< 1480724042 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you ever send massages? < 1480724042 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: damn you structural ambiguity!", i think < 1480724051 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, a massage is structurally sound hth < 1480724051 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you're just a zealot incapable of having an in-numbers? ( lambda ( x) < 1480724069 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480724070 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: By His Noodly Appendage, I ain't no zealot, you heretic! < 1480724070 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and there's no automatic fnord, i was gonna submit a srfi too, but it's < 1480724106 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: srfi: Subversive Radiophonic Fnord Integration? < 1480724423 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There might be use for some unofficial node types in FreeUHS, with names having "x-" at front. One thing I thought is a thing similar to the "incentive" type but dynamic; which nodes are hidden/locked can be controlled by the game. < 1480724494 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it make any sense to you? Do you have other idea? < 1480724906 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1480725272 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:a899:3eea:6018:c222 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1480725477 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1480725511 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reading https://theintercept.com/2016/12/01/expanded-federal-hacking-authority-goes-into-effect-despite-last-minute-efforts-in-senate/ < 1480725634 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would require the hint system to be linked with the game though. Another way for a hint system which is not linked with the game can be for the game to provide a "hint reference code", which is entered into the hint viewer in order to access a hidden hint menu. Hint reference codes can be provided even if there is no UHS file for this game; the UHS can be provided later, and these hint reference codes can possibly even be used with stuff that < 1480725710 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... anyone up for co authoring an Binding International Arbitration Contract Notice, telling both the USA FBI and USA DOJ that any 'equipment interference' or access gained by means not authorized by the sending party to sending party's equipment, accounts or such is equivlent to them accepting the IAC. < 1480725741 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not live in United States and have no authority to do such a thing < 1480725762 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I said co authoring not issuing < 1480725785 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. Even then, I do not know how. < 1480725826 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically constructing an EULA-esque mousetrap for them. < 1480725895 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, do that if you know how, but I don't know how. < 1480725994 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of https://xkcd.com/538/. as in, it's about as naive as the first panel. < 1480726034 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except trying to hack law instead, which probably works even worse. < 1480726177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07EsoInterpreters14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50439&oldid=50340 5* 030x0dea 5* (+1785) 10Added Whitespace interpreter in LOLCODE < 1480726185 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so you are suggesting at the end of it, it should state: This IACN is as legal as your so called 'Rule 41'. < 1480726221 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i was assuming you were suggesting this with some kind of illusion that would in any sense "work". < 1480726225 0 :Ox0dea!~dea@unaffiliated/ox0dea PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sorry for only just getting around to that. < 1480726267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ox0dea: no problem, i was going to do that refactoring eventually anyway. < 1480726273 0 :Ox0dea!~dea@unaffiliated/ox0dea PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1480726278 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it """works""" in the same sense that EULAs """work""" < 1480726297 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they dont. Not at all) < 1480726304 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a rule 41? < 1480726359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nuff < 1480726366 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuff? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1480726390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Nuff is a substance extracted from fairies. Somehow no one really minds this. < 1480726392 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'nuff': Nuff is a substance extracted from fairies. Somehow no one really minds this. < 1480726442 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or should I rather send them an warning that any such malware they produce will be analysed and any CoC servers it contacts DDOSed of the net? (Like it is done with CoC of botnets in places where the 'authorities' are too corrupt to care) < 1480726486 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( snuff is to nuff what scow is to cow... ) < 1480726527 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i'm just saying there is no point in posing like this. < 1480726560 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just go straight to the malware analysis and DDOSing then? < 1480726566 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fairy snuff would indeed be pretty scow. < 1480726620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zarutian: i think that's still posing when the target is a powerful government. except more likely to be harmful to yourself. < 1480726700 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write such note anonymously and sent to newspaper to publish. < 1480726792 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the 'agents' arent 'powerful government'. Their actions are their own. And actions do have consequences for whoever performs them. < 1480726854 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many weeks since the last oots? < 1480726857 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: one of which is rescindment of credibility of their signitures. < 1480726974 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok then < 1480728224 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1480729259 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoserious problem I'm having: is the bookworm character used by INTERCAL best represented in Unicode as ∀ (for all) or Ɐ (which actually is an upside-down A, as opposed to merely looking like one)? < 1480729307 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean again < 1480729331 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor < 1480729337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it it's V overstriked with - < 1480729344 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1480729379 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :his523. I believe forall is better. < 1480729461 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, thanks < 1480729480 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode XOR < 1480729480 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⊻ < 1480729483 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise there were two identical-looking (in all the fonts I've seen them in) bookworms in Unicode until I tried to shapecatcher it < 1480729538 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's not a XOR, that's a wormbook hth. < 1480729555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1480729597 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it's not too good that the worm is missing < 1480729606 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(missing the book, that is) < 1480730539 0 :haavard!root@haavard.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1480730571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you see my O(log n) improvements. admittedly they're probably still not very optimal for constant factors... < 1480730612 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1480730625 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm missing context, so I'm guessing no < 1480730634 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the Incident talk page < 1480730658 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, no < 1480730666 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad it's possible though < 1480730718 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, base fibonacci < 1480730733 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seemed the easiest way to keep it 01 based < 1480730756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's easy enough to adapt to other bases, as mentioned later < 1480730771 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that filler is amazing < 1480730793 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i simplified it a bit later by using overlap rejection < 1480730922 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the problem of "good Incident filler" will be fixed until we find filler that doesn't need to embed the tokens themselves though < 1480730935 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that has a reasonable length < 1480730942 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1480730959 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my simulated annealing filler program can normally fill length-2 tokens using just three filler characters distinct from those in the tokens, within a minute or so of runtime < 1480731030 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that using length-3 tokens would make filling harder, and possibly require a larger alphabet of filler characters < 1480731044 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when your tokens get long enough, perhaps the filler needs to be multiple characters too < 1480731323 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe you can see this as a graph problem, with an edge from each token to the other tokens that may follow it < 1480731351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :three except for the one that's last in the program < 1480731406 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, you only have to consider the tokens pairwise because if a combination of three tokens were relevant, you'd definitely have an overlap somewhere < 1480731630 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the delimiters neighboring a token should be unique for each occurrence, that takes care of all strings containing a whole token < 1480731648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for each occurrence of that token < 1480731739 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could perhaps use nine delimiters to simply encode the occurrence numbers of their neighbors. < 1480731794 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now i'm assuming we're using a reasonably large character set) < 1480731837 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then there still remains preventing repetition of substrings not containing a whole token < 1480731848 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*triple repetition < 1480731982 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that may not be the easiest thing to solve. < 1480732253 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the most common accidental tokens (I call these "incidents" in the docs, just because I can) involve a delimeter plus half a token < 1480732617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :< A698 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DOUBLE O [Ꚙ] < 1480732617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :< A699 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER DOUBLE O [ꚙ] < 1480732617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :< A69A CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER CROSSED O [Ꚛ] < 1480732617 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :< A69B CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER CROSSED O [ꚛ] < 1480732631 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :new cyrillic O letters in unicode hth < 1480732653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no DOUBLE-CROSSED? scow. < 1480732672 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⛵ < 1480732812 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode DOUBLE CROSS < 1480732817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480732916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not new enough hth < 1480732921 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1480732922 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8ballreplies \ airports.dat \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ candide \ cat \ Complaints.mp3 \ conscripts \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ headers \ headers.gch \ hello \ lua \ maimer \ maimery \ maze \ mtg \ nothp \ recipe \ scapegoats \ scowrevs \ sedtest \ UnicodeData.txt \ units.dat \ usercm < 1480732937 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt < 1480732942 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2016-12-03 02:41:51 URL: ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt [1686443] -> "UnicodeData.txt" [1] < 1480732949 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv UnicodeData.txt share/ < 1480732950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `UnicodeData.txt share/' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1480732957 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drat and double drat < 1480732959 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv UnicodeData.txt share/ < 1480732961 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480732978 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode DOUBLE CROSS < 1480732979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480732987 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIES < 1480733021 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⛵ < 1480733022 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+26F5 SAILBOAT] < 1480733066 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode DOUBLE O < 1480733067 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+033F COMBINING DOUBLE OVERLINE \ UTF-8: cc bf UTF-16BE: 033f Decimal: ̿ \ ̿ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ Combining: 230 (Above) \ \ U+1AB8 COMBINING DOUBLE OPEN MARK BELOW \ UTF-8: e1 aa b8 UTF-16BE: 1ab8 Decimal: ᪸ \ ᪸ \ Category: Mn (Mark, Non-Spacing) \ Bidi: NSM (Non-Spacing Mark) \ < 1480733075 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1480733095 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LETTER DOUBLE O < 1480733097 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+A698 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DOUBLE O \ UTF-8: ea 9a 98 UTF-16BE: a698 Decimal: Ꚙ \ Ꚙ (ꚙ) \ Lowercase: U+A699 \ Category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ \ U+A699 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER DOUBLE O \ UTF-8: ea 9a 99 UTF-16BE: a699 Decimal: ꚙ \ ꚙ (Ꚙ) \ Uppercase: U+A698 \ Category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) \ < 1480733155 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you were searching for something that wasn't even in there. < 1480733448 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: TOMB CHICKEN < 1480733478 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily's quit messages are becoming more grave < 1480734786 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp piggle < 1480734792 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion1:higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / be left perplexed \ Binary file reflection matches < 1480734846 0 :dingbat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bkwxmtredsrfyuos JOIN :#esoteric < 1480734917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minskily, Munskily / ais523 / calling from Birmingham / is a sublime // master of intricate / esotericity / yet is confounded by / travel in time. < 1480734932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth. < 1480734945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I imagine it helped someone :-D < 1480735156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone in the past, perhaps < 1480735213 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Lobachevsky's name fit the pattern, it would go well with "Minskily Pinskily" < 1480735221 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doag quotes < 1480735223 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9699:2016-11-16 addquote ais523: Hmm, I think the wisdom database is like the quotes file, except it\'s for when people think they\'re being funny, rather than when other people think they\'re funny. \ 9643:2016-11-07 addquote I\'m waiting for the sequels to Gravity to come out: Electromagnetism and t < 1480735244 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Minskily, Munskily / ais523 / calling from Birmingham / is a sublime // master of intricate / esotericity / yet is confounded by / travel in time. < 1480735247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1299) Minskily, Munskily / ais523 / calling from Birmingham / is a sublime // master of intricate / esotericity / yet is confounded by / travel in time. < 1480735248 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling? < 1480735267 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the wrong word? < 1480735398 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's Nynorsk English and not American English. < 1480735450 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i guess i should have used hail. < 1480735516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sedlast 1299s/call/hail/ < 1480735516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minskily, Munskily / ais523 / hailing from Birmingham / is a sublime // master of intricate / esotericity / yet is confounded by / travel in time. < 1480735518 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotes// EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ GKennethR: he shou < 1480735526 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hailing is better I think < 1480735529 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing you said it at the last moment there < 1480735537 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise i'd've been misquoting you < 1480735548 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a time travel quote < 1480735554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true enough < 1480735557 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan retroactively unmisquoted himself < 1480735560 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i temporarily misquoting < 1480735567 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i temporally misquoting < 1480735592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Munsk < 1480735595 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1299) Minskily, Munskily / ais523 / hailing from Birmingham / is a sublime // master of intricate / esotericity / yet is confounded by / travel in time. < 1480735619 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how about adding a command on the third-to-last line? < 1480735636 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A comma < 1480735650 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also on the second line. < 1480735653 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the first line. < 1480735659 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the slashes work as commas < 1480735662 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This reminds me of a double dactyl. < 1480735667 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newline is a punctuation mark on IRC, after all < 1480735726 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Higgledy-piggledy / Emily Dickinson / Liked to use dashes / Instead of full stops. // Nowadays, faced with such / Idiosyncracy / Critics and editors / Send for the cops. < 1480736042 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1480736745 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had commas initially, that was one of the things i was checking the hppavilion one for < 1480736763 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1480736783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the period. oh wait. < 1480736790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you going by my example? < 1480736792 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad idea hth < 1480736809 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sdrawkcab gnihtyreve seod < 1480736847 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one wasn't even a good one. < 1480736852 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written good ones in here before, I think. < 1480736856 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it was another channel. < 1480736932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1480736956 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i was only checking it for formatting hth < 1480736972 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even that didn't work out hth < 1480736976 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1480736985 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it did < 1480736993 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i should stop being scow about it < 1480736995 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth < 1480737079 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oc < 1480737098 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently profunctor optics are what it takes to be proficient at functional programming nowadays. < 1480737104 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp / < 1480737105 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃:Frosty the Snowman / had a very shiny nose / And everywhere that Frosty went / the nose was sure to go. \ evilipse:evilipse, the most obnoxious of evil people, likes to use chmod 000 / -R \ ha:Ha van szíved, hogy mindazt, mit elértél, / Ha kell, egyetlen kockára rakd, / s túltegyed magad, ha veszteség ér, / s ne legyen róla többé e < 1480737133 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to like not using commas < 1480737138 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's fine. < 1480737146 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no wisdomfmt rules. < 1480737202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote / < 1480737203 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :428) beautiful summer / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck \ 476) i am out of all the fame loops and the australien soap opera loops so much loop / s omcuh \ 1028) beautiful summer / massacres in qusayr / sent from my iphone \ 1134) A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thoug < 1480737244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 quote " / " < 1480737246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3:in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric." \ 1258) MAHJONG TILE AUTUMN / HIRAGANA LETTER YA / SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW \ 1299) Minskily, Munskily / ais523 / hailing from Birmingham / is a sublime // master of intricate / esotericity < 1480737279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sublime poetry collection < 1480737287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now food -> < 1480737289 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a `3 as well? if so, how far do the numbers go? < 1480737297 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do we generate them automatically < 1480737299 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are `1 and `2 < 1480737302 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(idea: using `n generates a command for `n+1) < 1480737308 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1480737309 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3/3: / yet is confounded by / travel in time. < 1480737315 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thus if used as intended we never run out) < 1480737333 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the only reason `2 exists is if you forgot to use `1 < 1480737343 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you can use `spam n to see the nth line of output of the previous command. < 1480737354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nth IRC line, I mean. Not line line. < 1480737366 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, `1 sets up for `spam, and `2 retroactively `1s the last message < 1480737366 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have to tell it what it was because HackEgo isn't stateful unless you tell it to be < 1480737393 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1480737398 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could replace `` with `1 < 1480737409 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that has drawbacks. < 1480737450 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, useless commits for every command that doesn't overspam < 1480737464 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another possibility is to commit only if the command generates multiple IRC lines of output < 1480737467 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, spam doesn't commit. < 1480737477 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it uses tempfiles? < 1480737491 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp doesn't persist across HackEgo invocations. < 1480737498 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But /hackenv/tmp is in .hgignore < 1480737636 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering what happens if you put .hgignore in itself < 1480737646 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would the change not be saved? or would it be impossible to revert? < 1480737665 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg checks .hgignore on commit < 1480737669 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it'd revert because the .hgignore would be versioned in the revision you're reverting /to/… < 1480737714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it wouldn't be reverted. It would just not be recorded. < 1480737725 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One trick you can do is putting a wildcard in .hgignore that ignores everything. < 1480737773 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the effect of that is that all changes until the wildcard is removed aren't committed. < 1480737797 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, maybe I'm thinking of the other case, where you put canary in .hgignore and delete it. < 1480737803 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were too many cases, I can't remember. < 1480737804 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that change to .hgignore itself not be commited? < 1480737811 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is, we figured out how to delete canary. < 1480737818 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But not how to commit it.) < 1480737819 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the idea of ignoring the canary, though < 1480737825 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still wouldn't be a /proper/ deletion of the canary though, would it? < 1480737829 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1480737830 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^tmp/ < 1480737836 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would a revert restore it? < 1480737841 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '^canary' >> .hgignore < 1480737844 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480737845 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1480737847 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480737848 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1480737851 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: ASCII text < 1480737855 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1480737859 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1480737859 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: canary: No such file or directory < 1480737868 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :race condition? < 1480737870 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep '' canary < 1480737871 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: canary: No such file or directory < 1480737883 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat? < 1480737886 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`xxd canary < 1480737887 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000: 6361 743a 2063 616e 6172 793a 204e 6f20 cat: canary: No \ 0000010: 7375 6368 2066 696c 6520 6f72 2064 6972 such file or dir \ 0000020: 6563 746f 7279 0a ectory. < 1480737902 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that message is actually the contents of canary < 1480737906 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1480737906 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^tmp/ \ ^canary < 1480737925 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled .hgignore//2s,.,, < 1480737926 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1480737927 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.hgignore//^tmp/ \ canary < 1480737931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1480737933 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1480737939 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, hmm, I think I raceconditioned your revert < 1480737943 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1480737944 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^tmp/ \ ^canary < 1480737945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, your correction < 1480737947 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1480737949 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1480737951 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1480737958 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1480737959 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^tmp/ \ canary < 1480737959 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1480737960 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^tmp/ \ canary < 1480737963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1480737965 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480737967 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1480737969 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: ASCII text < 1480737975 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how did we remove canary back then? < 1480738004 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I tried to replace it with a symlink to itself once, but I don't think that worked < 1480738009 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ln -sf canary canary < 1480738010 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ln --help' for more information. < 1480738014 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf canary canary < 1480738017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: `canary' and `canary' are the same file < 1480738029 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd .hgignore//2s#.*#.*# < 1480738030 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roswbud! < 1480738033 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :…and why would ln care about that? < 1480738036 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled .hgignore//2s#.*#.*# < 1480738038 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.hgignore//^tmp/ \ .* < 1480738048 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1480738051 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480738054 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1480738056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: ASCII text < 1480738070 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled .hgignore//2,d < 1480738071 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 3: unexpected `,' < 1480738077 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled .hgignore//2,$d < 1480738079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.hgignore//^tmp/ < 1480738218 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1480738284 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo ^canary/ >> .hgignore < 1480738286 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480738295 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm -rf canary; mkdir canary < 1480738297 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480738302 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` file canary < 1480738303 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: directory < 1480738306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rmdir canary < 1480738307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480738309 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary < 1480738310 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary: ERROR: cannot open `canary' (No such file or directory) < 1480738318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1480738319 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access canary: No such file or directory < 1480738324 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1480738349 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now all commits will fail. < 1480738651 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from commits that create canary, presumably? < 1480738661 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo test | tee test < 1480738663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1480738666 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1480738667 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: test: No such file or directory < 1480738678 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, creating canary won't be a commit, because it's ignored. < 1480738694 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1480738695 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^tmp/ \ ^canary/ < 1480738708 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1480738718 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i '2,$d' .hgignore; touch canary < 1480738720 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.hgignore//^tmp/ < 1480738724 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1480738725 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^tmp/ < 1480738738 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it is possible after all :-) < 1480738759 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf canary canary-tmp; mv canary-tmp canary < 1480738760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: `canary-tmp' and `canary' are the same file < 1480738778 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file canary-tmp < 1480738779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary-tmp: symbolic link to `canary' < 1480738801 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv -f canary-tmp canary < 1480738801 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1480738805 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv -f canary-tmp canary < 1480738806 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: `canary-tmp' and `canary' are the same file < 1480738870 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf canary canary-tmp2 < 1480738872 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480738879 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv canary-tmp2 canary-tmp < 1480738881 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480738897 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it allows /that/, but doesn't allow renaming a symlink over the file it's a symlink too? < 1480738909 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf ../canary tmp/canary-tmp3 < 1480738910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480738924 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/canary-tmp3 < 1480738925 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480738939 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv tmp/canary-tmp3 canary < 1480738940 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: `tmp/canary-tmp3' and `canary' are the same file < 1480738947 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but after the rename, they wouldn't be! < 1480738958 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm tmp/canary-tmp3 < 1480738958 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480738966 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I tried to tab-complete that; it didn't work) < 1480738971 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary* < 1480738972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Dec 3 04:18 canary \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Dec 3 04:20 canary-tmp -> canary < 1480739015 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s canary tmp/canary-tmp4 < 1480739016 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480739024 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv tmp/canary-tmp4 canary < 1480739027 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `tmp/canary-tmp4': No such file or directory < 1480739045 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l tmp/canary* < 1480739046 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access tmp/canary*: No such file or directory < 1480739054 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1480739065 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary* < 1480739066 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Dec 3 04:23 canary \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Dec 3 04:20 canary-tmp -> canary < 1480739089 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -sf canary tmp/canary-tmp4; ls -l tmp/canary* < 1480739090 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Dec 3 04:24 tmp/canary-tmp4 -> canary < 1480739098 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv tmp/canary-tmp4 canary < 1480739100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `tmp/canary-tmp4': No such file or directory < 1480739101 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What's possible after all? < 1480739119 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: committing into your system that doesn't allow commits < 1480739139 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think what I said was that it doesn't allow commits as long as that file doesn't exist. < 1480739142 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that's what I meant. < 1480739155 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I don't seem to be able to create tmp/canary-tmp4 and have it persist, for some reason < 1480739156 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But creating the file isn't a commit in itself, because it's ignored. < 1480739168 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is bizarre, as tmp/canary-tmp3 worked fine < 1480739178 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. The mv trick. < 1480739185 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv canary-tmp tmp < 1480739187 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480739194 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat tmp/canary-tmp < 1480739195 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp/canary-tmp: No such file or directory < 1480739206 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi > tmp/test < 1480739206 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat canary-tmp < 1480739207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480739207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: canary-tmp: No such file or directory < 1480739211 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv tmp/test . < 1480739213 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `tmp/test': No such file or directory < 1480739213 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, I think I know what's happening < 1480739216 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l test tmp/test < 1480739217 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access test: No such file or directory \ ls: cannot access tmp/test: No such file or directory < 1480739225 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken symlinks get deleted from the filesystem < 1480739228 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` touch tmp/canary < 1480739228 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480739231 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty, what's the word oerjan uses? < 1480739238 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s canary tmp/canary-tmp < 1480739239 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1480739239 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln: failed to create symbolic link `tmp/canary-tmp': File exists < 1480739251 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ll tmp/canary-tmp < 1480739251 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: ll: command not found < 1480739255 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see the tmp/ thing I did above? It's not related to links. < 1480739256 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l tmp/canary-tmp < 1480739257 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 6 Dec 3 04:25 tmp/canary-tmp -> canary < 1480739262 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or to canary.) < 1480739277 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1480739282 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv tmp/canary-tmp canary < 1480739284 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `tmp/canary-tmp': No such file or directory < 1480739293 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l tmp/canary-tmp < 1480739294 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access tmp/canary-tmp: No such file or directory < 1480739304 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here: < 1480739306 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? < 1480739309 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l test tmp/test < 1480739310 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access test: No such file or directory \ ls: cannot access tmp/test: No such file or directory < 1480739312 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi > tmp/test < 1480739314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480739318 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/test < 1480739318 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1480739322 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` mv tmp/test . < 1480739324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `tmp/test': No such file or directory < 1480739326 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l test tmp/test < 1480739327 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access test: No such file or directory \ ls: cannot access tmp/test: No such file or directory < 1480739328 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1480739341 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -ld tmp < 1480739342 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Dec 3 04:28 tmp < 1480739366 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This tricks people who try to make a big file in one commit by writing into tmp/ in a few commands and then moving it. < 1480739370 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just gone. < 1480739388 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does tmp get cleared whenever you write to outside tmp, then? < 1480739392 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem to get cleared instantly < 1480739401 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary tmp/canary-tmp; mv tmp/canary-tmp canary < 1480739402 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access tmp/canary-tmp: No such file or directory \ mv: cannot stat `tmp/canary-tmp': No such file or directory \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Dec 3 04:27 canary < 1480739410 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s canary tmp/canary-tmp; mv tmp/canary-tmp canary < 1480739411 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480739417 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l canary < 1480739419 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 0 Dec 3 04:29 canary < 1480739428 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/ isn't getting cleared. < 1480739430 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls tmp < 1480739431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary \ spline \ spout < 1480739437 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess making the canary a symlink isn't getting committed < 1480739478 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure what's causing, say, mv to fail to find files in tmp < 1480739480 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless mv is not /bin/mb < 1480739483 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*/bin/mv < 1480739487 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` which mv < 1480739488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/mv < 1480739521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv is mv < 1480739539 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi; echo hi > test < 1480739541 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1480739554 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi >&2; echo huh > test < 1480739556 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1480739567 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `cat tmp/test hi `` mv tmp/test . mv: cannot stat `tmp/test': No such file or directory < 1480739569 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the details anymore. < 1480739572 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test < 1480739574 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480739575 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably the best example/counterexample < 1480739578 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1480739580 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what's happening, though. < 1480739591 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the fact that HackEgo runs each command twice < 1480739598 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :once for side effects, once for the output < 1480739608 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I call mv, the file's already moved by the time it goes to run it for the output < 1480739610 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not quite right. < 1480739612 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so it doesn't find it the second time < 1480739625 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It runs it once, and then if the repository changes, it reverts to a clean state and runs it again. < 1480739632 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :While not allowing other commands in parallel. < 1480739635 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To avoid race conditions. < 1480739650 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the revert doesn't restore the file in tmp/, because it's ignored. < 1480739658 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it does delete the destination file. < 1480739660 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, so the file just vanishes altogether < 1480739664 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1480740044 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls canary* tmp/canary* < 1480740045 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :canary \ tmp/canary < 1480740050 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm tmp/canary < 1480740050 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480740053 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat .hgignore < 1480740053 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^tmp/ < 1480740075 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish we could get to tmp/ via the HTTP server. < 1480740080 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like pastes being committed to hg. < 1480745861 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1480747037 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could collaborative quiz writing with Internet Quiz Engine work? < 1480747058 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does regular quiz writing work? < 1480747150 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is simply a text file. The format would be the same in this case, I would just to see how collaborative quiz writing might be done < 1480747173 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use a collaborative text editor like Etherpad or Gobby to edit the text file together? < 1480747257 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe for real time collaboration (if that is what it does), but maybe there is other ways I don't know < 1480747280 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think there are different things which can be wanted, such as real time collaboration or not real time < 1480747296 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real time is better than not real time. < 1480747684 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose one way might be to make discussion on IRC for various people to suggest questions and one person to write them into one file, but another way might be for anyone to edit the file as a wiki, although there still may be some issues involved with such thing specifically with Internet Quiz Engine or with quiz files for other systems too just in general. < 1480748243 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Real time is better than fake time < 1480748455 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1480748466 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:the u//The U are a very mad people. \ phantom____________________hoover//Your soundcard works perfectly. \ physiology//Physiology looks confusingly like psychology when written in English. \ nooga//no. \ dragon//Dragons are fractal creatures of magic, capable of shrinking or expanding to any size. T < 1480748488 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1480748488 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:aneb invented them to live inside his string diagrams, but they prefer to hover around pinheads and feed on angels. < 1480748496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` type n < 1480748497 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: type: n: not found < 1480748506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ln -s spam bin/n < 1480748509 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1480748522 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n 2 < 1480748523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:aneb invented them to live inside his string diagrams, but they prefer to hover around pinheads and feed on angels. < 1480748532 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits dragon < 1480748535 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän < 1480752158 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480752372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? members < 1480752389 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, #esoteric has regulars, not members. Who told you about members? There are definitely no members here, and you wouldn't be allowed to know about them, anyway. < 1480752443 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that the uncompressed size of FreeUHS is smaller than the compressed size of OpenUHS (not counting the stuff under the javadoc/ directory). Even though, FreeUHS also includes such feature as regular expression search, toggle 88a mode, a compiler, and some other features. < 1480752508 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1480752532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480752574 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? regulars < 1480752575 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regulars? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1480755116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1480756949 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zchic7lmh1m5mw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1480759165 0 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1480759432 0 :gniourf!~gniourf@pdm-l03.insa-lyon.fr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1480763234 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480763497 0 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: /dev/null is full < 1480764988 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1480765144 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1480767445 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480767650 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1480767663 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480768467 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1480769003 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1480769159 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:548b:ed54:5866:d0d4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1480769298 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1480769778 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:548b:ed54:5866:d0d4 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1480772354 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480772592 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nostril. < 1480772602 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I said nostril. < 1480772612 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the nostril was said. < 1480772750 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What have you got against nostrils? < 1480772750 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i fnord accept the account in wikipedia as the one over there... < 1480772757 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nostril no thrill < 1480773402 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a stril? < 1480773724 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:8d6f:11ca:76b8:a767 JOIN :#esoteric < 1480773953 0 :Ox0dea!~dea@unaffiliated/ox0dea PRIVMSG #esoteric :A coistril was something akin to a squire once. < 1480773960 0 :Ox0dea!~dea@unaffiliated/ox0dea PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonus points for being anagrammatical with "clitoris". < 1480774012 0 :Ox0dea!~dea@unaffiliated/ox0dea PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "testril" is apparently an archaic synonym for "tester". < 1480774017 0 :Ox0dea!~dea@unaffiliated/ox0dea PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are all the strils I know. < 1480774072 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :WordNet knows about Zestril. < 1480774074 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn zestril < 1480774076 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "zestril" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1480774076 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zestril < 1480774076 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: an ACE inhibiting drug (trade names Prinival or Zestril) < 1480774076 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : administered as an antihypertensive and after heart attacks < 1480774076 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [syn: {lisinopril}, {Prinival}, {Zestril}] < 1480774091 0 :Ox0dea!~dea@unaffiliated/ox0dea PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proper nouns are verboten. < 1480774095 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zestril and nostril are the two stril nouns it knows. < 1480774113 0 :Ox0dea!~dea@unaffiliated/ox0dea PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got my fancy ones from words-insane. < 1480774273 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to use “testril” with my teammates. mwah ah ah. < 1480775141 0 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.252.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1480775142 0 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.252.176 QUIT :Changing host < 1480775142 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1480776393 0 :Ox0dea!~dea@unaffiliated/ox0dea QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.7-dev < 1480777373 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1480778959 0 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1480779288 0 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: found 1 in /dev/zero < 1480782300 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1480784332 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: MASCOT CHICKEN < 1480786601 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden QUIT :Quit: Fing < 1480786739 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden JOIN :#esoteric < 1480788065 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1480788561 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1480788586 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1480788627 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1480789268 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50440&oldid=50437 5* 03Slnetaiga 5* (+12) 10Added LAMPA < 1480789364 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :one the topic of noise, why is there so much of it in todays world? < 1480789403 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :an I am talking about audio noise made by thoughtlessness or brusequeness < 1480789745 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1480789883 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1480790089 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1480790098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07LAMPA14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=50441 5* 03Slnetaiga 5* (+1096) 10Initial < 1480790098 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1480790149 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Slnetaiga14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50442&oldid=50415 5* 03Slnetaiga 5* (+26) 10 < 1480791559 0 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1480792111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03John Cena 237894728 5* 10New user account < 1480792315 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480792421 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:8d6f:11ca:76b8:a767 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1480792616 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:6cab:8d9c:8fa9:7272 JOIN :#esoteric < 1480792735 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1480792828 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480793528 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1480793545 0 :function!?@? NICK :trout < 1480793571 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1480794841 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally uploaded my COMPLEX implementation < 1480794841 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Taneb/COMPLEX < 1480795152 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. dig the file extension ^^ < 1480795332 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1480795362 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1480795482 0 :trout!~root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily lol < 1480796625 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1480796671 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone's been trying to make a non-trivial quine in Daoyu and I don't know if I should tell them to stop < 1480796713 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-174-100-169-144.neo.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to prove a non-empty quine nonexistent in a specific language? < 1480796749 0 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480796888 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PNICTOGEN CHICKEN < 1480799465 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any programming language that literally has programmable semicolons? < 1480799747 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1480800228 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you meant? < 1480800350 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1480800990 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: One "analogy" for monads in haskell is programmable semicolons < 1480801001 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm thinking about something more literal < 1480801208 0 :wlp1s1!jeffl@unaffiliated/iczero QUIT :Changing host < 1480801208 0 :wlp1s1!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1480801362 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but still it is difficult for me to figure out what is meant exactly < 1480802281 0 :wlp1s1!jeffl@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Changing host < 1480802281 0 :wlp1s1!jeffl@unaffiliated/iczero JOIN :#esoteric < 1480802823 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: At each semicolon, some extra code runs and decides what to do with that line < 1480802912 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1480802944 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of any such thing, nor does that really make much sense to me anyways exactly as is < 1480802944 0 :tromp!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480802963 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and monads in Haskell don't work like that anyways) < 1480803166 0 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1480803343 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they don't < 1480804087 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07DROL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50443&oldid=50388 5* 03BradleySadowsky 5* (+59) 10Add links, fix implementation naming < 1480804980 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:6cab:8d9c:8fa9:7272 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1480805604 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1480805801 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zchic7lmh1m5mw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1480805924 0 :aleph-!~hatter@unaffiliated/church- QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1480806386 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :midnight spaghetti, anyone? < 1480806395 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove, please < 1480806405 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ come here < 1480806454 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you may be a bit far away < 1480806459 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you are in, like, York < 1480806501 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're fast < 1480806502 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1480806520 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do my best < 1480806582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made midnight spaghetti recently. < 1480806591 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Taneb < 1480806591 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Taneb is Sat Dec 03 23:09:44 < 1480806609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Italian spaghetti better than the kind I bought at the store? < 1480806671 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so because i bought expensive ones < 1480806683 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you buy it at a store in Italy? < 1480806715 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I have not had Italian spaghetti in like 3 months < 1480806755 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that was in Sudtirol, so it may not count < 1480806790 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: No. < 1480807556 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1480807959 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1480808996 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1480809141 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hm, York is pretty far away from Bristol, isn't it < 1480809171 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1480809183 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1480809199 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gripe of the day: < 1480809217 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 division is wrong in, like, 4 different ways at the same time < 1480809379 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What ways is that? < 1480809402 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero division exceptions are bad and actually make the cpu slower < 1480809404 0 :impomatic_!~digital_w@host81-136-106-55.range81-136.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to visit York soon for the retro games shop! < 1480809420 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 / 2 gives 0. that's bad and irl it should give -1 < 1480809479 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it generates multiple results - division result in one register and remainder in another. multiple result instructions are bad < 1480809492 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1480809510 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some of the registers you use are fixed and that's also bad < 1480809512 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :returning only one would mean to throw away information < 1480809536 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because compilers hate fixed registers because it turns register allocation into an np complete problem) < 1480809543 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is good if they can more easily to calculate both at once < 1480809546 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also division sets flags which is also bad < 1480809559 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove : it's good on a 486 < 1480809581 0 :mad!boulam@107.190.32.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which runs in order and doesn't do 4 operations at the same tiem