how the composition formulas are built from (X,Y,Z,f) is what I mean, though svg doesn't actually seem to provide the combination modes.
< 1482444862 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SVG doesn't provide, but my own program does.
< 1482444962 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm looking at the source code of http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/farbfeld.ui/artifact/17f30248cb205ac5 now (there's no docs, right?)
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< 1482445011 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is correct there are currently no documentation.
< 1482445032 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you want, you can contribute some, whether examples, wiki documentation, man pages, etc)
< 1482445096 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the "default" case; that is the case that does these things I described. The other cases don't do that since they do something other than using transparency normally
< 1482445172 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lack of documentation is one of the disadvantages of these programs, although in time hopefully that and other things can be improved and fixed.
< 1482445227 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a mode that copies the luminosity value of Dst to the alpha channel of the Src, but keeps the color value of Src? That would be useful sometimes, because in most compositions and other transformations, the color of the input can't affect the alpha of the output.
< 1482445272 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's some not too complicated way to do that with ImageMagick though
< 1482445284 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, but I hope I can add that!
< 1482445317 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps another method that multiplies the alpha of Src with the luminosity of Dst to get the alpha of the result
< 1482445325 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might make more sense
< 1482445351 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more sense than overwriting it
< 1482445377 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, probably it does.
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