< 1479513609 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finally got around to making HBL's wiki page
< 1479513837 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@74-114-87-84.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1479514128 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hufvudstadsbladet? < 1479514135 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering why that did not have a page < 1479514201 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get Python's timezone stuff: http://sprunge.us/MXJi < 1479514203 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you merely want to attach a time zone object tz to a datetime dt without adjustment of date and time data, use dt.replace(tzinfo=tz)." That sounds exactly what I want, but when I try it, I get this weird "offset by -1 minute" timezone. < 1479514209 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes off to attempt to repopulate #irp
< 1479514320 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/UASa idgi tdnh < 1479514466 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, apparently it needs to be pytz.timezone('Europe/London').localize() instead. < 1479514517 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I probably knew this at some point. < 1479514561 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION idles in #irp all day...
< 1479515452 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wrote a program you can calculate a GURPS character's life expectancy, assuming that someone doesn't murder them, using a simulation, and using the inputs: strength, dexterity, intelligence, health, increase/short lifespan level, medical TL, longevity, self-destruction. < 1479515471 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1479515478 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1479515731 0 :int-e!~noone@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I couldn't find the Okapi interpreter either but see now https://github.com/catseye/Chrysoberyl/issues/7 < 1479515762 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I see that now too. < 1479515819 0 :int-e!~noone@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's worth a try :) ) < 1479515970 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1479515990 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :moonello < 1479516017 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1479516038 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1479516086 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1479516244 0 :computing!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Client Quit < 1479519041 0 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1479519489 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Kitanai14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50293&oldid=50288 5* 03Sygmei 5* (+29) 10/* Examples */ < 1479519858 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1479520275 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Kitanai14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50294&oldid=50293 5* 03Sygmei 5* (+20) 10/* Examples */ < 1479520828 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1479520850 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh hi < 1479520860 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That was me being online to inform someone where I was < 1479520867 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got home. < 1479521098 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cut elimination < 1479521101 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cut-elimination theorem states that any Prolog program written using the cut operator ! can be rewritten without using that operator. < 1479521128 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many possible subcommittees are there in a chamber of n distinct individuals? < 1479521241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that a subcommittee is a subset S of the total chamber C, where |C| > |S| ≥ 2, and that an individual can be a member of more than one subcommittee, but that subcommittees with identical membership are considered the same < 1479521344 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks 2 am is too late for his mind to do set theory...
< 1479521394 0 :Warrigal!?@? NICK :tswett < 1479521428 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think *probably* \Sum{n = 2}{n < |C|}{\binomco{|C|}{n}} < 1479521447 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something very similar, like |C|-2 in the top or -1 from the whole thing or something < 1479521532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, but what if we have the subcommittees have a special member p who is the chair? Then a subcommittee is (p, S) where S is the set of members, p is the chair, and p \in S... so the number of chaired subcommittees of size N is N times the number of chairless subcommittees of size N...) < 1479521639 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1479522322 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1479522352 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: without chairs, it's simply 2^|C| - |C| - 1 hth < 1479522450 0 :Sygmei!56fdb4c5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.253.180.197 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1479522457 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ty < 1479522480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should've been obvious but I am tired. < 1479522498 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1479522503 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :make that -2 < 1479522512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the empty set to exclude < 1479522537 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with chairs, hm... |C| * (2^|C-1| - 2) i think < 1479522603 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1479522738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1479522780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, |C-1|? < 1479522825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How does that- wait- OK, what? < 1479522896 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, |C|-1 < 1479522917 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(|C|-1) < 1479522951 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's |C-{p}|, really < 1479522971 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1479522992 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it? p has to be a member of the subcommittee... < 1479522993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1479523010 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've already chosen p, now you choose the rest... < 1479523019 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1479523029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our definitions are probably equivalent, tbh < 1479523051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should hope so < 1479523067 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is "just" combinatorics < 1479523119 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka one of the hardest subfields of math :P) < 1479523156 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :the subfield that counts the most < 1479523712 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1479524909 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1479524909 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1479526831 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1479526954 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes in JavaScript programming I use String.prototype.replace even when not needing to replace anything; the result will sometimes be discarded. < 1479527354 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you used C#? < 1479527558 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1479529846 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to restore the cursor properly? I have sending "\x1B[m\x1B[?6;7;66;67s\x1B[?42;66;69;1049h\x1B[?4;6;7;25;44;67l\x1B F\x1B[r\x1B%@\x1B(B\x1B)0" when the program starts (followed by stty), and then "\x1B[r\x0F\x1B[?25h\x1B[?69;1049l\x1B[?6;7;66;67r" (again followed by stty) when program is stopped. But, the cursor is now always moved to the top left corner instead of restored properly. < 1479529854 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you notice what I have done wrong? < 1479530037 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, a breakdown of those ansi codes would help :^) < 1479530052 0 :^v!v^@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for those who dont have a table lying around < 1479530500 0 :harvey!~h@APuteaux-551-1-113-165.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1479531222 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Alas. < 1479531222 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :Quit: Bai. < 1479531248 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ZZZZ < 1479531257 0 :harvey!~h@APuteaux-551-1-106-109.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1479531273 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1479531286 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any brainfuck implementation that understands that these are the same? +[>.+] +[>.<] < 1479531291 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1479531291 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1479531291 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1479531732 0 :harvey!~h@APuteaux-551-1-106-109.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1479531872 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1479531995 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1479532154 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1479532293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1479532344 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*DING* Dropped a crate of bells < 1479532434 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It appears no one else did < 1479532435 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1479532443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION *THWACK*'s Jafet
< 1479532454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION returns the thwacker
< 1479532466 0 :harvey!~h@APuteaux-551-1-110-9.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1479533047 0 :harvey!~h@APuteaux-551-1-110-9.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1479533925 0 :harvey!~h@APuteaux-551-1-84-196.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1479534310 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1479534327 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foooolks < 1479534351 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm creating a language called Tokiber and writing a Tokiber-to-C# compiler in C# and then gradually translating it to Tokiber! < 1479534439 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to write Tokiber in Tokiber is making me realize that Tokiber really sucks. < 1479534728 0 :harvey!~h@APuteaux-551-1-84-196.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1479535043 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optimising languages for ease of writing compilers has certainly taken us a good long way :) < 1479535135 0 :shikhin!shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Alas. < 1479535135 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz QUIT :Quit: Bai. < 1479535186 0 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1479535206 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1479535206 0 :hydraz!matheus@heddw.ch QUIT :Changing host < 1479535206 0 :hydraz!matheus@unaffiliated/demhydraz JOIN :#esoteric < 1479535429 0 :harvey!~h@APuteaux-551-1-123-19.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1479535521 0 :harvey!~h@APuteaux-551-1-123-19.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Client Quit < 1479535592 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett_: wo*w < 1479536530 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: http://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html < 1479536976 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp necessary < 1479536984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.doorstop:You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. \ issue:You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. \ keenlist:keenlist is notification for when Tom Hall finally acquires the necessary intellectual property rights to create the videogame series Commander Keen: The Universe is Toast \ necessity:If necessity d < 1479537006 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grwp necessary | sport < 1479537009 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:.doorstop:You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. \ issue:You do not have the clearance necessary to view this entry. \ keenlist:keenlist is notification for when Tom Hall finally acquires the necessary intellectual property rights to create the videogame series Commander Keen: The Universe is Toast \ necessi < 1479537017 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`spam < 1479537018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:ty:If necessity did not exist, it would be necessary for Taneb to invent it. \ Binary file reflection matches < 1479537694 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~V is the same as ^v, correct? < 1479537696 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ~ < 1479537697 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1479537701 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ^ < 1479537702 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^ (also notated by ⊕ or ⊻) is the exclusive-or operator; ∧ (also notated by /\ or &) is the and (conjunction) operator; ^ (also notated by ↑ or ** or ⋆) is the power operator. < 1479537875 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about ˆ? < 1479537943 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ̂? < 1479539471 0 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1479539765 0 :lezsakdomi!~led@84.3.84.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1479540291 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Funny ending to eO4pr-r3OCf < 1479540835 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1479540835 0 :ffj-bot!eldis4@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1479540835 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1479540844 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf zemora < 1479541323 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm pretty sure Turn 11 was what lost you that game < 1479541336 0 :Cale!~cale@CPE9c5c8eb8e0c8-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just getting the wall seems to go much better for you < 1479541479 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right, I'm not sure why I did that. < 1479541506 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe an irrational aversion to suboptimal absorb. But two drones is a high price to pay for that. < 1479541529 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Alex14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50295&oldid=50290 5* 03Slnetaiga 5* (+276) 10 < 1479541576 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was only half paying attention for some of that. < 1479541582 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the ending was frustratingly close. < 1479544119 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1479545515 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1479545524 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1479546148 0 :Gregor!dlopen@71.19.155.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1479546207 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Alex14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50296&oldid=50295 5* 03Slnetaiga 5* (+55) 10 < 1479548553 0 :ffj-bot!~jbot@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1479549879 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmtslssbqnptmasr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did ais523 finally get a programming language named after him? :> < 1479549942 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmtslssbqnptmasr PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like Ada and Haskell, you see. The highest honor for computer scientists) < 1479550325 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: I thought ais was "andrew"?? < 1479550386 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmtslssbqnptmasr PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, Alex Smith < 1479550400 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmtslssbqnptmasr PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but what does the i stand for?) < 1479550486 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: iͥ < 1479550510 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's an 'i' with a smaller 'i' in place of a tittle) < 1479550715 0 :hppavilion[1]!~doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP < 1479550795 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :this language doesn't seem particularly honourable < 1479550825 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, make a better one and name it smith < 1479552920 0 :Nithogg!~ethiraric@jrc16-h01-176-150-43-109.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1479559919 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: Haskell Curry had quite many things named after him < 1479559947 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A whole of three programming languages, one for his first name, one for the middle name, and one for the surname < 1479560150 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curry is a great language < 1479561715 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1479564046 0 :scoofy!~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1479564602 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1479565053 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kmrjzrahdiyshtbi QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1479565086 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1479565106 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1479565121 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cdop//CDOP is OCPD, except with the letters in the *proper* order. < 1479565256 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhlgkzasabjofgep JOIN :#esoteric < 1479566567 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1479567184 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome wanderman < 1479567188 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13wanderman: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.) < 1479567204 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1479567276 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1479568900 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode iͥ < 1479568902 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] [U+0365 COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER I] < 1479569171 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1479569190 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1479569257 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, Cale and shachaf were talking about Prismata. < 1479569264 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CRACKED YOUR CODE < 1479569293 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1479569299 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna play Prismata. < 1479569819 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes... I almost remember how to play this. < 1479569836 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My last time playing was a couple of weeks ago. < 1479569998 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswellott_. what's a prismata? < 1479570033 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's this game. http://prismata.net/ < 1479570047 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Billed as "the best parts of StarCraft and Hearthstone". < 1479570059 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm pretty sure it's also a game of perfect information. < 1479570320 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1479570393 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1479570427 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! < 1479570947 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-qpzbdeafqhgwjroy QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1479570984 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zxtictulaeupvvxk JOIN :#esoteric < 1479571061 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1479571151 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : quick, make a better one and name it smith <-- cpressey already did hth < 1479571180 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's somewhat unlikely to be named after ais523, being from 2000. < 1479571259 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have been defeated by Pacifist Bot." < 1479571260 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn. < 1479571281 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, however, pretty clearly a better language than Alex. < 1479571304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett_: did it negotiate you into submission < 1479571344 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1479571348 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. should I be concerned about that Alex thing? < 1479571374 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it. looks very brainfuck-inspired (except syntax) < 1479571490 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only positive value is if it finally causes ais523 to explode and go on a brainfuck derivative crusade. < 1479571493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1479571531 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1479571583 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the syntax is, of course, _more_ boring than brainfuck's) < 1479571662 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, with my last defeat, I just resigned. < 1479571669 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This time, Pacifist Bot actually defeated me. < 1479571676 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By, like, attacking. < 1479571689 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was supposed to, like, not do that. < 1479571695 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT SOUNDS LIKE CHEATING < 1479572669 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, I did it. I defeated Pacifist Bot on Bullet speed. < 1479572924 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1479573218 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1479573292 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've defeated Wacky Bot on Bullet as well. \o/ < 1479573480 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys, Bullet speed is really fast. < 1479574285 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1479574660 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1479574747 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs his weekly dose of diacritical soup
< 1479574753 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: COMPANY CHICKEN < 1479575546 0 :wander___!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman JOIN :#esoteric < 1479575621 0 :wanderman!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1479575744 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1479576527 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I failed to defeat Basic Bot on Bullet speed. It's almost like Bullet is really fast or something! < 1479576540 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, there's something I think I forgot to mention. < 1479576541 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bullet is fast. < 1479576590 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i'm getting you, are you saying that bullet speed is fast twh < 1479576980 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1479577117 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm actually saying that Bullet speed is extremely slow. < 1479577129 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each turn lasts billions and billions of nanoseconds. < 1479577136 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray, nuclear powered turbojet < 1479577153 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can flyyyyy forevaaaaaaa < 1479577204 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also failed at Blitz and then Rapid, so let's try Quick. < 1479577726 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Glacial hth < 1479577769 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glacial is brutal, you only get 1,209,600 seconds per turn. < 1479577776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1479577859 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1479578284 0 :iczero!?@? NICK :wlp1s1 < 1479578315 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1479578332 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais, hi! I wanted to say two things yesterday but couldn't catch you < 1479578370 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why _do_ people abbreviate nicks, haven't they heard of highlighting?) < 1479578386 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1479578399 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he just came in, he's obviously listening < 1479578401 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to ping him < 1479578416 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: occasionally it's specifically to avoid highlighting someone unless they're paying attention to the channel < 1479578416 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. "if you're around and paying attention I want to talk to you, otherwise I don't care) < 1479578416 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1479578416 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1479578418 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1479578419 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1479578466 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woohoo, I managed to beat Basic Bot on Normal. < 1479578540 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsewtt_: how basic is this basic bot? < 1479578580 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:1c1:3c89:fdd4:4030 JOIN :#esoteric < 1479578585 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd estimate the pH of this bot at about 9. < 1479578609 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I can fix this mispunctuation by adding on more characters < 1479578609 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=~s/\)$// < 1479578622 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:1c1:3c89:fdd4:4030 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a basic estimation < 1479578657 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a stupid challenge that's probably trivially impossible. < 1479578681 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write a sequence of /// commands that just removes all slashes and backslashes from everything that follows. < 1479578688 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:1c1:3c89:fdd4:4030 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"approximately equal to substituting nothing to an escaped closing parenthesis and a line beginning" < 1479578705 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ is definitely a line ending. < 1479578711 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:1c1:3c89:fdd4:4030 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apologies < 1479578772 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like you can't do the /// thing. You have to either remove the slashes first, and then you won't be able to remove the backslashes; or you have to remove the backslashes first and then you can't remove the slashes. < 1479578783 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett_: that does seem tricky. < 1479578797 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not confident that there's no way to overcome this. < 1479578834 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett_: it's fairly easy if you have a spare character to use < 1479578838 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's make it a little easier, and say that you can assume that the following stuff consists only of slashes, backslashes, and uppercase letters. < 1479578846 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just gave us a lot of spare characters. < 1479578848 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you do it? < 1479578857 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, maybe not < 1479578882 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, it's easy to see that once you do /\///, you can't do any more substitutions. < 1479578889 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if we use that command, it has to be the last command. < 1479578918 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And once you do /\\//, you can never do any substitutions involving either slash. < 1479579028 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, looking at it from a strictly "how useful is this program" point of view, you only need to remove all backslashes with a run length > 2 then all slashes, and the remaining backslashes will just disappear as the rest of the program prints itself < 1479579064 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, and that's really easy. < 1479579075 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/\\\\///\/// < 1479579125 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the last command has to be someting like /\\\/// < 1479579131 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's possible at all < 1479579138 0 :wander___!~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman QUIT :Quit: byebye < 1479579139 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to see how you'd get into a position for that to work < 1479579387 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1479579594 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1479579944 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I want to get to the point where I have a pretty good strategy against Basic Bot. < 1479579959 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The set I'm using is... < 1479579973 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatjs this bot thing about? < 1479580025 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iso Kronus 5G; Shredder 5B; Lancetooth 6BAA; Drake 12BB; Apollo 13BBB; Cynestra 12GGGR; Hellhound 5BR; Centurion 18GGBBR. < 1479580028 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...where A is attack. < 1479580041 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Prismata. http://prismata.net/ < 1479580048 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Quit: Viivan loppu. < 1479580053 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a whole lot of blue units. < 1479580087 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can win using one blue as my only tech. < 1479580113 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Against Pacifist bot? < 1479580141 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@fr1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1479580230 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like another awesome game that i may not be able to play < 1479580288 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nah, Basic. < 1479580292 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is no, I can't do that. < 1479580335 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one blue" meaning that you build one Blastforge and then can use the blue every turn? < 1479580345 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1479580365 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should almost certainly be building drones at the beginning. < 1479580371 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if you're going blue? < 1479580387 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're going to be in the wabe if you don't. < 1479580391 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Economically speaking. < 1479580425 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the area of grass surrounding a sundial"? < 1479580489 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just meant "way behind" in this usage. < 1479580502 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "wabe" also means "way before". < 1479580555 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one thing i am interested in are the supported plattforms and i fail to find that information < 1479580583 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The supported platform is Adobe Macromedia Shockwave Flash. < 1479580594 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly? < 1479580598 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :srsly < 1479580673 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can download a Windows client, but it uses Adobe Air. < 1479580675 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever that is. < 1479580687 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is interesting < 1479580704 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory, adobe air allows porting to android < 1479580710 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor tswett_'s Blastforge is gone now. < 1479580721 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You watchin' me? < 1479580730 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'd better continue playing. < 1479580750 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your strategy isn't very successful. < 1479580761 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is true. < 1479580846 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, going with one Blastforge only, and then buying only Shredders, doesn't work out too hot. < 1479580876 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try that again, then. This time, my tech shall consist of two Blastforges. < 1479580896 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't seem like an effective strategy. < 1479580931 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow you're playing with the same set. < 1479580987 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is correct. < 1479581013 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with more drones your life is easier. < 1479581017 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So with Drake, clicking and consuming a Blastforge gives you two attack. < 1479581022 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a permanent buff to Drake? < 1479581060 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just the current turn. < 1479581110 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm essentially 5, or maybe it's 5B, to get AA. < 1479581135 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't cost blue. < 1479581144 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you have an extra blastforge you don't need, it's free. < 1479581161 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if you don't, it threatens two every turn, whether you use it or not. < 1479581177 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if your opponent doesn't want to be breached they'll have to build extra defense. < 1479581233 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1479581311 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This pure-shredder strategy seems dubious. < 1479581448 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, it sure does. < 1479581635 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well this is kinda funny. < 1479581639 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see, am I gonna win? < 1479581650 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1479581664 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a program it will send "\x1B[m\x1B[?6;7;66;67s\x1B[?42;66;69;1049h\x1B[?4;6;7;25;44;67l\x1B F\x1B[r\x1B%@\x1B(B\x1B)0" when it start and will send "\x1B[m\x1B[?42;66;69h\x1B[?4;6;7;25;44l\x1B%@\x1B(B\x1B)0\x1B[r\x1B[2J\x1B[H" when it stop but it failed to restore the cursor properly. Do you know what is wrong please? < 1479581689 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is yes, I am gonna win. < 1479581697 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll just take a minute. < 1479581708 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wait. < 1479581733 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1479581736 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a draw < 1479581786 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think some terminals just don't support saving and restoring the cursor, or not with the same sequence. what terminal are you using? < 1479581797 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using xterm < 1479581802 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you can ask for help from ais to debug that stuff < 1479581827 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the game automatically declare a draw after a while? < 1479581913 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it hasn't done so by turn 103, I figure it's probably not going to. < 1479582030 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually the code I used at the end is "\x1B[r\x0F\x1B[?25h\x1B[?69;1049l\x1B[?6;7;66;67r" I have instead copied from some other file by mistake < 1479582087 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna go eat food. < 1479582097 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there used to be a "proffer draw" button but it might be gone. < 1479582246 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should probably add "\x1B7" before the "\x1B[?42;66;69;1049h" command, and "\x1B8" after the "\x1B[?69;1049l" command < 1479582352 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why do you turn on ?42 while starting, and not restore it whie ending? it's unlikely that you'd want to change that option at all in my experience < 1479582360 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that won't affect your cursor problem though) < 1479582642 0 :tswett_!~chatzilla@99-39-107-117.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1479582886 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:1c1:3c89:fdd4:4030 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1479582984 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, I will do that < 1479583049 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That didn't fix it. Vim properly saves and restores the cursor, so why doesn't this program work? < 1479583081 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to debug this because you're sending so many codes, it's easy to miss the one that's causing the problem < 1479583108 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, how does the language you're using parse "\x1B7"? that needs to be an ESC and a 7, not a single U+01B7 character < 1479583125 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, where does the cursor end up? that might be a clue < 1479583147 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cursor moved to the top of the screen < 1479583181 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language is JavaScript and it does parse "\x1B7" as ESC and then 7; I have tested that < 1479583250 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the code you're sending at the end is "\x1B[r\x0F\x1B[?25h\x1B[?69;1049l\x1B[?6;7;66;67r", right? < 1479583348 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although I have now added 42 to the restore list and \x1B8 < 1479583359 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily almost all languages parse \x like C does, taking only up to two hexits < 1479583428 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that parses as "default scrolling region, select standard character set, set private mode 25 (which is 'show cursor'), disable private modes 69 and 1049 (which are 'left and right margins' and 'alternate screen buffer with cursor saving'), reset private modes 6, 7, 66, 67 (which are 'origin mode', 'wraparound mode', 'application keypad', 'backarrow sends backspace')" < 1479583468 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: actually, try moving the "\x1B[?6;7;66;67r" command to before the "\x1B[?69;1049l" command; I'm not 100% sure what modes 6 and 7 do but they look cursor-related < 1479583473 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's possible that resetting htem could move the cursor < 1479583473 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: huh, have you efd it to your terminal control sequence debugger in pretty-print mode? < 1479583480 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I will try < 1479583484 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: no, I'm reading the docs < 1479583496 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a terminal control sequence debugger < 1479583503 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a ton of different documentation on terminal codes though < 1479583507 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That worked < 1479583510 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1479583536 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know why I did not think of that) < 1479583547 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ESC 7 and ESC 8 aren't needed in a terminal that understands private mode 1049, but a) many terminals don't, b) xterm does but it can be configured not to < 1479583553 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Reboot < 1479583572 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure why you'd configure it not to, but apparently this is a common enough request that it's requested repeatedly in the documentation; perhaps some programs use it inappropriately) < 1479583795 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes. in particular urxvt's docs patched with http://lists.schmorp.de/pipermail/rxvt-unicode/attachments/20130406/6745aceb/attachment-0003.patch (see http://lists.schmorp.de/pipermail/rxvt-unicode/2013q2/001780.html for context) documents a ton of escape sequences, although it doesn't document which terminals support which. < 1479583800 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the detailed behaviour < 1479583843 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays I prefer to go by ecma-48, which isn't a terminal standard at all < 1479583872 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the best way to think about it is this: imagine if HTML was originally designed back in the days before monitors were invented < 1479583889 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people used it to write documents that would print out nicely on their printers < 1479583909 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then someone decided to invent the monitor, and decided that they'd implement a subset of HTML in order to encode various formatting < 1479583914 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everything applies but much of it does < 1479583922 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically the relationship between ecma-48 and terminal codes < 1479583954 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, if you're adding a new feature to an HTML-based terminal, you'd try to take the corresponding HTML tag, right? so logically, new terminal features should be based on ecma-48 < 1479583958 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and in practice, many of them are) < 1479583983 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"then someone decided to invent the monitor" < 1479583996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Ender scythe 5* 10New user account < 1479584054 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"now, if you're adding a new feature to an HTML-based terminal, you'd try to take the corresponding HTML tag, right?" => or an HTML attribute, but sure, doesn't change the argument < 1479584102 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, I was generalizing < 1479584120 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, being imprecise as it was only an example < 1479584254 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1479585170 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a document it describes a few more kinds of time controls for chess and other games. One way is to have a main clock and a reserve clock. While your main clock is nonzero it counts down, and each turn you get an increment to add to your reserve clock. When your main clock is zero, then your reserve clock is used with no increments. < 1479585419 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another kind is to have a swing clock and reserve clock, each with initial nonzero values. Your swing clock is used while nonzero, and your opponent's swing clock increases during this time; if your swing clock is zero, your reserve clock is used and your opponent's clock doesn't increase. Your swing clock will be re-enabled once it is nonzero again. < 1479585540 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: those two modes of timing are strang4e < 1479585573 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: the word you are looking for is zooic < 1479585580 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*zzoic < 1479585610 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not really < 1479585654 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1479585656 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I also thought of another variant which I have not seen in other documents, which is where the hourglass factor is not necessarily 0 or 1, but can be any number (although it should probably range from -0.5 to +1.0) < 1479585914 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1479585986 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-44-58.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen other variants too and have also thought of various other variants of time controls. < 1479586041 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1479587150 0 :lezsakdomi!~led@84.3.84.190 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1479587523 0 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1479588954 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1479589206 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1479589531 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1479589533 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :auto//Auto is the German word for car. < 1479589607 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1479589637 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1479589682 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's an automorphism? < 1479589686 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowt auto < 1479589686 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it kinda is < 1479589688 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7110:2016-03-06 learn Auto is the German word for car. < 1479589717 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :automobil is almost always abbreviated auto in german < 1479589742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` howg | grep 'rm -r' < 1479589745 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` rm -r wisdom/is \ ` rm -r wisdom/d \ rm -rf wisdom/e < 1479589759 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hoag | grep 'rm -r' < 1479589762 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ` rm -rf canary; mk \'canary//cat: canary: No such file or directory\' \ ` rm -rfv powershell* \ ` rm -r s/ \ ` rm -r bin/SAVEDAT \ ` rm -r bin/bin \ ` rm -rf bin/lmg \ ` rm -rf lmg \ rm -r perl* # if at first you don\'t succeed... \ < 1479589779 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dafuq is happening < 1479589797 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1479589813 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that < 1479589883 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`1 hoat | grep 'rm -r' < 1479589886 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/5: run rm -r maketext \ paste ' rm -rf /; ' \ run rm -rf p7zip_9.20.1 \ rm -r run \ rm -r gktemp \ rm -r luabuild \ rm -r canary; echo chirp >canary # restore it back \ rm -r git-master \ rm -r a/d \