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01:19:00 <oerjan> @ask Taneb was it DWFO?
01:19:51 <oerjan> `learn DWFO is the Doctor Who Fan Orchestra.
01:19:55 <HackEgo> Learned 'dwfo': DWFO is the Doctor Who Fan Orchestra.
01:20:32 <oerjan> it happened to be announced today on a forum i know Taneb sometimes reads
01:53:21 <izabera> clang -Weverything enables the weirdest warnings
01:53:28 <izabera> warning: variable length array used [-Wvla]
01:53:38 <izabera> warning: format string is not a string literal [-Wformat-nonliteral]
01:54:09 <izabera> warnings about padding in structs
01:54:42 <izabera> how am i supposed to do these things? o.o
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02:01:29 <zzo38> Then enable only the warnings you will need.
02:04:40 <izabera> 1 real bug, 3 harmless-but-ok-lets-change-it bugs and about 180 bogus warnings
02:10:49 <zzo38> Then enable everything and then selectively disable the warnings that you don't want.
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02:21:39 <izabera> make -B CC=clang 'CFLAGS=-Weverything -O1 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wno-disabled-macro-expansion -Wno-missing-prototypes -Wno-padded -Wno-reserved-id-macro -Wno-date-time -Wno-shorten-64-to-32 -Wno-format-nonliteral -Wno-sign-conversion -Wno-vla -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-cast-qual -Wno-unused-macros'
02:23:04 <izabera> make -B CC=clang 'CFLAGS=-Weverything -O1 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wno-disabled-macro-expansion -Wno-missing-prototypes -Wno-padded -Wno-reserved-id-macro -Wno-date-time -Wno-shorten-64-to-32 -Wno-format-nonliteral -Wno-sign-conversion -Wno-vla -Wno-conversion -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-cast-qual -Wno-unused-macros -pedantic -std=c11'
02:24:07 <izabera> that kind of defeats the point of -Weverything -_-
02:26:11 <oerjan> izabera: i thought the point of -Weverything was to have an option that includes warnings which frequently give false positives; otherwise you use -Wall.
02:32:27 <izabera> it's funny because it also warns about stuff i didn't write
02:32:44 <izabera> e.g. glibc does this in stdio.h #define stderr stderr
02:33:05 <izabera> and -Wdisabled-macro-expansion warns because it's a recursive macro
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02:50:39 <zzo38> Why does glibc do that in stdio.h?
02:52:42 <pikhq> Because ISO C requires stderr to be a macro.
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03:29:36 <zzo38> Why is that, though? What exactly is caused by it being a macro in this way?
03:30:25 <zzo38> I can understand why it might say that it MAY be a macro, but I don't know why it should say that it MUST be a macro.
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03:54:04 <pikhq> My guess is some notable body of pre-ISO C code relied on it, and the ISO standard committee wanted to avoid breaking working code if at all possible.
03:54:30 <pikhq> (the latter isn't part of the guess, just explanation for why the former matters as rationale)
03:56:02 <pikhq> I will grant it's really dumb, but that's still what I'm guessing.
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04:18:09 * hppavilion[1] . o O ( If we want to specifically refer to a man who is married, could we say "Missus Consort"? )
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04:33:05 <zzo38> I think I might have seen vertical interval timecode signals on an old TV set that I no longer have. I did see they were some sort of time signal, and perhaps that is what it is.
04:33:27 <zzo38> (I only found the description on Wikipedia today. It was a long time ago that I saw it on TV, though.)
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05:06:21 <zzo38> Someone has told me some of my suggested optimizations for Z-code are extreme.
05:21:32 <\oren\> https://youtu.be/MpPSPQq7oas?t=3m38s
05:23:20 <\oren\> "You can't break this plane. You can land this plane on its fuselage, jack it up, put down the landing gear and then you can take off again."
05:58:39 <zzo38> Do you think this meaning code sharing is OK? http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/tavern.ui/raw/tavernc-parser.c?name=6156d70564da7cdfced7aa6cc25350dac895ea1b
05:59:37 <zzo38> (Search for "share_meanings")
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07:22:30 <hppavilion[1]> Went to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
07:25:43 <shachaf> You seem to have confused this IRC channel with Twitter.
07:25:51 <int-e> meh I just found this ViewPattern: (urlEncode -> query) ... and I don't like it.
07:26:21 <pikhq> My experience with Twitter is the only mode of interaction it has is retweets.
07:26:24 <pikhq> Nothing like IRC at all.
07:26:45 <shachaf> Perfect for this variety of joke, I think.
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07:27:29 <int-e> hmm, slightly surreal: http://sprunge.us/SIPH
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07:28:12 <shachaf> It's like Garfield minus Garfield.
07:28:34 <int-e> shachaf: it's elegant but a pattern match should not modify data... perhaps prepare it into something digestible... but to my mind url encoding is an important "effect" in some vague sense.
07:29:44 <shachaf> int-e: What about f s | let query = urlEncode s = ...?
07:29:48 <int-e> shachaf: I can see a few advantages (the non-URL-encoded thing isn't even in scope) so perhaps I'll grow to like the pattern.
07:30:06 <shachaf> I like the idea of not even naming a thing that you would only use once anyway.
07:53:01 <hppavilion[1]> When I see the sentence "Every farmer who owns a donkey beats it."
07:53:23 <hppavilion[1]> And I always end up interpreting it as "Every farmer who owns a donkey masturbates"
08:13:21 <hppavilion[1]> I'm looking at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_gays_should_not_be_allowed_to_edit_articles... and I think I got linked there from Uncyclopedia... but I don't actually see why it exists...
08:14:25 <hppavilion[1]> I thought the title was the /argumentum ad absurdum/ of various proposals, but that the content would be serious
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08:31:11 <myname> protip: if you want people to click on your links, do not add dots at the end of them
08:32:14 <myname> how did you find out it's humorous? because it is obvious pr because of the banner at the top telling so?
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08:54:21 <lambdabot> oerjan asked 7h 35m 20s ago: was it DWFO?
08:54:57 <Taneb> @tell oerjan It is not DWFO, it's one being organized by a couple of people in my uni called "STVN"
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08:59:46 <Taneb> @ask oerjan hth (shachaf told me to)
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09:25:32 <HackEgo> hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
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09:37:06 <hppavilion[1]> Your YouTube channel is "JeffersonAirplneVEVO", and the icon is just the default "J"
09:45:47 <int-e> Darn, no fireworks on Schlockmercenary today, just a huge teaser...
09:49:18 <Slereah> Haven't read that in like ten years
09:49:44 <Slereah> oerjan said 4d 9h 13m 51s ago: <Slereah> Is there a way to implement combinators using C# delegates without getting stack overflows <-- i suspect this is when you need a trampoline.
09:56:34 <shachaf> quoting people who use <-- is very confusing
09:56:43 <shachaf> though this is really a flaw in the <-- convention
10:01:27 <hppavilion[1]> shachaf: Why doesn't a second layer of <-- fix it?
10:03:53 <int-e> Hmm, I failed to come up a with a funny way of suggesting that hth stands for heads-tails-heads, a possible outcome from flipping three coins.
10:05:26 <shachaf> Fortunately the standards for wisdom/ are very low.
10:05:59 <int-e> "World Journal of Research and Review" ... who makes up the names of all those crap pay-for-publishing journals?
10:10:22 <int-e> `learn THT is short for tails-heads-tails, a possible outcome of flipping three coins. It's the opposite of HTH.
10:10:25 <HackEgo> Learned 'tht': THT is short for tails-heads-tails, a possible outcome of flipping three coins. It's the opposite of HTH.
10:11:11 <shachaf> What was that puzzle about what combination of three coin flips is more likely to come up first?
10:12:34 <int-e> something about HHH and TTT having a tendency to clump together
10:14:23 <int-e> So I'd expect to wait the longest for those two, followed by HTH and THT, followed by the other four that can't overlap with themselves. let me check the math...
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10:28:31 <int-e> And if I did that correctly, the expected values are 14 for HHH and TTT, 10 for HTH and THT, and 8 for the others.
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10:30:23 <FireFly> expected number of flips before they occur?
10:30:34 <int-e> for the first time, yes.
10:31:06 <int-e> it was a manual computation though, so feel free to verify the numbers yourself
10:36:08 <int-e> [from #haskell] "<Cooler> well don't you want IO to somehow capture the physical world?" ... in a cage, perhaps?
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11:02:02 * hppavilion[1] . o O ( Is clonecest (especially including gender-inverted clonecest) considered creepy? )
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11:52:13 <fizzie> Maybe you should stop doing it, if it causes earthquakes.
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12:07:17 <int-e> ouch I hope none of the punsters on here see this: http://www.mezzacotta.net/pomh/?comic=65
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12:37:12 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[Vitsy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49706&oldid=47284 * VTCAKAVSMoACE * (+280) Added infobox
12:42:55 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[User:VTCAKAVSMoACE]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49707 * VTCAKAVSMoACE * (+295) Creation
13:03:01 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[TRUE]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49708&oldid=37355 * LegionMammal978 * (+27)
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15:57:59 <int-e> `` cd wisdom; grep -r abelian .
15:58:14 <int-e> `` cd wisdom; grep -ri abelian .
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19:38:31 <zzo38> int-e: Then why do you write it on here?
19:43:52 <int-e> I do it for the irony
20:11:12 <HackEgo> int-e är inte svensk. Hen kommer att spränga solen. Hen står för sig själv.
20:12:36 <int-e> I may need help for that second part
20:16:44 <int-e> or perhaps I could claim that I succeeded billions of years ago
20:22:32 <\oren\> http://www.orenwatson.be/KSP/P_20160911_151408.jpg <- this is the shit
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20:57:23 <izalove> how do i set the license on github so that the api knows about it?
20:59:44 <izalove> ok there should be a license field in the reply
21:01:12 <izalove> it's in https://api.github.com/repos/username/reponame/license
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22:31:01 <zzo38> Do you have a scanned or retyped copy of the instructions on the envelope of a IBM flowcharting template?
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22:43:56 <_46bit> It would be fun to make an IRC channel where a bot with multiple nicks performans plays.
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