< 1471133155 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471133713 0 :moonythedwarf_!?@? NICK :moon_ < 1471134176 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1471135226 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471135793 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471136167 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1471136257 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471136271 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar CYUL < 1471136271 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 132342Z 04010G30KT 280V060 4SM R06L/3000VP6000FT/D R06R/3500VP6000FT/D RA BR FEW005 BKN024 OVC040 20/19 A2975 RMK SF2SC5NS1 PRESFR SLP076 DENSITY ALT 800FT < 1471136287 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN! < 1471136303 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coily! < 1471136325 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what to do with a saturday night? < 1471136330 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellopia. hellonolongerboilyng. < 1471136348 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar KBOS < 1471136349 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :KBOS 132354Z 06008KT 7SM OVC007 21/19 A2991 RMK AO2 SLP129 60000 T02060189 10228 20200 55004 < 1471136356 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA < 1471136356 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 132350Z 31005KT 9999 FEW026 SCT052 10/07 Q1011 RMK WIND 670FT 28011KT < 1471136357 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was surprisingly humane today. < 1471136368 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1471136368 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj said 1h 45m 17s ago: Yes, overthinking is something I am proud of. < 1471136373 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can't confirm that. it could be boiling rain < 1471136387 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i looked at the temperature hth < 1471136402 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: found you < 1471136406 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boo! < 1471136418 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was hoping to scare oerjan
< 1471136421 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the thermometer could be inside a box, protected from the boiling water? < 1471136446 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll have to check again in a few minutes to be sure < 1471136512 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think you're confusing this with the alderaan forecast hth < 1471136532 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan! nolongerboily? < 1471136558 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamellomanj. did you know that oerjan is unscarable hth < 1471136561 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily_ng_ hth < 1471136570 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilyng??? < 1471136579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um is unscarable the same as unscareable < 1471136583 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily-ng. A more refined boily for a better age. < 1471136585 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! eating is a good activity. < 1471136607 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Brought to you by the developers of aircrack-ng, presumably.) < 1471136641 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: whats for supper? < 1471136645 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION munches on edible stuff. *munch* *munch* *munch*
< 1471136652 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"edible stuff" < 1471136663 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this stuff green biscuits? < 1471136678 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :leftovers from lunch. rice, beef, tofu and zucchini, bean sprouts and carrots. < 1471136683 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1471136691 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the only green part is zucchinal hth < 1471136704 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a bag of hot wings flavored pretzels. so...yeah < 1471136708 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what? < 1471136720 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is neither unscareable nor unscarable, but if you have to test either i prefer the former hth hth
< 1471136721 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still eating ^^ < 1471136727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1471136753 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wiktionary doesn't think scarable exists. < 1471136758 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unscarable doesn't sound like a real word < 1471136765 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym unscarrable < 1471136784 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unscrabble. < 1471136788 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unscorable < 1471136830 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's it! that's the ticket! but i probably would pwn you at english scrabble, and you'd wipe the floor with me in french < 1471136851 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471136858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also fail to find any real uses of "scarable" because they're swamped by either dictionary SEO or typos < 1471136877 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or perhaps no one's ever used it) < 1471136899 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an #esoteric hapax legemenon! < 1471136903 0 :augur!~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471136916 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: An un-scarab. < 1471136945 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh, i guess the real word would be spelt unscarrable. checking... < 1471136962 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unscrabble. < 1471136980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like scrabble, but you have to make anything that isn't a word in any language in the universe. < 1471136991 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes it excessively difficult. < 1471137014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarrable gives at least one genuine hit, although wiktionary still doesn't know it. < 1471137057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically the hit was "un-scarrable" < 1471137069 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah it's easy. you just invent an alphabet on the spot, assign to them sounds that are extremely difficult to make (e.g. the sound of a baby eating a puppy as they are torn about by tidal forces inside a black hole), and string them together randomly < 1471137205 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You also have to map these to English letters for reasons which should hopefully be obvious if you've ever seen a Scrabble set. < 1471137274 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: whoever said unscrabble involved a scrabble set? < 1471137280 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : itym unscarrable <-- damn i did it again. < 1471137284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I guess nobody. < 1471137293 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you need is a chess set. < 1471137300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1471137316 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : boily: that's it! that's the ticket! but i probably would pwn you at english scrabble, and you'd wipe the floor with me in french <-- norwegian hth < 1471137354 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, *legomenon. < 1471137362 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: both of us cheating with a dictionary takes all the fun out of it < 1471137383 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION only knows that word because of narbonic.
< 1471137405 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I play Scrabble I always do both player will use the Scrabble dictionary < 1471137420 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION .oO(it seems to take oerjan about 10 seconds per line to logread)
< 1471137427 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time limits could help too though < 1471137428 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a nodejs sandbox for my bot, and its pretty strong, i was wondering if you guys would help me find some exploits so i can try to patch them < 1471137440 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION .oO( speech bubbles! cool! )
< 1471137479 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a thought bubble. we don't need speech bubbles since we aren't being drawn into boxes on the chat, so every other text is assumed to be speech < 1471137516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks zzo38 could design a chess game isomorphic to scrabble. probably.
< 1471137569 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone could... < 1471137575 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: my backscroll reading may not always be chronological hth < 1471137592 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you seem to comment on it in chronological order tho < 1471137608 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1471137656 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i mean is that sometimes, i only go back because i realize i had been skipping stuff. < 1471137680 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: You would have to be careful if you want to make a Node.js sandbox properly secure. One thing to do is to ensure that the prototype of the sandbox object is null, and don't put any other objects from the outside into the sandbox. < 1471137715 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But this can make it difficult to do anything meaningful, so you figure it out.....) < 1471137727 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if anyone's ever made an irc client that uses speech bubbles
< 1471137751 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft has < 1471137752 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think Microsoft Comic Chat might? I don't know though < 1471137775 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Quit: See ya later, [INSERT_NAME_HERE] < 1471137784 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep looks like it < 1471137796 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471137802 0 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-120-181.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it crashes with common IRC servers (e.g. freenode), but puckipedia has a proxy to work around it < 1471137858 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1471137923 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if possibly the V8 debugging interface might be usable for making a Node.js sandbox < 1471137955 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing an extension in C++ might also help, if you know how to do that < 1471138233 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I don't know if it works, because I have not tried, is to create function outside of the sandbox, and then a function inside the sandbox wraps it (perhaps create a function that takes a function and returns a function, and call it) and passes only primitives between the inside and outside. < 1471138371 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1471138382 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running sandboxed scripts in a separate process is also something that has been suggested, so you can also try that. < 1471138719 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471138748 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471139258 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is still camped in here eh < 1471139287 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives boily a tent
< 1471139621 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wraps himself in the tent
< 1471140073 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that was gamemanj's intent < 1471140118 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't mind. < 1471140141 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :off to night coma! < 1471140149 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: GARTERBELT CHICKEN < 1471140206 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily and his chickens < 1471140449 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one was particularly attractive < 1471140473 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at quintopia suspiciously
< 1471140496 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also looks at quintopia suspiciously
< 1471140517 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*writes "if oerjan looks at someone suspiciously, there's usually a reason." into book*) < 1471140528 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :truthy < 1471140572 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe quintopia was referring to night coma < 1471140598 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dubious hth < 1471140664 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there's an obvious solution to that < 1471140681 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: define "this one" in your message, "this one was particularly attractive" < 1471140762 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The supercogitating channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1471140906 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :unattractive chickens don't wear garterbelts hth < 1471141113 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION underlines the line about oerjan's suspicions usually being correct
< 1471141136 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION then adds an additional note in the margin: "c.KTW/SJ-night"
< 1471141297 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at gamemanj's note suspiciously
< 1471141666 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the fastest way to find the smallest power of 2 greater than x? < 1471141762 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends what you're implementing it in. < 1471141763 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, would it be faster to try right shift it until i get zero? or it with a left-shifted 1 til zero? god help if its actually do a log? < 1471141776 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say cython < 1471141779 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1471141787 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A shift will do it. If it does it fast, is another thing entirely. < 1471141799 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically the "fastest" implementation would be dependent on value size. < 1471141823 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you had 256 values, you may - or may not - find that an array is faster than doing the calculations. < 1471141824 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently python has a .bit_length() < 1471141825 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1471141851 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't we already establish on a previous occasion that processors have specific instructions for this hth < 1471141881 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know why, it's a rare - and not that slow - operation... < 1471141884 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you didn't invite me???? < 1471141927 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: well it may be useful in code that needs to be particularly fast < 1471141942 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but why would someone need that operation? < 1471141953 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471141962 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: to implement bigints, say < 1471141980 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please look at information relating to TAVERN VM and tell me if it is any good and other comment such as if there is any mistake or unclear. Do you think that 32K cells (each cell stores a signed 16-bit number) is sufficient for the program code for a text adventure game and other arbitrary read-only data? (RAM, vocabulary, and most text, would be stored in separate address spaces) < 1471141980 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potentially. On the other hand, how do you feed in the number to this operation? < 1471141984 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to know what's the first bit you need to start working at < 1471142020 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Worst case scenario, you can cheat the system, especially if the program code can read from text/vocab memory. < 1471142034 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Like, write a brainfuck interpreter in program memory, < 1471142055 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: then put your *actual program* into a different address space. < 1471142092 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program code cannot read anything from text or vocab memory; it can read and write RAM, although RAM is also limited to 32K cells. < 1471142196 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding an extension that would act like Z-machine's DIROUT 3 would allow reading from text memory, although another possible extension would just to allow reading text memory directly, which would be simpler and faster. < 1471142246 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Text memory is also limited to 32K cells, although the text is packed, and the text memory is also bankswitched, so you can store a lot of data in there.) < 1471142349 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding a feature code and instruction opcode for TXT@ would allow to read the text memory; we can add this idea into the bug tracker or wiki. < 1471142364 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does text packing work? my best guess was always just "limiting text to a narrow range of ascii so that some bits can be discarded from each character" < 1471142402 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at the documentation if you want to know its working. < 1471142516 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vocabulary packing does limit text to a narrow range of ASCII though; the VOCAB.BIN lump maps vocabulary words to signed 16-bit numbers (any word not listed has a value of zero). < 1471142753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471143684 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471143946 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471144384 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1471145045 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any known people have a finite Erdos-Shusaku-Morley-Bacon number? < 1471145078 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are shusaku and morley again < 1471145088 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Go and Chess < 1471145139 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hm, would the existence of a Go-playing AI that plays against Shusaku make anyone able to have a Shusaku number of 1?) < 1471145252 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you do that when he's been dead over a century twh < 1471145341 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: is this another one of those voight-kampff test questions < 1471145376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: See, I was afraid someone would say that < 1471145381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1471145417 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1471145437 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1471145442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tomfoolery twh < 1471145444 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking. < 1471145532 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I couldn't help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in full detail it will turn out that overthinking is often not helpful and therefore, not something to be proud of. < 1471145537 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1286) I couldn't help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in full detail it will turn out that overthinking is often not helpful and therefore, not something to be proud of. < 1471145825 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask myname there is a petition in germany to give an equal amount of male and female names to potatoes ... <-- does that include spelling it as Kartoffel/innen twh < 1471145825 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1471145877 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with overthinking < 1471145907 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gamemanj < 1471145911 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. < 1471145932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn_append gamemanj He will overthink everything except whether overthinking is wrong. < 1471145938 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'gamemanj': gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. He will overthink everything except whether overthinking is wrong. < 1471145955 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471145977 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd gamemanj sb exb, exb < 1471145979 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: sled file//script < 1471145985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd gamemanj//sb exb, exb < 1471145990 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/gamemanj//gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. He will overthink everything, except whether overthinking is wrong. < 1471146001 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...go on, explain what you are doing < 1471146013 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am amending your wisdom entry hth < 1471146042 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an interesting method of adding one comma... < 1471146129 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the alternative would be copy/pasting < 1471146148 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of wondering how "sb exb, exb" works < 1471146164 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it's actually an esoteric language, like a cyclic tag system or something < 1471146182 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is that sed's s command allows almost any delimiter character, in this case b < 1471146208 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1471146216 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets out his TODO list
< 1471146248 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION writes "Send patch to maxpowa/Inumuta so that it interprets everything beginning with 's' as a replacement. This, of course, is simply a side effect of proper interpretation."
< 1471146262 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1471146288 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font now has playing cards! < 1471146290 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🂠🂡🂢🂣🂤🂥🂦🂧🂨🂩🂪🂫🂬🂭🂮🂱🂲🂳🂴🂵🂶🂷🂸🂹🂺🂻🂼🂽🂾 < 1471146294 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🃁🃂🃃🃄🃅🃆🃇🃈🃉🃊🃋🃌🃍🃎🃏🃑🃒🃓🃔🃕🃖🃗🃘🃙🃚🃛🃜🃝🃞🃟 < 1471146300 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay!!!! < 1471146311 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :🃑 < 1471146315 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which card is this < 1471146321 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ace of clubs < 1471146337 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I'm not good with cards. < 1471146345 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was what I meant to copy: 🂡 < 1471146373 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: hm i guess i forgot to ask whether you want to be assumed male, but since you didn't protest i assume that's all right. < 1471146412 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471146431 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION might be overthinking that.
< 1471146453 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I try to catch myself when I make assumptions too (though if someone else uses a gender pronoun in reference to someone, I'll base any further communications on that) < 1471146464 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also added a bunch of those crazy Shift-JIS characters < 1471146523 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㋌㋍㋎㋏㎙㎚㎛㎜㎝㎞㎟ < 1471146523 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎠㎡㎢㎣㎤㎥㎦㎧㎨㎩㎪㎫㎬㎭㎮㎯㎰㎱㎲㎳㎴㎵㎶㎷㎸㎹㎺㎻㎼㎽㎾㎿ < 1471146526 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㏀㏁㏂㏃㏄㏅㏆㏇㏈㏉㏊㏋㏌㏍㏎㏏㏐㏑㏒㏓㏔㏕㏖㏗㏘㏙㏚㏛㏜㏝ < 1471146565 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a idea of new kind of format of Magic: the Gathering cards. Select a block and play block constructed, but before the game starts add a Rochester draft and then sealed, the draft/sealed consisting entirely of cards whioch are not legal in the constructed block being played (banned cards may be included in the draft/sealed). < 1471146635 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your constructed deck may include a 15-card sideboard. Whatever your constructed deck size is (not counting sideboard) is your minimum deck size (which may be reduced by conspiracies), and whatever your constructed sideboard includes is your minimum sideboard size. < 1471146667 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly notices the "man" in gamemanj's nick
< 1471146712 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play is then scored per-duel ante, with each card legal in the block worth 2 points, and other cards worth 1 point each, and the game worth 1 point. < 1471146753 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1471146818 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I just noticed that I drew ㎱ as rs instead of ns. I have no idea how that happened < 1471146883 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conspiracies that are placed into the command zone at the beginning of the game do not count toward your minimum sideboard size. < 1471146907 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Does your font editor allow out of bounds drawing? < 1471146913 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471146921 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it is clear. < 1471146947 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and somtimes I have stray pixels in a character < 1471146987 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to finish my program that catches stray pixels < 1471147030 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can add additional conventional basic lands into your deck when creating it after draft/sealed or when altering the deck by exchanging cards with sideboard, but these extra lands will be lost if they are ever placed into the sideboard. < 1471147032 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1471147042 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ㏒(2) < 1471147043 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input ‘㏒’ < 1471147097 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒=log in ㏒(2) < 1471147098 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147128 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒=log; in ㏒(2) < 1471147130 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147166 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me or is this let not the same as lisp let < 1471147230 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471147251 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how is lisp let < 1471147284 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "㏒" == "log" < 1471147285 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1471147294 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes it quite clear... < 1471147348 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒ = log in ㏒(2) < 1471147350 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147411 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: in lisp you can make a temporary variable with the let function. but haskell doesn't seem to work like that < 1471147421 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471147495 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㏒ = 1 in ㏒ < 1471147496 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error in let binding: missing required 'in' < 1471147510 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = 1 in x < 1471147512 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1471147526 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :que? < 1471147569 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ㄋ = 1 in ㄋ < 1471147571 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1471147574 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a ㏒ b = log a / log b in (㏒2) 4 < 1471147576 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.0 < 1471147603 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I see, it thinks ㏒ is a symbol? < 1471147612 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1471147612 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory '㏒' < 1471147614 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : OtherSymbol < 1471147623 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ㏒ < 1471147630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+33D2 SQUARE LOG \ UTF-8: e3 8f 92 UTF-16BE: 33d2 Decimal: ㏒ \ ㏒ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 006C 006F 0067 < 1471147670 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that grow from square trees? < 1471147719 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㏊㏊㏊ < 1471147723 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but they cost a lot of money to buy < 1471147745 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㋍ < 1471147748 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :£4,480... the price started going up after Minecraft became popular < 1471147775 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: My last two messages may have been... complete and obvious lies.) < 1471147853 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⛉⛊⛋⛌ < 1471147910 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ㏒ < 1471147921 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0020 SPACE \ UTF-8: 20 UTF-16BE: 0020 Decimal: \ \ Category: Zs (Separator, Space) \ Bidi: WS (Whitespace) \ \ U+33D2 SQUARE LOG \ UTF-8: e3 8f 92 UTF-16BE: 33d2 Decimal: ㏒ \ ㏒ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) \ Decomposition: 006C 006F 0067 < 1471147960 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That symbol is a pain to write < 1471147978 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎯ < 1471148035 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎨ < 1471148088 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :㎜㋌ < 1471148107 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :millimetres of mercury < 1471148119 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird unit < 1471148159 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for why the japanese wanted SI units to fit into a kanji space... I have no goddamn clue < 1471148202 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: the ghc compiler defers to the unicode standard for categorizing non-ascii characters. which left a few rare usages breaking when the unicode standard changed how it treats ... superscript numbers, i think it was. < 1471148218 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can approximate Japanese typesetting rules with little more than half and full width characters. < 1471148225 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let 𐌹𐌾𐌶 x = log x in 𐌹𐌾𐌶 10 < 1471148226 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.302585092994046 < 1471148272 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory '²' < 1471148274 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : OtherNumber < 1471148279 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: wow you used some characters that aren't in my font! wow! < 1471148293 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, that an SI unit fits 1 kanji cell, especially when doing vertical writing. < 1471148304 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm did they fix that for 8.0 < 1471148316 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Gothic < 1471148332 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x² = 4 in x² < 1471148334 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1471148362 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471148412 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a ▼ b = log a / log b in (▼ 10) 100 < 1471148414 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.0 < 1471148416 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, maybe it was combining letter chars in general < 1471148425 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Is this one in your font? < 1471148435 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h136.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1471148444 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, a downward triangle < 1471148523 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I see, for vertical writing < 1471148554 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would by annoying to have si units be sideways within a vertical text < 1471148576 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's already annoying when it happens with names) < 1471148579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord ́ < 1471148579 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 204 129 < 1471148585 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ́ < 1471148589 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 769 < 1471148615 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory $ last " ́" < 1471148616 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : NonSpacingMark < 1471148648 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ 'a'++drop 1 " ́" < 1471148649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type ‘[Char]’ with actual type ‘Char’ < 1471148649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of ‘(++)’, namely ‘'a'’ < 1471148649 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the second argument of ‘($)’, namely ‘'a' ++ drop 1 " \769"’ < 1471148653 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1471148657 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ 'a':drop 1 " ́" < 1471148659 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : á < 1471148671 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let á = 1 in á < 1471148672 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:6: lexical error at character '\769' < 1471148676 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1471148681 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still broken, that < 1471148771 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the one about playing chess with dead men a voight-kampff question? no. is the question about text packing a voight-kampff question? definitely not. is the presentation of the concept of an attractive chicken in a garterbelt a secret voight-kampff test? definitely! < 1471148957 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: thx tdh < 1471149020 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:453c:e1f6:f69b:8544 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471149469 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh firefox is being a vixen < 1471149477 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, would that chicken pass the voight-kampff test? < 1471149485 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not working for me the way I want < 1471149504 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is working wrong and what way do you want to work? < 1471149511 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :question, what's a voight-kampff test? < 1471149528 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't showing my font, it's showing some other font < 1471149545 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I think they will tell you in Wikipedia; I looked it up it redirect to a different file it tell you what it means. < 1471149644 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, It's showing some of the characters in courier new < 1471149683 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Are these characters always in pairs? < 1471149706 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is coppro/scshunt twh < 1471149754 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Then use a different program to test the font < 1471149781 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another thing to try is to try making a SVG document and see if it will display using the proper font if you do that. < 1471149817 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm <-- this displays ok for me in chrome, but in firefox < 1471149887 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://orenwatson.be/ARGH.PNG <-- I see this < 1471149944 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: It shows up in the correct Oren-Approved International Font for me < 1471149965 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there possibility to download bitmap font? < 1471149977 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: in firefox? < 1471149981 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: red dragon mahjong tile is broken I think < 1471149981 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In firefox. < 1471149990 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox version 48.0, < 1471149991 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :also joker playing card < 1471149993 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Arch Linux, < 1471150026 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I don't think there are any more details to state. < 1471150055 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. so maybe my install of firefox is broken < 1471150065 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(windows 7) < 1471150087 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows. Maybe it just doesn't like webfonts. < 1471150112 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: well I have the same version of firefox < 1471150145 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just go searching through about:settings. < 1471150162 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, it's "about:config". < 1471150212 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gfx.downloadable_fonts < 1471150214 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:5837:4a1a:b115:4019 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471150240 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(useful elements: .disable_cache, .enabled, .woff2.enabled) < 1471150298 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gfx.missing_fonts.notify is also a potentially useful setting. < 1471150745 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finagling with the css... < 1471150796 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reveals that chrome exhibits the same behaviour if I reorder the fonts to font-family: monospace, neoletters < 1471150829 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but firefox appears to be taking the system monospace font first, even if the css says otherwise < 1471150859 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Infocom/runic area of UTCE still has ten unused slots, so these may be filled with additional common runes not yet included, as well as possibly the Verne runes. < 1471150888 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Did you try using the font in a SVG document instead of a HTML document and see if it works better? < 1471150929 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:64ab:739e:eb54:5df6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471150960 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know if it works or not, but you could try it) < 1471150974 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471151292 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think the problem is in firefox, not the font < 1471151308 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works fine in Chrome, and in this terminal session as well < 1471151501 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly something is wrong with my css < 1471151522 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Jafet < 1471151540 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it worked in linux < 1471151545 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wtf < 1471151679 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471151801 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so...what's the best way to take a very long list of strings, and find the longest one that matches at position 0 of another list? I have two thoughts, but would like to hear other thoughts. < 1471151810 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of another string < 1471151909 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Quit: Zarutian < 1471151920 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Does the very long list of strings change often, or does the other string change often? < 1471151947 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the long list is persistent. the other string changes < 1471151971 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps pre-sort the long list so that the longer strings are first. That way, when a string matches, you can immediately return. < 1471151993 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1471152015 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was one of my thoughts < 1471152070 0 :Yurume_!23f9939a@121.78.85.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471152074 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still requires a linear search through the whole thing every time, and, for each thing in the list, a linear time string comparison < 1471152081 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's definitely slow as balls < 1471152089 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i use a trie y/n < 1471152090 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try turning the list of strings into a tree. < 1471152134 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1471152257 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i should use a DAFSA < 1471152391 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471152396 0 :ratpuke!~AndChat63@c-73-140-184-139.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1471152528 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah a DAFSA is probs the way to go. But compiling one from a list will be a pain. I hope someone has done this before and published it... < 1471152549 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey nice https://pypi.python.org/pypi/DAWG/0.7.1 < 1471153773 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S SO GOOD < 1471153793 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1471153817 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471153838 0 :centrinia!~centrinia@107-208-218-105.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471153885 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471154098 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might take up more memory if converted to a tree, unless some compact representation of the tree in memory is used which can also be processed easily; one idea is to allow each node to contain multiple characters instead of necessarily only one per node. < 1471154244 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: Three of the Powerline characters you have are things I intended already to include in the Texas Instruments block for UTCE (the TI-92 has some of them in its character set), so I may include the others also. < 1471154799 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471154892 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471157194 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471157223 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471158225 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471158264 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im complacent and irritable because Im trying to live a great life for god. im seeing visions, ive astral projected and I want to learn everything on the internet. I have a plan to study all subjects online but I am stirr crazy wait on the time I can pursue this objective. I have no friends because of what i believe in and im lonelier than a kid with nothing to do < 1471158274 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im desperate. what should i do, INTERNET? < 1471158292 0 :nortti!nortti@ayu.smar.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome almightynsx < 1471158299 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1471158345 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...dafuq? < 1471158355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Have you been diagnosed with anything? < 1471158355 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEFUQ YOU < 1471158358 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Well, to start with there is no god. < 1471158359 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1471158363 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1471158381 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive been diagnosed with schizophrenia < 1471158404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right < 1471158430 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not everyone is atheist, but if you are seeing stuff that is not there then it is hallucinations, regardless of how good or bad it is, it is still hallucinations I think. < 1471158442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start with http://timecube.2enp.com/ < 1471158518 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I consider myself as panendeist) < 1471158532 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the visions i have I believe are real < 1471158575 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no reason to believe they are real, and have reason to believe that your senses are fallible. < 1471158587 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone's senses can be fallible. < 1471158589 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being in esoteric channel you should all know the visions can be real when practiced right in the context of mysicism or new age spirituality < 1471158610 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how can i prove they are not fallible < 1471158619 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, but it is still hallucination, and still you cannot know for sure < 1471158621 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Have you tried reading time cube? < 1471158633 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't, because I can demonstrate human senses are fallible. < 1471158638 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just the thing; the fallibility of the senses is unfalsifiable < 1471158638 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no seems boring < 1471158639 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: You can't; the best way is scientific method if possible, but even that is not perfect; only mathematics is perfect. < 1471158641 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a channel for esoteric programming languages, not for esotericism. < 1471158662 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Well, proving they're infallible is unfalsifiable. Proving they're fallible is trivial. :) < 1471158674 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought it was all esoteric topics < 1471158676 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yep xD < 1471158703 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Though, really, all esotericness would likely still be accepted < 1471158717 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes pikhq is correct. (Of course we are not always on topic (often we are not), but still, we are not the one to know a lot about esotericism in this channel, so if you ask you are unlikely to get the answer you are looking for I think) < 1471158720 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangs are just what happen when your application of esotericism is in programming < 1471158742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you have a question, the best thing to do is to ask. < 1471158744 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: "Esotericism" tends to entail certain religious, mystic, or spiritual practices. < 1471158750 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Also, learning "everything on the internet" is impossible < 1471158754 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if, nobody knows the answers! < 1471158755 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, really? < 1471158755 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Esoteric programming has little to do with that. < 1471158761 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1471158769 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Esotericism was basically the same as surrealism < 1471158780 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like Dali surrealism) < 1471158812 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it refers to "secret knowledge". < 1471158815 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1471158822 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just a secret teaching for the occult < 1471158830 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Here's a list of every website on the internet, which may be of use: http://www.internetlivestats.com/watch/websites/ < 1471158851 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, so this isn't the channel for esoteric projection? or channelling projects? < 1471158856 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt you can have a proper list of every website on the internet, and even if you do have it, it is not the entire internet anyways. < 1471158872 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait < 1471158872 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're using "esoteric" in a vastly more literal sense, to say "intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people". < 1471158874 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It isn't, but if you have a question, ask anyways. Probably nobody knows, but how do you know until it is asked? < 1471158879 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it isn't linky < 1471158883 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have develpoed a study plan to learn almost study on the internet < 1471158891 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah < 1471158895 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a start < 1471158895 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can apply esotericism to esoteric programming languages, though, I will be damned pleased. < 1471158898 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless it is probably better to ask elsewhere if there is a better place to ask. < 1471158907 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: I suggest starting with formal logic, personally. < 1471158938 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Good idea < 1471158950 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almightynsx: Learn formal logic; this is 100% the best place to start < 1471159058 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PART #esoteric : < 1471159073 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you all for your support' < 1471159079 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Formal logic is good, but how good it is, depend what you want to do. < 1471159146 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics is perfect, but to figure out how the laws of physics are working you must make the scientific experiment, and such experiment is not as perfect as mathematics. < 1471159341 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think many people in this channel is atheist, but what is the actual proportion (approximately)? < 1471159400 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. Probably much higher than average. < 1471159430 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the average must be the average of something. Average of what? < 1471159441 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average in the population at large. < 1471159473 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All human population of the world or only of English speaking people or what? < 1471159525 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. I was figuring more of the IRC-using population, TBH. < 1471159531 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471159550 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the IRC-using population also more likely to be atheist? < 1471159556 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I know what you mean now, I think. < 1471159562 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know? < 1471159578 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply from being nerdy < 1471159589 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that much is true. < 1471159669 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I do not consider myself atheist but I consider myself as panendeist, although since it is difficult to know exactly what such classifications are meaning and some people's classifications may consider my beliefs as atheist even though I don't quite think so. < 1471159674 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want to socialize on facebook? < 1471159724 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1471159742 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use Facebook < 1471159811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have the impression facebook is popular here, either. (i don't have it.) < 1471159832 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm friends on Facebook with all the #esoteric people who use Facebook. :P < 1471159953 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471160146 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471160503 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should to invent Unusenet it is same protocol NNTP like Usenet but the name is always start "un" optionally followed by a number, and then the dot, and then the rest of the name. If the number is specified then it specifies how to find the central server, for example if the name is "un2.net.example.aaa.bbbb" then the central server is "example.net". < 1471160577 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all add me on facebook almightynsx@yahoo.com < 1471160624 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use Facebook so I won't do that < 1471160649 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Facebook added Gopher support would you use it? < 1471160752 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1471160767 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would it take? < 1471160794 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facebook is not useful to me. < 1471160828 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you want to connect with friends and the world around you? < 1471160895 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but no one likes me because of the topics i am dealing with in my life < 1471160897 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do that just by talking to them, although in many cases I do not need to. < 1471160922 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new age spirituality, visions of god, learning everything on the internet < 1471160951 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As has been said before, you cannot "learn everything on the internet". < 1471160964 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can too < 1471160969 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ill prove that one day < 1471160973 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i do it < 1471161032 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either way you try to parse that, it won't work even if you are success you will still fail. < 1471161046 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1471161250 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can find a book about such thing as new age spirituality, visions of god, but possibly you don't find? Then you must write a book. But of course book is not the only one, also computer, too. < 1471161351 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are trying to ask other people how to interpret whatever hallucinations you are having, then I do not know how I could possibly answer such question, because I am not you. < 1471161480 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471161483 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good advise < 1471161533 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want to know advise on how to go about learning everything on the internet and if my visions are because im schizophrenic or because god loves me < 1471161630 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it is because schizophrenic (although I am not a doctor and do not know much of schizophrenia so I cannot say this properly), but maybe there can be possibility to be both? Or, they can be inspire you for such thing. < 1471161721 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see the devil and talk to him audiably and i wonder why im not like the rest of the world < 1471161726 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why i see these things < 1471161761 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try asking a doctor and see if they know the answer. Possibly they don't, but I think it is worth a try. < 1471161792 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i go to see my doctor in two days < 1471161797 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471161797 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill ask then < 1471161806 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they dont know much about hullucinations < 1471161822 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask someone who does know. < 1471161893 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you cannot learning everything on the internet; there are many different protocols, port numbers, file formats, languages, passwords, encrypted data, and other stuff; and also temporal, which also makes it impossible. < 1471161920 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471161921 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard of opencourseware? < 1471161957 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I think you can learn some things from that < 1471161993 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to spend 5-10 years learning all the internet opencourseware < 1471162016 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose you can do that at least. < 1471162122 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if i combined all the sciences and learn them all i would know all science which in on is all conscience con=with science=knowledge < 1471162149 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that is impossible. < 1471162152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471162172 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, just if the word can be combine like such does not even make it possible. < 1471162258 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471162271 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems it is how etymology of "conscience", but just because it is how etymology does not do. < 1471162283 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i would have a very good working knowledge of the universe, would you think? < 1471162324 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more you know, more you can know that you don't know. < 1471162356 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The less you know, more you can know that you don't know. < 1471162432 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1471162434 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Partially, but also if you know then it must be something you know. Even all law of physics and stuff all scientist even won't know perfectly! < 1471162444 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that i wont know all but i atleast will know alot < 1471162471 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1471162479 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of the plan though? any advise on the idea of learning all opencourseware? < 1471162480 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you would know more than if you don't study it at all. < 1471162494 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is good to learn. < 1471162508 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im scared in going to die if i learn all that < 1471162513 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how much is all opencourseware anyways though, so I cannot answer. < 1471162529 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone will die regardless; it is the matter of time. < 1471162601 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well im a christian a bigger question that ive pondered is i might go to hell for learning all of this. what do you say to that? < 1471162619 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is irrelevant. < 1471162631 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also do not think that is how it is supposed to work anyways. < 1471162659 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I am not Christian) < 1471162670 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What denomination are you anyways though? < 1471162681 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :non denom < 1471162706 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471162785 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whys that important < 1471162826 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To see why you might expect to go to hell for learning all of this, mainly. < 1471162862 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you learn from it? < 1471162871 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any advise on that would be detrimental < 1471162940 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That you are nondenominational Christian. I do not actually know a lot about such things anyways to answer such question, but if answer is posted, then it can help if anyone does know how to answer your question better based on that < 1471162963 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1471163375 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the advise this is the best conversation ive had in awhile < 1471163474 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes by hallucination can be inspiration of something, such as, I think Principia Discordia was written like that. < 1471163551 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even when you are sleeping, can be dream and can be hallucination and that too can be inspiration of something, such as, I have seen a chess puzzle that was claimed to be invented in that way. < 1471163602 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i live my dreams < 1471163632 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471163645 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dream, remember them and believe w/e im dreaming about has very important implications to my life. i live and act this way in my dreams and believe they are real < 1471163730 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recently i was dreaming of crossing railroad tracks while carrying something and a woman was chasing me to make me stop. then when i finally gave in to her my heart felt immensely great when i did that action in my dream i even woke up and started thinking and talking about it < 1471163756 0 :almightynsx!~JD@adsl-108-71-34-44.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel my dreams are real some how < 1471165435 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471165443 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!boobies < 1471165450 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong room :/ < 1471168648 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:453c:e1f6:f69b:8544 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471170445 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Principia Discordia"... I've heard of it, and have a way to check against it's calendar via an extremely indirect method, should it matter, but I don't understand what it's "about". Is today Zaraday, or was that yesterday? < 1471170516 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh. It seems that the reference provider is not one, but two days out. Unfortunate.) < 1471171197 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that matter, what is Zaraday... < 1471171431 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471171512 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1471171843 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1471173190 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: SoundHound was finally useful to me. < 1471173484 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :soundpooch < 1471175194 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@n023h158.pguest.mun.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1471175236 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471175366 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471178899 0 :ni291187!~u931732@2a02:810d:12bf:ee84:11ab:e5ea:c8f9:7d8b JOIN :#esoteric < 1471178927 0 :ni291187!~u931732@2a02:810d:12bf:ee84:11ab:e5ea:c8f9:7d8b PART #esoteric : < 1471179548 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: A holyday named after the apostle Zarathud hth < 1471180000 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471180000 0 :carado!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471180415 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471181265 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49139 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+1565) 10first version of page < 1471181301 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49140&oldid=49139 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+63) 10added implementation link < 1471181547 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49141&oldid=49140 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+519) 10added more information < 1471181683 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49142&oldid=49141 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+47) 10Added file extension info < 1471181738 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Actuallyallama14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49143&oldid=47293 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+80) 10actual info! < 1471181910 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07CSL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49144&oldid=49142 5* 03Actuallyallama 5* (+136) 10 < 1471182398 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471183208 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471183265 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471183292 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1471183313 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :superexponential growth//Superexponential growth? SUPEREXPONENTIAL GROWTH?! HOLY CRAP!!! < 1471183541 0 :alercah!raedford@unaffiliated/alercah PRIVMSG #esoteric :superexponential growth is not as crazy as busy beaver growth hth < 1471183589 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471183611 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471183669 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluffy critters of the Canadian forest are fundamentally crazy. < 1471183678 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also known as the FCCFFC theorem. < 1471184264 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1471184287 0 :caradow!~carado@37.174.222.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471184697 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1471185585 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1471185788 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471186493 0 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1471186875 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471186997 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I solved the problem with firefox by deleting firefox and installing a fresh copy < 1471187051 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -rf first, ask questions later < 1471187095 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you literally outfoxed it < 1471187105 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make a version of "rm" which acts like those things from Stargate < 1471187125 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot once to stun, twice to kill, three times... IDK what happens on three times, but it would probably remove all traces. < 1471187246 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called a recycle bin < 1471187320 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I used the recycle bin, acutally, since this is a windows 7 computer < 1471187363 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could've just created a new profile < 1471187493 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... < 1471187499 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try that < 1471189350 0 :orin!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, worked! < 1471190075 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471191250 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471191320 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471191321 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is JOIN :#esoteric < 1471193993 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: FEMALE CHICKEN < 1471194776 0 :baordog!~bob@64.90.176.186.static.nyinternet.net PART #esoteric : < 1471196824 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471198578 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-71-178-208-237.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1471201005 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7014:5f89:22fd:b703 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471201879 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471202431 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471202473 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471202890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471203096 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :arf_> isowner(from,(dat) => {try {client.say(dat[0], eval(dat[2]));} catch (er) {client.say(dat[1], er);}},(dat) => {client.say(dat[0],"Permission denied")},[to,from,mdata.rest]) < 1471203101 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i overdo it? < 1471203111 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/arf_>/ / < 1471203232 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471204299 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471204355 0 :augur!~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:7014:5f89:22fd:b703 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471204404 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamemanj: I have implemented the Discordian calendar in ifMUD too < 1471204429 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it uses the server's timezone, and does not include holidays other than St.Tib's day. < 1471204533 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(St.Tib's day is a intercalary day) < 1471205195 0 :joinBot!~joinBot@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1471205217 0 :joinBot!~joinBot@LFbn-1-1971-236.w90-73.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1471205531 0 :pecan!peter@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471207065 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471207812 0 :lleu!~gnomebad@unaffiliated/lleu JOIN :#esoteric < 1471207833 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471207933 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:64ab:739e:eb54:5df6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471208066 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471208654 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll note that if I ever go to ifMUD. < 1471208657 0 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:c862:6357:bf9e:431 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471208703 0 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471209857 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471209898 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471210325 0 :juffree!~juffree@71.56.26.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1471210714 0 :juffree!~juffree@71.56.26.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1471211901 0 :Zarutian!~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is PRIVMSG #esoteric :are turtle graphics strings considered esolangs in somesense? Specially if they started out as the result of a Lindenmeyer-system substitution? < 1471211965 0 :Reece`!~Ner@cpc4-wiga13-2-0-cust799.18-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar < 1471212175 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@host31-50-3-164.range31-50.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if you defined the "complete" language (defining the Lindenmeyer-system definition language, and the accepted turtle graphics results) as an esolang? < 1471213050 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kgjfsdsvtyklntfp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1471213618 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1471215233 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When human cloning is a thing, how will it fit into a family? < 1471215247 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, what's your clone's wife called? < 1471215272 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A clone is genetically the same as a twin sibling (unless you modify their genes), but they can be several years younger < 1471215288 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you might treat them as a brother/sister, making a clone's wife your sister-in-law < 1471215308 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wait...) < 1471215376 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :52% of identical twins that have one gay member are both gay < 1471215379 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that settles that < 1471215393 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no all-powerful gay gene that singlehandedly determines orientation < 1471215451 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what? < 1471215466 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a source for that 52% < 1471215480 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Crap, no < 1471215484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wikipedia xD < 1471215488 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will check the citation < 1471215500 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what article < 1471215503 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bailey JM, Pillard, RC (1991). "A Genetic Study of Male Sexual Orientation". Archives of General Psychiatry. 48 (12): 1089–96. doi:10.1001/archpsyc.1991.01810360053008. PMID 1845227. < 1471215527 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, 1991 < 1471215533 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah < 1471215536 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The study has been criticized for possible selection bias, in that gay twins are more likely to participate < 1471215544 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if a repeating study will,yield the same result < 1471215551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Good idea < 1471215567 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 52% is still rather far away from ~100% < 1471215568 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :52% sounds like way too high < 1471215580 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: This is only when at least one is gay < 1471215599 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so‹ < 1471215623 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ypu count these as independent or close, it should be way less < 1471215623 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: As in, if you identical twin is gay, the study finds that in 52% of cases, you're gay too < 1471215634 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understood < 1471215636 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1471215697 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since identical twins' DNA is virtually identical, this casts /serious/ doubt on the idea of a "gay gene" < 1471215747 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(keep in mind, I'm not saying that this means that- since being gay is the result of nurture- this changes anything about gay rights; just because it's not genetic doesn't mean it's invalid; but now we can't use the gay gene argument any more) < 1471215756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we" being those of us who would < 1471215785 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, if it has _nothing_ to do with genes (which is what i'd assume) it should be way more towards the general percentage < 1471215825 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yes < 1471215859 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: But this is just debunking the typical interpretation of a "gay gene"- some sort of all-powerful gene that, when active, makes you gay in 100% of cases and when not present makes you straight < 1471215865 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how this explains bisexuals, I don't know) < 1471215883 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where, no matter how you're raised, the presence of such a gene will make you gay < 1471215901 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what wikipedia article is this from < 1471215902 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a related note < 1471215916 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation#Twin_studies < 1471215928 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably jumping to conclusions too fast < 1471215933 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But on a related note < 1471215980 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that transgender...ness is the result of your mothers body giving too much or too little testosterone to a developing fetus, causing its body to develop incorrectly against its genes < 1471216006 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not sure if this is true, and it probably isn't. But it might be. I don't know.) < 1471216026 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this leads me to wondering if identical twins have ever developed where that happened to one but not the other < 1471216040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Causing identical twins of different genders < 1471216079 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, a later study (2000) found results closer to the population average < 1471216103 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am wondering how many of those gay twins are attracted to each other < 1471216120 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Let's not think about that < 1471216130 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what number was it < 1471216134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4] < 1471216145 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Probably 100% of them when they also have narcissistic personality disorder < 1471216161 0 :pecan!peter@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe55:55e8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1471216189 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 2000 study < 1471216422 0 :augur!~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1471216756 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Situs inversus is interesting < 1471216797 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do americans with Situs inversus use their left had when pledging allegiance to the flag of the united states of america in life and in death? < 1471216913 0 :moonythedwarf_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf JOIN :#esoteric < 1471216975 0 :moon_!~IceChat9@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1471217352 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1471218707 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@d108-180-161-224.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric