00:01:55 * boily can't remember if he has seen the message... 00:02:22 the one i got right above hth 00:03:10 -!- augur has joined. 00:04:04 maybe gamemanj just observed it happening. in a quantum way. 00:19:36 i think you're just proving how drunk you are <-- looks plausible 00:20:06 -!- testoren has joined. 00:23:06 testostelloren! 00:23:27 * oerjan swats boily -----### 00:24:28 d20 00:24:28 boily: 8 00:24:44 * boily gets swatten 00:24:46 d20 00:24:46 boily: 6 00:24:52 * boily is lightly swatten 00:25:15 sounds about right 00:27:56 -!- tromp_ has joined. 00:34:23 apparently the correct mehtod to bind f with its arguments within an expression is (f a b) like in lisp <-- well yeah, except the parentheses aren't always necessary. 00:35:04 > map sin [1,2] ++ map cos [3,4] 00:35:06 Ambiguous occurrence ‘map’ 00:35:06 It could refer to either ‘Data.List.map’, 00:35:06 imported from ‘Data.List’ at /tmp/mueval2145174... 00:35:13 wat 00:35:16 :t map 00:35:17 Ambiguous occurrence ‘map’ 00:35:17 It could refer to either ‘Data.List.map’, 00:35:17 imported from ‘Data.List’ at /home/lambda/.lambdabot/State/L.hs:99:1-16 00:35:28 @undef 00:35:28 Undefined. 00:35:31 > map sin [1,2] ++ map cos [3,4] 00:35:32 [0.8414709848078965,0.9092974268256817,-0.9899924966004454,-0.6536436208636119] 00:36:58 `quote \oren\ 00:36:59 grep: \ at end of pattern 00:37:08 `quote '\oren\' 00:37:08 No output. 00:37:13 `` quote '\oren\' 00:37:14 grep: \ at end of pattern 00:37:27 `quote \\oren\ 00:37:27 grep: \ at end of pattern 00:37:29 `quote \\oren\\ 00:37:30 1257) <\oren\> also the letter omega is now known as wubbleyou <\oren\> it's a cuddly doubleyou \ 1260) \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane \ 1261) <\oren\> the upside down command module does mean that the pilot can see the ground while landing \ 1262) <\oren\> scientists can appar 00:38:22 Damn, I wish I knew the context for that 00:38:31 Probably KSP 00:38:47 `quote 1262 00:38:48 1262) <\oren\> scientists can apparently research things even while rotating 30 times a minute 00:38:54 yeah 00:39:39 pretty sure 1261 and 1262 are KSP 00:39:49 i seem to recall the original 00:44:11 `` quote '\\oren\\' | sed -e 's/).*//' 00:44:12 1257 \ 1260 \ 1261 \ 1262 \ 1266 00:44:25 `quote 1266 00:44:25 1266) <\oren\> i don't actually knwo the details, but i want those responsible, whoever they were to be punished 00:45:13 `` quote 'hppavilion' | sed -e 's/).*//' 00:45:14 1242 \ 1253 \ 1254 \ 1260 00:45:22 `` quote '\\oren\\' 00:45:23 1257) <\oren\> also the letter omega is now known as wubbleyou <\oren\> it's a cuddly doubleyou \ 1260) \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane \ 1261) <\oren\> the upside down command module does mean that the pilot can see the ground while landing \ 1262) <\oren\> scientists can appar 00:45:28 `` quote 'hppavilion' 00:45:29 1242) hppavilion1: there's not much point in `addquoting an `addquote unless the person who added it was somehow significant, or there's interesting context because you can tell it was added from the fact that it's there \ 1253) What is an esolang? shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang \ 1254) `? orin 00:45:50 orin is oren's evil twin, stalking him from the other side of the international date line. 00:46:22 `quote 1253 00:46:22 1253) What is an esolang? shachaf: It's an archaic term for an Esolang 00:46:32 `quote 1254 00:46:33 1254) izabera: It's sort of like the principal, as far as I know. Except It only prints " BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL!" Counting down from 99 to 0. With no line breaks. 00:46:47 `pastequotes 00:46:51 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.32496 00:46:52 `quote 1260 00:46:53 1260) \oren\: If I were me, I wouldn't even let you be a /passenger/ on a /normal/ airplane 00:46:54 what's the joke on 1253? 00:47:10 wait. we have a kenm quote? 00:47:14 myname: ...capitalization, maybe? 00:47:15 `quote kenm 00:47:15 No output. 00:47:26 `run cat $(which pastequotes) 00:47:27 ​#!/bin/sh \ if [ "$1" ]; then quote "$1"; else allquotes; fi | paste 00:47:33 that's not funny 00:47:47 `run cat $(which allquotes) 00:47:48 ​#!/bin/sh \ nl -w 1 -s ') ' quotes 00:48:16 oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! 00:48:44 `quote tricycle 00:48:45 14) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! 00:49:12 probably the chrono trigger mode 00:49:42 `quote 25 00:49:43 25) pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. ehird: consider low-gravity porn fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. 00:51:18 hppavilion[1]: I'm not sure you can really incite an attempted crime. 00:51:33 Inciting someone to attempt to commit a crime is inciting them to commit that crime. 00:51:35 tswett: I think you can 00:51:40 Yeah, true 00:52:05 tswett: Unless you incite them with the full knowledge that they can't actually accomplish it 00:52:13 -!- jaboja has joined. 00:52:18 Hmm, I think you have a point. 00:52:35 That reminds me of a stupid legal scenario I came up with one day. 00:53:46 I don't want to know quote 42's context 00:53:50 tswett: Continue 00:54:08 It is winter, and there is a pond which is frozen over. The ice on the pond is thin, and any reasonable person would know that the ice is thin and that it would be unacceptably dangerous to walk out onto the ice. 00:55:01 `quote 42 00:55:01 42) ??? Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? Or are there monster dildos and cocks? Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? 00:55:04 There is a person who unreasonably believes that it would be safe to walk on the ice. 00:55:14 OKAY 00:55:42 So the person walks out onto the ice, and the ice breaks, plunging the person into the freezing cold water. 00:56:11 the context is porbably quote 52 00:56:16 `quote 52 00:56:17 52) if a girl is that cute, i don't care how many penises she has 00:56:29 At this point, the person notices a branch which they had not seen before, which is lying on top of the ice. 00:56:40 orin: hardly. quotes are usually chronological and rarely that close in time. 00:56:53 OH 00:56:54 The person could grab onto the branch and use it to pull themself out of the ice. 00:56:56 Of course 00:57:08 -!- uberBear has joined. 00:57:08 Meanwhile, you have been standing by the pond and you've witnessed all of this. 00:57:17 For no reason, you grab the branch and pull it out of the person's reach. 00:57:25 well the point is that the context of both those quotes is japanese porn 00:57:32 Ah, yes, of course 00:57:45 The person is thus unable to escape from the ice, and freezes to death. 00:57:58 So the question is: have you murdered that person? 00:58:14 Yes 00:58:16 Definitely 00:58:30 definitely. 00:58:53 Barring extenuating circumstances, such as you pulling the branch out of their reach into the reach of someone else 00:59:09 I don't think this even constitutes manslaughter 00:59:24 Just second-degree (unmeditated) murder 01:00:01 -!- carado has joined. 01:00:48 @tell ais523 I am completely mystified. You have succeeded. 01:00:48 Consider it noted. 01:01:17 What if you're out gathering firewood, and that branch is the only viable firewood in sight? 01:01:42 And you're really hungry and you want to just get some firewood already so you can go home and eat as soon as possible? 01:02:56 that somehow reminds me of that shipwreck cannibalism case i saw on wikipedia. 01:03:34 where the conclusion was basically, that killing someone is murder even if it will prevent everyone else from starving to death. 01:03:44 (by english law iirc) 01:04:58 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens 01:05:03 are there quotes that refer to future quotes? 01:05:31 boily: there may be quotes added out of order, but i don't recall anything like that. 01:06:38 or, as the article says, "necessity is not a defence to a charge of murder". 01:06:47 `quote 105 01:06:48 105) but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well 01:06:53 What the fucking fuck does that mean? 01:07:09 which is pretty relevant to tswett's original question. 01:07:13 hppavellon[1]. you never met oklopol, didn't you? 01:07:35 a clear case of oklopol, that. 01:07:39 -!- jaboja has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:07:45 boily: I think I was online with em once 01:08:12 he may have met one of his rare recent alternate nick visits. 01:09:34 boily: Quick, say something that references a future quote 01:10:16 `quote time 01:10:16 33) [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective \ 59) i use dynamic indentation, i indent lines k times, if they are used O(n^k) times during a run of the program \ 86) insufficient time dilation. try running faster. \ 109) 01:10:36 `quote time[^s] 01:10:37 86) insufficient time dilation. try running faster. \ 145) catseye: Please wake up. Not recorded for this timezone. The big spider is not your dream \ 246) * Received a CTCP VERSION from nyuszika7h * VERSION Microsoft IRC# 2011 64-bit (Windows 8 Beta, x64, 2GB RAM) Gregor: Windows 8 Beta? o_O A small bene 01:11:11 `quote time travel 01:11:12 863) i don't even know anything about feather and i'm getting sick of the time travel jokes \ 894) you can define Feather as "Smalltalk done right" if you want to confuse people into wondering why that would involve time travel stuff and all that 01:11:44 hppavilion[1]: best way to delinearize time is to invoke fungot. 01:11:44 boily: gauche is obviously broken then. you're the artist, or you could catch the exception 01:12:28 can fungot invoke me? 01:12:29 boily: i didn't imply ' bitwise' from ' /usr/ ports/ net/ openbsd, bsd/ os, look at the metadata and use it pervasively throughout the curricula, but also blurred vision 01:12:44 fungot: no, my vision's perfectly fine hth 01:12:45 boily: got new mail: http://lists.r6rs.org/ pipermail/ python-list/ 2003-october/ 186473.html google search 01:12:47 How much must one use IRC before they start dreaming in terminal... 01:13:19 boily: It appears the answer is yes 01:13:37 hppavilion[1]: no, I still have perfectly clear vision hthth 01:13:40 3.141592652582646125206037179644022371557877983160126149695135327918621058849781011234089 2609570395550671346460285442982415593446 01:13:46 it has a good approximation 01:14:53 `quote 118 01:14:53 118) OK, so is conspiring to conspire to commit a crime a crime? Let's all get together and talk about defacing public property sometime 01:15:03 ^^^ Relevant to what I've been thinking 01:16:16 `quote 122 01:16:17 122) pikhq: it was fragrant with the scent of abomination. hear a speech declaring a holy war, is the man insane? some idiot missionary gets himself killed, some man writes some gibberish about the shape of a dragon, wonse?" 01:16:22 What mode was that!? 01:16:26 ^mode 01:16:43 ^help 01:16:43 ^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool 01:16:50 ^style 01:16:50 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube 01:17:02 ^style speeches 01:17:02 Selected style: speeches (misc. speeches from Project Gutenberg) 01:17:09 ^style oots 01:17:09 Selected style: oots (Order Of The Stick) 01:17:18 ^style fisher 01:17:18 Selected style: fisher (Fisher corpus of transcribed telephone conversations) 01:17:22 Oooh 01:17:26 fungot: Ahoy 01:17:26 hppavilion[1]: yes i'm like every time a plane would fly over we have a computer 01:18:50 -!- IRIXUser has quit (Changing host). 01:18:50 -!- IRIXUser has joined. 01:18:53 -!- IRIXUser has changed nick to JX7P. 01:19:54 hppavilion[1]: i'm guessing ct, it's an old style that looks like that. 01:20:11 ^style ct 01:20:12 Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) 01:20:15 Interesting 01:20:21 fungot: beep 01:20:21 hppavilion[1]: but, we are far outnumbered! me saw! big fire where lavos fall from sky! we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away! 01:20:30 although usually with more exclamation points than question marks 01:20:33 -!- jaboja has joined. 01:20:41 speaking of ct, I had my first scan ever happen to me the other week. too bad I forgot about asking if I could keep a copy of the data :/ 01:20:57 boily: scan? 01:21:20 . o O ( he had to have his head examined ) 01:21:31 Ah, CAT 01:22:35 fungot: how's the sword stopping going? 01:22:36 oerjan: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... 01:22:42 -!- jaboja has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:23:55 boily: hope it's not too serious 01:24:29 -!- adu has joined. 01:26:02 oerjan: just had recurring headaches and dizziness. they scanned me just to make sure there was nothing wrong (there's effectively nothing), and prescribed me enough tylenols for the next three generations. 01:26:19 eep 01:26:40 ouch 01:27:34 nothing to be worried about. eat more proteins, drink water, acetaminophen and wait a month. 01:31:05 uhm, just to be sure, no hypochondriacs in these here fine chännel, eh? 01:38:37 -!- moonythedwarf_ has joined. 01:38:53 * boily pokes moonythedwarf_ in the duplicate bits 01:39:52 -!- moon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 01:40:08 -!- moonythedwarf_ has changed nick to moon_. 01:45:43 -!- moonythedwarf_ has joined. 01:47:53 -!- moonythedwarf_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:48:20 -!- moon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 01:48:47 -!- moon_ has joined. 01:51:58 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 01:59:43 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:00:24 boily: i'm sure my chondriac is very hypo, i think i can feel it aching hth 02:00:35 Using my new, better method, I made a polling average of the election 02:00:46 http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.htm 02:01:55 http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.c.htm 02:01:59 http://www.orenwatson.be/polls.txt.htm 02:08:23 @tell gamemanj also tell whoever wrote `? gamemanj that "Insert Name Here" was a joke and wasn't to be taken seriously <-- your point twh? 02:08:23 Consider it noted. 02:08:56 boily: finally i got to the explanatory part of the logs. 02:11:48 @tell gamemanj then whoever it was (I vaguely recall the name "oren", but I could be wrong) wrote "I. N. Here", presumably so it sounded like "the mad scientist in here" <-- i think that's overthinking it hth 02:11:48 Consider it noted. 02:13:07 I am not a mad scientist, I'm only impersonating one. I am sane. 02:13:45 (when doing debug stuff with our PDF generation code, I have a nice logo for "Evil Mad Dentist Laboratory" to put in the headers.) 02:13:56 @tell int-e the u/w is a bit too subtle. <-- you can still use wisdom/ although we might yell at you hth 02:13:56 Consider it noted. 02:15:02 boily: is that a backronym of the actual one twh 02:16:56 no, I don't retracronymify initialisms hth 02:18:52 backronyms of initialisms lack yoghurt 02:19:01 (my mind drew a blank there) 02:19:33 hi oerjan 02:19:41 I like yoghurt. a great dollop of it on your cereals in the morning is the best. 02:19:41 hi' moon 02:19:48 helloily 02:21:12 mhelloon_ 02:23:44 @tell gamemanj it's for groups of groups <-- now you're overthinking in the wrong direction hth 02:23:44 Consider it noted. 02:34:10 'night all! 02:34:12 -!- boily has quit (Quit: DUDE CHICKEN). 02:44:51 -!- Zarutian has quit (Quit: Zarutian). 02:52:07 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:54:44 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:00:44 -!- j-bot has joined. 03:09:18 what happened on july 24 03:09:56 ah, the DNC 03:10:05 that makes sense 03:22:38 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 03:23:07 -!- moon_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:23:17 -!- moon_ has joined. 03:35:54 There was also a *lot* of instances of Trump being a public idiot starting about then. 03:52:43 [wiki] [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Kiwitrader * New user account 03:56:49 -!- carado has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:57:03 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 03:58:27 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Changing host). 03:58:27 -!- B1ood6od has joined. 03:59:16 ded 03:59:18 -!- B1ood6od has quit (Client Quit). 03:59:22 channel is ded 03:59:55 [wiki] [[User:Kiwitrader]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49126 * Kiwitrader * (+90) Created page with "Kiwitrader has written two esolangs: Topaz W-INTERCAL links: none now will update soon" 04:01:24 channel is VERY dead 04:03:07 very faux spammer nickname on that one 04:03:28 also, BRAINS 04:03:51 * moon_ hides the bodys 04:03:59 -!- oerjan has set topic: The night of the living channel | The interdisciplinary strange loop of Esoteric Programming Language Design and Deployment | http://esolangs.org/ | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf. 04:22:35 -!- zzo38 has joined. 04:25:40 [wiki] [[Topaz]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49127 * Kiwitrader * (+823) Created page with "Topaz is an esoteric programming language created by ~~~~ its syntax is relatively simple: every program starts with main function declaration: main { ; code } endwi..." 04:31:17 -!- uberBear has quit (Quit: Leaving). 04:32:04 [wiki] [[W-INTERCAL]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=49128 * Kiwitrader * (+626) Created page with "W-INTERCAL is a version of intercal made by ~~~~ It is recommended that novice programmers learn this rather than INTERCAL. Syntax: if you definitely want the interpreter t..." 04:32:21 [wiki] [[W-INTERCAL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49129&oldid=49128 * Kiwitrader * (+2) 04:36:27 Huh 04:37:04 Apparently Skyrim is an Elder Scrolls game 04:37:07 Who knew? 04:37:28 . o O (I want my wikiname to be ~~~~...) 04:37:51 pikhq: that explians why trump wnt down as well as clinton going up 04:38:26 hppavilion[1]: it's just the HackEgo link not doing the expansion for some reason. 04:38:36 Huh. Thought bubble notation has crept its way into here. Or did it come from here. 04:38:59 . o O (I first saw it here) 04:39:46 . o O ( you people are missing spaces ) 04:39:46 orin: He criticized a Gold Star family 04:39:52 crap 04:39:57 HARUKIRI 04:40:37 * oerjan swats hppuvilion[1] -----### 04:41:00 -!- moonythedwarf_ has joined. 04:41:40 hppavilion[1]: ITYM harakiri 04:42:01 orin: It's japanese. Spelling is fungible. 04:42:40 -!- moon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:43:06 腹切り 04:43:42 hppavilion[1]: "Harukiri" would be "cutting spring". 04:43:50 Spelling is important. 04:44:06 春切り 04:44:09 Dammit 04:45:03 While "harakiri" is, well, harakiri. Or seppuku. (腹切り, 切腹) 04:45:54 gut cutting 04:46:28 -!- moonythedwarf_ has changed nick to moon_. 04:46:31 google chose a weird reading of 腹切り, i thought orin was making a pun on fungible. 04:46:54 or something. 04:50:52 so apparently its been a busy night here? 04:51:08 anything worth scrolling up for? 04:58:53 just a brief attempt to reimplement the voight-kampff test disguised as an ethical question 05:06:53 hey, i linked to relevant precedent tsh 05:07:52 -!- moon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:15:10 `? tsh 05:15:12 tsh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 05:15:35 `learn tsh seems helpful 05:15:39 Learned 'tsh': tsh seems helpful 05:15:55 that should help 05:16:02 i know hth 05:16:18 in the words of Jim from Darths & Droids: ooh, that's even better! 05:16:23 `sedlast selpqurtq 05:16:25 sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unterminated `s' command \ wisdom/tsh//tsh seems helpful 05:16:37 `sedlast sqelpqurtq 05:16:39 wisdom/tsh//tsh seems hurtful 05:16:41 :/ 05:16:44 LIES 05:17:06 I should finish reading D&D 05:17:43 `sedlast sqeemsqoundsq 05:17:46 wisdom/tsh//tsh sounds hurtful 05:18:29 `sedlast skur.*korrendousk 05:18:31 wisdom/tsh//tsh sounds horrendous 05:19:23 um... why are you speaking alien to hackego, and why does he seem to understand you? 05:19:45 oerjan is an alien hth 05:20:13 `? hhgttg 05:20:14 hhgttg? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 05:21:07 orin: skkntrisqastvsk hth 05:21:08 or is it thhgttg 05:21:27 `? h2g2 05:21:28 h2g2? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 05:21:43 shockingly, we may not have a wisdom for it? 05:21:52 shocking 05:23:29 also, it's ais523 who is an alien, i thought that was well established. 05:23:59 only one alien? 05:25:33 yep. the rest are zombies, artificial intelligences, disembodied ghosts on the internet or mutant carnivorous plants hth 05:25:54 there may also be one dog, but we're not sure of it. 05:26:17 pooch? 05:46:15 -!- augur has joined. 06:01:37 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:03:15 -!- augur has joined. 06:06:16 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:14:43 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 06:36:49 "Blood is thicker than water, but have you /seen/ oil!?" 06:37:18 and have you seen concrete? 06:39:43 have you seen neutronium? 06:39:50 nope 06:40:06 it's pretty thick hth 06:53:15 Is apostasy is not apostasy? 06:53:44 izabera: oerjan: Neither of those are liquids 06:53:57 concrete is a solid and neutronium is a reality-breaker 06:54:01 Nobody say "glass" 06:54:19 Or I will remove you lungs 06:54:27 welp 06:55:56 Why? 07:14:15 -!- idris-bot has quit (Quit: Terminated). 07:15:16 -!- idris-bot has joined. 07:31:37 hppavilion[1]: diamond, inside jupiter hth 07:31:52 oerjan: That works 07:35:17 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:51:16 Hm... 07:51:26 I've never seen a superhero with the ability to combine other people 07:52:27 why would the do it? 07:56:29 izabera: Not sure, but I'm sure it would be cool 07:57:00 Another interesting superpower: Sort of like Astral Projection, but with the added capability to then bring your body to you 08:01:10 Oooh, Probability manipulation is a fun power 08:12:35 Some people subscribe to the Fate view, which says that everything that ever happens happens because of some sort of orchestrated cosmic symphony 08:12:56 It says everything happens for a reason (which is pleasant), but we don't have free will (which makes life hard) 08:13:47 Other people say that the way the universe goes is up for us to decide, which says that we choose our own paths and those who do well did so because they earned it and a guilty criminal could have /not/ done it, so it's their fault. 08:14:04 Free will is inspiring... but it also requires that nothing happen for a reason, which makes it sad when bad things happen 08:14:09 I take the more practical approach 08:15:00 The human brain is largely random and impossible to predict, but ultimately has no meaningful form of free will because some actions are determinant and others are random, but none are controlled by some glorious, unified higher entity 08:15:15 Which gives the ultimate view that humans don't have free will AND it's all meaningless 08:15:17 ...yay? 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HackEgo is so lucky in comparison 17:32:28 what vm? 17:32:42 and what problems are you experiencing? 17:32:50 i got one a couple of days ago 17:33:03 actually 3 17:33:21 and yesterday i couldn't access it and had to reboot from the control panel 17:38:32 izabera: it's just getting write errors on the storage device... 17:39:01 ...periodically causing the FS to be remounted read-only, sometimes locking the VM up completely 17:40:33 (It's one of the 512MB/10GB $35/lifetime VMs.) 17:40:46 i got a $70 17:41:01 for $21 because discounts 17:41:08 I actually deleted the thing and set it up again but it didn't improve... all I got out of it was a changed IP ;) 17:42:17 how long have you been using it? 17:42:29 yeah I paid $17.50... january 2015 17:43:21 actually that doesn't sound too bad 17:43:24 anyway, since my attitude was that I'd get it to see how bad it would be I wasn't unduly disappointed 17:43:48 but it has been misbehaving for most of that time. 17:43:53 most? 17:43:57 a year? 17:44:05 what happened? 17:44:10 what I wrote 17:44:14 it's been like that for ages 17:44:19 ok 17:44:32 what do you use it for? 17:44:42 just curious about the type of load etc 17:45:20 -!- moonythedwarf_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 17:45:30 i'm currently only using it for weechat in 2 channels but i was planning to move arin.ga over there 17:45:33 virtually no load. It has a homepage http://64.137.252.151/ and mroman's Burlesque shell. 17:45:46 -!- moon_ has joined. 17:45:52 i wish to report a bug 17:45:57 the picture is all blurry 17:45:59 pls fix 17:46:07 izabera: It's a feature. 17:46:13 broken by design 17:46:50 I worked hard on that picture, for probably an hour in gimp! Don't dis it!!!1 17:47:10 (these things always take longer than they should ;-) ) 17:47:50 what about that burlesque shell? 17:47:58 lemme see it 17:48:08 @google burlesque shell 17:48:14 http://yorehab.com/burlesque-shell-seat-purple/ 17:48:14 Title: » Burlesque Shell Seat Purple YoWorld Price Guide and YoWorld Fan Site 17:48:16 (just curious) 17:48:19 (that's not it) 17:48:46 @google brulesque programming language 17:48:52 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Burlesque 17:49:01 hmm, close enough. 17:49:38 from there you can find http://mroman.ch/burlesque/ which has a link to the shell 17:49:58 (and I don't give a direct link because that may change) 17:50:29 i was assuming cac gave you an ip? 17:50:45 they did 17:51:01 and they'll give me another one if I decide to set up the VM from scratch again 17:51:20 oh that's what you mean 17:51:24 that's fine 17:51:34 i thought they changed it without notice 17:51:56 that would be interesting, but no, they have not done that yet 17:53:00 -!- carado has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:54:11 oh and I have a Debian system on there... it's just conceivable that it doesn't agree with VMware. 17:54:22 But I don't really believe it. 17:55:18 I could, perhaps, drop the errors=remount-ro flag from the fstab 17:56:12 (just for fun) 18:00:12 i got ubuntu and then used this https://github.com/drizzt/vps2arch 18:02:41 -!- xfix has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:09:26 -!- carado has joined. 18:40:49 -!- xfix has joined. 18:47:34 [wiki] [[W-INTERCAL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=49138&oldid=49134 * Kiwitrader * (-23) 18:57:36 -!- lleu has quit (Quit: That's what she said). 19:33:15 -!- uberBear has joined. 19:37:07 -!- nisstyre has joined. 19:37:11 -!- nisstyre has quit (Changing host). 19:37:11 -!- nisstyre has joined. 19:38:52 -!- augur has joined. 19:43:51 -!- uberBear has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:51:33 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:54:30 -!- augur has joined. 19:55:44 -!- moonythedwarf_ has joined. 19:58:58 -!- moon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:00:06 -!- zzo38 has joined. 20:16:55 -!- Zarutian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:18:19 -!- Zarutian has joined. 20:30:17 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:31:33 -!- jaboja has joined. 20:44:37 -!- moonythedwarf_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:45:49 -!- moon_ has joined. 20:56:58 -!- carado has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:02:41 -!- carado has joined. 21:34:05 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 21:36:21 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 21:39:17 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:47:03 -!- carado has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:47:26 -!- carado has joined. 21:47:45 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 21:57:15 -!- Reece` has quit (Quit: Alsithyafturttararfunar). 22:08:53 -!- augur has joined. 22:14:15 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 22:29:45 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:32:28 -!- augur has joined. 22:41:53 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:47:49 -!- augur has joined. 23:02:30 -!- moonythedwarf_ has joined. 23:03:27 -!- moon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 23:06:17 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:11:38 My roommate just sent http://imgur.com/KTVaVW1 to me, and I had a flashback to one of those 0 == 1 "proofs" 23:13:14 Yes, there's quite clearly a five++ in there. 23:14:11 @tell oerjan Yes, overthinking is something I am proud of. 23:14:11 Consider it noted. 23:14:34 -!- carado has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:14:51 -!- carado has joined. 23:15:34 gamemanj: maybe you should think on that before making such a bold claim 23:15:45 * int-e is helping! 23:16:00 int-e: Which bold claim? 23:16:31 the one you just told lambdabot to relay to oerjan 23:16:42 I am. It's what I'm good at. 23:17:52 I couldn't help thinking that maybe if one considers the ramifications in full detail it will turn out that overthinking is often not helpful and therefore, not something to be proud of. 23:18:13 I forget to comment my code. My art... do not ask about my art. My physical strength is pretty low - I can't pull myself up onto a ledge if it's higher than my shoulders (probably if it's higher than my elbows, I need to actually write these things down.) My memory is also lacking, as suggested in that last comment. 23:18:17 And of course I'm attracted to the circularity. 23:18:33 So, tell me, int-e, what am I to be proud of but my overthinking? 23:18:44 prooftechnique: is that js? what even does incrementing an object mean? 23:19:18 the same as setting it to NaN, usually 23:19:23 quintopia: The "object" is actually Number: 5, and I'm guessing there's implicit conversion. 23:19:25 i guess its a native number object containing the value five? 23:19:26 quintopia: It is. It coerces it to an int in that case 23:19:37 gamemanj: oh you could start small. there's the remarkable feat of your continued existence 23:19:50 * gamemanj picks up a rock. 23:20:00 Rock, you should be proud of yourself. 23:20:05 For your continued existence. 23:20:09 * gamemanj places the rock back down. 23:20:13 oh that makes sense. so five++ means five=five.intValue()+1 23:20:23 this is why pyhton doesnt ++ 23:20:26 Right 23:20:50 -!- jaboja has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:21:48 and then setting properties on it coerces it back into Number? 23:22:03 or no 23:22:12 it just silemtly fails 23:22:16 weird 23:22:16 Nope, the coercion is in place 23:22:19 there is a petition in germany to give an equal amount of male and female names to potatoes ... 23:22:35 So it goes from Number(5) to an int 5 23:22:45 Well, int 6, I guess 23:22:57 prooftechnique: i meant setting the wtf of int 6 23:23:05 Right, int isn't an object in JS 23:23:12 it doesnt even give an error 23:23:27 There is no integer type in JavaScript, only floating point 23:23:36 zzo38: thx 23:23:43 js is so weird 23:23:46 Right, I forgot about that. What a nightmare 23:23:51 But in many cases is treated as an integer, and some implementations may even store them as integers too to increase speed 23:24:43 For example, bitwise operations will treat the numbers as signed 32-bit integers and output a signed 32-bit integer too 23:25:52 prooftechnique: if i ran that code and then did Number(5).wtf would it say potato 23:27:13 I'm not sure, actually. 23:28:10 I don't think so, though 23:28:51 ok. so each wrapped number gets its own instance? 23:28:55 I think that would be equivalent to new Number(5).wtf, so it would give nothing 23:28:57 -!- augur has joined. 23:29:58 some languages intern cache number objects for small integers. java, for instance 23:30:11 to save memory 23:30:47 but then, they are essentially read-only objects if you dont do some tricky reflection 23:31:05 so theres no way to screw them up 23:38:22 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:41:51 -!- Akaibu has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 23:43:34 -!- Akaibu has joined. 23:52:25 -!- carado has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:57:04 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds).