00:04:15 Taneb: Tanelle. have you ever eaten welsh rarebit? 00:05:22 I want to add œ to my keyboard. I have æ under altgr a, so altgr o would be a logical place for it; however, I already have ø in that space 00:05:48 Maybe there's another place to reasonably put ø?? 00:06:19 hppavellon[1]. «œ» is ISOLevel5-e, and «ø» is ISOLevel5-o hth. 00:06:27 [wiki] [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50416&oldid=50410 * Steve * (+11) /* A */ 00:06:42 boily: So œ under altgr e? I don't like that, but I could do it. 00:11:04 not AltGr, that one is ISO Level 3. 00:12:24 boily: Oh? 00:15:01 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY#/media/File:KB_Canadian_Multilingual_Standard_comment-en.svg ← the green key to the bottom right. 00:15:28 [wiki] [[Talk:Incident]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50417&oldid=50412 * Oerjan * (+426) /* Inverse lexing construction */ Shorter prefix 00:16:12 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:19:06 now i need to update my calculation _again_. and i closed the vim window with the subparts of that formula... 00:24:28 hellørjan. 00:24:34 helloily. 00:25:02 boily, once, a while back 00:25:05 Can't remember it too well 00:31:07 The Gävle goat burned down again. :/ 00:34:17 I am now designing the ULTIMATE keyboard 00:34:29 Well, it has to be implemented as multiple keyboards 00:35:05 At the moment. One for standard english with some additions, one for greek, at least one for math. 00:35:30 Unfortunately, there's no way to add more shifts without losing some keys :/ 00:36:06 What'd be really nice is a stickykeys-like shift; tap greekshift and the next keypress is greek, then it turns off. Tap it again and that's aborted. 00:36:07 -!- Bowserinator_ has joined. 00:37:37 Space Cadet Hppavilion 00:37:51 boily: Yes, I want one. 00:39:28 * hppavilion[1] wanders off 00:40:41 relevant: https://packages.debian.org/sid/bucklespring 00:41:38 “Buckle emulates the sound of an old IBM Model-M space saver bucklespring keyboard” 00:43:14 Jafellot. :D 00:43:44 I type on blue cherries at home. I love their sound and feeling. 00:51:05 fizzie, that was fast 01:04:01 Yes, it's not even December yet. 01:13:59 -!- chatter has joined. 01:17:08 hm that prefix improvement has only a tiny effect on when the O(log n) version takes over 01:17:09 * hppavilion[1] wanders on 01:17:12 Bach 01:17:50 boily, why did you ask about welsh rarebit 01:18:58 . o O ( it's boily, it's weird food, what's the question? ) 01:19:26 I was just talking with my father about <ø>, which appears in our last name (historically; it isn't officially present any more). I was explaining "apparently, this is how you pronounce it: [ø]" 01:19:56 (I explained that it's the initial sound from the english name of the letter "a", but with the lips rounded. I pray to oerjan this is correct) 01:20:06 I remember when I was smaller making welsh rarebit from a recipe in a recipe book for children type thing 01:20:12 I can't remember what was in it 01:20:19 -!- chatter has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 01:20:27 Other than that there was no rabbit, despite my expectations 01:20:29 hppavilion[1]: well, close enough. 01:20:34 (for reference, the initial sound from the english name of the letter "a" is also the name of the letter "e" in German) 01:20:52 oerjan: Darn 01:21:16 hppavilion[1]: i'm just saying, you're not going to get a sound _exactly_ right with that kind of comparison. 01:21:29 oerjan: Well, yes, true 01:22:07 He said I would make a good Linguist. I informed him that "good" is not the usual adjective for a particularly excellent linguist, but that I doubted he wants me to tell him what it is in polite company. 01:22:19 s/wants/wanted/ 01:23:02 i think wikipedia claims it's more like [œ] when short. might be dialect dependent, like everything. 01:23:23 (and even [ø] and [œ] are not perfect precision...) 01:23:58 as in, norwegian ø definitely _feels_ more open when short than long. 01:23:59 oerjan: Yeah... 01:24:44 there's also the question of rounding: compressed lips or protruded? 01:24:55 IPA using æ and œ for monophthongs is weird. If permitted at all, they should only be allowed as a stylistic ligature of [ae] and [oe] respectively, and that would be discouraged 01:26:27 æ is actually a monophthong in norwegian hth 01:26:45 and it's pronounced very like the ipa version 01:29:11 oerjan: Yeah, it still bugs me 01:29:23 oerjan: Because it's clearly an a and an e glued together in a horrible frankenletter 01:30:09 that's how several other letters originated. 01:30:14 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 01:30:17 including the ¨diacritics 01:30:30 *+ 01:31:33 well the umlaut version, anyway 01:31:51 oerjan: itym "ümlaut" hth. 01:32:17 It has been declared that all diacritics must be included in their name. 01:41:25 Probabilistic Combinatorics seems like an interesting field. 01:41:35 Or, idea of a field. Not sure if it's a thing yet. 01:42:12 combinatorics is used a lot in probability. 01:44:23 Taneb: oerjan answered truely. 01:45:00 oerjan: Oh. 01:45:43 oerjan: I'm trying to find the equation for the general case of the birthday problem; essentially, n-choose-repeating-k-and-check-for-probability-of-repeats 01:48:07 Hm, I think the odds might be something like (n choose k)/(n!), where p > 1 includes probability of repetition 01:50:01 tip: calculate the number of choices _without_ repeats, and subtract. 01:50:27 `wisdom 01:50:41 octarine//Octarine is a black variety of peach, from which the color is named. 01:51:00 `? peach 01:51:01 peach? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:51:54 Peach is a princess who hangs out with a plumber sometimes. Shigeru Miyamoto invented her. 01:52:47 Taneb: don't try to pass off your inventions on other people 01:52:52 i vaguely thought they'd never actually met, or something. 01:52:53 it's not dignified 01:53:13 `? people who taneb is not 01:53:15 elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond 01:53:23 shachaf, is Shigeru Miyamoto on that list? 01:54:01 I'm not sure. 01:54:18 Is Shigeru Miyamoto elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, or James Bond? 01:54:26 `? slwd 01:54:28 `slwd // 01:54:48 I am not sure 01:54:54 `slwd people who taneb is not//s/$/. Pending approval: Shigeru Miyamoto./ 01:54:56 people who taneb is not//elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond. Pending approval: Shigeru Miyamoto. 01:55:09 In any case it is well past time for me to go to bed 01:55:21 So, goodnight! 01:55:31 bonne tanuitb! 01:56:11 boily notte 02:03:32 `wisdom 02:03:33 epsilon//epsilon stands for Extensible Platform of Integrated Languages for Model Management (EPILMM) 02:09:49 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:12:14 oerjan: So that would be... n!-(n choose k) possible ways of satisfying it? 02:14:51 Hm, one can make a gamma variant of n choose k using «n choose k = n!/k!(n-k)!», treating n! as Γ(n++) 02:21:46 What is the maximum amount of power a bank (or other) security system can take without being damaged? 02:27:51 This can apply to more than just security systems; anyy system with backup power. 02:28:35 hppavilion[1]: no, n^k - k! (n choose k) hth 02:29:21 (possibly.) 02:29:31 ...oh 02:30:28 hezzo38. bank, as in the physical building? 02:34:13 -!- boily has quit (Quit: GELATINOUS CHICKEN). 02:37:06 Yes 02:37:36 (Not even necessarily a bank; it could be any physical building with a security system that may have backup power) 02:39:43 5 choose 2.5 ≈ 10.864977448406725 02:43:03 the general case would have multiple repeating items, each with its own multiplicity 02:43:46 TIL ~36.7879% of permutations are also derangements 02:44:25 > exp (-1) 02:44:28 0.36787944117144233 03:31:04 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0xXDlsoZIc 03:42:14 Epic Fail {UU} Instant ;; Epic 04:32:42 \oren\! I must speak with you immediately! 04:34:20 \oren\: ^^^ (in case the ! messed something up) 04:54:13 <\oren\> yes? 04:55:46 \oren\: neoletters lacks support for ಠ! ಠ_ಠ 04:55:59 <\oren\> `unicode 04:56:00 No output. 04:56:07 <\oren\> `unicode ಠ 04:56:09 U+0020 SPACE \ UTF-8: 20 UTF-16BE: 0020 Decimal: \ \ Category: Zs (Separator, Space) \ Bidi: WS (Whitespace) \ \ U+0CA0 KANNADA LETTER TTHA \ UTF-8: e0 b2 a0 UTF-16BE: 0ca0 Decimal: ಠ \ ಠ \ Category: Lo (Letter, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) 04:56:16 <\oren\> Kannada... 04:56:18 <\oren\> ok 04:56:26 Yes. It's very important 04:56:34 \oren\: (that's the symbol in the look of disapproval) 04:56:43 (if unclear) 05:01:42 How many fonts are including Kannada alphabets mainly because of such purpose? 05:02:11 <\oren\> ok, it'll be in my next release along with ಥ_ಥ 05:02:33 I thought you were Kannadian. 05:02:56 <\oren\> I'm more Tarentonian 05:10:12 <\oren\> anything else I should add? 05:10:44 zzo38: All of them? 05:11:31 <\oren\> I wonder if those letters are used more than the entire rest of that alphabet combined? 05:12:38 \oren\: Probably. ರ_ರ makes for prophetic look of disapproval. 05:13:03 * \oren\ scrolls through Unicode, and notices that Tibetan has four swastikas in it 05:13:17 You need more than two swastikas? 05:13:28 zzo38: I need ALL the swastikas 05:13:33 swastikæ? 05:13:39 <\oren\> yes, it has both chiral forms with and without dots 05:13:46 Ah, OK 05:13:47 For to make America great again? 05:13:50 Well, only the ones not being used for educational, artistic, or anti-fascist purposes 05:13:55 That makes sense why you need four. 05:14:01 Oh, or historical 05:14:13 So I can properly dispose of them with other fascist symbols. 05:19:31 <\oren\> Free Pepe! 05:20:22 \oren\: Don't mind if I do 05:20:28 * hppavilion[1] takes the free pepe 05:20:33 `unidecode ‮ 05:20:34 [U+202E RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE] 05:20:40 `unicode ‮ 05:20:42 U+202E RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE \ UTF-8: e2 80 ae UTF-16BE: 202e Decimal: ‮ \ ‮ \ Category: Cf (Other, Format) \ Bidi: RLO (Right-to-Left Override) 05:20:48 ... 05:20:50 Whoops xD 05:20:52 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzu15ZezipE 05:21:15 But what block is it in?? 05:25:52 Ah, General Punctuation. Apparently. 05:27:00 -!- TieSoul has quit (Quit: Leaving). 05:56:07 -!- chatter has joined. 06:02:38 -!- chatter has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 06:02:50 -!- chatter has joined. 06:12:01 -!- chatter has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 06:12:12 -!- chatter has joined. 06:17:50 -!- chatter has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 06:26:01 -!- chatter has joined. 06:27:02 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 06:27:13 What exactly is the difference between allthetropes.org and tvtropes.org? 06:27:24 allah is doing 06:27:29 sun is not doing allah is doing 06:27:35 moon is not doing allah is doing 06:27:44 stars are not doing allah is doing 06:27:50 planets are not doing allah is doing 06:27:58 galaxies are not doing allah is doing 06:28:04 oceans are not doing allah is doing 06:28:11 mountains are not doing allah is doing 06:28:18 trees are not doing allah is doing 06:28:24 mom is not doing allah is doing 06:28:28 dad is not doing allah is doing 06:28:34 boss is not doing allah is doing 06:28:35 `ops 06:28:37 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ops: not found 06:28:39 job is not doing allah is doing 06:28:40 !ops 06:28:52 dollar is not doing allah is doing 06:29:01 degree is not doing allah is doing 06:29:07 medicine is not doing allah is doing 06:29:13 fizzie 06:29:14 customers are not doing allah is doing 06:29:25 hppavilion[1]: allthetropes is a fork due to disagreement over licensing terms 06:29:32 you can not get a job without the permission of allah 06:29:46 you can not get married without the permission of allah 06:30:02 nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah 06:30:13 -!- chatter has quit (Client Quit). 06:30:16 * hppavilion[1] gets angry at chatter without the permission of allah 06:30:18 Dammit 06:30:24 -!- chatter has joined. 06:30:33 * hppavilion[1] gets angry at chatter without the permission of allah 06:31:09 hppavilion[1]: also apparently att alleges censorship on tvt 06:31:16 https://allthetropes.org/wiki/All_The_Tropes:Why_Fork_TV_Tropes 06:31:28 light is not doing allah is doing 06:31:33 fan is not doing allah is doing 06:31:39 businessess are not doing allah is doing 06:31:46 america is not doing allah is doing 06:32:01 fire can not burn without the permission of allah 06:32:34 knife can not cut without the permission of allah 06:32:40 rulers are not doing allah is doing 06:32:42 -!- MetaNova has joined. 06:32:48 governments are not doing allah is doing 06:32:54 sleep is not doing allah is doing 06:33:02 hunger is not doing allah is doing 06:33:08 Hello MetaNova 06:33:21 food does not take away the hunger allah takes away the hunger 06:33:49 MetaNova: We seem to be under attack from a wannabe isis jihadi right now. E just comes off as kind of pathetic. 06:34:00 ps aux f 06:34:07 whoops, wrong window 06:34:12 xD 06:34:13 yeah I'm here as a witness 06:34:20 MetaNova: Oh, really? 06:34:38 \oren\: You wouldn't happen to be oppy? 06:34:46 @time \oren\ 06:34:47 Local time for \oren\ is Mon Nov 28 06:36:20 2016 06:34:56 Darn, 06:30 :/ 06:35:06 that's wrong 06:35:10 local time for oren is 1:30 06:35:11 alercah: Oh?? 06:35:12 Oh. 06:35:19 that said 06:35:24 there are insufficient ops in this channel 06:35:29 Yes 06:35:31 ^ops 06:35:33 ais, fizzie, oerjan 06:35:38 * MetaNova virtually kicks chatter 06:35:45 all europeans 06:35:51 @time fizzie 06:35:52 Local time for fizzie is Mon Nov 28 06:35:51 2016 06:35:52 Yes 06:36:09 ais523 isn't European anymore. 06:36:51 @tell oerjan At the moment, there seems to be a wannabe jihadi in the channel spamming with several hundred " is not doing allah is doing" and " can not without allah's permission" and such. 06:36:51 Consider it noted. 06:37:00 also... it's 1:30, time for me to sleep 06:37:09 shachaf: he still is 06:37:32 @tell oerjan It has been determined that the channel has insufficient ops farther to the west. hyh. 06:37:32 Consider it noted. 06:39:09 Hm, chatter is using the DC connection. 06:39:20 Only on this channel though. Needs to learn /allchan. 06:39:27 water does not take away the thirst allah takes away the thirst 06:39:33 seeing is not doing allah is doing 06:39:42 hearing is not doing allah is doing 06:39:48 seasons are not doing allah is doing 06:39:54 weather is not doing allah is doing 06:39:59 chatter: I need some bacon, you keep going while I'm gone 06:39:59 humans are not doing allah is doing 06:40:13 animals are not doing allah is doing 06:40:29 off to read about lady chatterley 06:40:40 the best amongst you is he who learns the quran and teaches it 06:41:06 one letter read from book of allah amounts to one good deed and allah multiplies one good deed ten times 06:41:22 -!- xfix has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 06:42:10 hearts get rusted as does iron with water to remove rust from heart recitation of quran and rememberance of death 06:42:18 heart is likened to a mirror 06:42:20 FireFly is also an op and also European. 06:42:37 when a person commits one sin a black dot sustains the heart 06:42:50 FireFly isn't on the access list 06:43:26 to accept islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except allah and muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger 06:43:46 No? 06:43:55 I don't know how the freenode-staff thing works. 06:43:56 Wait, I think my mother is government enough that she can send the DHS after chatter 06:44:05 shachaf: the freenode-staff is a pseudo-account 06:44:15 it's not a real person and isn't actually used for anything besides a placeholder 06:44:27 Where in 6dc98929@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.201.137.41 do I get useful information? 06:44:39 if you wanted to grant all freenode staff channel operator status, you should have added *!*@freenode/staff/* 06:44:46 Ah. OK then. 06:44:50 hppavilion[1]: the most useful part of all that is 109.201.137.41 06:44:55 MetaNova: Figured 06:44:59 Using KiwiIRC 06:45:03 right 06:45:08 hppavilion[1]: none of your jokes have been funny and you should stop hth 06:45:14 shachaf: What jokes?? 06:45:38 shachaf: I'm not trying to make jokes right now- oh, the bacon thing? yeah, tdh 06:45:42 it's a Netherlands IP address, DHS wouldn't really work :P 06:45:50 MetaNova: You'd be surprised 06:46:22 read book http://www.fazaileamaal.com 06:46:22 <\oren\> I'm awake I'm just busy watching... some stuff 06:46:27 -!- chatter has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 06:46:43 -!- chatter has joined. 06:46:47 read book http://www.muntakhabahadith.com 06:47:32 -!- chatter has quit (Client Quit). 06:47:50 -!- chatter has joined. 06:48:12 -!- chatter has quit (Client Quit). 06:48:25 -!- chatter has joined. 06:48:28 need spiritual teacher visit http://www.alhaadi.org.za 06:48:37 allah created the sky without any pillars 06:48:40 \oren\: This is happening ^^^ 06:49:02 allah makes the sun rise from the east and allah makes the sun set in the west 06:49:17 allah makes the day into the night and allah makes the night into the day 06:49:22 <\oren\> Nay, that is the chariot of Helios 06:49:28 Why are you telling him that? 06:49:49 <\oren\> hppavilion[1]: I'm not an op BTW 06:49:56 Yes, that's been established. 06:49:57 Darn 06:50:03 <\oren\> so the best I can do is some half assed torlling 06:50:04 allah goves life and allah gives death 06:54:35 allah gives life and allah gives death 06:54:47 all creation are useless,worthless,hopeless 06:54:49 can not do 06:54:55 can not benefit 06:54:58 can not harm 06:55:24 allah is the doer of each and everything 06:55:32 when allah wants us to stand we stand 06:55:40 when allah wants us to sit we sit 06:55:40 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 06:55:48 i am not doing allah is doing 06:55:54 you are not doing allah is doing 06:56:01 atom bomb is not doing allah is doing 06:56:06 rice is not doing allah is doing 06:56:07 <\oren\> doing doing doing doing doing 06:56:20 all creation get together can not create one grain of rice 06:56:28 all humans get together can not stop rain 06:56:41 all humans get together can not make anybody hungry 06:56:57 <\oren\> doing╭╮doing╭╮doing╭╮doing 06:58:35 all humans get together can not move sun one second up or down 06:58:47 we can not count the hair on our head 06:58:55 we can not count the rain drops 06:59:04 we can not count the particles of sand 06:59:17 medicine has no power to cure 06:59:32 two people take same medicine one passes away and one does not 06:59:36 -!- chatter has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 06:59:49 -!- chatter has joined. 06:59:52 degree has no power to give job 06:59:52 Did you know it's a federal crime to engage in weather modification activity in the United States without submitting reports to the Secretary of Commerce? 06:59:59 <\oren\> 𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄ℙ 𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄ℙ 𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄ℙ 07:00:06 -!- chatter has quit (Client Quit). 07:00:17 -!- chatter has joined. 07:00:21 <\oren\> 𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄ℙ 𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄ℙ 𝕋𝕌ℝ𝕄ℙ 07:01:49 <\oren\> shachaf: wait really 07:02:00 it wouldn't surprise me 07:02:52 -!- chatter has quit (Client Quit). 07:03:22 Yes. 07:03:25 15 U.S. Code § 330a 07:04:12 It's illegal even to try. 07:07:38 -!- function has joined. 07:16:53 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 07:24:31 [wiki] [[ObCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50418&oldid=50413 * Keymaker * (+4) Linking truth-machine to its article. 07:26:44 -!- xfix has joined. 07:27:23 OK, successfully collected all the chattershit 07:28:04 Redacted all the names and sensitive info, rared it 07:30:02 \oren\: Your half-assed torlling has been sufficient. 07:30:22 good job 07:30:50 izalove: Whom? 07:30:56 \oren\ 07:31:20 Ah. 07:35:55 -!- function has quit (Quit: /dev/null is full). 08:00:46 3blue1brown is das besten 08:01:00 -!- zgrep has joined. 08:02:44 well, he's okay 08:04:19 dragonball super in a nutshell: 08:04:24 let's take all the old characters 08:04:31 and by all i mean even the dead ones 08:04:35 and give them new skins 08:04:44 and by new skins i mean new hair 08:04:52 everybody gets new hair 08:04:54 including bulma 08:04:57 and krillin 08:04:59 could work out 08:06:22 actually krilling must be bald because reasons, so just make it bald again when he goes to fight 08:06:46 the krillin story is hilarious 08:07:22 db: "i wish i could grow hair", dbz: "nah, i just shaved regularly" 08:08:09 i'm betting he had a hair transplant 08:36:00 -!- copumpkin has joined. 08:38:29 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 08:46:51 `? oerjan 08:46:53 Your esteemoologist wise mementolwrd oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Glaswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 08:56:02 `slwd oerjan//s sw s& 08:56:06 oerjan//Your esteemoologist wise mementolwrd oerjan is a lazy expert in suture complication. Also a Glasswegian who passionfruitly dislikes Roald Dahl. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. 09:00:55 I think "lazy expert" needs to be üpdated 09:09:43 apparently this does happen outside of dwarven fortresses: “In 1905, engineers working on an irrigation canal in southern California accidentally released the waters of the Colorado River into a formerly dry basin, creating a large saline lake known as the Salton Sea.” 09:17:21 I saw that spam on another channel too. 09:17:36 I've seen it in many channels. 09:17:40 It made "doing" stop sounding like a real word. 09:18:09 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 09:18:53 monday 09:19:35 fizzie: Which other channel, and was it the same nick? 09:20:07 b_jonas: Yay. 09:20:08 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:20:15 b_jonas: ...what timezone are you in? 09:20:17 hppavilion[1]: #xmonad, I think. 09:20:47 hppavilion[1]: And it was Guest_84774!779f3d76@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.159.61.118 then. 09:21:40 fizzie: Different IP 09:22:52 i believe fizzie is capable of comparing ip addresses hth 09:23:12 shachaf: Yeah, but I don't know if he saw the original ip address tdnh 09:24:13 well, he was able to look back to #xmonad logs to look at the user there 09:24:34 but it's true that looking up the screen may be more difficult 09:24:57 why am i even doing this, though? 09:25:13 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 09:43:08 hpp: the Europe/Paris timezone 09:43:22 (+0100 right now) 10:06:43 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 10:42:20 -!- MetaNova has left ("parted"). 10:54:12 -!- kragniz has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.5). 10:54:45 -!- kragniz has joined. 11:32:30 -!- boily has joined. 11:37:30 `wisdom 11:37:38 protocol//protocol is not to be confused with protocoal 11:43:33 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 12:13:34 Oh, I was asleep 12:19:54 -!- boily has quit (Quit: MEMBER CHICKEN). 12:20:29 I've seen similar spam in #dwarffortress before 12:39:35 How again can i leave a Message to someone not currently here? 12:40:38 * APic wants to write moony that Discord is proprietary, centralized, and probably records all Conversations on the Server. Also „We also added Virus Scanning, which will automatically scan uploaded executables and archives to mak 12:40:42 e sure they're safe. 12:40:43 “ 12:40:52 So: Everything goes through the servers and is indexed 12:41:24 So maybe Discord has a Voicechat You can use without paying Money, but it is absolutely not _free_. You are paying with Your Privacy. 12:42:23 sounds pretty cheap, then 12:47:58 Is it just me, or is Skype for win32 has an interface specifically designed such that it's hard to find the option to (just exit skype damnit)? 12:48:38 killall -9 skype 12:48:45 how hard can it be 12:48:48 I mean, a normal win32 windowed interface would have a menu entry for that in the leftmost pulldown menu, and skype has a pulldown menu, but there's no such command there. 12:49:03 izalove: I specifically said the win32 interface. this doesn't apply to the linux interface, that's different. 12:49:07 Taneb: sure, the allah spambot usually hits random public channels, it's been a long problem 12:49:13 (the two guis differ slightly) 12:49:19 b_jonas: thatsthejoke.gif 12:49:30 izalove: besides, it's more than one process, so it might not help 12:50:15 izalove: to kill firefox, you may have to killall firefox-bin or killall iceweasel depending on the version you have. 12:51:09 pkill firefox kills all processes named firefox 12:51:42 izalove: but these processes are named iceweasel or firefox-bin, not firefox 13:09:18 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 13:14:13 Jafet: Cheaper than Skype, yah 13:15:20 !tell moony Discord is proprietary, centralized, and probably records all Conversations on the Server. Also „We also added Virus Scanning, which will automatically scan uploaded executables and archives to make sure they're safe.“ So: Everything goes through the Servers and is indexed; so maybe Discord has a Voicechat You can use without paying Money, but it is absolutely not _free_. You are paying 13:15:26 with Your Privacy. 13:15:30 Was it „!tell“? Probably not. 13:15:52 @help tell 13:15:52 tell . When shows activity, tell them . 13:16:23 Thanks 13:16:24 hmm, low-99 high-66 quotes, very „German“ 13:17:10 @tell moony Discord is proprietary, centralized, and probably records all Conversations. Also „We also added Virus Scanning, which will automatically scan uploaded executables and archives to make sure they're safe.“ So: Everything goes through the Servers and is indexed; so maybe it has a Voicechat You can use without paying Money, but it is absolutely not _free_. You are paying with Your Privacy. 13:17:10 Consider it noted. 13:17:16 o/ 13:17:21 Thanks Gals/Guys. 13:39:55 -!- wanderman has joined. 13:50:33 In image editing software, what is the relation or difference between Corel Painter and Corel Photopaint? Are they the same product renamed? If not, why are there two of them by the same manufacturer? 13:51:19 hmm... this probably isn't the right channel for that 13:52:54 why is there a whole software suite from adobe? 13:54:08 myname: because not all of those are raster image editors. 13:54:33 myname: but I'm not asking about Corel Draw or Corel WordPerfect now 13:55:41 -!- otherbot has joined. 13:58:08 ah, it gets more complicated. Corel also has Paintshop Pro ... 14:22:33 -!- wanderman has quit (Quit: Leaving). 15:08:21 \oren\: do you happen to know if there's a specific character different from the middle dot "·" to encode a high dot, in older math text where a dot "." is used as a multiplication text and the high dot is used as a decimal point? 15:09:33 Or is that just a different style of the middle dot? 15:44:26 -!- TieSoul has joined. 15:57:02 -!- otherbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:57:23 -!- otherbot has joined. 16:01:17 -!- otherbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:01:24 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 16:01:38 -!- otherbot has joined. 16:01:43 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (*.net *.split). 16:01:44 -!- iczero has quit (*.net *.split). 16:01:45 -!- Bowserinator has quit (*.net *.split). 16:01:47 -!- \oren\ has quit (*.net *.split). 16:01:47 -!- prooftechnique has quit (*.net *.split). 16:01:55 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 16:01:58 -!- \oren\ has joined. 16:02:22 -!- prooftechnique has joined. 16:02:28 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:06:04 -!- iczero has joined. 16:08:19 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Changing host). 16:08:19 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 16:21:16 -!- sebbu has joined. 16:22:19 -!- iczero has changed nick to wlp1s1. 16:24:11 <\oren\> Bowserinator: I'm not sure there is one 16:24:26 ? 16:24:27 <\oren\> *b_jonas: I'm not sure there is one 16:24:32 oh 16:24:35 carry on 16:24:38 <\oren\> oh, I see, he isn't here 16:24:58 <\oren\> @tell b_jonas I'm not sure there is a high dot math character 16:24:58 Consider it noted. 16:26:05 <\oren\> `unicode ⸳ 16:26:10 U+2E33 RAISED DOT \ UTF-8: e2 b8 b3 UTF-16BE: 2e33 Decimal: ⸳ \ ⸳ \ Category: Po (Punctuation, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) 16:26:32 <\oren\> @tell b_jonas but maybe this one from general punctuation is it ⸳ 16:26:32 Consider it noted. 16:26:42 -!- otherbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:26:42 \oren\: I am here 16:26:59 -!- otherbot has joined. 16:27:33 <\oren\> b_jonas but irssi refuses to tab complete your name for some reason 16:27:41 -!- otherbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:28:02 -!- otherbot has joined. 16:30:03 <\oren\> I wonder whether it was a good idea to make bold fraktur instead render as uncial 16:32:56 <\oren\> oh, and I don't even have the full alphabet in that set yet... 16:33:42 <\oren\> 𝖆𝖙 𝖑𝖊𝖆𝖘𝖙 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖑𝖔𝖜𝖊𝖗𝖈𝖆𝖘𝖊 𝖚𝖓𝖈𝖎𝖆𝖑 𝖎𝖘 𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖕𝖑𝖊𝖙𝖊 16:33:52 \oren\: does any math stuff even use the distinction between letters in script font, caligraphic, fraktur, blackletter, etc? I thought people just have roman, italic, bold, sometimes bold italic, double-struck (blackboard bold), sans serif, and ONE fancy font that could be script or caligraphic or fraktur or anything. 16:34:22 So basically in math stuff, fraktur vs caligraphic vs script is a choice of preference, not different meanings. 16:34:24 <\oren\> yeah, I have'nt seen anyone use both fraktur and script, of the same letter 16:35:06 <\oren\> and I've never seen anyone distinguish bold and non bold frakture 16:35:22 And this is, of course, apart from using lower and uppercase, and latin and greek letters, and all sorts of math accents and indexes 16:35:52 Plus digits and various non-alphabetic letter-like characters. 16:38:42 -!- oerjan has joined. 16:41:17 @tell hppavilion[1] oh god, and just before i left i was pondering whether to ban chatter preemptively for quit/join spamming 16:41:17 Consider it noted. 16:43:24 @tell hppavilion[1] getting the impression they were just waiting for me to leave... 16:43:24 Consider it noted. 16:43:51 `ops 16:43:53 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ops: not found 16:46:25 @messages- 16:46:25 hppavilion[1] said 10h 9m 33s ago: At the moment, there seems to be a wannabe jihadi in the channel spamming with several hundred "