< 1476662458 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar PAMR < 1476662458 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAMR 162253Z 10SM CLR 04/M12 A2905 RMK AO2 SLP839 T00441122 $ < 1476662482 0 :moonheart08!?@? NICK :jacob2 < 1476662483 0 :jacob2!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1476662500 0 :carado!~carado@bea44-1-78-193-226-57.fbxo.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1476662508 0 :jacob2!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1476662509 0 :jacob2!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1476662534 0 :Guest36503!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1476662534 0 :Guest36503!?@? NICK :moony < 1476662741 0 :Tanebot!~Tanebot@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1476662752 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebot: df iiisso < 1476662752 0 :Tanebot!~Tanebot@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :81; < 1476662784 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a bot now, for the first time in a long time < 1476662794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quiz: What temperature is twice as hot as 300 Fahrenheit? < 1476662810 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :301 Fahrenheit < 1476662843 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: your cheeky answer has been logged hth < 1476662844 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wat? why? < 1476662861 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], Farhenheit measures log_2 heat < 1476662869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't remember that ever being a thing < 1476662889 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is the fact that I didn't say 'degrees' significant or something? < 1476662902 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], no, I'm talking out my arse < 1476662909 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, good < 1476662920 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Because the answer is 1059.67 Fahrenheit. hth. < 1476662930 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new tanebvention? < 1476662931 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1], explain why < 1476662939 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, nah, just something I made < 1476662961 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You have to first convert to Rankine (the Fahrenheit equivalent of Celsius's Kelvin) for it to make sense < 1476662969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolute 0 is a lie < 1476662973 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :temperatures go down forever < 1476662977 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta pick where to put the 0 < 1476662989 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how so? < 1476662998 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :see Taneb's comment above hth < 1476663017 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you convert to Rankine (add 459.67 degrees), THEN multiply by the factor, then convert back by subtracting 459.67 < 1476663042 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb didn't say anything about absolute zero? < 1476663054 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can Taneb reach absolute zero? < 1476663055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: But if it's log_2 it goes down forever < 1476663068 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get arbitrarily close to absolute 0 without ever reaching it < 1476663079 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which, truth be told, makes a little sense physically speaking) < 1476663080 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the value of this unit, yeah < 1476663083 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :on linux is there any way to force syncing for any write of a certain process? < 1476663085 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Otherwise you're incorporating the arbitrary basis for 0 Fahrenheit implicitly) < 1476663099 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does not say anything about not having an absolut zero < 1476663147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: But log2 < 1476663182 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logarithms have a limit at 0 iirc (assuming you don't shift the argument) < 1476663241 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, there's a 180 degree separation between freezing and boiling for water in fahrenheit, so saying 'degrees' makes some sense... if we shift fahrenheit down by 32 degrees (Farenheight), then saying the temperature is pi radians farenheight makes perfect sense- it's just boiling) < 1476663332 0 :moony!?@? NICK :therealjeffl35 < 1476663338 0 :therealjeffl35!?@? NICK :moony < 1476663441 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: a unit not being able tp express a value does not make it nonexistant < 1476663467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Ah, yes < 1476663472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point < 1476663497 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebot: quit < 1476663497 0 :Tanebot!~Tanebot@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Quit: Tanebot AWAY! < 1476663503 0 :moony!?@? NICK :therealjeffl35 < 1476663527 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To express time and distance in the same unit, they simply need to be related by speed-of-light... easy...) < 1476663530 0 :therealjeffl35!?@? NICK :moony < 1476663660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Quit: watching Guardians of the Galaxy < 1476663960 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, you can now use chess clocks in a pokemon battle. < 1476664461 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hppavilion[1], no, I'm talking out my arse <-- you can argue that entropy is a logarithmic scale, and iirc temperature is its integral over energy. don't know if you can get quite to temperature being logarithmic, though. < 1476664515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the integral of a logarithm is not a logarithm hth < 1476664613 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i've got that backwards. < 1476664743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the derivative of entropy is the derivative of energy divided by temperature. unless i remember that too wrong. < 1476664770 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* (the derivative of energy) divided by temperature < 1476664807 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for entropy given by adding heat, anyway. < 1476664941 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn third law of thermodynamics/The third law of thermodynamics says that Taneb cannot reach absolute zero. < 1476664945 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «third law of thermodynamics» < 1476665001 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just clearing that up. < 1476665051 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the third law of thermodynamic < 1476665051 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the third law of thermodynamic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476665084 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, it goes the other way. < 1476665146 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I am being stouted. it is made of good. < 1476665197 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: er, wait < 1476665202 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fortunately i completely messed that up < 1476665216 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking about the derivative of logarithm anyway < 1476665217 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1476665222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't listen to anything i saw < 1476665223 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :say < 1476665245 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sanity < 1476665246 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sanity? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476665257 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well said. < 1476665280 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1476665281 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wisdom entry was censored for being too accurate. < 1476665362 0 :moony!?@? NICK :erecsaysstop < 1476665365 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-10-223-145.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1476665369 0 :erecsaysstop!?@? NICK :moony < 1476665372 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: I am sane. < 1476665413 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How do you feel about this? < 1476665480 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Sanity is the defining property of boily. Taneb invented it. < 1476665482 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'sanity': Sanity is the defining property of boily. Taneb invented it. < 1476665522 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1476665523 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, weetoflakes, persistence, the BBC, progress, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1476665540 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd tanebvention//s/progress/progress, sanity/ < 1476665542 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, special relativity, metar, weetoflakes, persistence, the BBC, progress, sanity, the Oxford comma, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1476665617 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :progress and sanity go well together, i think. < 1476665790 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: I feel misaligned with topical reality, really. < 1476665847 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :There is currently an esolang contest: http://calesyta.xyz/en/ | Warning: this channel may contain traces of sanity | The international hub of esoteric pizza discussion and development | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1476665853 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: better now? < 1476665887 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :D < 1476665912 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I feel comfortable with there being traces of sanity here < 1476665927 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: We may need to correct this < 1476665932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :There is currently an esolang contest: http://calesyta.xyz/en/ | Warning: This channel may contain traces of sanity | The international hub of esoteric pizza discussion and development | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1476665943 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it needed capitalization < 1476666003 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: it's ok they're mostly around the mapole and you wouldn't want to go too close to that anyway. < 1476666021 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a Notable Capitalist, I approve. < 1476666033 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mapole < 1476666034 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1476666060 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? thwackamacallit < 1476666061 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thwackamacallit is like a whatchamacallit, but more painful. See mapole. < 1476666076 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent. I feel my sanity decreasing already < 1476666085 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks for the advice < 1476666091 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1476666095 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spork < 1476666098 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spork? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476666115 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a good definition, for something that doesn't exist < 1476666119 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? corkscrew < 1476666120 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :corkscrew? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476666123 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? moose whistle < 1476666123 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moose whistle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476666155 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Taneb invent the mapole? < 1476666167 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, given that he also invented sanity, that probably wouldn't surprise me < 1476666175 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that's where the sanity is < 1476666179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A corkscrew is a downwards spiral of doom. < 1476666182 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'corkscrew': A corkscrew is a downwards spiral of doom. < 1476666213 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: please don't confuse the mapole with sanity tdnh < 1476666222 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A spork is something to be randomly held of in front of penguins. < 1476666224 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'spork': A spork is something to be randomly held of in front of penguins. < 1476666238 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"of in"? < 1476666243 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1476666254 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why should sporks be held in front of penguins randomly? < 1476666256 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdnh < 1476666256 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdnh does not help < 1476666271 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sed -i 's/of in/in/' wisdom/spork < 1476666274 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1476666279 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `? tdnh is surprisingly helpful. < 1476666297 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: a reference to a copypasta. < 1476666322 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A corkscrew is a downwards spiral of doom. See mapole. < 1476666324 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'corkscrew': A corkscrew is a downwards spiral of doom. See mapole. < 1476666336 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah, penguin of doom? < 1476666347 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: the one and only. < 1476666358 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a markov bot in an irc channel named that < 1476666366 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't know it was a copypasta before then < 1476666430 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( damn, that beer is strong... oh, 12.5%. je peux bien mélanger mes prépositions... ) < 1476666440 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for pasta you really want a real fork, sporks won't do. < 1476666448 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially spaghetti. < 1476666455 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get a spork. < 1476666461 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be useful < 1476666501 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there such a thing as tactical chopsticks? < 1476666540 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there isn't, I think there ought to be < 1476666550 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used chopsticks tactically before < 1476666555 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ybden < 1476666556 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476666689 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn ybden/Nothing much is known about them, except a potential interest in warfare cutlery. < 1476666691 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «ybden» < 1476666759 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden and molum < 1476666784 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1476666815 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd ybden//s/them/ybden/ < 1476666817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ybden//Nothing much is known about ybden, except a potential interest in warfare cutlery. < 1476666833 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* < 1476666845 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do wisdoms have to contain their subject? < 1476666862 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better style, and easier when they get PDFed. < 1476666863 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's essential to the joke that they don't. < 1476666885 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah < 1476666892 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :How frequent does the conversion to PDF occur? < 1476666896 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :frequently* < 1476666904 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Makes sense < 1476666910 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such a wisdom? < 1476666936 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? internationale < 1476666937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have been reported to the House Un-American Activities Committee. < 1476666940 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's one. < 1476666957 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. < 1476666970 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn < 1476666971 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`learn creates a wisdom entry and tries to guess which word is the key. Syntax (case insensitive): `learn [a|an|the] [s][punctuation] [...] < 1476666982 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: do you have a github account? < 1476667004 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I do. With varying degrees of quality of code within. < 1476667004 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pdfification happens, what... once in a while, give or take a few months here and there... < 1476667015 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: the same goes for proper capitalization and punctuation btw. < 1476667025 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: what is it? < 1476667041 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I give you one guess. < 1476667047 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1476667052 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-list < 1476667052 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot PRIVMSG #esoteric :moony: Command groups (use list ): general capitalism chanop fun main sandbox tpt track < 1476667068 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :-capitalism < 1476667071 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; find -type f | cut -c 3- | while read f; do grep "$f" "$f" &> /dev/null && echo "$f"; done < 1476667079 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant || < 1476667100 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; find -type f | head -n 30 | cut -c 3- | while read f; do grep "$f" "$f" &> /dev/null || echo "$f"; done < 1476667102 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1476667102 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 random numbers \ ¯(°_o)/¯ \ umlaut \ quote \ damnation \ heck \ nooga \ irc \ post-industrial semi-punk nekronoise ambient happy hardcore triphop shoegaze \ cyberiad \ rincewind \ itymology \ coruscant \ french \ drone \ elendil \ scotland \ ethanol \ monoidal category < 1476667114 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: might want to be case insensitive < 1476667124 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; find -type f | cut -c 3- | while read f; do grep -i "$f" "$f" &> /dev/null || echo "$f"; done | wc -l < 1476667127 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I also have a GitLab account by the same name, but they're mostly both the same < 1476667143 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: you have been invited. you shall become a cocoonspirator. < 1476667148 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd wisdom; find -type f | wc -l < 1476667150 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1279 < 1476667155 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1476667159 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1476667162 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cocoonspirator < 1476667163 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cocoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in caterpillar silk < 1476667168 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1476667182 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oho, this is a private collaboration < 1476667211 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wraps ybden in caterpillar silk < 1476667241 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is done. < 1476667276 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wraps FireFly in polonium foil < 1476667289 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wraps moony in cowhide < 1476667314 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :why polonium though < 1476667319 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question < 1476667325 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that radioactive? < 1476667377 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oho. I recall correctly. < 1476667389 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :More importantly, where on Earth did you obtain said foil from? < 1476667408 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Earth < 1476667408 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476667457 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only is it radioactive, put iirc it's highly poisonous and was used to kill that russian in england putin didn't like < 1476667503 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the obvious answer is: russia. < 1476667648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :нэп < 1476667825 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn molum is the inverse function of ybden. < 1476667827 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'molum': molum is the inverse function of ybden. < 1476667840 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that worked < 1476667855 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :From my limited experience of wisdom and learning. < 1476667894 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1476667917 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1476667933 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a lot of experience, we have learned to make most of the wisdom commands say exactly what result they create. < 1476667954 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1476667954 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems reasonable < 1476668013 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually `le/rn and `le//rn don't quite, and although it's usually obvious, there's a small trap if you confuse them. < 1476668031 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat le/rn < 1476668031 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb «$key»" < 1476668048 0 :moony!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1476668052 0 :moonheart08!?@? NICK :moony < 1476668106 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l le/rn < 1476668107 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 17 Dec 9 2015 le/rn -> ../bin/slashlearn < 1476668198 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i should just bite the bullet and make it the same format. < 1476668214 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/learn < 1476668215 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed 's/^\(an\?\|the\) //;s/s\?[:;,.!?]\? .*//') \ [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned" \ echo "$1" >"$(echo-p "wisdom/$topic")" \ echo "$verb '$topic': $1" < 1476668287 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled bin/slashlearn//s/«.*/'$key': $value"/ < 1476668290 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/slashlearn//sep="/"; [[ "$0" == *//* ]] && sep="//"; [[ "$1" == ?*"$sep"* ]] || exit 1; key="$(echo "${1%%$sep*}" | lowercase)"; value="${1#*$sep}"; [ -e "wisdom/$key" ] && verb="Relearned" || verb="Learned"; echo "$value" > "$(echo-p "wisdom/$key")" && echo "$verb '$key': $value" < 1476668327 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn testing//Now it should be quite obvious. < 1476668329 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'testing': /Now it should be quite obvious. < 1476668340 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1476668353 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. < 1476668357 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? testing < 1476668358 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testing can do so much. < 1476668363 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :699d79867461b209fc5e5d7f9dd9dd1a prediction1 < 1476668367 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? test < 1476668368 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1476668378 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits testing < 1476668380 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän oerjän fizzïe evilips̈e shachäf shachäf oerjän oerjän oerjän oerjän oerjän oerjän oerjän oerjän oerjän oerjän < 1476668402 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly realises why the umlauts are there < 1476668408 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making a prediction using a hash. On november 9th I'll reveal the original text < 1476668432 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: they used to be ^O's but that didn't work for everyone. < 1476668444 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1476668455 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of IRC client would notice highlights like that is beyond me < 1476668459 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexchat strips formatting before checking pings < 1476668505 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1476668628 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's all play a game! write your predictions for november 8th into a file, and post the md5sum of that file! on november 8th, we'll post the original files to see hwo made a good prediction! < 1476668644 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: FLAT CHICKEN < 1476668647 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, november 9th < 1476668663 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION contemplates why the chicken might be flat < 1476668737 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i predict that after november 9, this channel's sanity will increase a significant amount. < 1476668787 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You're supposed to not tell us < 1476668789 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1476668796 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: i guess boily stepped on it. it's inevitable, with all the chickens he keeps around. < 1476668813 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: i predict that i don't care :P < 1476668817 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1476668817 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, you write it into a secret file and then post the hash < 1476668828 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1476668844 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way you can prove you predicted it beforehand < 1476668856 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about irc logs < 1476668861 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand perfectly, and still don't care :P < 1476668867 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you think election season is affecting sanity? < 1476668885 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since, if we're relying on irc logs for the hashes, then just putting the predictions in the channel will probably be as good < 1476668886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: absolutely. < 1476668908 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont feel insane < 1476668908 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good point < 1476668937 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :November 9, 2016 will be marked by violent protests across the united states. < 1476668937 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote this on October 16. < 1476668947 0 :moony!?@? NICK :[moony] < 1476668950 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my prediction < 1476668953 0 :[moony]!?@? NICK :`moony` < 1476669020 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I predict that this will happen regardless of the election's result < 1476669049 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i predict i will get drunk during that week < 1476669476 0 :`moony`!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1476670477 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? logic < 1476670478 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logic is just another tool that the true scotsMan uses to keep you down. < 1476670776 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Logic is just another way the true Scotsman is keeping you down. < 1476670779 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'logic': Logic is just another way the true Scotsman is keeping you down. < 1476670808 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that enough taste for your taste? < 1476670832 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my taste isn't the one in question here hth < 1476670852 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't make me `revert it < 1476671662 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd marriage//s/6$/6./ < 1476671663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/marriage//Marriage was made legal in the United States on 2015-06-26. < 1476672020 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: s/6//g on you slwd hth < 1476672038 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your < 1476672056 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-171-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1476672264 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i was preemptively doing that in case someone else had already fixed it < 1476672290 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1476672301 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :clwvwr < 1476674310 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What thing of Nov.8 is it necessary to predict? < 1476674450 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1476674699 0 :Cale!~cale@24.114.48.231 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1476675446 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this Magic: the Gathering card is OK: Scry 1. Fateseal 10. Scry 10. Draw a card. Look at top thirteen cards of opponent's library; put ten of them into opponent's hand and the rest into opponent's graveyard. < 1476675615 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can be used only during your own end step or cleanup step. < 1476676495 0 :trn!jhj@trnsz.com QUIT :K-Lined < 1476676647 0 :Cale!~cale@24.114.70.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476676968 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476677153 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :There is currently an esolang contest: http://calesyta.xyz/en/ | Warning: This channel may contain Planck-scale traces of sanity | The international hub of esoteric pizza discussion and development | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1476677275 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@36.81.161.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476678334 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sanity < 1476678336 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sanity is the defining property of boily. Taneb invented it. < 1476678375 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: now it only remains to see whether the planck unit for sanity is tiny or enormous < 1476678384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Correct < 1476678534 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it says it "may contain", so, you wouldn't know anyways. Especially if you have an imaginary number of sanity. < 1476679066 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one go about developing an esoteric pizza? < 1476679081 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the presidential election of the USA will be held on november eighth. I'm making predictions about it < 1476679102 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: well first you take a brainfuck pizza recipe... < 1476679108 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1476679109 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs away < 1476679128 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chases after oerjan, enraged < 1476679144 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grabs her chopsticks < 1476679155 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides behind one of the moles on his lawn < 1476679155 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a bacon, chicken and italian sausge pizza the other day < 1476679176 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should need to injure the candidates so that they will not recover in time until a month later, or whatever number of months necessary that they can't be president < 1476679204 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't killing them be simpler? < 1476679221 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you're able to significantly injure them, then killing would only be a step further < 1476679239 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot keep track of all the females in the channel any longer :( < 1476679248 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahahaha. < 1476679306 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1476679307 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious 4weevil bulgarian quack octoberlord oerjan is a lazy expert in suture computation. Also a Pre-recombination Glaswegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl and passion fruit. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1476679312 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-171-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're taking over, or something. Oh dear, what a disaster. < 1476679329 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you kill them then they still can't do stuff other than being president. Also you can be in jail and some technicalities will nevertheless not stop the problems it causes, but if is just injury it might not cause that problem? I don't even know the law of United States anyways < 1476679348 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1476679348 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world boring. < 1476679352 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if you kill them before becoming president, then they can't get elected < 1476679377 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? f-word < 1476679378 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f-word? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476679380 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess boily is male. for now. < 1476679399 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh there are still many thousands of characters not in my font < 1476679416 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such are the troubles of a font-developer < 1476679450 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many characters do you want to add into your font in total? < 1476679489 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I have 20 thousand, or 9 thousand if you don't count the hangul, and I plan on adding at least another 2000 < 1476679502 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Which format is it in? BDF? < 1476679506 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttf < 1476679510 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :< < 1476679517 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's generated from a bdf < 1476679528 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess both? < 1476679570 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant which format it was written in < 1476679591 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? female < 1476679592 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :female? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476679628 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm < 1476679654 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to download the bdf? < 1476679704 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/neoletters-16.bdf < 1476679732 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should to add it the link there too < 1476679765 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :done. < 1476679818 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1476679851 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should rewrite my bdf parser in c < 1476679858 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I say 'parser' < 1476679884 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I really mean is something which converted a bdf file into a c array for convenient usage < 1476679913 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oho. < 1476679940 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're creating the font in fontforge, not writing the bdf by hand? < 1476680009 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. the first housand or so characters were made on a font making web program, however < 1476680038 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/630397/neoletters < 1476680051 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that version is now far far out of date < 1476680082 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooo < 1476680086 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used fontstruct in the past < 1476680151 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how do you do the red stuff, in a bdf? < 1476680225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas how about sweet corn (maize) on pizza? <-- hm my usual restaurant has a pizza with chicken, pesto and maize. it's quite interesting... < 1476680225 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1476680230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1476680237 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's red on the web page, not in the actual font < 1476680304 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway you just name it like uniNNNN and, there's nothing reall special that you do < 1476680324 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: how does that work? < 1476680344 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I thought that you'd got part of the font coloured, and some of it not < 1476680359 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the web page just uses css to make it red < 1476680376 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1476680393 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pre > span.m91, :not(span) > span.m91 {color:red;} < 1476680406 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all you do < 1476680454 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :𝔆𝔋𝔌𝔕𝔝𝔺𝔿𝕅𝕇𝕈𝕉𝕑𝒝𝒠𝒡𝒣𝒤𝒧𝒨𝒭𝒺𝒼𝓄 < 1476681002 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shrimp < 1476681003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrimp transcends the concept of meat < 1476681017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd shrimp//s/s/S/;s/$/./ < 1476681019 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/shrimp//Shrimp transcends the concept of meat. < 1476681462 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476682500 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5dp8mzRPio is awesome every time < 1476682854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's that entry about? < 1476682895 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1476682896 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :radiohead//radiohead is "rock music" < 1476682900 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1476682901 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcq//"xkcq" is worth 8 more points than "xkcd" in Scrabble, or a whopping 30 more if both are played optimally on a triple word score. Nyahhh. < 1476682910 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1476682911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :siberia//Siberia is the capital of Finland. It's where the Fields Medal was first synthesised. < 1476682922 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1476682924 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usa//USA apparently doesn't stand for United State Automaton. < 1476682927 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1476682929 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :roujo//Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. He does not understand shell quoting. < 1476682934 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits xkcq < 1476682938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzïe evilips̈e b_jonäs < 1476682949 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know neither "xkcd" nor "xkcq" is valid words for Scrabble < 1476682955 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1476682956 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++//Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people. < 1476682960 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whao whoa < 1476682963 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the limit is 5 < 1476682969 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget xkcq < 1476682970 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? C < 1476682971 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1476682972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault < 1476682978 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? J < 1476682979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476682985 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? D < 1476682986 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D is a letter in the alphabet! It's also the name of a programming language. < 1476682992 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? APL < 1476682993 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL stands for Algorithmic Programming Language. < 1476683000 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOO < 1476683020 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cider < 1476683021 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cider? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476683027 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? beer < 1476683028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beer? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476683033 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL is to algorithms what LISP is to lists hth < 1476683039 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lisp < 1476683040 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476683051 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scheme < 1476683052 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476683054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a tricameral legislature- House, Senate, and Commons (chosen by random lottery from the general population)- would be a good idea... < 1476683058 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? racket < 1476683058 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :racket? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476683064 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you doing? < 1476683072 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems way too spammy, whatever it is. < 1476683119 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." -- Winston Churchill < 1476683160 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yeah, that's why I'd go with tricameral rather than replacing the elected legislature < 1476683402 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, case law is an annoying system; could we make a setup where case law becomes statutory through some transmogrification method?) < 1476683473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i propose a system where oerjan is world dictator < 1476683692 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1476683762 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1476683872 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose the system that nobody is allowed to be the world dictator < 1476684080 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits radiohead < 1476684082 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzïe evilips̈e oerjän ellioẗt olsnër < 1476684098 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dowg radiohead | tac < 1476684100 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-08-13 learn radiohead is "rock music" \ 2014-03-16 revert 1 \ 2014-03-16 revert \ 2016-09-25 ` chmod 777 / -R \ 2016-09-25 revert 942e964c81c1 < 1476684167 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a reference i'm not getting < 1476684257 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose so. < 1476684270 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd radiohead//s/r/R/;s/$/./ < 1476684272 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/radiohead//Radiohead is "rock music". < 1476684349 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1476684370 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476684378 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a common scientific rule for measuring knowledge? < 1476684395 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, 0 is no information and 1 is perfect information with 100% certainty of its accuracy < 1476684403 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think C++ is more confusing than C < 1476684422 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeaaah. < 1476684447 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Far more < 1476684472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It would take into account e.g. error bars- if you think a value that is definitely in the range 0 to 100 is 5, but it could be ±1, you have more knowledge than a value 8 ±2 for the same sort of value) < 1476684567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But then you have equation error bars- 5 ±1 is one thing, but for a similar sort of value 5 ±1, but you're 99% sure it's in the range 5 ±0.5 you have more knowledge even though the technically-possible range is still the same) < 1476684954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sic semper fungot < 1476684960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1476684962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! < 1476685398 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1476685566 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :The loss of fungot must have hit them pretty badly < 1476685835 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :had an idea for a lang < 1476685888 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it makes sense, emagine a time traveler that goes back in time, you now have 2 timelines, one where you zap out of existence, and the one you create by going back in time < 1476685967 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, perl? < 1476685968 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can change the state of yourself before you traveled back in time < 1476685992 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do not, an infinite amount of timelines are created and rip you < 1476686055 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose the system where every other country cedes all its land to canada < 1476686090 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the planet mars is renamed "Greater Quebec" < 1476686126 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@36.81.161.141 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1476686137 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i propose a doomsday device to get around the issue of unnecessary timelines persisting < 1476686181 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the planet venus is ceded to alberta < 1476686268 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and beacons so you know which timelines to jump to < 1476686440 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-171-104.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1476686474 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhbabhzzphntyudb QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1476686544 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-4-162.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476686589 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlpmtdafxuedryqw JOIN :#esoteric < 1476686655 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: OK, can you to write the document so that we can see it better? < 1476686786 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give an example perhaps? I sort of like this idea < 1476686834 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, sure! < 1476686846 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im kinda kept up by my bf debugger rn < 1476686859 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1476686935 0 :^v!pixel@me.pxtst.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill try my best to shape the mechanics so that they are unintuitive but not super difficult for a modern computer to interpret < 1476687085 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember once I was watching a television show about reincarnation and they had a scientific experiment too, and I remember I said to myself, "Reincarnation? That is nonsense. It is really a new kind of resonance." Later I found that apparently someone else also thought of that too. Do you know? < 1476687393 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476687784 0 :Cale!~cale@24.114.70.223 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1476688746 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Julian Assange's internet was intentionally severed 40 minutes ago < 1476688781 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :sauce? < 1476688794 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who did that? < 1476688814 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow. < 1476688826 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that was a dead man's switch. < 1476689153 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: you have the sauce? < 1476689164 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :just google "julian assange." < 1476689187 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1476689214 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :police are gathered in front of the embassy < 1476689236 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A londoner is streaming from his cell phone < 1476689238 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bambuser.com/v/2905015 < 1476689248 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man. < 1476689337 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :this can't and won't end well. < 1476689382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I have an encrypted file that his people could release the password for < 1476689416 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they do, suddenly everyone who has the torrent will be able to decrypt it and find out... something < 1476689417 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1476689465 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so essentially he has the government blackmailed and I can personally enforce the blackmail < 1476689481 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't that nice. < 1476689498 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly it won't do much. the sense of apathy these days is alarming. < 1476689521 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that's from 4 years ago < 1476689535 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 Aug 2012 23:55 BST < 1476689578 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787889195507417088 oho < 1476689612 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao. verizon steps in. < 1476689648 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:fc7f:41fd:c4fe:671e JOIN :#esoteric < 1476689654 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they have actually still got a connection, and this is actually drama to make people vote trump < 1476689680 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially given that last retweet regarding hillary < 1476689688 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it even matter anymore. < 1476689710 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have an orange oompa loompa that's either playing dumb or legitimately dumb (either way, he gets press) < 1476689722 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have a flat-out criminal. < 1476689730 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both are criminals < 1476689736 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :your vote will destroy this country either way. < 1476689740 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, don't vote. :P < 1476689744 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not American < 1476689748 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe is both playing dumb and is legitimately dumb < 1476689752 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god you aren't. < 1476689762 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're anywhere near this country, flee. or arm yourself. < 1476689764 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he's just legitimately dumb < 1476689772 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody's legitimately dumb. < 1476689784 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: they are if they can't speak < 1476689787 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: That is why I suggested to injure them so that they will not recover for two months < 1476689807 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: hah. < 1476689817 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, why on earth are we (and by we, I mean the Americans) currently voting between a pair of criminals < 1476689825 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we don't have a damn choice. < 1476689835 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/743824112376766465 <-- here is the 88 gigabyteinsurance leak < 1476689837 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we have a two party system. < 1476689840 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of whom is a sex offender, and the other is corrupt < 1476689861 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was intending on voting for Bernie because I knew he wouldn't do anything. status quo is the safest thing in the world to vote for. < 1476689869 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way we have four more years. < 1476689879 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at the same time, this doesn't matter. congress matters. < 1476689880 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I voted NDP last election. < 1476689903 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :we aren't electing a king, we're appointing a president. < 1476689912 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is to the left of both the american parties < 1476689947 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually, our conservatives are about the same as the american democratic party < 1476689963 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're fanatic about this election year because the press is invested in both parties, and 24 hour news networks get your views regardless of which side you are. < 1476689981 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're expected to care about this kindergarten shit-flinging. < 1476689997 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :when all it does is give you the illusion of choice with all the division that that ropes along with it. < 1476690014 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :this country is intending to divide itself. < 1476690019 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's scary. < 1476690028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Zzo38/cologneblue.css14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50009&oldid=43305 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+17) 10 < 1476690036 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I've never seen so many people angry about a single political position. ever. < 1476690063 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you guys should just split into two countries < 1476690070 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like india did < 1476690085 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@36.81.161.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476690096 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether it's the hype. whether it's the ignorance of the legal system. whether it's paid or unpaid supporters. but we're splitting in two. and that's scary. because if all we're trying to do is split eachother up, how can we actually claim to be a "united states"? < 1476690131 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might as well be a segregated peoples who hate eachother based on what two corporations tell them. < 1476690144 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're better than that. < 1476690149 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world is better than that. < 1476690160 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we aren't, well, I'll see you in the woods. < 1476690166 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: you make a good point about itbeing called the "united states" < 1476690400 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever happens after november 8th... all I want to do is remember that I used to be an american. < 1476690410 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a democrat. not a republican. an american. < 1476690438 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that sense of nationalism is gone, then I'd at least like to remember it fondly. < 1476691942 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6wa9btwdsro33.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1476692050 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to make an "ornithological argument" pun, but it turns out Borges did it first: http://agreatercourage.blogspot.com/2011/11/argumentum-ornithologicum.html < 1476692300 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476694226 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1476694258 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1476695407 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1476695980 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476695985 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6wa9btwdsro33.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1476696506 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1476696583 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a man on the scenwe < 1476696586 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.periscope.tv/JohnDeplo/1OwxWrZbMQDJQ?t=3 < 1476696602 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing god's work making sure assange is still free < 1476696671 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and alive < 1476697284 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man London is a bueautiuful city < 1476697299 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna go back there sometime < 1476697743 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it looks like nothing is happening < 1476698499 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1476698827 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? calesyta < 1476698828 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :calesyta? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1476699737 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476700109 0 :augur!~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:fc7f:41fd:c4fe:671e QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476700134 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1476700140 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476700444 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1476700914 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476701471 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1476702261 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1476703177 0 :Tanebot!~Tanebot@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1476704011 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476704260 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1476704337 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This evening I'm going to actually architecture Tanebot < 1476704541 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle, Tanebellot. < 1476704652 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebot: df iiisso < 1476704652 0 :Tanebot!~Tanebot@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :81; < 1476704894 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... that's a significant chunk of its functionality < 1476704902 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebot: test < 1476704902 0 :Tanebot!~Tanebot@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testing, 1 2 3 < 1476704910 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebot: quit < 1476704910 0 :Tanebot!~Tanebot@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Quit: Tanebot AWAY! < 1476704914 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all it does < 1476704937 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now i'm gonna get some lunch < 1476706001 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1476707431 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: PREDICATIVE CHICKEN < 1476707801 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1476707975 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03YSomebody 5* 10New user account < 1476708778 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4BF3B.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1476709190 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1476709425 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476709447 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50010&oldid=49967 5* 03Slnetaiga 5* (+382) 10Added MiLambda example < 1476709722 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50011&oldid=50010 5* 03Slnetaiga 5* (+470) 10Added F-PULSE < 1476710043 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476710316 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1476710435 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476710605 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476712489 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-10-223-145.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1476713019 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476713431 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@36.81.161.141 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1476713634 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1476713792 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1476716188 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476716401 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-itkljhartfvhctoi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what's it written in? < 1476716566 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1476716776 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Function call without parameters14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50012&oldid=49925 5* 03Function call without parameters 5* (-1) 10 < 1476716891 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn, Rust < 1476716903 0 :Cale!~cale@cpe-67-250-60-129.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1476717000 0 :hkgit03!c3f4eb82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.195.244.235.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476717311 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@36.81.161.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476717454 0 :hkgit03!c3f4eb82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.195.244.235.130 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1476717464 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a strange username < 1476717489 0 :hkgit03!c3f4eb82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.195.244.235.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476717509 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also implies that there are two esolangers in Hungary, which is interesting in its own regard < 1476717514 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynn: context? < 1476717732 0 :lynn!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-itkljhartfvhctoi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb's IRC bot from a short while before you joined < 1476717792 0 :hkgit03!c3f4eb82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.195.244.235.130 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1476717935 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1476718446 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"also implies that there are two esolangers in Hungary, which is interesting in its own regard" => you mean like all the smart people left the country? two esolangers isn't that surprising really < 1476718527 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well the esolang community is fairly small, and Hungary is also fairly small < 1476718536 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I guess it's substantially larger than Hexham < 1476718626 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it depends on who you count as an esolanger < 1476719051 0 :MoALTz_!~no@78-10-223-145.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1476719221 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-10-223-145.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1476719729 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to use a frame buffer ioctl on a pts sets errno to ENOTTY < 1476719733 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that make sense? < 1476719768 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't EINVAL be more appropriate? < 1476719853 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: ioctl's documentation says that it uses ENOTTY whenever you have a request that could be valid but you do it on the wrong sort of file descriptor < 1476719856 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that matches the docs < 1476719866 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is a tty ;-; < 1476719868 0 :trn!jhj@prone.ws JOIN :#esoteric < 1476719871 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why it does that, who knows < 1476719925 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@36.81.161.141 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1476720155 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@36.81.161.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476720334 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: maybe you're trying to call the ioctl on the wrong side of the pts? as in, the master when you need to call it on the slave, or backwards? < 1476720341 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: or maybe you're using the wrong ioctl number? < 1476720356 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :open("/dev/pts/2", O_RDWR) = 3 < 1476720358 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioctl(3, FBIOGET_VSCREENINFO, 0x170b090) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device) < 1476720376 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: what operating system? < 1476720381 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux < 1476720399 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: the stringisation of ENOTTY looks correct to me < 1476720407 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only thing you're objecting to is the abbreviation < 1476720420 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah maybe < 1476720423 0 :Cale!~cale@cpe-67-250-60-129.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476720546 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: um, what ioctl is that even? I don't see it in http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man4/tty_ioctl.4.html (which should have all the ioctls you can call on a pts in linux), nor in http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man4/console_ioctl.4.html or http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/ioctl_list.2.html < 1476720566 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it one of those undocumented things you only find by reading the kernel source code or the source code of kbd or something? < 1476720577 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, doesn't FB stand for frame buffer? < 1476720583 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1476720595 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1476720596 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: izalove's calling a frame buffer ioctl on a virtual terminal < 1476720619 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then complaining that the error code ENOTTY implies that the fd isn't a terminal, but it is < 1476720625 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see, he did say "trying to use a frame buffer ioctl" < 1476720661 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man4/console_ioctl.4.html says ENOTTY is the right errno code for that < 1476720742 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1476720748 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think izalove's just complaining about the name ENOTTY < 1476720762 0 :MoALTz_!?@? NICK :MoALTz < 1476720879 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, I was reading the list of errno codes < 1476720885 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are really obscure, aren't defined in the docs < 1476720898 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when grepping the Linux kernel for uses of them, it becomes clear that the kernel devs aren't sure what they're for either < 1476720928 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get EINVAL from trying to call GIO_FONT on a pts though < 1476720945 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: out of interest, /why/ were you trying to use a framebuffer ioctl on a VT? < 1476720960 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happened by mistake < 1476721000 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, there's a disclaimer in http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man4/console_ioctl.4.html saying "Warning: Do not regard this man page as documentation of the Linux console ioctls. This is provided for the curious only, as an \ < 1476721021 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternative to reading the source. Ioctl's are undocumented Linux internals, liable to be changed without warning. (And indeed, this page more or less describes the situation as of kernel version 1.1.94; there are many minor and not-so-minor differences with earlier versions.)" < 1476721024 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: fair enough < 1476721029 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much how I found a security exploit in xterm < 1476721032 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seriously says "1.1.94" < 1476721034 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm waiting for the fix to be released before I disclose what it is < 1476721067 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the cool kids use urxvt anyway < 1476721078 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: this is why NH4 has a list of all the uses of version numbers < 1476721081 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that I can go around updating them < 1476721094 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, that one is probably actually true < 1476721094 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I don't normally use xterm < 1476721100 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was writing a terminal test suite < 1476721105 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I mean, it doesn't list any of the frame buffer ioctls, like I said < 1476721107 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: right, but it'd remind me to look at the page again < 1476721174 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izalove: I think urxvt also recently had a bug once that came up when you set the window to very small, like 1x1 or 1x2 or something < 1476721240 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw xterm implements more codes than most other terminals do < 1476721246 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just most of them are really obscure and not very useful < 1476721260 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1476721271 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the terminal codes are for compatibility with history < 1476721335 0 :Cale!~cale@cpe-67-250-60-129.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1476721387 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of redundant escape codes that come from history, like "\e[10,20H" and "\e[10,20f" are the same in many terminals < 1476721428 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xterm is the only software-based terminal emulator I'm aware of that aims to emulate specific physical terminals < 1476721441 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than merely run terminal-based programs < 1476721477 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something it's 2016 and we still have fucking terminals < 1476721480 0 :izalove!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shock* < 1476721486 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1476721493 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should we have instead? < 1476721503 0 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :,o0(fufme) < 1476721527 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1476721583 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e{ use Fcntl; sysopen my $f, "/dev/cdrom", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK or die "open $?"; ioctl $f, 0x5309, 0 or die "ioctl $!"; } # opens the cd try - I have some strange perl code lying around < 1476721587 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :open 0 at -e line 1. < 1476721608 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e{ use Fcntl; sysopen my $f, "/dev/sr0", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK or die "open $?"; ioctl $f, 0x5309, 0 or die "ioctl $!"; } # opens the cd try - I have some strange perl code lying around < 1476721608 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :open 0 at -e line 1. < 1476721633 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does that say $? instead of $! < 1476721638 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably an error < 1476721779 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e for $n (qw"cdrom sr0 sr1 sdb sdc sda sdd hdb hdc hdd hda") { use Fcntl; if (!sysopen my $f, "/dev/$n", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) { print "open $n $!; "; } else if (!ioctl $f, 0x5309, 0) { print "ioctl $n $!; "; } else { print "cd tray open $n; "; } } < 1476721780 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error at -e line 1, near "else if" \ syntax error at -e line 1, near "} else" \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1476721786 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e for $n (qw"cdrom sr0 sr1 sdb sdc sda sdd hdb hdc hdd hda") { use Fcntl; if (!sysopen my $f, "/dev/$n", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) { print "open $n $!; "; } elsif (!ioctl $f, 0x5309, 0) { print "ioctl $n $!; "; } else { print "cd tray open $n; "; } } < 1476721787 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :open cdrom No such file or directory; open sr0 No such file or directory; open sr1 No such file or directory; open sdb No such file or directory; open sdc No such file or directory; open sda No such file or directory; open sdd No such file or directory; open hdb No such file or directory; open hdc No such file or directory; open hdd No such file or < 1476721819 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't open the cdrom tray of HackEgo < 1476721832 0 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3f-129.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1476721893 0 :Cale!~cale@cpe-67-250-60-129.nyc.res.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476725585 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476725642 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476725655 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1476726098 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-4-162.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1476726215 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is this terminal test suite public? < 1476726223 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes but also unfinished < 1476726224 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-8-192.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476726237 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I can't remember where it is, let me check < 1476726240 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an older one that's also public < 1476726245 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more finished but less functional < 1476726259 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :both sound interesting to take a look at < 1476726295 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :current one is temporarily in darcs at "darcs clone http://nethack4.org/projects/termtest" but that URL will probably change at some point, it violates the naming convention < 1476726351 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the older one is a set of four files, http://nethack4.org/charset.vt100 http://nethack4.org/colors.vt100 http://nethack4.org/cursormotion.vt100 http://nethack4.org/strings.vt100 ; you cat them to the terminal to run the test < 1476726362 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1476726378 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: I don't have any sort of darcsweb set up so you'll need to use darcs to get at the newer testsuite, it won't work in a browser) < 1476726619 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-8-192.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1476726655 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476726661 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1476726696 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also the vttest for testing vt* compatibility < 1476726715 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that of course lacks a lot of modern extensions like 256-color/24-bit color < 1476726741 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-10-247.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476726902 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1476727784 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:c90c:9bdd:60d5:f518 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476728172 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6wa9btwdsro33.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1476729118 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476729146 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476729689 0 :kline!?@? NICK :kl1n3 < 1476731553 0 :kl1n3!?@? NICK :kline < 1476732161 0 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1476732413 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use xterm < 1476732445 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other terminal emulators have various problems < 1476732804 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1476733917 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1476733927 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476733964 0 :Froox!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1476734021 0 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite happy with pangoterm < 1476734183 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@36.81.161.141 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1476734209 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@36.81.161.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476734224 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@36.81.161.141 QUIT :Client Quit < 1476734301 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got ncat as recommended... < 1476734307 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just need to figure out SSH < 1476735164 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1476735291 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476735807 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator QUIT :Quit: Goodbye :( < 1476735841 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50013&oldid=49996 5* 03YSomebody 5* (+129) 10 < 1476735863 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1476735981 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, more introductions < 1476736009 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1476736095 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@2a02:748:a800:ca7:ea75:b12d:2b:d423 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476736097 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, the ssh password prompt won't take input < 1476736102 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, I type and nothing happens < 1476736130 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: you do know that ssh password prompts don't echo, right? < 1476736141 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you wouldn't expect any visible output until you press return < 1476736146 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Oh < 1476736157 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is usual for passwords in UNIXy software < 1476736166 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh my god the password was 'password' < 1476736195 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and comes in useful if you're streaming your terminal online or the like < 1476736255 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01:e35:2eed:a430:c90c:9bdd:60d5:f518 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476736257 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It'd be nice if it at least echoed * or - < 1476736271 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: no < 1476736272 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd require setting the terminal to raw mode < 1476736275 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: that would reveal how long your password is < 1476736282 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be a security risk < 1476736288 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Then make it echo a random series of * or -s < 1476736296 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what for < 1476736297 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like, 1-3 *s) < 1476736299 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would the point be < 1476736305 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then again, you can count how many times it's added < 1476736319 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: It's really just because I'm a n00b and I didn't realize it's working < 1476736344 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should change anything in unix hppavilion[2] is too stupid for < 1476736348 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great idea < 1476736360 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1476736414 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes, I now realize it was a stupid idea < 1476736497 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to figure out the password for the admin account... < 1476736531 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1476736553 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you really sure you want to use a unixoid? < 1476736577 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes < 1476736587 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I was just confused momentarily; it is resolved now < 1476736587 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1476736644 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1476737117 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50014&oldid=49621 5* 03YSomebody 5* (+34) 10 < 1476737468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50015&oldid=50014 5* 03YSomebody 5* (+65) 10 < 1476737798 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-88.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476737891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, actually, I think it's a honeypot < 1476737996 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It accepts any password < 1476738029 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It always prompts 3 times, then asks for the password for the account... maybe I'm misunderstanding) < 1476738335 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476738828 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@2a02:748:a800:ca7:ea75:b12d:2b:d423 QUIT :Changing host < 1476738828 0 :Bowserinator!~Bowserina@unaffiliated/bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1476738933 0 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-1-82-238-218-67.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476738985 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-92.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1476740419 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476740580 0 :Cale!~cale@cpe-67-250-60-129.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1476740719 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476740912 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476741049 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a dumb question. I have two directories on the same filesystem, $a and $b. I want to recursively move all files from $a to under $b in the same relative path, creating directories if necessary. However, if a file with the same relative pathname exists under both dirs and they aren't both directories, then those files and their recursive con < 1476741049 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tents should be left alone with a warning. No file should be copied, this should use rename to move the files. < 1476741063 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is on linux. Is there an easy command to do this? < 1476741184 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it was Windows, I'd recommend XXCopy, but with Linux, you'll need some form of fancy scrfipt... < 1476741240 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DHeadshot: I see < 1476741241 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: if you don't mind GUI programs, that's the default behaviour of Nautilus when you move files < 1476741264 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably also some combination of options to rsync that does that < 1476741291 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was wondering on rsync, but I don't think it has options for this < 1476741296 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could be wrong < 1476741323 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can write a script of course, I'm just wondering if there's some easy option I'm missing < 1476741325 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, you can set rsync to do it as a copy-and-delete, but probably not a rename < 1476741357 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv -n would work if you didn't care about keeping relative path < 1476741359 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, in this case the tree is rather large in total size, so I'd prefer not to copy < 1476741379 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely want to keep the relative path < 1476741392 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I was hoping there was such a thing as mv -r but apparently not < 1476741404 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any weird characters in the filenames? < 1476741417 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably rig up something with find and mv < 1476741465 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, what about find and rename? < 1476741470 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tests < 1476741519 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird characters => there are spaces and commas and non-ascii characters. < 1476741549 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's not a dealbreaker < 1476741557 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find might help, or I was thinking maybe shell's recursive globbing could help (either zsh's or modern bash's) < 1476741585 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, find | xargs rename does actually work < 1476741590 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it wouldn't create directories < 1476741596 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does, it actually renames the entire directory tree < 1476741611 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then fails to move the files inside the directory tree because there's already a file at the target < 1476741614 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, renaming the directory tree is the best < 1476741646 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs with what command? mv -vi ? < 1476741666 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or mv -ni rather < 1476741667 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: rename(2) < 1476741670 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the command I'm using to test: < 1476741685 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find a -print0 | xargs -0 rename 's/^a/b/' < 1476741688 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, rename(1) < 1476741695 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rename could work too, yes < 1476741708 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how good are your backups < 1476741716 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, can you recover if something goes horribly wrong?) < 1476741749 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :backups of $a are good, because I just copied it from a slower medum and they're still there, backups of $b aren't recent < 1476741758 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already done the move in this case though < 1476741763 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm asking in case this comes up in the future < 1476741774 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1476741797 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering what caused the problem; you're basically doing an orelse on directory trees < 1476741799 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$a had around 30 GB of data, and there were no clashing files between the two, but I wasn't sure of that in advance < 1476741838 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1476741850 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what caused the problem" => as in why it wasn't obvious how, or what the use case was? < 1476741853 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv --backup would be the more common solution to the "don't lose data if there's a clash" issue < 1476741857 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the use case was < 1476741971 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a directory where I store photos. It has a particular mostly reasonable directory structure to sort the photos by year at first level and location/topic/author at second and sometimes third level. but I only had the new photos in this hard drive, and I just copied 30GB of old photos (in the same structure) from another hard drive < 1476742011 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I guess the "correct" thing to do would be to rsync the old drive to the new drive directly < 1476742017 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than copy and try to reorganize the copy < 1476742047 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but how do I make rsync not overwrite photos if there happens to be a name clash? there probably isn't, or only with identical files, but I wanted to be sure < 1476742072 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: rsync -b < 1476742108 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you try to copy over an existing file, the existing file gets renamed to safety < 1476742120 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476742131 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are other options that describe how, e.g. you can rename them into a directory specifically for holding rebaned files) < 1476742132 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I didn't know about that option to rsync < 1476742133 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1476742156 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would have worked < 1476742238 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1476742974 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476743008 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476743279 0 :otherbot!~yaybot@unaffiliated/jeffl35/bot/jeffbot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1476743290 0 :augur!~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1476743378 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1476744194 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1476744236 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476744328 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :test test test < 1476744357 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be connected to IRC just fine, but nothing HTTP will resolve... < 1476744383 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google is pingable. < 1476744418 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fungot. < 1476744426 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1476744428 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-2hj4tbos9tbg6wa9btwdsro33.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1476744527 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476744549 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is confused < 1476744608 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gmail works, reddit works, but the problem persists for other sites such as xkcd. < 1476744642 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is it a dns problem? routing problem? browser problem? < 1476744648 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something else? < 1476744669 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like a DNS and/or IPv6 problem, maybe? < 1476744680 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aptitude can't reach ubuntu's update sites... < 1476744708 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can google my problem. some other people seem to be affected by it, but I can't get to the pages :/ < 1476744735 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1476744935 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, ubuntuforums.org is reachable! < 1476744942 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying with a static IP. let's see... < 1476744945 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1476745005 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not a browser problem, and it persists after ten minutes, call your ISP or your local sysadmin? < 1476745077 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476745115 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't change nothing, and apparently my phone has the same issue. Android's complaining that I have no internet access, even tho reddit is also reachable from there. < 1476745125 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try with a different router! < 1476745131 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1476746104 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476746114 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new router, rebooted the modem per its setup instructions, it works! < 1476746164 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@82.2.190.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1476746176 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles his old router into oblivion < 1476746242 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1476746338 0 :moonheart08!~luxon@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1476746389 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles it some more to reach a perfect grind < 1476746431 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to make router coffee? < 1476746507 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking its pulverized remains to enslave its impure soul. < 1476746524 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its carcass no more, its essence desecrated. < 1476746950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Lhooq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=50016&oldid=43746 5* 03YSomebody 5* (-3) 10 < 1476746964 0 :wob_jonas!59858794@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.135.148 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1476746980 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1476746981 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​אrjan//אrjan is oerjan's first uncountable twin. He's inconsistent with the ZFC axioms. < 1476747001 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just how many oerjans are there... < 1476747338 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1476747406 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily. uncountably many, of course. < 1476747612 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. tdh. < 1476747620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there appears to be a fungap again. < 1476747632 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1476747766 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice portmanteau. < 1476747773 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello. FUNGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP! < 1476747779 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. < 1476747794 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1476748052 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Am I the only one that has my client set to highlight on porthellos?) < 1476748069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm mentally playing with a generalization of factors and division < 1476748114 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which generalizes "k is a factor of x" (equiv. "k divides x") to "k is a factor of x over f" < 1476748295 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pretty simple; k :: t, x :: t, f :: t => Setlike, k %|_f x <-> (f k) \subseq (f x) < 1476748313 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? perl < 1476748314 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is the Perfect Emacs Rewriting Language < 1476748325 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? emacs < 1476748326 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs is the weird brother of nano. < 1476748330 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nano < 1476748331 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nano is vi's sister. < 1476748333 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? vi < 1476748334 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi is in a relationship with emacs. < 1476748337 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ed < 1476748338 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed is the standard text editor. < 1476748341 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah! < 1476748346 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybdellon! < 1476748348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ybden: spam < 1476748354 0 :ybden!ybden@unaffiliated/ybden PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! < 1476748372 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: can't think, my mind will doubt. disappearing for a weekly poutine session. < 1476748385 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.245.222.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GUESS CHICKEN < 1476748443 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If f is invertible, you can then define division a/_f b (a :: t, b :: t, f :: t => Setlike, ~f :: Setlike => t) where b %|_f a as ~f(f(a) \sminus f(b)) < 1476748445 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1476748568 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for normal divisors, f is pfb(x)/prime-factor-bag)