00:00:42 İ is a horrifying letter 00:01:49 All the more horrifying when you want to think about how it fits into C locales. 00:02:28 ... Near as I can tell, the spec isn't even specific enough to let you know if the Turkish case mapping is a permissible implementation. 00:07:22 the spec doesn't allow for a language which isn't localely-euclidean 00:10:48 that still leaves manifold options 00:11:31 @wn manifold 00:11:32 *** "manifold" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 00:11:32 manifold 00:11:32 adj 1: many and varied; having many features or forms; "manifold 00:11:32 reasons"; "our manifold failings"; "manifold 00:11:32 intelligence"; "the multiplex opportunities in high 00:11:34 [11 @more lines] 00:12:02 I think I've seen "...!" in a book, but not really as a trailing exclamation, more of a delayed realization. 00:12:37 shachaf: are you doubting my puns tdnh 00:13:04 oerjan: no, i was wondering whether that use is legitimate, because i'd avoided it in the past 00:13:07 but it seems fine 00:14:17 fizzie: Yeah 00:14:46 hppavilion[1]: ah yeah I see what you mean now. I often have a need for for the question- and bang-comma 00:16:15 @more 00:16:15 technology" [syn: {manifold}, {multiplex}] 00:16:15 n 1: a pipe that has several lateral outlets to or from other 00:16:15 pipes 00:16:15 2: a lightweight paper used with carbon paper to make multiple 00:16:15 copies; "an original and two manifolds" [syn: {manifold 00:16:17 [6 @more lines] 00:16:43 What would "" mean I wonder?.. 00:16:44 shachaf: it seems a bit scow that @wn gives examples with synonyms instead... 00:17:00 dingbat: And interrobang-comma, of course 00:22:48 ais523: It was intended to be very obscure so that as you decode it into intelligible English, you get the joke <-- pretty sure it failed hth 00:23:16 (well, not at the obscure part) 00:24:34 oerjan: Not obscure, but bizarre 00:25:36 "obscure" was just the best word that came to mind 00:26:18 OKAY 00:29:33 <\oren\> the unicode database in hackego is clearly outdated <-- how out of date? i upgraded it a few months ago, although some commands might not use the right one... 00:29:41 `cat bin/unicode 00:29:41 ​#!/usr/bin/env python \ # -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- \ import re \ import sys, os \ import unicodedata \ def l(c): m = re.match('(?:U[+])?([0-9a-f]{1,5})$', c, re.I); return unicodedata.lookup(c) if m is None else unichr(int(m.group(1),16)) \ try: \ print u''.join(map(l, sys.argv[1:])).encode('utf-8') \ except KeyError: \ os.execvp("multico 00:30:05 `cat bin/multicode 00:30:06 ​#!/usr/bin/python \ \ \ import os, glob, sys, unicodedata, locale, gzip, re, traceback, encodings \ import urllib, webbrowser, textwrap \ \ # bz2 was introduced in 2.3, we want this to work also with earlier versions \ try: \ import bz2 \ except ImportError: \ bz2 = None \ \ # for python3 \ try: \ unicode \ except NameError: \ 00:30:19 `url bin/multicode 00:30:21 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/multicode 00:31:30 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 00:32:17 `doag bin/multicode 00:32:19 2016-09-25 revert 58b9ee8f97a7 \ 2016-09-25 ` rm --no-preserve-root -rfv / # testing, plz no ban \ 2016-01-13 ` sed -i \'s!bin/UnicodeD!share/UnicodeD!\' bin/multicode; mv {bin,share}/UnicodeD* \ 2015-06-21 revert \ 2015-06-21 rm bin -r \ 2014-04-25 mv bin/{un,mult}icode && (head -n -1 bin/unico 00:32:42 `doag bin/unicode 00:32:44 2016-09-25 revert 58b9ee8f97a7 \ 2016-09-25 ` rm --no-preserve-root -rfv / # testing, plz no ban \ 2015-06-21 revert \ 2015-06-21 rm bin -r \ 2014-04-25 sed -i \'s/"multicode", /"multicode", ["multicode"] +/\' bin/unicode \ 2014-04-25 chmod +x bin/unicode \ 2014-04-25 mv bin/{un,mult}icod 00:33:01 probably only multicode uses it 00:35:45 `` multicode MODIFIER LETTER | tr -d ' -~\n' 00:35:46 ​ʰʱʲʳʴʵʶʷʸʹ 00:36:22 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 00:36:42 `ls share 00:36:43 8ballreplies \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ candide \ cat \ Complaints.mp3 \ conscripts \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ headers \ headers.gch \ hello \ lua \ maimer \ maimery \ maze \ mtg \ nothp \ recipe \ scapegoats \ sedtest \ tanebgrep \ UnicodeData.txt \ units.dat \ usercmds \ WordData 00:38:22 `fetch http://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt 00:38:25 2016-10-06 23:38:03 URL:http://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt [1686443/1686443] -> "UnicodeData.txt" [1] 00:38:30 -!- moonythedwarf_ has joined. 00:38:38 `` diff Unic* share/Unic* 00:38:39 No output. 00:39:41 @tell \oren\ HackEgo's share/UnicodeData.txt is still the newest from unicode.org 00:39:41 Consider it noted. 00:40:31 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 00:43:30 -!- xkapastel has joined. 00:44:08 `` rm Unic* 00:44:10 No output. 00:44:16 `lastfiles 00:44:17 UnicodeData.txt 00:44:29 zachtrpnics really knows how to nerdsnipe 00:45:28 What was that one command kind of like `url? 00:49:52 that's a very vague question 00:50:06 but either `paste or `hurl may do 00:51:05 hurl 00:51:11 Which stands for... 00:51:23 hoag url, maybe 00:51:29 `doag bin/hurl 00:51:30 2016-10-02 ` cp bin/{,h}url; sed -i \'11s/file/log/\' bin/hurl 00:51:46 Why is hoag called hoag, again? 00:51:56 hog -> hoag because of an added feature, perhaps 00:51:59 hog = hg log 00:52:01 makes sense 00:57:33 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:58:12 -!- augur has joined. 01:01:32 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:02:18 -!- augur has joined. 01:07:41 oh dear 01:12:24 [wiki] [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49874&oldid=49869 * Oerjan * (-37) Gah, this link broke the filter 01:21:06 -!- centrinia has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:28:31 -!- sewilton has joined. 01:39:53 [wiki] [[Special:Log/abusefilter]] modify * Oerjan * modified [[Special:AbuseFilter/9]] ([[Special:AbuseFilter/history/9/diff/prev/55]]) 01:41:32 uh, mini metro is about to be released for mobile plattforms this month 01:41:35 i hope this doesn't break some other corner case when people aren't editing that page... 01:42:12 @tell ais523 I hope my latest abuse filter tweak doesn't break something else... 01:42:12 Consider it noted. 01:43:41 mini metro? 01:46:43 [wiki] [[User talk:AngelicosPhosphoros]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49875 * Oerjan * (+287) Sorry for the trouble 01:48:56 Does entropy have dimension? If so, what? 01:50:38 [wiki] [[User talk:TuxCrafting]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49876 * Oerjan * (+304) Oops 01:51:15 Entropy's dimension is energy/temperature. 01:51:33 Ergo we should measure data in joules/kelvin. 01:54:03 pikhq: Perhaps, but I'm going for Planck. Is there a minimum temperature under Planck? 01:54:47 the planck units aren't necessarily minima or maxima 01:55:05 oerjan: But many of them are 01:55:23 (The ones that aren't aggravate me) 01:55:29 The non-derived ones *tend* to be. 01:55:35 Yes 01:55:35 The derived ones are all over the place. 01:56:10 pikhq: Planck acceleration: c/t_P 01:56:11 The planck temperature does not seem to be the absolute maximum, but it is the absolute maximum that current theory can function on. 01:56:27 Greater than that and you need a working theory of quantum gravity, which we don't have, apparently. 01:56:41 There is a minimum temperature in Plack units. 0. 01:56:55 :) 01:57:04 (the acceleration that gets you from 0 to c in 1 planck time flat) 01:57:05 pikhq: :P 01:58:14 pikhq: Correction: What's the minimum *difference* in temperature under Planck? The fancy version of degrees Fahrenheit (oh my god I spelled it right)/Celsius/Kelvin/Rankine 01:58:21 that is pretty fast 01:58:38 I don't know if there is a well known quanta of temperature. 01:58:55 A physicist rather than a physics amateur might help you there. 01:59:59 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 02:01:53 -!- jeffl42 has changed nick to jeffl35. 02:01:54 `WELCOME dingbat <-- hm, after the links got shortened, they should be insensitive. 02:02:27 `` ls wisdom/jeff* 02:02:29 ls: cannot access wisdom/jeff*: No such file or directory 02:02:50 [physicist]: "¡Whew! ¿What's the temperature out here today?" [Man] "Uhh... (checks old-timey thermometer) negative 10." [physicist] "Really? Celsius or Fahrenheit?" [Man] "Kelvin" (Physicist promptly vanishes in a puff of logic) 02:03:12 insert missing ¿s and ¡s as needed 02:03:16 -!- augur has joined. 02:03:24 negative temperature has been claimed. 02:03:26 s/logic/heat/ 02:03:39 pikhq: ...sure? 02:03:54 s/heat/empirical evidence/ 02:05:44 Within some closed systems with a very limited number of energy states, negative temperatures can start falling out of equations in very high energy states. 02:06:22 This doesn't happen with e.g. atoms, though. 02:09:17 i vaguely recall someone claiming that was just using the wrong definitions, though. 02:09:32 <\oren\> `u8tbl 0x2731 0x2738 02:09:32 ​✱✲✳✴✵✶✷✸ 02:09:48 starry starry night 02:20:54 -!- moonythedwarf_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:26:34 <\oren\> `unicode 273d 02:26:34 ​✽ 02:26:45 <\oren\> `unicode ✽ 02:26:47 U+273D HEAVY TEARDROP-SPOKED ASTERISK \ UTF-8: e2 9c bd UTF-16BE: 273d Decimal: ✽ \ ✽ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) 02:28:55 -!- OriginalOldMan has joined. 02:38:46 `` u8tbl 0x2731 0x2738 | sed 's/ //g' | icode 02:38:47 No output. 02:38:52 ...damn 02:38:58 `` u8tbl 0x2731 0x2738 | sed 's/ //g' 02:38:59 ​✱✲✳✴✵✶✷✸ 02:39:04 ...huh. 02:39:22 `` u8tbl 0x2731 0x2738 | sed 's/ //g' | unidecode 02:39:23 No output. 02:39:44 `` unidecode ✱✲✳✴✵✶✷✸ 02:39:45 ​[U+2731 HEAVY ASTERISK] [U+2732 OPEN CENTRE ASTERISK] [U+2733 EIGHT SPOKED ASTERISK] [U+2734 EIGHT POINTED BLACK STAR] [U+2735 EIGHT POINTED PINWHEEL STAR] [U+2736 SIX POINTED BLACK STAR] [U+2737 EIGHT POINTED RECTILINEAR BLACK STAR] [U+2738 HEAVY EIGHT POINTED RECTILINEAR BLACK STAR] 02:39:54 ...wat? 02:39:58 Wait 02:40:01 `` u8tbl 0x2731 0x2738 | sed 's/ //g' | unidecode | echo 02:40:01 close failed in file object destructor: \ sys.excepthook is missing \ lost sys.stderr 02:40:18 OK, I have no clue what's going on 02:40:25 Wait, unidecode doesn't work well in ``, does it? 02:40:27 Crap 02:42:08 `` u8tbli 0x2731 0x2738 02:42:09 No output. 02:43:15 `u8tbli 0x2731 0x2738 02:43:16 ​[U+2731 HEAVY ASTERISK] [U+2732 OPEN CENTRE ASTERISK] [U+2733 EIGHT SPOKED ASTERISK] [U+2734 EIGHT POINTED BLACK STAR] [U+2735 EIGHT POINTED PINWHEEL STAR] [U+2736 SIX POINTED BLACK STAR] [U+2737 EIGHT POINTED RECTILINEAR BLACK STAR] [U+2738 HEAVY EIGHT POINTED RECTILINEAR BLACK STAR] 02:43:18 :) 02:43:50 ...there weren't any spaces in it in the first place >.< 02:47:48 What's the name for a sort of set-clustering function? Given a set of values S and a function f from those values to something for which the concept of equality makes sense (i.e. most things), the f-cluster of S is a set of sets of values, grouped by those where f x is the same as all others in the set. 02:49:17 kernel 02:49:26 shachaf: ty 02:51:39 `` doag bin/u8tbli 02:51:41 2016-10-07 mkx bin/u8tbli//unidecode `u8tbl $1 $2` \ 2016-10-07 mkx bin/u8tbli//unidecode `u8tbl $1 $2 | sed \'s/ //g\'` \ 2016-10-07 mkx bin/u8tbli//u8tbl $1 $2 | sed \'s/ //g\' | unidecode 02:52:00 or coimage? 02:52:00 shhhhhh 02:55:06 `` echo $1; echo $2 02:55:07 echo $1; echo $2 02:55:22 `` echo $1; echo $2; echo hi 02:55:23 echo $1; echo $2; echo hi \ \ hi 02:56:04 ("$@" is the usual way of saying that) 02:57:42 <\oren\> `` echo 02:57:43 No output. 02:57:45 <\oren\> `` echo hi 02:57:46 hi 02:58:01 <\oren\> `` echo $1 02:58:02 echo $1 03:03:13 <\oren\> `` echo $1 foo bar 03:03:13 echo $1 foo bar foo bar 03:04:01 <\oren\> `` echo $1 $1 03:04:02 echo $1 $1 echo $1 $1 03:04:22 <\oren\> `` echo `echo $1` 03:04:23 echo `echo $1` 03:04:39 <\oren\> `` echo `echo $1 $1` 03:04:40 echo `echo $1 $1` echo `echo $1 $1` 03:04:52 <\oren\> `` echo `echo $1` $1 03:04:52 echo `echo $1` $1 echo `echo $1` $1 03:10:14 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:38:13 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 03:41:20 -!- MDead has joined. 03:41:39 -!- MDead has quit (Client Quit). 04:00:03 <\oren\> `u8tbl 0x3190 0x319f 04:00:04 ​㆐㆑㆒㆓㆔㆕㆖㆗㆘㆙㆚㆛㆜㆝㆞㆟ 04:01:44 -!- sewilton has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 04:02:28 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:28:50 I kind of like the idea of the default looping construct for an esolang being a while(1) loop, with conditional breaks. 04:34:35 where anything between [] loops indefinitely, unless broken by an unconditional break ';' or a conditional break '?'. conditional blocks become a series of subloops that terminate early. 04:35:50 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16AYJ5H7Pr0 04:36:37 that video is exceptionally loud. 04:52:30 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 04:58:57 <\oren\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaMCvh5qzo8 04:59:31 -!- Kaynato has joined. 05:33:12 -!- `^_^v has joined. 06:18:24 http://i.imgur.com/lRcztwu.png 06:31:37 OK, I have to ask, is http://xkcd.com/713/ at all legally possible? 06:32:08 Legally? I don't see why not. 06:33:04 pikhq: I mean are there any remotely popular GeoIP databases that I can change my location in? 06:33:13 Ah. Dunno. 06:58:26 Would a solution to the 3-body problem give you Lagrange points for 3-object systems? Somehow? 07:01:20 -!- augur has joined. 07:06:49 (cyclogram: a series of words satisfying the property that each word starts with the terminal letter of its predecessor. 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18:22:42 What's this one called? 18:25:44 http://www.zachtronics.com/shenzhen-io/ 18:27:24 -!- Zarutian has joined. 18:27:59 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:28:44 -!- Zarutian has joined. 18:30:46 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 18:31:22 Oh right 18:35:39 -!- Caesura has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 18:35:59 -!- Reece` has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:37:26 -!- Reece` has joined. 18:38:20 I like the motto 18:38:34 That looks very cool 18:40:34 “where every instruction can be conditionally executed” → it looks like x86 mixed with some old RISC designs 18:40:39 intersting 18:40:41 i wish they would port more gamea to android 18:40:55 Sounds like ARM 18:41:21 A lot of designs shortly after the berkley risc paper were like that 18:41:49 i thought arm dropped a lot of predicated instructions 18:41:57 AArch64 did yeah 18:42:01 it's more like RISC-V 18:42:59 -!- Caesura has joined. 18:55:42 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:07:34 -!- MoALTz has joined. 19:08:44 -!- imode has joined. 19:13:46 -!- OriginalOldMan has joined. 19:16:28 -!- Akaibu has joined. 19:21:43 ...oh my fucking god http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,946,647.PN.&OS=PN/5,946,647&RS=PN/5,946,647 is horrifying 19:23:25 -!- Caesura has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 19:24:32 -!- Caesura has joined. 19:26:35 <\oren\> what, the length of the url is horrfying? I agree 19:27:13 so basically android repeatedly breaks that with their "oh, you try to open a link, let me open the right app for that"? 19:28:24 <\oren\> february 1996; that patent is expired 19:33:40 The title and abstract of a patent don't tell you much, you have to look at the claims 19:34:11 But yeah, looking at the claims, that patent is pretty bad 19:34:53 -!- PinealGlandOptic has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 19:36:03 <\oren\> anyway, maybe I should just implement the remaining subscript, superscript, and smallcap letters in my font ans submit to the Unicode Consortium 19:36:28 -!- MDude has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:36:38 wait, what do them have to do with fonts? 19:37:36 *they even 19:37:58 <\oren\> myname: the point is, I will assign them codepoints in my font and use that as a proposal for how to encode them 19:38:10 <\oren\> this is the usual system 19:38:13 ah 19:38:23 so your font will become the definition 19:38:44 <\oren\> at least for those characters 19:39:25 <\oren\> i mean, subscript and superscript are a common thing, I'm just going to fill in the ones that heven't yet been encoded 19:39:41 <\oren\> superscript: CFQXYZ, q 19:39:52 <\oren\> subscript: bcdfgqwyz 19:39:59 <\oren\> and small capital X 19:42:24 go for it 19:43:07 i for one welcome our new unicode overlord 19:49:31 -!- zzo38 has joined. 19:50:39 ^ someone else who gets it 19:51:05 * pecan had to remove unicode macro definitions from his code today because tricking gcc into supporting them is too annoying D: 19:51:13 \oren\: IMHO, Unicode should just have characters that indicate "the nest character is to be printed in superscript/subscript" 19:51:53 myname: itym theyv'n 19:52:54 * ybden smacks pecan 19:55:32 You know what'd be great? An agglutinative system of profanity 19:56:17 Rule 1: s/m /mn / makes a profane word. 19:56:24 * pecan throws a switch(x){Ǝ(1,2,3,{…})default:…} at ybden 19:56:54 -!- zzo38 has quit (*.net *.split). 19:56:55 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (*.net *.split). 19:56:55 -!- copumpkin has quit (*.net *.split). 19:56:55 -!- lynn has quit (*.net *.split). 19:56:56 -!- Frooxius has quit (*.net *.split). 19:56:58 -!- FreeFull has quit (*.net *.split). 19:57:00 -!- yorick has quit (*.net *.split). 19:57:02 -!- alercah has quit (*.net *.split). 19:57:10 -!- alercah has joined. 19:57:11 -!- yorick has joined. 19:57:12 -!- yorick has quit (Changing host). 19:57:12 -!- yorick has joined. 19:57:13 -!- FreeFull has joined. 19:57:19 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 19:57:22 Dam: totally OK; Damn: honestly still OK except around people with no concept of curse levels 19:57:22 -!- Frooxius has joined. 19:57:33 -!- copumpkin has joined. 19:57:50 -!- zzo38 has joined. 19:58:36 lip balmn 19:59:00 * pecan . o O ( complex profanity system with honorifics for the difference in status between the speaker and the one being addressed ) 19:59:32 “damn, well done sir! – er, I mean damno! …shit” 20:04:35 -!- Caesura has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 20:06:18 -!- moonythedwarf has joined. 20:07:32 -!- lynn_ has joined. 20:08:49 -!- ybden has quit (*.net *.split). 20:08:49 -!- feliks has quit (*.net *.split). 20:08:51 -!- sebbu has quit (*.net *.split). 20:08:52 -!- zemhill has quit (*.net *.split). 20:08:52 -!- sirnaysayer has quit (*.net *.split). 20:08:52 -!- iovoid has quit (*.net *.split). 20:08:54 -!- idris-bot has quit (*.net *.split). 20:08:56 -!- zemhill has joined. 20:08:57 pecan: Oh my god I want that 20:08:57 -!- sirnaysayer has joined. 20:08:58 -!- ybden has joined. 20:09:02 -!- iovoid has joined. 20:09:14 -!- feliks has joined. 20:09:18 -!- sebbu has joined. 20:09:26 -!- iovoid has changed nick to Guest21185. 20:10:17 pecan: Not 'shit', 'zhite' 20:10:19 -!- Caesura has joined. 20:10:26 oh, fuck, sorry. 20:11:26 pecan: "fookuh" 20:12:08 I feel like “fuck” is too much of a generic catch-all in English, we need to take some cues from Russian. 20:12:09 pecan: But we'll also have a rule that correct use of profanity changes social status, so if you use the correct words too often they become incorrect 20:12:24 Naturally. 20:12:40 Anyone who can get the system right all the time is very high status indeed. 20:13:00 pecan: And 'bitch' must be inflected to specify breed 20:13:06 Quite 20:14:24 we should also use counting words for bitch, but the counting word should match the breed of bitch, e.g. “out of my way, heads of bitchows” 20:17:21 -!- Melvar has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.5). 20:17:25 -!- idris-bot has joined. 20:17:37 -!- Melvar has joined. 20:18:37 pecan: ...wait, counting words? 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poodle pitch 20:22:49 pecan: Whunderstand? 20:22:53 poodle pitch? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 20:23:06 ybden: 'pitch' is the conjucation of 'bitch' for poodles 20:23:09 *conjugation 20:23:13 I see. 20:24:02 would it be a dachshund ditch or is a dachshund still a bitch 20:24:15 i know somebody with a price labeled "best german bitch" 20:25:50 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 20:26:22 -!- zgrep has joined. 20:26:53 -!- OriginalOldMan has quit (Quit: Page closed). 20:28:27 -!- ocharles_ has joined. 20:32:02 -!- vifino has quit (*.net *.split). 20:32:23 -!- vifino has joined. 20:33:21 -!- Cale has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:22 -!- dingbat has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:22 -!- incomprehensibly has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:22 -!- sparr has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:23 -!- carado has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:25 -!- pikhq has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:28 -!- heroux has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:30 -!- staffehn has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:30 -!- alakra has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:32 -!- bibibi has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:32 -!- pdxleif has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:32 -!- \oren\ has quit (*.net *.split). 20:33:45 -!- carado has joined. 20:33:49 -!- heroux has joined. 20:33:53 -!- pikhq has joined. 20:33:57 -!- Cale has joined. 20:34:10 -!- alakra has joined. 20:34:14 -!- \oren\ has joined. 20:34:29 -!- staffehn has joined. 20:35:49 -!- sparr has joined. 20:36:01 -!- lynn_ has changed nick to lynn. 20:36:09 -!- lynn has quit (Changing host). 20:36:09 -!- lynn has joined. 20:36:09 -!- lynn has quit (Changing host). 20:36:09 -!- lynn has joined. 20:36:58 <\oren\> uh oh I hope I'm not going to provoke a flamewar 20:38:17 -!- augur has joined. 20:38:34 -!- pdxleif has joined. 20:40:21 \oren\: how so? 20:41:03 -!- Caesura has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 20:41:31 <\oren\> moonythedwarf: I just said something controversial about unicode, how they aren't treating linguists equally with mathematicians 20:41:36 -!- Kaynato has joined. 20:41:50 <\oren\> they aren't giving thm big swathes of characters to play with 20:42:41 <\oren\> http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2016-m10/index.html 20:43:08 <\oren\> Hmm... "filling in Latin alphabet encoding gaps without clear use cases" is 20:43:08 <\oren\> exactly what was done for the blackboard bold letters. 20:43:08 <\oren\> I scarcely think that a use case was submitted for every one of the 20:43:08 <\oren\> blackboard bold etc letters in the mathematical set; merely the use of 20:43:08 <\oren\> blackboard bold for a general purpose of denoting sets such as the 20:43:10 <\oren\> naturals, reals, complex numbers etc, and the fact that arbitrary letters 20:43:13 <\oren\> might be used if a mathematician desired, seems to have sufficed. 20:43:28 <\oren\> ^ I said the above, it might have been harsh. 20:44:01 <\oren\> yes, I'm alot more eloquent in email than in irc 20:44:24 -!- dingbat has joined. 20:44:31 -!- FireFly has quit (Quit: Goodbye). 20:44:34 <\oren\> hidingbat 20:45:12 -!- FireFly has joined. 20:45:33 <\oren\> Fhirefly 20:47:40 -!- Reece` has quit (*.net *.split). 20:47:41 -!- DHeadshot has quit (*.net *.split). 20:47:41 -!- Taneb has quit 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21:51:22 -!- ocharles_ has joined. 21:53:17 Now I borrowed the GURPS books from the library, and I have added into FurryScript the ability to use "d" without a number to mean d6, for use with GURPS. 21:54:47 I would also need to add in the proper parts for the skill generator 21:55:00 zzo38: But d6 = 0, because 6 is a constant. 21:55:45 This is a different notation though where d6 means a six-sided dice 21:56:38 <\oren\> shachaf: 4d5 can never = 45 21:56:59 ? 21:57:13 <\oren\> but it can = 20 21:57:14 Only up to twenty 21:58:23 What is (d2)(d2)? 21:58:39 Is it either 1d2 or 2d2, depending on the outcome of the first flip? 21:59:47 That should be written (d2)d2 though, not as (d2)(d2) 22:01:09 Ah, and (d2)(d2) means flip two coins and multiply the results? 22:01:21 That makes sense. 22:01:22 I suppose so? 22:01:29 I should have written (d2)d(2) 22:02:16 So the meaning of dy/dx is apparent. 22:02:35 FurryScript does not currently support notations like that anyways; I will add them 22:03:18 Is there a meaning to 1.5d2? 22:04:59 <\oren\> uh oh, there's a mailstorm happening about email failures 22:05:57 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 22:05:59 a mailstrom? 22:06:21 <\oren\> yeah. people are replying to a giant mailing list 22:06:47 the joke is only about the proposed spelling 22:06:48 <\oren\> oh, the giant mailing list has been shut down. good 22:06:56 it's not very good, perhaps 22:07:09 but you're just dismissing it as not typed correctly, or what? 22:07:19 <\oren\> but the email system is still not working 22:07:36 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 22:09:38 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 22:11:06 -!- Froox has quit (Quit: *bubbles away*). 22:11:32 -!- Frooxius has joined. 22:11:44 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 22:14:07 -!- Froox has joined. 22:14:13 -!- Froox has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:14:37 -!- Froox has joined. 22:16:16 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 22:17:27 -!- Frooxius has joined. 22:19:41 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lowest/highest, and glitches). 23:13:36 -!- iconmaster has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:14:17 @dice 1d6 23:14:17 shachaf: 1 23:14:21 @dice (1d6)d6 23:14:21 unexpected 'd': expecting operator or end of input 23:14:35 <\oren\> @dice (1d6)+6 23:14:35 \oren\: 2 + 6 => 8 23:14:42 <\oren\> @dice 1d(1d6) 23:14:42 unexpected 'd': expecting digit, operator or end of input 23:15:22 -!- incomprehensibly has joined. 23:15:27 <\oren\> @dice 1d(1d(1d20)) 23:15:27 unexpected 'd': expecting digit, operator or end of input 23:16:02 <\oren\> @dice 1d(4+6) 23:16:02 unexpected 'd': expecting digit, operator or end of input 23:16:10 <\oren\> @dice 1d4 / 1d4 23:16:10 \oren\: 1 / 1 => 1 23:16:13 <\oren\> @dice 1d4 / 1d4 23:16:13 \oren\: 4 / 4 => 1 23:16:15 <\oren\> @dice 1d4 / 1d4 23:16:15 \oren\: 2 / 4 => 1/2 => 0.5 23:16:16 The skill generator already has some options (different costs per skill, different maximums, initial values, templated skills, dice in skills, cost increasing), but GURPS turns out to be more complicated than that, with mutually exclusive traits, limits that depend on other traits, and in some cases nonlinear costs. 23:16:22 <\oren\> @dice 1d100 / 1d100 23:16:23 \oren\: 3 / 89 => 3/89 => 3.3708e-2 23:17:01 <\oren\> @dice 100d100 / 100d100 23:17:01 \oren\: 5107 / 4790 => 5107/4790 => 1.0662 23:17:05 <\oren\> @dice 100d100 / 100d100 23:17:06 \oren\: 4697 / 4929 => 4697/4929 => 0.9529 23:17:09 <\oren\> @dice 100d100 / 100d100 23:17:09 \oren\: 4841 / 5280 => 4841/5280 => 0.9169 23:22:58 Version 13 with the new dice notation is now officially released and documented. 23:25:26 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 23:33:43 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 23:34:03 -!- moonythedwarf has changed nick to false. 23:34:17 -!- false has changed nick to False. 23:35:17 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:36:23 -!- Kaynato has joined. 23:38:47 <\oren\> Well, "treacherous" is right. 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