< 1472515653 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472515790 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* le me, reading the wikipedia page "Syllabary" < 1472515795 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Waaaaaait" < 1472515813 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A Syllabary is most commonly CV CV CV CV" < 1472515846 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sih-lah-bai-ree" < 1472515904 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice how all your vowels are diphtongues < 1472515906 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1472515915 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Ah, yes, true < 1472515945 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a dipthong could be allowed in a Syllabary; no reason it couldn't be < 1472515988 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IPA can spell "hay" in 2 symbols, even though it's h+(eh+ee) < 1472515990 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is so crazy < 1472516021 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in german, a, e, i, o and u are single sounds < 1472516032 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in english, only e is < 1472516035 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dafuq < 1472516048 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I want a Syllabary or Logogrammery or Abugida for English. < 1472516054 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, I'm not really sure < 1472516089 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're said in such a smoothly-chained way that, until I first read about "dipthongs", I didn't realize they were 2 sounds < 1472516119 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, a, e, i, o, and u all make several different noises, and some of them are dipthongs < 1472516155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think the best way to explain writing systems is through Batman, assuming the language is always English) < 1472516163 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alphabet: batman < 1472516180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abjad: btmn < 1472516200 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should add unvoiced vowels to wnglish, just because fuck you everybody < 1472516213 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah, I want to do that too < 1472516221 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've yet to find such thing as an unvoiced vowel < 1472516239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abugida: b,tm,n (or something, probably move the ,s to be more diacritical) < 1472516254 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can exactly pronounce one word with such thing < 1472516259 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that word is sushi < 1472516266 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the trailer for dead sushi < 1472516334 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Syllabary: Something like (with symbols in [brackets] being stacked vertically) [_o/][~o^] < 1472516348 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logography: Picture of batman < 1472516469 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abugida and syllabary, I guess < 1472516518 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, syllabary (the new one, not the old one) is more of an impure abjad < 1472516606 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472516738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadu < 1472516756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: If we were using a the Latin Abjad, your name would just be 'd' < 1472516758 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? IPA < 1472516760 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPA? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472516773 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/zmwgmt7wcv8 chom choms :D < 1472516778 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]! < 1472516813 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what I see: ¯\(°[ZWSP]_o)/¯ < 1472516876 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\([ZERO WIDTH SPACE])/¯ < 1472516909 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/^ ([ZERO WIDTH SPACE]) o/^ < 1472516918 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD: do you realize that your program is equivalent to ....(+)*-1 ? < 1472516925 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am tempted to actually use that word < 1472516927 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1472516941 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually just ...(+)*-1 < 1472517025 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The IPA (short for International Phonetic Abjad) is an international standard encoding all non-vowel sounds in all spoken languages, and is used to indicate the pronunciation of words. It is incredibly useful, unless you need to pronounce a word. < 1472517027 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ipa': The IPA (short for International Phonetic Abjad) is an international standard encoding all non-vowel sounds in all spoken languages, and is used to indicate the pronunciation of words. It is incredibly useful, unless you need to pronounce a word. < 1472517028 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chom chom mussins < 1472517097 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*muffins < 1472517109 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am too tired < 1472517129 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[note 1] on the wikipedia page for the IPA is "The acronym 'IPA' strictly refers [...] to the 'International Phonetic Association'. But it is now such a common practice to use the acronym also to refer to the alphabet itself (from the phrase 'International Phonetic Alphabet') that resistance seems pedantic. Context usually serves to disambiguate the two usages." < 1472517145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever wrote that clearly doesn't really get the IPA < 1472517182 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1472517184 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: why did you put a ZWSP in it again? < 1472517219 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472517226 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: I didn't, HackEgo does it automatically so that it doesn't alert people who are idling < 1472517242 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alert people... < 1472517248 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused < 1472517255 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472517334 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there something special about ZWSP that bypasses the rules of search? < 1472517441 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you saying there is a user named °_o and if you were to use that, then you would notify them, and so you use °[ZWSP]_o so that you don't wake them up? < 1472517445 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? adu < 1472517446 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know adu? Adu adu adu adu adu! < 1472517468 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Most peoples' clients beep when someone says their name < 1472517482 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya i know < 1472517490 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I keep prefacing my messages with 'adu: ', so you know that I just replied to you] < 1472517492 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine flashes the screen, but it's the same principle < 1472517498 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: but I'm still confused about the ZWSP < 1472517499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Yes, that counts too < 1472517530 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: The ZWSP prevents most clients from alerting the user < 1472517532 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472517543 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because usually when HackEgo says someone's name, it isn't actually talking to them < 1472517547 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: is there a user named "°_o"? < 1472517583 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: No, but HackEgo can't really tell who is and isn't a user, so it ZWSPs... everything, I guess < 1472517595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Does ZWSP prevent most clients from looking later in the message? < 1472517612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client beeps, the tray icon flashes until I open it, and the message is highlighted in green < 1472517612 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1472517617 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1472517629 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's test < 1472517629 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: But the [ZWSP] only appears one time per message? < 1472517635 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472517640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot that I can do things < 1472517640 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, every time you do the crazy eyes < 1472517650 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo "hppavilion[1]" < 1472517650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] < 1472517659 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see the crazy eyes, I only see "¯\(°[ZWSP]_o)/¯" < 1472517660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: One time per HackEgo message, I mean < 1472517674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It alerted me then < 1472517679 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try again with my client closed < 1472517680 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "hppavilion[1] "x2;' < 1472517680 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] < 1472517712 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print ("hppav"."ilion[1] ")x2;' < 1472517713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also got alerted there < 1472517713 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] < 1472517726 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1472517732 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my question has absolutely nothing to do with alerts, or username, my question is why is there a ZWSP in "¯\(°[ZWSP]_o)/¯"? < 1472517740 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print (("hppav"."ilion[1] ")x2);' < 1472517740 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, the thing meant to prevent me from being alerted doesn't work quite right on my client < 1472517742 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] hppavilion[1] < 1472517748 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, it highlights up to the ZWSP < 1472517753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Yeah, I'm not sure at this point < 1472517762 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh, didn't know -1 is infinite expansion < 1472517762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there ZWSPs in any other HackEgo messages? < 1472517770 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Is there a ZWSP here, adu? < 1472517771 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a ZWSP here, adu? < 1472517774 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: only the crazy eyes < 1472517777 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1472517779 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's a joke? < 1472517788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure then < 1472517798 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a typo (mistake) that everyone has been copy-pasting until the end of time < 1472517808 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had to guess who knew, it'd be oerjan, Taneb, or ais523 < 1472517816 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sdfghj < 1472517816 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdfghj? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472517827 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472517837 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does mine have a zwsp? < 1472517852 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me, that line looks like: sdfghj? "¯\(°[ZWSP]_o)/¯" < 1472517864 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: yes < 1472517880 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your line looks like <\oren\> ¯\(°[ZWSP]_o)/¯ < 1472517888 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, let me try to enter it manually < 1472517903 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is necessary to not compose stuff < 1472517924 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472517927 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1472517936 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '¯\(°​_o)/¯' | od -c < 1472517937 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 302 257 \ ( 302 260 342 200 213 _ o ) / 302 257 \n \ 0000020 < 1472517951 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo '¯\(°​_o)/¯' | xxd < 1472517952 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000: c2af 5c28 c2b0 e280 8b5f 6f29 2fc2 af0a ..\(....._o)/... < 1472517960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: In that case, it's either added by the server or by your client < 1472517969 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!zjoust sorry ->[]<(+)*-1 < 1472517971 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.sorry: points -11.86, score 16.31, rank 16/47 (--) < 1472517981 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode I don't see it on my end < 1472517982 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+0027 APOSTROPHE] [U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0073 LATIN SMALL LETTER S] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0065 LATIN SMALL LETTER E] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] [U+0074 LA < 1472517991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whops < 1472517993 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whoops < 1472517995 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\342"' < 1472517996 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(â < 1472518020 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472518020 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00AF MACRON] [U+005C REVERSE SOLIDUS] [U+0028 LEFT PARENTHESIS] [U+00B0 DEGREE SIGN] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+005F LOW LINE] [U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O] [U+0029 RIGHT PARENTHESIS] [U+002F SOLIDUS] [U+00AF MACRON] < 1472518022 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\342\200\213_o)/\302\257\n";' < 1472518023 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(​_o)/¯ < 1472518034 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. < 1472518042 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok why < 1472518047 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, so the ZWSP is built into the ¯\(°​_o)/¯- at least as copied from \oren\ < 1472518074 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and without it the degree sign doesn't show up < 1472518082 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Probably so the degree sign doesn't merge with the _ or something? < 1472518106 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess it's added by either the outgoing client or by the server (probably the former) < 1472518138 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The zero-width space is added to any HackEgo output that doesn't start with letters (for some definition of letter). < 1472518155 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, but it came from \oren\ too < 1472518164 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know where \oren\ got it < 1472518175 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it wasn't at the start < 1472518180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume e copied it symbol-by-symbol from a unicode page < 1472518185 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know about that. But when HackEgo does it, it's a botloop prevention thing -- bot trigger characters tend to be [^A-Za-z0-9]. < 1472518186 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besodes noodling, hackego does not change output < 1472518194 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaah < 1472518205 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo *i < 1472518205 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1472518206 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*i < 1472518211 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Did it appear there? < 1472518213 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\343\202\234_o)/\302\257\n";' < 1472518214 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(゜_o)/¯ < 1472518222 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now lets see without the ZWSP, what do YOU SEE? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472518233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's normal for me < 1472518243 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode > ​*i < 1472518243 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+003E GREATER-THAN SIGN] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+002A ASTERISK] [U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I] < 1472518249 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: The degree symbol is not a combiner < 1472518250 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Copy-pasted from the *i output.) < 1472518259 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you shouldn't have to combine it with anything < 1472518278 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do, then that's a bug in your OS < 1472518290 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1472518338 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: what do you mean it "doesn't show up?"? < 1472518350 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the zero-width space *inside* the face is to stop the old myndzi script from triggering. < 1472518351 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1472518364 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: when I do < 1472518369 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\342\200\213_o)/\302\257\n";' < 1472518369 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just so we wouldn't get the stick figure bodies for every non-existent wisdom. < 1472518370 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(​_o)/¯ < 1472518387 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see (_o) as the face < 1472518428 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\302\260_o)/\302\257\n";' < 1472518429 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472518435 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooo < 1472518441 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind < 1472518481 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(゚_o)/\302\257\n";' < 1472518482 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(゚_o)/¯ < 1472518514 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm I think ゚ fits better than ° < 1472518523 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Bah! Why not!? < 1472518557 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(゚_o)/¯ < 1472518576 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -e 'print "\302\257\134\050\302\260\342\200\213\137\157\051\057\302\257\012\n";' < 1472518579 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e 'print "\302\257\134\050\302\260\342\200\213\137\157\051\057\302\257\012\n";' < 1472518580 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472518584 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\134\050\302\260\342\200\213\137\157\051\057\302\257\012\n";' < 1472518585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472518588 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Ask oerjan, I guess: http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/fec2e65e53bc < 1472518607 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is perl doing < 1472518655 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -e 'print "\342\200\213"' < 1472518671 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\342\200\213"' < 1472518672 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​​ < 1472518689 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1472518689 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic said 7h 45m 8s ago: Thank You very much Dude, that was a quite helpful Message indeed! < 1472518718 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\302\257\\(\302\260_o)\302\257\012\n";' < 1472518719 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)¯ < 1472518721 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan hi < 1472518840 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: because having every nonexisting wisdom come with extra multiline noise got old _fast_ hth < 1472518945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf 'evning < 1472518965 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472518986 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472519008 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not see that one coming. < 1472519055 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472519056 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472519109 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472519111 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1472519139 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? + < 1472519139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, why don't we still have that?) < 1472519140 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472519147 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\0/ < 1472519156 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: protip: you can use ` with perl -e if you _don't_ quote the command hth < 1472519234 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472519240 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea < 1472519255 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine an esolang where you can define functions < 1472519271 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have lua varargs and tail call optimization < 1472519274 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing else < 1472519281 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you write complete programs with only that? < 1472519285 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: are you different from APic? you have different whois but i am getting a bit confused. < 1472519302 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I'm Soni... who's APic ? < 1472519317 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thankfully du isn't a picture format. i think.) < 1472519347 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APic: who are you twh < 1472519359 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems idle. < 1472519394 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: have you heard of lambda calculus or combinatory logic? < 1472519414 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or unlambda, an esolang based on the latter. < 1472519424 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the inspiration for the idea, kinda < 1472519452 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472519460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric hold em < 1472519464 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any lambda calculus with tracing JIT? < 1472519478 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like it'd be very efficient < 1472519482 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask me. < 1472519488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("there is no apostrophy in "em" because "em" in this case is the proper pronoun, not the quasislang term) < 1472519499 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/apostrophy/apostrophe/ < 1472519500 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just considering my experience with tracing JITs and tail calls and varargs < 1472519510 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(altho I guess lambda calculus doesn't have varargs...) < 1472519571 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do varargs in lambda calculus < 1472519596 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you need a way to pass the number of arguments. < 1472519628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, you can use a church numeral.) < 1472519668 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm that sounds hard to trace... < 1472519683 0 :APNG!soniex2@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll stick with luajit :/ < 1472519697 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Also, why don't we still have that?) <-- please clarify "that" hth < 1472519723 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the "old myndzi script" < 1472519730 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That adds bodies to stick figures < 1472519734 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds AWESOME < 1472519748 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like something that you should be kept far away from hth < 1472519778 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: very clever hth < 1472519778 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: ask myndzi < 1472519784 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thx < 1472519798 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hand < 1472519805 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: myndzi is a bot, isn't e? < 1472519814 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: nope < 1472519818 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472519822 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Hi? < 1472519844 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what e is, is 23 hours idle. sigh. < 1472519879 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( Face cards for King/Queen, as normal, plus Bishops, Knights, and Rooks ) < 1472519888 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no jack, I guess) < 1472519903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I've never really understood Jacks.) < 1472519908 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Who the hell is Jack?) < 1472519910 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472520021 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know his surname is Shit, and no one understands him. < 1472520030 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*know is < 1472520076 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of people seem to know him though < 1472520216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's the same kind of people who could care less. < 1472520675 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could care less. < 1472521188 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The suits in #esoteric hold em are, of course, Clovers, Clubs, Tiles, Diamonds, Amethysts, Aquamarines, Emeralds, Rubies, Sapphires, Moonstones, Sunstones, Opals, Topazes, Turquoises, Ambers, Ivories, Pearls, Hearts, Livers, Gallbladders, Pancreases, Stomachs, Small Intestines, Large Intestines, Bladders, Lungs, Kidneys, Spleens, Pikes, and Spades, plus the extra Tarot suit < 1472521214 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Double Fanucci is simpler. < 1472521236 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The original 15 suits (Mazes, Books, Rain, Bugs, Fromps, Inkblots, Scythes, Plungers, Faces, Time, Lamps, Hives, Ears, Zurfs, and Tops) each have eleven cards, valued at 0-9 and Infinity. The face cards are as follows: Granola, Death, Light, the Snail, Beauty, Time, the Grue, the Lobster, and the Jester." < 1472521258 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add Pentacles, Swords, Cups, and Wands too < 1472521317 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1472521498 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Also, you cannot play a king until we've figured out exactly who's king right now, as it's a very convoluted issue that we've been trying to figure out for at least 8 years < 1472521505 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fizzie < 1472521506 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is not fnord with a monad but the sneaky king of #esoteric, see https://zem.fi/static/img/square_fizzie_320px_white.jpg < 1472521564 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each Queen in the deck can be either a Queen Consort, Queen Regent, or Queen Regnant < 1472521607 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also need a Drama Queen hth < 1472521619 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so you have the French suits, Latin suits, and Fanucci suits, and also many others. < 1472521673 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although, Pentacles are really just a style variant for the suit of Coins; some tarot decks have pentagrams on the coins, but this is not a requirement.) < 1472521749 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes < 1472521763 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you know about differential geometry? < 1472521769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Drama Queen is in the same "Suit" (the "other suit") as Joker < 1472521817 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, Two-Face, Harley Quinn, Clayface, Man-Bat, and Killer Crock < 1472521820 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuxedo hth < 1472521828 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am not sure < 1472521830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sure? < 1472521840 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does differential geometry mean? < 1472521850 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping you would know. < 1472521858 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale told me there are no good books on it. < 1472521873 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, the Wands are really simply Rods. The kind of rods may differ between decks, so in some cases they are wands.) < 1472521897 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought spivak's books were recommended? not that i've read any. < 1472521918 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a Pawn card defeats a King, it becomes Lord Protectorate, which is /definitely/ not a King (but is really exactly the same in every way) < 1472521990 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Which ones? < 1472521995 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of game is that anyways? < 1472522014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the ones with pictures, i think. < 1472522015 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we had a game mixing up mahjong with shogi < 1472522024 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not _Calculus on Manifolds_? < 1472522031 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I did try to think of such thing at one time but I don't know how < 1472522033 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps? < 1472522046 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have that one. But it's not the one with pictures. < 1472522048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are asking me about something i've explicitly told i haven't read? < 1472522055 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1472522056 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you're thinking of https://www.amazon.com/Comprehensive-Introduction-Differential-Geometry-Vol/dp/0914098705 and so on. < 1472522064 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The earth revolves around the Sun, but only while it's waxing" < 1472522065 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBABLY < 1472522123 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: maybe the Pawn could also become General Secretary hth < 1472522142 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1472522173 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took a course which had some calculus on manifolds in it. IIRC I got a good mark in it. I don't really remember much of it though < 1472522190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Do you know Stokes' theorem? < 1472522214 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1472522216 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\ has been completely stoked < 1472522267 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgXObaM9i2Q ? < 1472522278 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says the integral of something over the boundary of a thingy it equal to the integral of the thing's derivative over the whole surface < 1472522294 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1472522306 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. What are these things? < 1472522327 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, the first thing is a differential form < 1472522337 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second thing is probably a manifold < 1472522339 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are those? < 1472522350 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I read to be an expert in differential forms? < 1472522393 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a differential form is basically a function < 1472522460 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's equipped with a thing that tells you which way the output is oriented < 1472522477 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472522511 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you have a f(x,y) -> (u,v) and you know the directions in which u and v are pointed you have a differential 2-form f < 1472522521 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472522572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472522727 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the derivative stokes theorem refers to, < 1472522747 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a thing thattells you not only the slope but which way the slope goes. < 1472522803 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1472522826 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if your function f(x,y) outputs only one thing u, then df outputs two things, the slope over x and the slope over y, at that point < 1472522909 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so then if you take the derivative of a 2-form f on a 3-manifold then you get a df that has six dimensions of output < 1472523075 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :effectiively stokes theorem implies, amog other things that if there's some net flux outward from an area, then that net flux has to originate somewhere in the area < 1472523186 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody ever made a system of serious government with "referee" as a position one can hold? < 1472523244 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net TOPIC #esoteric :Absurdly long attention span. We'd fill this with several dozen novels' worth of text, but Freenode can't handle it. | The string theory channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808 < 1472523404 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[2]: well norwegian doesn't have separate words for referee and judge, so... < 1472523414 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1472523424 0 :hppavilion[2]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that technically applies... < 1472523427 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1472523454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Am I supposed to register my backup nicks? I assume so, but I haven't yet) < 1472523487 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the NS GROUP command. < 1472523496 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: yes < 1472523520 0 :hppavilion[1]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[2] < 1472523540 0 :hppavilion[2]!?@? NICK :hppavilion[1] < 1472523570 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Absurdly long attention span. We'd fill this with several dozen novels' worth of text, but Freenode can't handle it. | The interdisciplinary string loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808 < 1472523658 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1472523671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Absurdly long attention span. We'd fill this with several dozen novels' worth of text, but Freenode can't handle it. | The interdisciplinary string loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1472523683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Venerarchy: The awesomer you are, the more power you have < 1472523686 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you already made it too long tdnh < 1472523691 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent < 1472523713 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audaciarchy: The most absurd policy automatically wins < 1472523731 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dogs now howl < 1472523742 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know wolves typically only bark when they are pups? < 1472523743 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google the dogs now howl < 1472523745 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.cesarsway.com/dog-behavior/barking-and-howling/why-do-dogs-howl < 1472523751 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mature wolves don't usually bark < 1472523755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Like cats meowing < 1472523759 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I just went and dug up my textbook. It's http://fourier.math.uoc.gr/~papadim/calculus_on_manifolds/Munkres.pdf < 1472523779 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but due to a spot of the neoteny, dogs never fully mature or something < 1472523780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A policy is proposed, and a time limit is set to propose alternatives. At the end of the time limit, the most audacious policy is approved) < 1472523787 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Any opinion on Munkres? < 1472523788 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As chosen by an impartial third party) < 1472523794 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: You said you hate everything. < 1472523823 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, for some reason it is online in full in that professor's home directory < 1472523843 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is that, eventually, equilibrium is reached- in order to get a policy you like more approved, you have to make it so ridiculous that it defeats the purpose < 1472523869 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("We set up a program to offer medical care to people who need it, but it is only available to married bachelors") < 1472523875 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's nice of him, many students can';t afford textbooks with the tuitions these days < 1472523893 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neotenarchy: The most childish people make all the decisions < 1472524300 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1472524301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mysterious reanimate œverlord kommisjonær immoritus oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a Precambrian Norwegian who mildly dislikes Roald Dahl with a pasjon. Lately when he tries to remember a word, "amortized" pops up. His arch-nemesis is Betty Crocker. He sometimes puns without noticing it. < 1472524323 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're extraordinary, so better be wary < 1472524461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Michael O'Leary appears to be the Irish Trump < 1472524516 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: In differential forms, d(dx) = 0, right? < 1472524572 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :laudarchy: A type of democracy where the winner is chosen via applause-o-meter < 1472524607 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should get a twitter account hth < 1472524962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitarchy < 1472525084 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've only heard of his topology text < 1472525095 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one is well-known. < 1472525299 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fourier.math.uoc.gr/~papadim/calculus_on_manifolds/Munkres.pdf -- skimming through this, it looks pretty decent actually < 1472525332 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, integrals and things are pretty magical. < 1472525349 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This might actually not suck, I'm surprised < 1472525367 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I already ordered Lee. < 1472525372 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'll try reading that. < 1472525423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The derivative of f is so constrained that its integral can be evaluated just by looking at the values of f at the boundary. < 1472525442 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there other things in maths that are like that? < 1472525483 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, complex analysis takes that kind of thing to an absurd level :) < 1472525493 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472525495 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I've heard that. < 1472525503 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn all about complex analysis too. < 1472525521 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I meant outside analysis. < 1472525541 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1472525717 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472525772 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my head, it's similar to the way that in an ordinary category, if you have a polygon which commutes, there's nothing to say about why. (Thinking of 1-categories as a special case of higher dimensional ones.) < 1472525812 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do mean? < 1472525825 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That you have equality rahter than isomorphism or something? < 1472525834 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that polygon is the boundary of something which is uniquely determined by it. < 1472525858 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't usually even talk about that thing, in classical category theory < 1472525871 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of the "witness" that the diagram commutes < 1472525916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is continuity related to naturality? < 1472525922 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1472525929 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How related? < 1472525964 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there's the sort of obvious thing that you can't change the behavior of a natural transformation or continuous function at just one point. < 1472525969 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the usual analogy is that categories are sort of like spaces, and functors are sort of like continuous maps between those spaces, and then natural transformations are like homotopies between continuous maps < 1472526009 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. But I don't think that's what I'm talking about. < 1472526018 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make functoriality correspond to naturality. < 1472526022 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, to continuity. < 1472526078 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for given F, G: C -> D, the natural transformations F -> G are the same thing as functors C x I -> D, where I is the category with two objects and one non-identity arrow: 0 -> 1. < 1472526098 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so natural transformations are like continuous maps of a particular sort < 1472526113 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe that's still not what you're after < 1472526166 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sorry, not just any functors of that type < 1472526181 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The European Cheek Kiss thing (henceforth ECK) is akin to a US hug < 1472526199 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functors H: C x I -> D for which H(-,0) = F, and H(-,1) = G < 1472526215 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in France, a US hug is about the same as a ECK is to Americans < 1472526254 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(henceforth ECK) < 1472526254 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At what longitude (and perhaps latitudes, if it isn't a perfect vertical line) do these switch? < 1472526275 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: >.< < 1472526283 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ECK < 1472526283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECK? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1472526285 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is it a hard switch, or is there a region of transition? < 1472526313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :During which ECK and hugs are equally acceptable or unacceptable (and which?) < 1472526314 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that region is called the Atlantic Ocean < 1472526335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: But even in international waters, it's weird near the US but not near Europe < 1472526361 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is there is a transition zone, and in the Northern hemisphere they're both acceptable whereas in the Southern hemisphere they're both weird < 1472526655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[July, 2026] "Good evening. Leading off tonight, a recent McGill University study finds that every Montreal resident between ages 16 and 60 has had sex with everyone else" < 1472527054 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless there aren't so many people in Montreal at that time, I would expect such a thing to be unlikely. < 1472527269 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472527640 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1472527661 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to live stream my desktop with VLC, but youtube isn't getting it < 1472528053 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hppavilion[1] you seem to be mistaking Europe for a country tdnh. ECKs aren't really acceptable in norway between nonrelated adults. < 1472528053 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1472528312 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We realized that we were looking at something that no one had ever seen in the wild before. Literally a click on a link to jailbreak an iPhone in one step" < 1472528316 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that what comex did? < 1472528326 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did jailbreakme require more than that? < 1472528569 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you guys see this https://gaming.youtube.com/user/0r3nw4750n/live < 1472528591 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm testing this stupid streaming thing < 1472528687 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I can barely see anything, so... < 1472528727 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit low resolution but yes < 1472528752 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can you hear my voice ok < 1472528756 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1472528773 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit lagged though < 1472528789 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both video and sound are behind. I was a bit confused at first < 1472528795 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good now I'm gonna try to get a game to run at the same time as the streaming thing < 1472528886 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I should try streaming Worms Armageddon at some point < 1472529312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472529408 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#Trump20000000000000000016 < 1472529419 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lud < 1472529420 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 22m 46s ago: you seem to be mistaking Europe for a country tdnh. ECKs aren't really acceptable in norway between nonrelated adults. < 1472529461 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh. But OTOH, they aren't really accepted between related adults either in the US, or at least they're a little weird < 1472529464 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and barely then, actually. < 1472529471 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nvm < 1472529493 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i thought you meant they were accepted in france (which i've also heard) < 1472529503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are < 1472529539 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely, you would use hugs for greeting in norway, and you'd want to be somewhat close even then. < 1472529556 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even have W:A installed! < 1472529560 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otherwise defaulting to handshake) < 1472529676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Norway is basically the US, except with happier people, better healthcare, public taxes, free university, and more singing ice queens. < 1472529682 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEP < 1472529690 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, ice queens? < 1472529696 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe we should give Minnesota back to Norway. < 1472529698 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may be slightly out of the loop there. < 1472529766 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess you might be referring to that frost thing. which is based on a danish tale, anyway.) < 1472529815 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: When did Norway own Minnesota? < 1472529820 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Frozen. It's called Frozen. < 1472529824 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literally? Never. < 1472529828 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1472529835 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: see, i'm out of the llop. < 1472529847 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In effect? Well, Minnesota is basically Norway only with English, fewer fjords, and more lakes. < 1472529847 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Did it ever pwn Minnesota? < 1472529856 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have been called than in norway. checking... < 1472529864 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Minnesota was largely settled by Norwegians) < 1472529868 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1472529878 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't seen it, anyway < 1472529890 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has read the fairy tale at one point < 1472529924 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@unaffiliated/digitalcold QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472529932 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, The Snow Queen does take place in Denmark (Daneland?) < 1472529961 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it starts there, it does have some travelling northward. < 1472529993 0 :digitalcold!~redacted@192.73.232.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472529997 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm pretty sure Frozen takes place in Norway (the appearance was based on going to Norway and looking around) < 1472530024 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure. < 1472530048 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much reindeer in denmark. < 1472530055 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, one of the big plot points is that SOMEBODY freezes the fjord < 1472530094 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472530131 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, well, a minor plot point that is mentioned by name once, and is really just a smaller-level symbol of the general badness happening) < 1472530231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has Trolls < 1472530273 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Numerous other typical cultural Scandinavian elements are also included in the film, such as [...] Fjord horses, clothes...." < 1472530282 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD IT HAS A MAYPOLE < 1472530305 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49673&oldid=49672 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+222) 10 < 1472530313 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The maypole isn't uniquely Scandinavian though. < 1472530413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND THAT'S, LIKE, 1 LEVENSHTEIN AWAY FROM 'MAPOLE' < 1472530440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(embarrassingly, I needed to find an online calculator for that) < 1472530479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07S.I.L.O.S14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49674&oldid=49673 5* 03Rjhunjhunwala 5* (+70) 10 < 1472530546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two men apparently bicker over whether wood should be stacked bark-up or bark-down < 1472530870 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472532692 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name of my Dungeons&Dragons character are Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe and Zeux Agem. Do you like these (two difference) way to make up the name of your character? < 1472533207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472533534 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472533543 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472533559 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472533564 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472533580 0 :hocktineg!~melvin@99-195-207-152.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472533647 0 :hocktineg!~melvin@99-195-207-152.dyn.centurytel.net PART #esoteric : < 1472533998 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: obviously, bark up < 1472534021 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that helps stop the wood from rotting if your tarp gets blown off < 1472534096 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: Or does it? < 1472534105 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm sorry, has Norway not invented science yet? < 1472534110 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To solve this issue efficiently? < 1472534145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, does \oren\ have eir IRC client set up so e can queue messages until someone comes back online?) < 1472534364 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is bark-up and bark-down a political thing? xD < 1472534448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like bark should be up so water can't get in, and so that water that does get in would- in theory- seep out the bottom (while if the bark was on the bottom, it would all pool there) < 1472534460 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But on the other hand < 1472534465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mumbles something about evaporation < 1472534716 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: No \oren\ just runs his irc client on a constantly-running web server, and is pretty much always online assuming he is awake < 1472534799 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence I just 1wait until people come back online, and then start typing < 1472534851 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh am I mixing up mirc codes with ansi codes again < 1472534884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wait until people come back < 1472536126 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472536685 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472536862 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472537443 0 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@82.144.205.57 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1472537768 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472538489 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ☬ < 1472538491 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+262C ADI SHAKTI \ UTF-8: e2 98 ac UTF-16BE: 262c Decimal: ☬ \ ☬ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) < 1472538514 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF, that is the sikh symbol... the name is completely wrong < 1472538663 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the symbol is called Adi Shakti in Sikhism. < 1472538685 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the sources I can find say it's called a Khanda < 1472538740 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakti appears to be a goddess < 1472538748 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from hinduism < 1472539100 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1472540803 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472540880 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4c99:e8f7:9f21:c0c8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472541154 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472541314 0 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472541766 0 :carado!~carado@2a01:e34:ec1e:2390:8341:b3f5:2d6:41fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1472543286 0 :Citrux!~Splintah@104.200.151.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472543305 0 :pelegreno!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472545007 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472551865 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472551916 0 :iaglium!~i@45.63.97.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472554632 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4c99:e8f7:9f21:c0c8 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472554790 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472554864 0 :augur!~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472554884 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:1867:85b6:26b4:6196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472554921 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:1867:85b6:26b4:6196 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472555470 0 :Citrux!~Splintah@104.200.151.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1472556189 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472556591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Qwerp-Derp 5* 10New user account < 1472557795 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472557796 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but//But is a Trintercal operator. < 1472557954 0 :kline!~kline@enucs/committee/kline QUIT :Changing host < 1472557954 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/euncs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1472558040 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/euncs.kline QUIT :Changing host < 1472558040 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1472559171 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472559511 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472559531 0 :MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-97-58.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472560126 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: LIMESTONE CHICKEN < 1472561692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:ℒight14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49675 5* 03TuxCrafting 5* (+3) 10Created page with "wat" < 1472561998 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472562247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@93-231-58-66.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472562671 0 :Trey13!~Trey13@2602:306:cf8d:6060:f5d3:10e7:eacc:6fee JOIN :#esoteric < 1472563159 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472563166 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472563362 0 :Trey13!~Trey13@2602:306:cf8d:6060:f5d3:10e7:eacc:6fee QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472564323 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472564917 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNG: I'm confident that lua ia Turing complete < 1472566113 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1472566164 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472566792 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472566891 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1472567337 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1472567397 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Questionable Content is copying the idea from qwantz that you can read tomorrow's strip today if you subscribe. < 1472567789 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472567889 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472571033 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472571830 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that would lead to problems every time there's a cliffhanger < 1472573268 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1050 < 1472573269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1050: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1472573291 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1472573308 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why? subscribed people experience the same comic, just shifted about a day in time < 1472573418 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the issue is if subscribed people comment on say, twitter about it < 1472573486 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472573558 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are those? < 1472573863 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: maybe < 1472573908 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: that's absolutely not a problem with qwantz, and probably not much a problem with Questionable Content, since it rarely has cliffhangers that are suddenly resolved in a strip. < 1472574245 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess who just moved arin.ga to a new host < 1472574329 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gawd i broke it < 1472574427 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472574478 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fixed it < 1472574508 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i broke it again -.- < 1472574798 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to diagnose website failures with all the caching that goes on < 1472574827 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a cacheless mode for firefox < 1472574917 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead you have to know to hold shift while pressing the reload button < 1472575224 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you can disable using firefox's cache at least, with the developer tools (or with certain plugins) < 1472575248 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the server or proxy it contacts might still be doing some caching) < 1472575485 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@193.190.253.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1472575978 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033\133\062\111foobar";' < 1472575979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472575990 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033\133\062\101foobar";' < 1472575990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472576018 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[31mfoobar";' < 1472576018 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472576028 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[3Afoobar";' < 1472576028 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472576061 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[2Jfoobar";' < 1472576062 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472576103 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so irssi at least doesn't let ansi sequences go through and mess up people's terminals < 1472576144 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\tfoobar";' < 1472576144 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ foobar < 1472576240 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :all fixed woohoooo \o/ < 1472576394 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I think that might be replaced HackEgo-side maybe < 1472576464 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not? hm < 1472576902 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1472577013 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[3mfoobar";' < 1472577013 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577028 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[2mfoobar";' < 1472577029 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577038 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[4mfoobar";' < 1472577039 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577042 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[5mfoobar";' < 1472577043 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577062 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, irssi supports blink but not underline? < 1472577083 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I see the underline < 1472577086 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no blinking < 1472577106 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's apple terminal < 1472577108 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm surprised HackEgo doesn't filter out \033 < 1472577118 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :weechat seems to render the \x1B as '?' < 1472577182 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[6mfoobar";' < 1472577183 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577191 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[7mfoobar";' < 1472577191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577196 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse video < 1472577212 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[9mfoobar";' < 1472577212 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577218 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi by default supports these escapes too, in addition to IRC formatting < 1472577247 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[92mfoobar";' < 1472577247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577254 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[102mfoobar";' < 1472577254 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577260 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no bright colors < 1472577262 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "\x02Bold test\x02"" < 1472577264 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1472577268 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "\x02Bold test\x02" < 1472577269 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Bold test < 1472577277 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that doesn't get filtered out either < 1472577291 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: but that's a mirc escape < 1472577295 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[1mfoobar";' < 1472577296 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577311 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "Really important" < 1472577312 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Really important < 1472577341 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some clients render inverse video as italics < 1472577351 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see reverse video with underline < 1472577381 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\033[4mfoobar";' < 1472577381 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577385 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn < 1472577388 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t work < 1472577397 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I think HackEgo only handles those three bytes specially that can't appear in an irc message protocol-wise. < 1472577407 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1472577423 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it'll filter out \x01 ? < 1472577430 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\x01foobar";' < 1472577431 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.foobar < 1472577438 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :other bots differ, eg. jevalbot doesn't let you print colored stuff < 1472577453 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: no, \x01 is only a client convention < 1472577455 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the easy solution is to filter out all control characters < 1472577459 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\tfoobar";' < 1472577459 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ foobar < 1472577468 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a reverse video I < 1472577475 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It did filter \x01 out though < 1472577502 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: did it? < 1472577508 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't looked at the raw stuff < 1472577521 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It replaced it with a . < 1472577523 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I misremembered then. does it also change \x10 ? < 1472577551 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does \x10 do? < 1472577581 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\20foobar";' < 1472577581 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577606 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1472577615 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a reverse video P < 1472577633 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: That's how irssi displays ^P < 1472577642 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\x10foobar";' < 1472577642 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​foobar < 1472577651 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\x10 == \20 < 1472577660 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fewer characters < 1472577662 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, seems HackEgo doesn't filter it out < 1472577691 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\x0A will definitely be treated specially < 1472577734 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "foo\x01bar";' < 1472577735 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.bar < 1472577740 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that is to prevent CTCPs < 1472577749 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "foo\12bar";' < 1472577750 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo \ bar < 1472577782 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: isn't the ctcp already prevented by the prefix it puts at the start of the message? < 1472577800 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What prefix? < 1472577809 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessarily. if you go ""by the spec"", CTCPs are supposed to be allowed anywhere in a PRIVMSG < 1472577816 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and even multiple times) < 1472577816 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print "\200";' < 1472577817 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​€ < 1472577833 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it prefixes lines with a ZWSP I believe < 1472577834 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone actually care about that spec? < 1472577838 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1472577840 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1472577844 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some weird clients do, I think < 1472577881 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Lemme look at my logs < 1472577888 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prefix \xE3\x80\x8B < 1472577930 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print"\xE3\x80\x8B"' | od -c < 1472577931 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 343 200 213 \ 0000003 < 1472577992 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's so many stupid specs. I care about what the servers actually do (which isn't very well documented, so the best way to find out is asking on the #freenode channel and TIAS) and what other people usually send through their client < 1472578048 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I don't see the ZWSP looking at my logs with a hex editor < 1472578062 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc -e '8i20o30013p' < 1472578063 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :300B < 1472578076 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode 300B < 1472578078 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 300B < 1472578079 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​》 < 1472578087 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1472578128 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print"\xE2\x80\x8B"' | od -c < 1472578128 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 342 200 213 \ 0000003 < 1472578135 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc -e '8i20o20013p' < 1472578136 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :200B < 1472578142 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 200B < 1472578143 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​​ < 1472578164 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 200B < 1472578164 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0032 DIGIT TWO] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+0042 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B] < 1472578176 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` perl -e 'print"\xE2\x80\x8B"' | unidecode < 1472578177 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1472578177 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: hm yeah, I dunno < 1472578183 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I misremember < 1472578198 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it only adds that prefix in some cases, or something < 1472578201 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode `perl -e 'print"\xE2\x80\x8B"'` < 1472578201 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] < 1472578206 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1472578222 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I've checked the rawlog, no prefix there either < 1472578232 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I can't see any either when I look < 1472578233 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally translated ​ into the prefix < 1472578252 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a zeero width space, it's invisible < 1472578271 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try setting your broswer to windows 1252 < 1472578289 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should see ​ in front of every hackego message < 1472578292 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472578309 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I'm not using a web browser to look at IRC < 1472578312 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at the logs < 1472578351 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess I could open the logs in Firefox, won't change anything though < 1472578386 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will if you go to view->encoding->western(1252) < 1472578413 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's bizzarre < 1472578418 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why didn't it show up in the hex editor? < 1472578423 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will allow you to see the raw bytes, with the encoding as seen here http://www.orenwatson.be/cp1252.htm < 1472578448 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1472578453 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it does prefix only certain messages < 1472578507 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\tfoobar got prefixed < 1472578512 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.bar didn't get prefixed < 1472578532 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: It's not in front of every hackego message, only a few of them < 1472578653 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1472578838 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird, maybe just ones that contain a possible bot prefix at the start? < 1472578876 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: All the ones starting with control characters had it at the start < 1472578995 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allowing CTCPs anywhere in a message is something that my client does. < 1472579053 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472579127 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: one of the better pages on CTCP that I've found is http://www.kvirc.net/doc/doc_ctcp_handling.html < 1472579973 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1472581127 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let's see if this works < 1472581139 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472581157 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it doesn't < 1472581306 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, it doesn't for me, because the script is running on my irssi < 1472581311 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1472581330 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472581410 0 :Zarutian_!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472581410 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472581411 0 :Zarutian_!?@? NICK :Zarutian < 1472581736 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, I'll learn how to make bots later < 1472582649 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472583396 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472583399 0 :FireFly!~firefly@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1472585187 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.cwru.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472585338 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: hipumpkin < 1472585513 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472585704 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... I need to figure out how to respond to messages. < 1472585882 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$/ automatically./ < 1472585960 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586508 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1472586632 0 :puck1pedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586688 0 :puckipedia!~puck@irc.puckipedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586688 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586688 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586688 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586695 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586724 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586724 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586724 0 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1472586727 0 :puck1pedia!?@? NICK :puckipedia < 1472586736 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586738 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :New rule: You use two spaces after a period, but one of them has to be zero-width < 1472586777 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what for < 1472586793 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586803 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472586838 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two halfwidth spaces is better. < 1472586863 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither makes any sense < 1472587048 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1472587133 0 :kline!~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline JOIN :#esoteric < 1472587440 0 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1472587465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1472587480 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1472587516 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472587575 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472587581 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472587593 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472587624 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472587636 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1472587664 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472587701 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:79e1:f5d4:a0ce:5ddd JOIN :#esoteric < 1472588345 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472588353 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472588353 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472588362 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1472588368 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. < 1472588374 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the pong first < 1472588386 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, beacuse of latency. lol < 1472588472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1472588912 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ISO 2022 code with ESC % should be define for use with UTCE. Even if selected, other DEC 7-bit codes should remain available as done in the terminal emulator that it is implemented in, such as VT100 character graphic shift outs and some of the other ISO 2022 codes that are supported by DEC terminals. < 1472589008 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472589008 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472589014 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1472589019 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it would need to be register according to ISO 2375, but I don't know how that is working. < 1472589029 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472589029 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472589034 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1472589045 0 :orentesting!cebf7d05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.191.125.5 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1472589053 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless03.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1472589355 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1472589420 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now I'll just add the actualy features I wanted < 1472589547 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1472590456 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472590493 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.sorry: points -12.02, score 15.84, rank 16/47 (--) < 1472590503 0 :kaoD!502486b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.36.134.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooops < 1472590521 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.sorry: points -12.07, score 16.16, rank 16/47 (--) < 1472590592 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc 3 200 terrier < 1472590592 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δv = 0 < 1472590602 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope not working < 1472590607 0 :zemhill__!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaoD.sorry: points -11.86, score 16.31, rank 16/47 (--) < 1472590621 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1472590717 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc 3 200 terrier < 1472590717 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δv = 4559.10340786059 < 1472590726 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool < 1472590730 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's working < 1472590949 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@74-114-87-94.dynamic.asdk12.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472591213 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray, I turned my delta v perl script into a irssi bot thingy < 1472592069 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc 11.70 720 poodle < 1472592069 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δv = 3945.4217824427 < 1472592130 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc 16.12 720 poodle < 1472592130 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δv = 2351.07486307313 < 1472592997 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1472593217 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1472593366 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:79e1:f5d4:a0ce:5ddd QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1472593500 0 :Nomn!~Nomn@105.107.115.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472593699 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472594152 0 :Cale!~cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472594815 0 :augur!~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:89d4:4fd8:ce9d:7f18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1472595094 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472595107 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1472595626 0 :moonythedwarf!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1472596591 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1472596891 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4bf3b.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1472597657 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472598220 0 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1472598484 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472598762 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472598893 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :konboilyha! < 1472598973 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now a bot! with two commands: ❄ping and ❄dvcalc. < 1472599203 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured that ❄ would never be taken as a bot prefix < 1472599210 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄help < 1472599227 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: oh, I should add that < 1472599234 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :.win 69 < 1472599278 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472599278 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599283 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1472599319 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took some work to get it to do it when *I* say ❄ping though < 1472599320 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame I have to copy & paste "❄" < 1472599365 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DHeadshot: once you've done it once though, you can just push up < 1472599382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping see < 1472599382 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599459 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄dvcalc < 1472599459 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does math for Δv of a vessel. Usage: dvcalc []; fuel types: lfo, olf, lf/nuk, xen, mono. If omitted, assumed to be lfo or the engine's type. < 1472599527 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping - so it works with arguments? < 1472599527 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599580 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but ping doesn't actually look at them < 1472599594 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1472599618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472599619 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599620 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping < 1472599620 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599637 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :こんぼれんは! < 1472599660 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :allôrcah! < 1472599671 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DHellodshellot! < 1472599677 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :❄ping http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHDmdpsNdlc < 1472599677 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1472599779 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason none of the bot scripts I could find examples of were designed so that the bot can respond to itself < 1472599800 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they thought that was a bad idea for some reason < 1472599846 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's for safety, so I can't put "❄dvcalc ❄ping" or something < 1472599865 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't want recursion... < 1472599884 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the otput of dvcalc is just a number < 1472599911 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what I mean though < 1472599913 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of m/s your vessel has left before Jebediah is stranded in space < 1472599916 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: You can write a "with" composition function too, can't you? < 1472600011 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Ah, https://docs.python.org/2/library/contextlib.html < 1472600012 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your own outgoing messages are protocolistically quite different from others' incoming messages. < 1472600040 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: why is it dvcalc and not Δvcalc? < 1472600057 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DHeadshot: yeah, so I'll make sure that if I add a thing that can output arbitrarystuff that there is some sort of preventer thingy < 1472600077 0 :Nomn!~Nomn@105.107.115.116 PART #esoteric : < 1472600095 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, so I had to essentially write two handlers that eventually call the actual bot thingy < 1472600096 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: ..."Developers that need to support nesting of a variable number of context managers can either use the warnings module to suppress the DeprecationWarning raised by this function or else use this function as a model for an application specific implementation." < 1472600121 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1472600145 0 :DHeadshot_!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1472600148 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alercah: better not to have more than one character that needs to be copypasted < 1472600159 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: you lack gusto < 1472600159 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1472600416 0 :DHeadshot_!?@? NICK :DHeadshot < 1472600660 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1472600662 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question//The The Question is the fundamental mystery of #esoteric, and boily is its master. < 1472600696 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so? < 1472600709 0 :DHeadshot!~DHeadshot@cpc88301-woki8-2-0-cust688.6-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1472600725 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. looks like it. < 1472600804 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@casewireless09.CWRU.Edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1472601293 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric