< 1481760261 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1481760441 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell is Six sigma, it sounds like a very nasty pyramid scheme < 1481760564 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why am I getting spam about it and how did they get my work email < 1481760799 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1481760915 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your work email? < 1481760929 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481760935 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I think I guessed it. < 1481761121 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1481761514 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1481761515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1481761626 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1481761876 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :спам по-русски < 1481761998 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should that be русский спам < 1481762033 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1481762045 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, `5 w should print 5 random welcomes. < 1481762055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ER < 1481762059 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:uaneb//Uaneb is the inventor of many fine things, such as Zork and e-modules. \ piet//6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colourful 2programming 13language. \ אrjan//אrjan is oerjan's first uncountable twin. He's inconsistent with the ZFC axioms. \ usa//USA apparently doesn't stand for United State Automaton. \ redundancy//Since redundancy < 1481762080 0 :staffehn!~quassel@2001:41d0:52:d00::1d3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1481762083 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you could make it take an extra argument < 1481762099 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1481762102 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2: exists, it's redundant for Taneb to invent it. < 1481762132 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowt uaneb < 1481762149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9153:2016-10-05 learn Uaneb is the inventor of many fine things, such as Zork and e-modules. < 1481762158 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd piet//s/$// < 1481762166 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :piet//6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colourful 2programming 13language. < 1481762176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1481762178 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good one < 1481762197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd piet//s/..$/./ < 1481762200 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :piet//6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colourful 2programming 13language. < 1481762223 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that better with a colored period < 1481762235 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :language. < 1481762281 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? york < 1481762285 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :York used to be known as Amsterdam. < 1481762294 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zork < 1481762295 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zork is like York, except for the first letter. Uaneb invented it. < 1481762315 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wisdom piet; wisdom אrjan < 1481762317 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :piet//6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colourful 2programming 13language. \ אrjan//אrjan is oerjan's first uncountable twin. He's inconsistent with the ZFC axioms. < 1481762335 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1481762383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that got messed up by the rtl stuff < 1481762414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but there's no way to fix that without changing the key, is there < 1481762429 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom אrjan < 1481762430 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​אrjan//אrjan is oerjan's first uncountable twin. He's inconsistent with the ZFC axioms. < 1481762466 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only happens when irssi wraps the א onto the beginning of the line, it seems :P < 1481762501 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense. < 1481762526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode ℵ < 1481762529 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2135 ALEF SYMBOL] < 1481762530 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode א < 1481762532 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+05D0 HEBREW LETTER ALEF] < 1481762543 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want, you can use ALEF SYMBOL instead of HEBREW LETTTER ALEF. < 1481762554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't force rtl. < 1481762620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which q < 1481762622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/q < 1481762634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, that may be better < 1481762648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uniencode ALEF SYMBOL < 1481762649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: uniencode: not found < 1481762657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALEF SYMBOL < 1481762659 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ℵ < 1481762671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...my terminal doesn't show that :( < 1481762677 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1481762678 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine does. < 1481762691 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALEF < 1481762699 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+05D0 HEBREW LETTER ALEF \ UTF-8: d7 90 UTF-16BE: 05d0 Decimal: א \ א \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: R (Right-to-Left) \ \ U+0616 ARABIC SMALL HIGH LIGATURE ALEF WITH LAM WITH YEH \ UTF-8: d8 96 UTF-16BE: 0616 Decimal: ؖ \ ؖ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ Combining: 230 (Above) \ \ < 1481762744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, it's just a small random occurrence. < 1481762747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/5 < 1481762749 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmd=quote; [ "$1" == w ] && cmd=wisdom; for i in {1..5}; do "$cmd"; done | sport < 1481762784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type w < 1481762786 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: type: not found < 1481762792 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which w < 1481762794 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/w < 1481762802 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what's that. < 1481762803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1481762804 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 00:45:57 up 0 min, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 \ USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT < 1481762807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right. < 1481762824 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, how often do we need that... < 1481762841 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s wisdom bin/w < 1481762846 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481763043 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :``whoami < 1481763045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `whoami: not found < 1481763051 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1481763052 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1481763105 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``sled bin/5//s/[^;]*/cmd="${1-quote}"/ < 1481763106 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `sled: not found < 1481763112 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/5//s/[^;]*/cmd="${1-quote}"/ < 1481763116 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/5//cmd="${1-quote}"; [ "$1" == w ] && cmd=wisdom; for i in {1..5}; do "$cmd"; done | sport < 1481763122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1481763125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1481763126 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :sled? < 1481763163 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/5//s/.*dom/cmd="${1-quote}"/ < 1481763179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1481763199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID SOMEONE DO SOMETHING TO HACKEGO < 1481763203 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1481763204 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1481763228 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at xa0 suspiciously < 1481763245 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my font has both alephs and they are distinguihable < 1481763264 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasnme. < 1481763264 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1481763266 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/5//cmd="${1-quote}"; for i in {1..5}; do "$cmd"; done | sport < 1481763267 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1481763279 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1481763300 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always says that canary thing < 1481763348 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls canary < 1481763352 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary < 1481763364 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1481763367 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: empty < 1481763369 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, did things get done in the wrong order... < 1481763370 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1481763372 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before < 1481763386 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/5//cmd="${1-quote}"; for i in {1..5}; do "$cmd"; done | sport < 1481763393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1481763395 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1481763406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/5 < 1481763407 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmd="${1-quote}"; for i in {1..5}; do "$cmd"; done | sport < 1481763493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1481763495 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$1" | rnooodl < 1481763524 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/5//s/do/do eval --/ < 1481763527 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/5//cmd="${1-quote}"; for i in {1..5}; do eval -- "$cmd"; done | sport < 1481763532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1481763540 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:mockingbird//mockingbird is watching you.. closely! Is it mocking you? Probably. \ burlesque//Burlesque is only the sexiest language on Earth. (See: http://mroman.ch/burlesque) \ galaxy//A galaxy is a star that feeds its litter with milk. \ alpha//Alpha is the numeric measurement of opaqueness, a dog with unusually high voice in the D < 1481763548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w welcome < 1481763554 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/5:welcome.de//Willkommen beim internationalen Zentrum für das Design und die Implementierung esoterischer Programmiersprachen! Für weitere Informationen besuchen Sie das Wiki: . (Für andere Arten der Esoterik gibt es #esoteric auf EFnet oder DALnet.) \ welcome.eo//Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno < 1481763593 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx//bin/w//wisdom "$@" < 1481763595 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/mkx//bin/w//wisdom: No such file or directory < 1481763600 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/w//wisdom "$@" < 1481763606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/w < 1481763615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wonder i ever manage to type anything correctly < 1481763621 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1481763695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like the repo browser is also slow < 1481763721 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes < 1481763733 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1481763784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1481763820 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes < 1481763843 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie HackEgo keeps locking up and seems to be having some trouble with forking... < 1481763843 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1481763871 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum. < 1481763876 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to go to sleep. < 1481763915 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an unimaginable number of "[python] "s in there. < 1481763928 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if that's relevant. < 1481763953 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I remember something about a missing wait. < 1481763988 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : ├─hackbot.freenod───socat───multibot───763*[python] < 1481764009 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1481764011 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1481764019 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now there's one more. < 1481764075 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't expect that to be enough to cause problems though. < 1481764130 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the repo browser was also pretty slow < 1481764138 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also again a bunch of "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 38s!"s, which I hadn't seen in a bit. < 1481764151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1481764176 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :763 is unimaginable? < 1481764186 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes < 1481764193 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1481764209 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Look, it seemed like a lot in a 'ps'. < 1481764231 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481764239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must have timed out < 1481764253 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it may be just pooch slow < 1481764260 0 :LKoen_!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys know about a (somewhat old) game about making magic spells by adding a syllable every turn? < 1481764280 0 :LKoen_!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read about that a few years ago on some nomic-related site < 1481764294 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( you know shachaf's pooches are getting to you when you substitute dog yourself just to keep him from doing it ) < 1481764356 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Didn't they teach you at your job to be slightly mocking of numbers that seem large to others? < 1481764376 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah, I just didn't check the actual number before I said anything. < 1481764390 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's not like HackEgo's running on our infrastructure. < 1481764478 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The multibot process does have a less-than-overall-system rlimit of 7971 processes from somewhere. < 1481764496 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just stop and restart it. < 1481764522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You could always move it to Google Cloud. < 1481764542 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thought about that once or thrice. But it's not really my bot. < 1481764683 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<\oren\> it always says that canary thing <-- fizzie has sent a pull request to Gregor, but it hasn't been merged < 1481764725 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I had a plan of just pulling the commits I made into the running copy from my bitbucket repository, in the hopes that it wouldn't mess things up too badly if Gregor were ever to merge them. < 1481764735 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may attempt that at some point. < 1481764778 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the meanwhile, I think the bot's wired in such a way that I can kill the multibot process, and it will restart. < 1481764789 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1481764799 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1481764808 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1481764835 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see it running. < 1481764844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481764865 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it looked like it was attempting to start the umlbox thing. < 1481764875 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1481764891 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it's starting a huge number of those instead. < 1481764903 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :135 right now. < 1481764906 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes \ /hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes \ /hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes < 1481764911 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember seeing that before. < 1481764936 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not exactly the most debuggable of programs. < 1481764946 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/w < 1481764950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481764954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/w < 1481764955 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/w: No such file or directory < 1481764958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w < 1481764959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 01:21:52 up 0 min, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 \ USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT < 1481764963 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1481764990 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to check if it was _somehow_ adding bin/w that broke things. < 1481764994 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes \ /hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes \ /hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes \ /hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes < 1481764999 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, no. < 1481765007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1481765018 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :This thing should have an error log, I think. < 1481765024 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1481765028 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/w < 1481765030 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom "$@" < 1481765051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1481765051 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1009) ... I was thinking maybe octave's fact() function is the factorial. octave:1> fact(20) Richad Stallman's pinky finger is really a USB memory stick. I don't think that's 20!. < 1481765065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the overhead of wisdom is too big for it < 1481765075 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481765075 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/wisdom < 1481765076 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom "$@" < 1481765081 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1481765092 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1481765096 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats himself -----### < 1481765097 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, that makes some amount of sense. < 1481765100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: NEVER MIND < 1481765111 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/wisdom < 1481765118 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9971:2016-12-15 mkx bin/w//wisdom "$@" \ 9770:2016-11-24 sled bin/wisdom//s,shuf,shuf --random-source=/dev/urandom, \ 9048:2016-09-16 sled bin/wisdom//s/that/That/;s/wise/wise./ \ 9047:2016-09-16 ` sed -i -e \'s/{/if [ -n "$f" ]; then/;s/} |/else echo "that\'\\\'\'s not wise"; fi |/\' bin/wisdom \ 8655:20 < 1481765140 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 9971 < 1481765151 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file bin/wisdom < 1481765164 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/w//wisdom "$@" < 1481765167 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/w < 1481765170 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1481765201 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...damn < 1481765207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes \ /hackenv/bin/wisdom: fork: retry: No child processes < 1481765213 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -ld bin/w < 1481765214 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Dec 15 01:22 bin/w -> wisdom < 1481765220 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right-o. < 1481765227 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mkx is following symlinks. < 1481765232 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh < 1481765246 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 9971 < 1481765253 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file bin/wisdom < 1481765258 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/w < 1481765260 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481765266 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx bin/w//wisdom "$@" < 1481765268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/w < 1481765273 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1481765279 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1: //The final frontier. \ ramen//拉麵是一種類型的麵條縫製從原始樹木。 \ myndzi//myndzi used to keep us all on our feet. \ duck typing//Duck typing means typing on a terminal blindly without an echo. \ cosplay//Cosplay is the art of dressing up as people to show off to other people dressed up as people. < 1481765282 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1481765295 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crisis averted, so I'll resume going to sleep. < 1481765296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also, undo restored the symlink without saying so. < 1481765305 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night, and sorry < 1481765518 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: now `5 can be used for general commands as well < 1481765541 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/5 < 1481765542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmd="${1-quote}"; for i in {1..5}; do eval -- "$cmd"; done | sport < 1481765555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 break < 1481765558 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0: < 1481765565 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1481765588 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval is a bit scow, why not bash -c? < 1481765590 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ` < 1481765604 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought we were forking enough here < 1481765605 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or better yet, a HackEgo-style evaluator. < 1481765616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which splits on the first space. < 1481765628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/1 < 1481765629 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\` "$@" |& sport < 1481765648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it could at least be `1 compatible < 1481765676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but `1 doesn't split on first space only < 1481765733 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1481765739 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is meant to be `-compatible. < 1481765764 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/5//s/eval --/\\`/ < 1481765768 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/5//cmd="${1-quote}"; for i in {1..5}; do \` "$cmd"; done | sport < 1481765778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay i got the \s right < 1481765784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 break < 1481765786 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: break: only meaningful in a `for', `while', or `until' loop \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: break: only meaningful in a `for', `while', or `until' loop \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: break: only meaningful in a `for', `while', or `until' loop \ /hackenv/bin/`: line 4: break: only meaningful in a `for', `while', or `until' loop \ /ha < 1481765940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q < 1481765940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :const int main[]={232,1230520576,3943032963,1852793621,1763734643,1830843502,1533962593,2105228637,826804795,1220607680,2370422665,826805616,252883666,3247000837,1221734733,186936461,738215366,1221459784,2336342065,3526445057,4148693683,818053363,1207981448,3229994495,4282968949,1220607685,2370367113,1208755284,84929065,1237516105,1225048451,191509 < 1481765952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls quines < 1481765952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c \ cat \ ciol \ haskell \ perl \ python \ q \ ruby \ slashes < 1481765957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quines/c < 1481765957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#include \ int main(){char*s="#include %cint main(){char*s=%c%s%c;printf(s,10,34,s,34,10);}%c";printf(s,10,34,s,34,10);} < 1481765963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1481766002 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` q > /tmp/q.c; gcc -o /tmp/q /tmp/q.c; /tmp/q | diff /tmp/q.c - < 1481766010 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481766017 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-amtkodbsfezazuyb QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1481766051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/q < 1481766052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/q: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=0x30b0a269173e4993500f3457b95364783b36be31, not stripped < 1481766069 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/q < 1481766073 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2691:2013-04-14 mv {,bin/}q && rm q.c \ 1771:2013-01-25 mv bin/q bin/\\? \ 1768:2013-01-25 echo -e \'#!/bin/sh\\ntopic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z | sed "s/ *$//")\\n([ \\( "$topic" = "ngevd" \\) -a \\( -e wisdom/ngevd \\) ] && cat /dev/urandom && exit 0; ) || [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? \xc2\xaf\\(\xc2\xb0_o)/\ < 1481766135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag q < 1481766139 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3138:2013-06-16 mv q quines \ 3137:2013-06-16 revert \ 3136:2013-06-16 rm q \ 2784:2013-04-22 echo \'const long main[]={7957687918238111208,2334956356649383027,8880356687520293229,13906764017533270909,1419365910561212297,2626879827020416271,16736655261603120681,17579598881254060795,1623775261490201216,5242 < 1481766141 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1481766195 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 doag bin/q < 1481766200 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/4:2691:2013-04-14 mv {,bin/}q && rm q.c \ 1771:2013-01-25 mv bin/q bin/\\? \ 1768:2013-01-25 echo -e \'#!/bin/sh\\ntopic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z | sed "s/ *$//")\\n([ \\( "$topic" = "ngevd" \\) -a \\( -e wisdom/ngevd \\) ] && cat /dev/urandom && exit 0; ) || [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? \xc2\xaf\\ < 1481766202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1481766203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/4:(\xc2\xb0_o)/\xc2\xaf"; exit 1; }\\ncat "wisdom/$topic"\' > bin/q \ 1764:2013-01-25 echo -e \'#!/bin/sh\\ntopic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z | sed "s/ *$//")\\n([ "$topic" = "ngevd" -a -e wisdom/ngevd ] && cat /dev/urandom; exit 0; ) || [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? \xc2\xaf\\(\xc2\xb0_o)/\xc2\xaf"; exit 1; }\\ncat "wisd < 1481766210 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1481766218 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 doag q < 1481766220 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/4:3138:2013-06-16 mv q quines \ 3137:2013-06-16 revert \ 3136:2013-06-16 rm q \ 2784:2013-04-22 echo \'const long main[]={7957687918238111208,2334956356649383027,8880356687520293229,13906764017533270909,1419365910561212297,2626879827020416271,16736655261603120681,17579598881254060795,1623775261 < 1481766221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1481766222 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/4:490201216,5242470257800545608,1149026244854305933,14731853813082619653,194239108057989552,837530158351,};\' >q.c && gcc q.c -o q && rm q.c \ 2698:2013-04-14 rm q.c q \ 2697:2013-04-14 gcc q.c -o q && ./q \ 2691:2013-04-14 mv {,bin/}q && rm q.c \ 2687:2013-04-14 gcc q.c -o q && ./q \ 2565:2013-03 < 1481766278 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1481766278 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/4:-31 rm q \ 2564:2013-03-31 touch q; echo hi \ 1829:2013-01-25 rm q{,.1,.2} \ 1827:2013-01-25 fetch http://oerjan.nvg.org/q \ 1826:2013-01-25 mv q bin/\'?\' \ 1825:2013-01-25 cat q.2 >q \ 1822:2013-01-25 cat q.1 >q \ 1820:2013-01-25 chmod a+x q \ < 1481766421 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ytzoqipiqmxhpmwk JOIN :#esoteric < 1481766472 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1481766481 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` q > quines/q2; rm bin/q < 1481766485 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481766492 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1481766497 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1481766498 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1481766507 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1481766508 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv bin/q quines/q2 < 1481766511 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481766512 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatr you doing? :P < 1481766515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloony < 1481766529 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: moving a quine into quines/ < 1481766541 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is quines/ on the path? :P < 1481766546 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file quines/* < 1481766562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quines/*: ERROR: cannot open `quines/*' (No such file or directory) < 1481766562 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1481766562 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` file quines/* < 1481766562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quines/c: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x8344e7066b280cfa665ff9926a0dddbd5d1a7df6, not stripped \ quines/cat: empty \ quines/ciol: ASCII text \ quines/haskell: ASCII text \ quines/perl: empty \ quines/python: empty \ quines/q: E < 1481766562 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./quines/q2 < 1481766562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :const int main[]={232,1230520576,3943032963,1852793621,1763734643,1830843502,1533962593,2105228637,826804795,1220607680,2370422665,826805616,252883666,3247000837,1221734733,186936461,738215366,1221459784,2336342065,3526445057,4148693683,818053363,1207981448,3229994495,4282968949,1220607685,2370367113,1208755284,84929065,1237516105,1225048451,191509 < 1481766582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 file quines/* < 1481766583 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3:nes/q: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=0x9fe31dd00eda1cd05cc0ece7cc7d314dd7a4a4de, not stripped \ quines/q2: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildI < 1481766597 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/2 < 1481766598 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\` "$@" |& sport '' 2 < 1481766603 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/sport < 1481766604 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :distort "${1:-/dev/stdin}" | spore '' "${2-1}" < 1481766610 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/spore < 1481766610 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat "${1:-/dev/stdin}" > /hackenv/tmp/spout; spam "${2-1}" < 1481766611 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1481766622 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/distort < 1481766622 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ N=336 \ name = sys.argv[1] if len(sys.argv) > 1 else "/dev/stdin" \ with open(name, "r") as f: \ data = ' \\ '.join(f.read().splitlines()) \ for i in xrange(0, len(data), N): \ print data[i:i+N] < 1481766648 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat "moo" > /dev/stdout < 1481766649 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: moo: No such file or directory < 1481766657 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "moo" > /dev/stdout < 1481766658 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1481766714 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "-echo `` echo "moo" >/dev/stdout" > /dev/stdout < 1481766715 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-echo echo moo >/dev/stdout < 1481766722 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: `2 is a convenient command for when you want to see the rest of output of a long one < 1481766750 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1481766756 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice to know < 1481766800 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if there are more lines, use `n) < 1481766842 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, it needs to be deterministic, since it's rerun. otherwise the original is lost. < 1481766862 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could put the output in a file and then cat it in `n for the output :P < 1481766873 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*points out the obvious* < 1481766880 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: that's what it does internally < 1481766903 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tmp/spout file < 1481766913 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/spout < 1481766914 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quines/c: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0x8344e7066b280cfa665ff9926a0dddbd5d1a7df6, not stripped \ quines/cat: empty \ quines/ciol: ASCII text \ quines/haskell: ASCII text \ quines/perl: empty \ quines/python: empty \ qui \ nes/q: < 1481766920 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh neat < 1481766942 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pad print 1+! < 1481766943 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481766947 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1481766951 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot how i made that one work < 1481766956 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pad < 1481766957 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pad="$1"; shift; echo "$@" >> "tmp/pad.$pad" < 1481766987 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/pad.print < 1481766987 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp/pad.print: No such file or directory < 1481766988 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/pad.* < 1481766989 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp/pad.*: No such file or directory < 1481766994 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/pad. < 1481766995 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp/pad.: No such file or directory < 1481766997 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/pad.* < 1481766998 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481767009 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp.pad.print 1+! < 1481767011 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp.pad.print 1+!: No such file or directory < 1481767029 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pad 1 print 1+! < 1481767029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481767032 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls tmp < 1481767033 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pad.1 print 1+! \ pad.print 1+! \ spline \ spout < 1481767045 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1481767048 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a derp indeed < 1481767078 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i typoed / as . < 1481767139 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed bin/pad s/shift/shift 1/ < 1481767140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: can't find label for jump to `in/pad' < 1481767150 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed s/shift/shift 1/ bin/pad < 1481767151 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 13: unterminated `s' command < 1481767155 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/shift/shift 1/' bin/pad < 1481767163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pad="$1"; shift 1; echo "$@" >> "tmp/pad.$pad" < 1481767163 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed 's/shift/shift 1/' bin/pad > bin/pad < 1481767164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481767169 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pad 1 print 1+! < 1481767170 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/pad: Success < 1481767185 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls tmp < 1481767186 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pad.1 print 1+! \ pad.print 1+! \ spline \ spout < 1481767193 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pad 12 print 1+! < 1481767193 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/pad: Success < 1481767198 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls tmp < 1481767199 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pad.1 print 1+! \ pad.print 1+! \ spline \ spout < 1481767208 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, isnt that odd? < 1481767254 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never seen it say 'success' before < 1481767310 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pad 12 print 1+!; quit() < 1481767311 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/pad: Success < 1481767333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this channel being spammed? < 1481767337 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1481767338 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1481767348 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look away for five minutes and someone is making a big mess. < 1481767402 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you mean c2? < 1481767494 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what? < 1481767498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pad < 1481767499 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481767511 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls quines < 1481767512 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c \ cat \ ciol \ haskell \ perl \ python \ q \ q2 \ ruby \ slashes < 1481767515 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: you cannot pipe into a file you're reading from, with most commands < 1481767519 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/q < 1481767520 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....°@.....@.......Ð ..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....À.......À................. ...........@......@............................................@.......@.....¬......¬........ ............°......°`.....°`.................... ...........Ø......Ø`.....Ø`..... ....... .............. .. < 1481767521 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1481767522 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP < 1481767524 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1481767526 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quines/q < 1481767527 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :const long main[]={7957687918238111208,2334956356649383027,8880356687520293229,13906764017533270909,1419365910561212297,2626879827020416271,16736655261603120681,17579598881254060795,1623775261490201216,5242470257800545608,1149026244854305933,14731853813082619653,194239108057989552,837530158351,}; < 1481767531 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quines/q2 < 1481767531 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :const int main[]={232,1230520576,3943032963,1852793621,1763734643,1830843502,1533962593,2105228637,826804795,1220607680,2370422665,826805616,252883666,3247000837,1221734733,186936461,738215366,1221459784,2336342065,3526445057,4148693683,818053363,1207981448,3229994495,4282968949,1220607685,2370367113,1208755284,84929065,1237516105,1225048451,191509 < 1481767535 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1481767539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/pad < 1481767541 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doat quines/q < 1481767548 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9983:2016-12-15 ` sed \'s/shift/shift 1/\' bin/pad > bin/pad \ 9106:2016-09-26 mkx bin/pad//pad="$1"; shift; echo "$@" >> "tmp/pad.$pad" \ 9105:2016-09-26 mkx bin/pad//printf "$(printf $2)\\n" >> "tmp/$(echo $1)padfile" \ 9104:2016-09-26 mkx bin/pad//echo $"$(echo $2)\\n" >> "tmp/$(echo $1)padfil < 1481767550 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3138:2013-06-16 mv q quines < 1481767554 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 9983 < 1481767560 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file bin/pad < 1481767618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: shift is equivalent to shift 1, that's not your problem < 1481767646 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your problem is that when invoked as `pad, it only gets one argument < 1481767654 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1481767654 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1481767687 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'pad="$1"; shift; echo "$@" >> "tmp/pad.$pad"' > bin/pad < 1481767688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481767696 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :``pad 1 print 1+1 < 1481767696 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `pad: not found < 1481767701 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` pad 1 print 1+1 < 1481767701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481767706 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls tmp < 1481767707 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pad.1 \ pad.1 print 1+! \ pad.print 1+! \ spline \ spout < 1481767712 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, i am a derp < 1481767782 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this pad thing about? < 1481767791 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is everything cluttering up things? < 1481767833 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a mini multiline in a box. was an experiment < 1481767838 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll remove it if you want < 1481768018 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag bin/pad < 1481768021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9984:2016-12-15 undo 9983 \ 9983:2016-12-15 ` sed \'s/shift/shift 1/\' bin/pad > bin/pad \ 9106:2016-09-26 mkx bin/pad//pad="$1"; shift; echo "$@" >> "tmp/pad.$pad" \ 9105:2016-09-26 mkx bin/pad//printf "$(printf $2)\\n" >> "tmp/$(echo $1)padfile" \ 9104:2016-09-26 mkx bin/pad//echo $" < 1481768027 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quines/cat < 1481768027 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/quines/cat: Success < 1481768036 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: i had already repaired the file, that's what the undo was for < 1481768050 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1481768052 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt notice < 1481768053 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1481768090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've got a lot of weird commands. < 1481768100 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` stat -c%A quines/cat && cat quines/cat < 1481768100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x < 1481768120 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` doag quines/cat < 1481768124 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1569:2013-01-18 chmod +x quines/cat \ 1568:2013-01-18 touch quines/cat < 1481768124 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: some of those files need to be run with an interpreter < 1481768128 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/cat < 1481768129 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481768135 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? perfect quine. < 1481768148 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl quines/perl < 1481768149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481768151 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1481768181 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the zero char quine 2000 < 1481768189 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bash quines/cat < 1481768190 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481768199 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quines/cat < 1481768201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/quines/cat: Success < 1481768227 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas hackego is a little noisy, so it doesn't really work to make that +x < 1481768239 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` chmod -x quines/{cat,python,ruby,perl} < 1481768241 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481768244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even though it's a bash quine too) < 1481768246 0 :moonheart08!?@? NICK :evilmoon < 1481768257 0 :doesthiswork1!?@? NICK :doesthiswork < 1481768321 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/python < 1481768323 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/python: No such file or directory < 1481768330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/python < 1481768331 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481768336 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/ruby < 1481768337 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481768357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'No output.' > quines/cat < 1481768359 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481768362 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quines/cat < 1481768363 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/quines/cat: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/quines/cat: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1481768374 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/cat < 1481768375 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481768376 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1481768398 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat is ideal for writing quines < 1481768432 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '#!/bin/cat' >quines/cat && chmod +x quines/cat < 1481768434 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1481768438 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quines/cat < 1481768439 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/cat < 1481769928 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1481770077 0 :evilmoon!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1481770356 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ytzoqipiqmxhpmwk QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1481770370 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-oempvzsxhpypzdmz JOIN :#esoteric < 1481770504 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1481773304 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1481773372 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-oempvzsxhpypzdmz QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1481773429 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-cxgicugebiktsxvt JOIN :#esoteric < 1481775136 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1481775955 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Excess Flood < 1481775965 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1481776464 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi QUIT :Excess Flood < 1481776481 0 :bibibi!~bibibi@unaffiliated/bibibi JOIN :#esoteric < 1481776656 0 :LKoen_!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1481779684 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? english < 1481779701 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is an inherently ambiguous context-sensitive language that is too powerful to fully describe itself. < 1481779772 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Π < 1481779776 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+03A0 GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PI] < 1481779801 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode П < 1481779803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+041F CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER PE] < 1481779873 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1481780815 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to code review http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/tavern.ui/raw/tavernc-parser.c?name=6156d70564da7cdfced7aa6cc25350dac895ea1b (except the dispatch, which is incompleted)? < 1481780843 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this document (it is related to it) http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/tavern.ui/wiki?name=Parser < 1481780844 0 :benderB747!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:b53a:27ec:3207:cd05 JOIN :#esoteric < 1481780993 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have bold and italic letters in my font but I'm adding bold-italic ones < 1481781085 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far I have C𝐂𝐶𝖢ℂℭ𝕮 and 𝒞 < 1481781132 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I need to add 𝑪𝙲 and some others < 1481781477 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1481782094 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481782567 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1481783205 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that you can track how much urine is in the urine tank on the space station in real time? < 1481783463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Uh, yeah. < 1481783532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: (I didn't actually. Thanks I guess?) < 1481783539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to calculate the length of the arc of a unit circle from (1, 0) to some known (x, y) on the circle without using triggy stuff? < 1481783748 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use complex numbers < 1481783812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: not really. the length is after all arccos(x). < 1481783824 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also arcsin(y). < 1481783850 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and y = sqrt(1-x^2) < 1481783862 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :θ = log(x/i+y) < 1481783864 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the first quadrant) < 1481783886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no matter what you do, you get the trig back. < 1481783911 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Darn. < 1481783917 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if your log function supports that then you probaby already have support for trig anywya < 1481783927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :using complex numbers is just a roundabout way of using trig, or an alternate way of calculating trig. < 1481783975 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: specifically, on many platforms it's a way of doing trig without worrying about quadrants < 1481784007 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps. there's also atan2 :) < 1481784046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> atan2 0 1 < 1481784048 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1481784052 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> atan2 1 0 < 1481784055 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.5707963267948966 < 1481784116 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is exactly the function asked for, really < 1481784136 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> atan2 (-1) 0 < 1481784138 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1.5707963267948966 < 1481784150 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> atan2 0 (-1) < 1481784152 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.141592653589793 < 1481784440 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: that's you anser then < 1481784526 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3639 < 1481786140 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481786277 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 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Connection reset by peer < 1481795193 0 :The_Prospector|2!~The_Prosp@c-73-239-179-79.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481795377 0 :The_Prospector!~The_Prosp@unaffiliated/cornman QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1481798086 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1481798304 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1481798524 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1481799095 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:e9f5:4667:7c3a:7031 JOIN :#esoteric < 1481799352 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1481799463 0 :The_Prospector!~The_Prosp@unaffiliated/cornman JOIN :#esoteric < 1481799641 0 :The_Prospector|2!~The_Prosp@c-73-239-179-79.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1481800342 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1481800676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1481801713 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481802092 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1481802092 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1481802177 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ham, does quantity calculus ever use log? >:D < 1481802262 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lightly thwack hppavilion[1] for not making sense in the morning < 1481802281 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What? < 1481802789 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1481803691 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1481803989 0 :xa0!~zeta@unaffiliated/uoy JOIN :#esoteric < 1481805014 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: AURAL CHICKEN < 1481806135 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S and K Turing-completeness proof14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50517&oldid=46030 5* 03Esowiki201529A 5* (+1) 10/* Example */ < 1481806835 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1481808084 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1481809562 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1481809768 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1481810126 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzaew/.lkjhgbvnmkjgfcvbhgfcvbhjklkm cxsertwsdfvbnmkoiuytrewdvwedfvcdwddsdswdwsdc /w < 1481810136 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1481810138 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1481810439 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1481810957 0 :MoALTz_!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1481811041 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1481811066 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :811) i love how allegedly wine can run all of these different programs but the only one i can actually run is starcraft i think wine may secretly be a cleanroom reimplementation of starcraft < 1481811141 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1481811538 0 :MoALTz_!?@? NICK :MoALTz < 1481811774 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1481811781 0 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1481812885 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1481813003 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1481813142 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nythedwarf < 1481813148 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb! < 1481813149 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1481813156 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1481813307 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote starcraft < 1481813316 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :811) i love how allegedly wine can run all of these different programs but the only one i can actually run is starcraft i think wine may secretly be a cleanroom reimplementation of starcraft < 1481813406 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1481813481 0 :benderB747!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:d048:77fd:9abb:d70e JOIN :#esoteric < 1481813948 0 :benderB747!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:3e1:d048:77fd:9abb:d70e QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1481813957 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's damn hard to predict which programs will run with wine and which ones won't. < 1481813986 0 :benderB747!~bender@58.146.140.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1481814146 0 :super_bender!~bender@58.146.140.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1481814253 0 :benderB747!~bender@58.146.140.143 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1481814616 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, agreed < 1481814749 0 :wlp1s1!jeffl@unaffiliated/iczero QUIT :Changing host < 1481814749 0 :wlp1s1!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1481814815 0 :wlp1s1!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Changing host < 1481814815 0 :wlp1s1!jeffl@unaffiliated/iczero JOIN :#esoteric < 1481815207 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1481815475 0 :benderB747!~bender@58.146.140.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1481815537 0 :super_bender!~bender@58.146.140.143 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1481817381 0 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481817758 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's second mezzacotta character has awesome blog readers, i see < 1481819046 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is the first time we've found dinosaur material preserved in amber," co-author Ryan McKellar, of the Royal Saskatchewan Museum in Canada, told the BBC News website. < 1481819107 0 :benderB747!~bender@58.146.140.143 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1481819122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a bit late to this < 1481819645 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:e9f5:4667:7c3a:7031 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1481821296 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481821509 0 :fractal!fractal@unaffiliated/scounder QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1481821706 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1481822043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disappointed the bbc article had no jurassic park reference < 1481822677 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdo < 1481822684 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wisdo: not found < 1481822685 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1481822690 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wegian//A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). There's also the hypothetical Gal, which hasn't been observed yet so we're not sure where it's from. < 1481822739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm didn't we have someone irish here at some point < 1481822757 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1481822779 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you irish? < 1481822779 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: as well, could you create a nifty new package in which to load source in the world on occasion. that being said, r5rs is rather slim, so implementations can ( and do) very widely on how they use the fnord < 1481822784 0 :fractal!fractal@unaffiliated/scounder JOIN :#esoteric < 1481822967 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm approximately 10% irish < 1481823019 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1481823041 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently that's enough to put some red in my hair < 1481823052 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :genetics is weird < 1481823122 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the thing where traits can skip generations < 1481823373 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes, genetics is strange. I just read that a Half-Green-Dragon Green Dragon has weaker attacks but stronger attacks than an ordinary Green Dragon of the same age category, because that's what he inherits from his Green Dragon ancestor. < 1481823391 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/weaker attacks but stronger attacks/weaker attacks but stronger defense/ < 1481823638 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1481823665 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking that the concept made sense and then I reread it < 1481823705 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: slim and trim, you said? < 1481823705 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: if n 0) or ( ( a b) ( a < 1481823717 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :half dragons are supposed to be the offspring of polymorhed dragons right < 1481823720 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I have to admit that's rather elegant < 1481823720 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not in reference to her attempts at getting a marine biology degree: halusin ostaa tai saada fnord cd- fnord tää on tosi fnord. < 1481823787 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I think you lost me at "marine" < 1481823787 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what does it do with the association fnord associate french with fnord cuisine and fnord arts is very good < 1481823871 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a half green dragon green dragon is the ofspring of a green dragon that polymorphed emself into a... green dragon and then mated with another green dragon? < 1481823922 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp drosophila < 1481823945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary file reflection matches < 1481824086 0 :alakra!~alakra@2604:a880:0:1010::f5:f001 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.4 < 1481824549 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear that biologists are drosophiles < 1481824675 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I don't see why the parent has to be polymorphed. < 1481824692 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :half-dragons are descendants of dragons, but I don't think polymorph has to be involved < 1481825022 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1481825084 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there has to be some sort of starngeness otheriwse all green dragons would be half green dragosn < 1481825240 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the canadian goverment will ban asbestos < 1481825546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1481827264 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481827730 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1481827784 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1481827794 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1481828423 0 :otherbot_!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1481828570 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1481828572 0 :otherbot_!?@? NICK :otherbot < 1481828688 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-zvkyrwhidsqvekpg QUIT :Excess Flood < 1481828797 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-zmsicykjommsmkvn JOIN :#esoteric < 1481828941 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481829296 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1481829394 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1481829424 0 :moonythedwarf!~moonythed@50.66.198.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1481829448 0 :moonythedwarf!?@? NICK :Guest22209 < 1481830145 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1481830185 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481830213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1481830257 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1481830457 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1481830644 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1481831029 0 :Guest22209!~moonythed@50.66.198.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1481831256 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481831725 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \f -> f True || f False < 1481831729 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 2 tests): < 1481831729 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Bool> < 1481832228 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to directly look at the logic in quantum computing with a variation on more classical predicate logic?? < 1481832549 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1481833333 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:85c6:86aa:e925:155f JOIN :#esoteric < 1481833427 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1481833541 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1481833658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum computing relies on vectors. The field these vectors are over is, of course, the fields from Quantum Field Theory :P < 1481833689 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:85c6:86aa:e925:155f QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1481834410 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1481834437 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1481835205 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1481835746 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1481836555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I don't remember whether we talked about this, but Leibniz's infinitesimals aren't nilpotent, are they? < 1481836638 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know what "Leibniz's infinitesimals" refers to in a precise enough way to say :) < 1481836669 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither do I. < 1481836692 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But dx^2 is in general not 0, right? < 1481837019 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1481837041 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the thing I was discussing a while back with you, it wouldn't generally be 0, simply because dx was meant to be a real variable, and the only case where its square would be 0 would be the unusual case that it was as well. < 1481837070 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, in the case of exterior algebra, dx /\ dx will be 0, because /\ is antisymmetric < 1481837188 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I still don't understand Leibniz notation. < 1481837201 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's the version where you parameterize everything in terms of another variable. < 1481837253 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it can even be one of the d's < 1481837258 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1481837266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1481837283 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can? < 1481837294 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that "another variable" you mentioned < 1481837320 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, it works out just fine to say we're going to write dy = f'(x) dx and consider dy to be a function of x and dx < 1481837380 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that works fine? I'm not sure. < 1481837391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does d(dy/dx)/dx work out to in that case? < 1481837393 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, depends on what you want to do < 1481837442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the right answer is d(dy/dx)/dx = d^2y/dx^2 + dy/dx d^2x/dx^2 < 1481837445 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, sort of -- though the implicit parameter usage is insane < 1481837466 0 :The_Prospector!~The_Prosp@unaffiliated/cornman QUIT :Quit: when in doubt, kernel panic < 1481837519 0 :The_Prospector!~The_Prosp@unaffiliated/cornman JOIN :#esoteric < 1481837595 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We only think that because we don't understand it. < 1481837706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I understand the version you were talking about, actually. < 1481837712 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what's wrong with the implicit parameter? < 1481837789 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well, it's sort of okay to take the dx to be the same there, but you're really dealing with a new thing, so you're sort of throwing away a free choice that you would have otherwise had < 1481837810 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that statement I just made is clear enough to mean anything to you :) < 1481837874 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that it is. < 1481837880 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, okay, dy/dx is being regarded there as a new function, of just x, since presumably you're not hiding the fact that the outer /dx was really a /\partial x < 1481837884 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it related to how the second derivative is a bilinear function? < 1481837891 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1481837941 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, dy/dx is a new thing in terms of x. < 1481837951 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If y=x^3, then dy/dx = 3x^2 < 1481837973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I see what you mean. < 1481837996 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan has made the same objection before, but I think it turned out to be irrelevant in his case or something? < 1481838016 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's fairly irrelevant because everything is 1-dimensional here < 1481838046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1481838055 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The vector space of linear maps R -> R is canonically isomorphic to R itself, and the space of bilinear maps R x R -> R is again < 1481838064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1481838093 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So can we make this notation work in a multidimensional case? < 1481838097 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean total derivatives, not partial derivatives. < 1481838151 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1481838165 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The definition you probably want is the one due to Fréchet. < 1481838211 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, the Wikipedia presentation goes a bit farther than just multiple dimensions, and generalises to Banach spaces < 1481838259 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1481838264 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9chet_derivative < 1481838265 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Fréchet derivative - Wikipedia] < 1481838306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hasn't this bot been requested not to do that in the past? < 1481838308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1481838395 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is that if we have some function f: U -> V between some Banach spaces, then the derivative of f at some point x is supposed to be the best possible linear approximation to the manner in which f varies near the point x < 1481838408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't this just the standard definition of a derivative in the multidimensional case? < 1481838414 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1481838445 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there are a bunch of other things you can do in order to talk about e.g. directional derivatives and such. < 1481838464 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway... < 1481838510 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means that the derivative of f as a whole is going to be a map from U to the space L(U,V) of linear maps from U to V < 1481838521 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481838571 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so we can iterate this, the second derivative is going to be a map U -> L(U,L(U,V)) < 1481838604 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say we have the 2-sphere x^2+y^2+z^2=1. We can talk about its derivative, which is a tangent plane at each point. < 1481838611 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's not called a derivative but something else. I'm not sure. < 1481838633 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a sufficiently multidimensional case for this? < 1481838677 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps we should just discuss a function such as f(x,y,z) = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - 1 < 1481838734 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, its derivative at some point (x,y,z) in R is going to be some linear functional R^3 -> R < 1481838748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can do that, and then talk about the function's zero set and its derivative's zero set. < 1481838760 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in order to express what that linear functional is, we'll introduce some new variables, dx, dy and dz < 1481838817 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :With (x,y,z) fixed, it's the linear functional (dx,dy,dz) |--> 2x dx + 2y dy + 2z dz, right? < 1481838832 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1481838899 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that, I think, is the easiest way to make some kind of sense of the Leibniz notation -- we're implicitly discussing these functions which are the linear functionals (or whatever) which our total derivative gives us. < 1481838931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With fancy implicit notation, we can "d" both sides and write 2x dx + 2y dy + 2z dz = 0, and therefore dy/dx = -x/y - z/y dz/dz < 1481838948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, dy/dx = -x/y - z/y dz/dx < 1481838960 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do funny things like iterating it, then all of a sudden, you might introduce "dx" multiple times, when really you should perhaps have picked some new variable name < 1481838978 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in the 1D case, it *really* doesn't matter < 1481839069 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you mean by "function of x and dx", at least. < 1481839072 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(particularly when you're dividing through by dx) < 1481839074 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1481839100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the statement "dy/dx = -x/y - z/y dz/dx" is accurate, isn't it? < 1481839117 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the other five that you can write. < 1481839313 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1481839346 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming that 2x dx + 2y dy + 2z dz = 0, that's a valid conclusion to draw < 1481839408 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what are dx, dy, dz? < 1481839422 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the second derivative of the 2-sphere? < 1481839425 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1481839429 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god < 1481839431 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, wait < 1481839436 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: Is otherbot your bot? < 1481839444 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a few months of being lost, i got SFML + visual studios to work < 1481839451 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, its a bot i HELP with, wlp1s1 owns it < 1481839460 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can modify things if i need to < 1481839464 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you need? ^_^ < 1481839473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't people requested before that it stop showing URL titles? < 1481839478 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's a channel requirement. < 1481839480 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it still doing it? < 1481839485 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i killed that... < 1481839487 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally I would prefer that it not be in here at all. < 1481839490 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(due to incompat) < 1481839492 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if it is, it shouldn't spam. < 1481839499 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.google.com < 1481839500 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Google] < 1481839500 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1481839503 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1481839506 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who reenabled it >_< < 1481839514 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also do your testing somewhere else please. < 1481839516 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only HackEgo is allowed to spam ;) < 1481839518 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1481839521 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale, lol < 1481839532 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, killing it again :P someone must've reenabeld it < 1481839534 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's spam is on-topic. < 1481839567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, to be an acceptable fix, you need to provide evidence that it won't accidentally get turned on again in the future. < 1481839568 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1481839570 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its off.... < 1481839574 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :its commented out < 1481839579 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is it workign then? < 1481839589 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wlp1s1, iovoid, Bowserinator what did you do >_< < 1481839598 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1481839599 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the code you are editing is not the code which is running? < 1481839616 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonheart08: ? < 1481839623 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems not < 1481839626 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1481839632 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could take the bot spam to #esoteric-blah. < 1481839635 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, yelling at wlp1s1 for moving it again < 1481839642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I didn't want a full page of spam in here. < 1481839655 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-part for now < 1481839659 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-part #esoteric bye < 1481839660 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PART #esoteric :"bye" < 1481839720 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. < 1481839791 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i am going to kill wlp1s1 >_> < 1481839882 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, im sorry about the issue, its wlp1s1 fault this time actually :P < 1481839908 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fault is irrelevant. < 1481839950 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true enough < 1481839975 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowser@unaffiliated/bowserinator PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1481840035 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a jeffool happened :P < 1481840467 0 :moonheart08!?@? NICK :m`o-o`nheart08 < 1481840486 0 :m`o-o`nheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PART #esoteric :"I'm being a nuisance, am I not? Oh well. Bye. DERP" < 1481841501 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1481841975 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :|ℕ| is sometimes called ω; is there a nice name for |ℝ| and for |2^ℝ|? < 1481842014 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow. What is |? < 1481842051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: |S| is Cardinality of S. < 1481842056 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, thought that was the standard notation < 1481842063 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ω is an ordinal. < 1481842084 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh? < 1481842104 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cardinality of the naturals is usually called aleph zero. < 1481842314 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PART #esoteric : < 1481842917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@74-114-87-91.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1481843038 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] ℶ₁ hth < 1481843038 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1481843087 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1481843130 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I've waited, but I still don'tknow the second derivative of the 2-sphere. < 1481843137 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] And ℶ₂ for your second question. (With ℶ₀ = ℵ₀.) < 1481843137 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1481843138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should think instead. < 1481843143 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :shichaf. < 1481843157 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1481843160 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1481843184 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg < 1481843185 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions. < 1481843187 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did you see that photorealistic image synthesis thing? < 1481843189 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. impressive < 1481843199 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not, if it's some new thing. < 1481843206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://arxiv.org/abs/1612.03242 < 1481843265 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but why is the #1 'News'-corpora result for that a Daily Mail article. :( < 1481843366 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the Daily Mail article is even about an earlier paper from partially the same folks, about faces. < 1481843386 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not even same folks. I just can't read. < 1481843412 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, sorry, I got dragged away by work < 1481843442 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :V. fancy. < 1481843591 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So, you want the derivative of that function R -> L(R, R^3)? < 1481843598 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, sorry < 1481843601 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's backward :) < 1481843609 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :R^3 -> L(R^3, R) < 1481843772 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: I guess, though I'm not sure I have a definition for that. < 1481843801 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :L(U,V) being the space of linear maps U -> V < 1481843827 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, but what's a derivative of a function with that codomain? < 1481843910 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481844083 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Raddish0 5* 10New user account < 1481844083 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the Fréchet derivative applies, though for computational purposes perhaps using the definition directly is a bit annoying < 1481844129 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It turns out that you can express the bilinear map which is the second derivative using what's called the Hessian matrix -- it's just the matrix of all possible second partial derivatives < 1481844129 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see, it applies in this case. < 1481844152 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing it's taking the limit of is in the domain, not the codomain. So it still makes sense. < 1481844160 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1481844165 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Hessian matrix has the wrong variance when treated as a matrix. < 1481844172 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1481844175 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we talked about that before. < 1481844191 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just, more convenient to write it in a square shape than have a really long line < 1481844193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway this doesn't work in the more general R^n->R^m case. < 1481844204 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, none of this notation really does < 1481844212 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I was wondering about. < 1481844220 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the Fréchet derivative works < 1481844251 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, and you can always split things up into components < 1481844275 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a function R^m -> R^n it's like having n functions R^m -> R < 1481844308 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can just differentiate those component functions individually < 1481844840 0 :MoALTz!~no@77-254-9-16.adsl.inetia.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1481845379 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481845534 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1481845534 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 152342Z 31017G30KT 15SM IC DRSN FEW025 SCT040 M18/M26 A2996 RMK CF1SC3 CF TR PRESRR SLP150 < 1481845792 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1481845844 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting for nvidia update < 1481845883 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Countor used the cardinal 𝔠 for the cardinal of the Reals apparently < 1481845909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1481845952 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He sure knew how to count. < 1481845963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah ah ah ah ah! < 1481846005 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the cardinal of the naturals is called ℵ₀ < 1481846018 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: ...oh? < 1481846027 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-proud < 1481846027 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1481846033 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-shout < 1481846033 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1481846037 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lud < 1481846037 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 49m 58s ago: ℶ₁ hth < 1481846037 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 48m 19s ago: And ℶ₂ for your second question. (With ℶ₀ = ℵ₀.) < 1481846038 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; < 1481846040 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cardinal of the reals is called ℶ₁ or 𝔠 < 1481846047 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he\\oren, hppavellon, lambdabellot. < 1481846076 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thwacks shachaf one time. ah ah ah. thwack two times. ah ah ahachaf. < 1481846207 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what ℷ means in math < 1481846289 0 :hppavilion[1]!~dosgmowdo@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's said that primitive cultures don't have different words for infinities; they just go 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., then everything bigger is "∞" < 1481846349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: function hth < 1481846370 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gimel calculus. ℷx.ℷy.y x