00:02:07 I have a notion the "registering my straight throws as curve balls from time to time" issue is some sort of a bug with the touchy input stuff having some touches get stuck, or some-such. 00:02:28 -!- centrinia has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:03:00 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:04:23 * boily pokes oerjan to check for immortality 00:04:44 are you in the mood to look at some kittens 00:05:01 kittens are always nice. 00:05:15 BORAILYNS 00:05:32 borailyns???????? 00:06:37 * oerjan shambles in boily's general direction 00:06:52 oh. _that_ kind of immortality. 00:07:01 what other is there, duh 00:08:09 hm spammers trying again? 00:08:23 and clearly testing posting as well as captcha 00:16:34 Is that one also named after Lem? <-- no hth 00:16:48 oerjan: then what twh 00:16:50 * oerjan hasn't read _that_ much Lem, anyway. 00:16:58 shachaf: hmph, can't you guess. 00:17:09 Not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Master%27s_Voice_(novel) ? 00:17:23 oh. 00:18:02 Oh, maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nipper 00:18:19 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Master%27s_Voice 00:18:32 well the "His Master's Voice" part would be after the famous pooch picture (which is also a record label?) 00:18:49 I guess so. 00:18:52 I never heard of it before. 00:19:17 i suppose you're too young to know about vinyl records hth 00:19:19 When I looked it up I thought the Lem book was first. 00:19:25 shachaf proposing kittens, oerjan talking of pooches, and there is a plastic guide for throwing pokeballs. there's something wrong going on... 00:19:39 shachaf: i wouldn't know. 00:19:57 boily: i'm just so impressible hth 00:20:43 it's a scow character trait, i know. 00:22:13 oh Nipper was his name 00:23:01 boily: is there a guide for whether pokeballs should be disposed as plastic twh 00:23:41 the Nippooch. 00:23:57 are pokemons edible? 00:24:07 boily: here are some nippooches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUB1uYLv3M 00:24:52 fluff! <3 00:30:31 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 00:43:59 uh? 00:46:54 I really want to plug Trump into https://www.politicalcompass.org/test 00:47:14 But his opinions are so inconsistent that it just isn't feasible 00:50:28 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Read error: No route to host). 00:51:29 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 00:56:24 -6.25 / -8.62. 01:00:23 hi 01:00:32 @metar lowi 01:00:32 translate? 01:00:32 LOWI 222350Z AUTO 06003KT 330V110 9999 FEW016 SCT017 BKN110 18/16 Q1018 01:00:36 quinthellopia! 01:00:51 helpoily 01:01:09 I took the test, and I scored -6.25/10 on the left right axis, and -8.62/10 on the authoritarian libertarian axis. 01:01:24 int-e: 18/16? bletch! 01:01:53 @metar EGLL 01:01:53 EGLL 222350Z AUTO 22004KT 9999 NCD 19/15 Q1020 NOSIG 01:02:05 Still 26.2 inside. 01:02:14 fizzie: fungone for a while 01:02:18 Oh. 01:02:24 Why does the Pokemon TCG software emulate a physical table? A flat surface would be much more readable 01:02:33 boily: i take it that makes you liberauthoritarian? 01:02:48 -!- fungot has joined. 01:02:51 oerjan: fungotted. 01:02:52 fizzie: using some implied fnord for now :d or for anything 01:02:54 Apparently I have a pokemon.com account. I'm guessing I tried the Pokemon TCG online briefly befoe 01:03:30 fizzie: who gets paged when fungot dies 01:03:30 shachaf: what about 0 0(1) gives output and results 0 0 x x x x x 01:03:38 fungot: no u 01:03:38 shachaf: i'm hatching norns to be slaughtered by an fnord to it, and i have a phrase with 2 quasiquotes in it, so 01:03:42 ^style 01:03:42 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube 01:04:04 shachaf: The job doesn't even die, it just gets stuck forever somehow. 01:04:21 quintopia: more libertocialist hth. 01:04:27 fizzie: what was that thing sres said 01:04:37 fizzie: monitor symptoms or something like that 01:04:51 fungot: o hai? 01:04:52 boily: oops didn't mean to say is that it's " finished and working" ( in some unspecified order), each variable is assigned, so it's totally useless 01:04:56 you need fungmon 01:05:02 boily: isn't socialism basically the definition of liberal authoritarianism? 01:05:37 oops. I didn't parse the portmanteau correctly. 01:05:38 shachaf: I need /healthz on it. 01:05:57 yes 01:06:00 everything needs that 01:06:07 /healthz? 01:06:18 boily: Googlestuff. 01:06:23 fizzie: can you believe that there are programs in the world that don't always run an http and/or rpc server 01:06:43 shachaf: Somehow I can. 01:06:51 shachaf: I think a number of Android client apps don't. 01:07:24 FireFly said 11h 13m 29s ago: FireFly, is the number of cards limitation based on name or card itself? ← oh, good point. it's based on the name, so that is another case where it matters 01:07:31 fizzie: Well, server programs. 01:07:37 Or command-line programs. 01:07:39 I don't know. 01:09:35 Maybe I should be running fungot with Kubernetes. 01:09:36 fizzie: a compsci grad student by chance? would make it fail in a spectacular way, but mycology specifies it well enough. the information is ambient and always there ( just seeing it reminds me of a line ( to include in order to 01:09:44 Probably. 01:09:49 fungot: do you like kubernetes? 01:09:49 olsner: apart from gaining some efficiency, as opposed to fnord 01:15:14 Googling "is there any good option in this election" gives Wikipedia/None of the Above 01:15:38 fungot 2016 01:15:38 shachaf: emacs lisp, or smalltalk, or ruby before c any day. 01:17:34 Oh I totally misunderstood prize cards I think 01:17:44 When I knock out enemy pokemon, I take my own I think 01:18:10 Yes 01:25:23 Playing the tutorial, was told to evolve a Pokemon. Despite the basic having an energy 2 attack and the new one only having a 1 and 3, I think the new one is monotonically better, because the new one's one energy attack is the same as the old one's two energy attack. Are evolutions always better or are there tradeoffs? 01:25:46 Sometimes whether or not it is better depend on the situation. 01:27:07 zzo38: Do you prefer Pokemon cards or Magic: The Gathering cards? 01:27:18 I can play both games 01:27:40 But which one is better? 01:28:02 Both are better. Although, I play the old Pokemon card game and not the new one anyways 01:28:36 There are situation in Pokemon card where you might play an evolution card solely to increase its retreat cost, in order that a recycle energy attached to it can be retrieved in order to power an attack of another card that does not do any damage. (I have done this.) 01:30:58 i just looked a quora question which gives a trivially easy math problem as a "very challenging problem that takes a long time". i'm worried that the "tutor" who posted it doesn't deserve the job... 01:35:20 I think I found the only good vote for 2016 01:35:24 "No Confidence" 01:37:31 You have to injure the candidates badly enough that they will not recover in time for the election. 01:51:07 zzo38: We need to go back in time and stop Hitl- Hillary 01:53:08 bah just missed seeing a cut again 01:55:47 at most one more cut on the rightmost branch before the dire subbranch gets pruned more 01:56:11 (152k cuts so far) 02:04:09 -!- Zekka has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 02:05:52 -!- Zekka has joined. 02:06:15 oerjan: ...wat? 02:09:05 have you not been following the hydra news 02:11:58 hppavilion[1]: i'm trying to let http://www.madore.org/~david/math/hydra.xhtml follow its cause with the automatic play setting. 02:12:07 *its course 02:13:32 i seem to have got a better setup than int-e did (he gave up at ~ 1.5M cuts despite having increased the speed), but worse than quintopia. 02:14:29 that is, after ~150k cuts i've still not reached the state quintopia said he was at last we discussed that 02:14:41 -!- Zekka has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 02:16:47 my estimate that i'd get to that point in less than 100k cuts seems to be overoptimistic, but hopefully not wildly so. 02:17:11 (100k + the ~ 70k i had when making it.) 02:18:41 (hm, is it possible that the difficulty depends on something that differs between browsers / window size? 02:18:44 ) 02:20:10 oerjan: ...is this one of those unwinnable games? 02:20:54 no, it's actually guaranteed win, it just takes a long time when using the extremely naive automatic algorithm 02:21:29 -!- boily has quit (Quit: BALLERINA CHICKEN). 02:21:32 there's a theorem saying the hydra will die no matter how you chop 02:22:36 you can do much faster with a manual strategy. i read ybden had managed in < 200 cuts earlier. 02:23:19 our theory is that the automatic strategy (always take leftmost head) is close to the worst possible. 02:28:04 -!- adu has joined. 02:29:06 \oren\: you've been pretty hanabi lately 02:41:03 -!- Zekka has joined. 02:44:18 Yay! I defeated the Hydra by hand! 02:44:42 1745 heads 02:45:09 That sounds more like a Lowdra. 02:45:40 hppavilion[1]: that's ok for a first attempt ;) 02:46:26 shachaf: I gave it Molly, so it's definitely a Hydra 02:46:41 although it depends a lot on luck especially in the beginning, i think. 02:46:44 I know a pooch named Molly. 02:47:59 * oerjan wonders what Molly has to do with Hydras 02:48:34 -!- Frooxius has joined. 02:49:43 the first hit seems aquarium-related, although you'd give hydra to molly, not the other way around. 02:50:33 Oh, just noticed it's on madore.org 02:51:05 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 02:51:22 oerjan: If you're genuinely confused, Molly is the street name for MDMA 02:51:28 OKAY 02:51:43 (Hydra with a digraph...) 02:51:58 -!- tromp_ has joined. 02:51:59 hppavilion[1]: OK, but where's the joke? 02:52:12 shachaf: Molly gets you high 02:52:21 shachaf: I was just countering your joke 02:52:44 I don't get it, though. 02:53:01 * oerjan swats both hppavilion[1] and shachaf, just in case -----### 02:53:46 Oooh, hyperbolic maze 02:55:31 * shachaf swats oerjan -# 02:56:02 it's the most fantastic maze in the universe. no, _all_ the universes! 02:56:43 `wisdom 02:57:14 `wisdom hyperbol 02:57:28 * oerjan taps his hand 02:58:39 hm we put +n on the channel again, so that weirdness with HackEgo should not be happening. 02:58:47 hyperbolic group//Hyperbolic groups are the best groups there are, they're totally awesome and cure cancer. 02:58:47 hallucination//You are just imagining this wisdom entry. 02:59:08 looks like someone had that idea before. 02:59:22 `howg hyperbolic group 02:59:23 `cwlprits hyperbolic group 02:59:38 le/rn hyperbolic group/Hyperbolic groups are the best groups there are, they\'re totally awesome and cure cancer. \ le/rn hyperbolic group/Hyperbolic groups are the best group there are, they\'re totally awesome and cure cancer. 02:59:43 oerjan oerjan 02:59:52 yep. 03:02:08 `? ellipsis 03:02:10 ellipsis? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 03:02:12 `? parabola 03:02:15 parabola? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 03:02:28 `wisdom parab 03:02:29 cat: : No such file or directory \ // 03:02:36 `wisdom ellip 03:02:37 cat: : No such file or directory \ // 03:24:41 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:31:35 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:03:22 -!- tromp_ has joined. 04:14:08 `whatiflist 04:14:38 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: whatiflist: not found 04:14:54 `` ls bin/*whatif* 04:15:08 ls: cannot access bin/*whatif*: No such file or directory 04:27:18 I'd love to see a 13-episode scripted series in which everybody on earth is teleported to the same place on earth- an area the size of Rhode Island (and, coincidentally, also actually Rhode Island), all jump at noon, and then the world grinds to a halt because everyone's in Rhode Island and the rest of the world has nobody operating things 04:30:42 oh the righmost dire branch is now siblingless 04:30:56 at 162k 04:31:12 there's got to be some progress now 04:31:23 hppavilion[1]: I think there would be more pressing problems before much technology fails. 04:31:35 Namely, a lack of potable drinking water. 04:31:54 pikhq: is that really the time to think about drugs hth 04:31:54 pikhq: Yes, that would be part of it 04:32:31 -!- clog has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:32:46 Also, there would inevitably be multiple massive stampedes. 04:32:47 -!- bennyZ has joined. 04:32:58 -!- bennyZ has left. 04:33:08 -!- bennyZ has joined. 04:33:33 -!- bennyZ has left. 04:33:35 Be a good time to be a vulture in Rhode Island though. 04:36:53 pikhq: The show would be mostly about a small band of people who escape The Grand Shitstorm 04:37:39 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:38:34 Saw something claiming PTCGO can't be made fullscreen. They're wrong 04:41:51 clooog! 04:43:55 tunes is down? scow 04:44:17 oerjan has been stripped of his powers 04:44:23 he's like the rest of us mortals now 04:45:11 Actually, wait. That much people together is probably bad purely from a thermal point of view. 05:03:41 -!- adu has joined. 05:03:54 -!- adu has quit (Client Quit). 05:05:17 WHY is the AI sparing me? 05:05:25 I lost a long time ago but it won't finish me off 05:10:28 [wiki] [[FOS-X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48978&oldid=48977 * Darkrifts * (+1337) 05:21:59 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 05:22:30 That took 30 minutes and I eventually just gave up 05:22:37 Are Pokemon matches supposed to last that long? 05:25:23 Sgeo: No. 05:25:45 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 05:25:47 Oh, wait. TCG. I dunno. 05:52:40 -!- tromp_ has joined. 05:57:01 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 06:09:21 What is the US law distinguishing prostitution from porn production? Because I really don't see a clear distinction, and they're already similar enough that I don't see how they justify classifying prostitution as a crime 06:12:14 I would guess it varies by state 06:13:12 Google suggests I'm right, but take that with a grain of salt (I'm not a lawyer) 06:13:48 IIRC the standard for "is this porn?" is federal, but I don't know if there are standards for particular kinds of porn on the state level 06:25:26 -!- hppavilion[2] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 06:31:41 There's also no federal law on prostitution, at all. 06:32:11 And there is in fact one state where prostitution is legal. 06:32:25 Yeah, google turned it up, but I forgot which 06:32:34 Nevada. 06:33:22 classic nevada 06:33:33 But, it's illegal in Las Vegas. 06:34:03 bummer 06:35:03 Fortunately, The Strip is not in Las Vegas. 06:36:08 "-- located immediately south of the Las Vegas city limits in the unincorporated towns of Paradise and Winchester." Well, that's a name. 06:37:08 What, like Newcastle upon Tyne? 06:37:38 -!- hppavilion[2] has joined. 06:39:03 No, Paradise and Winchester are two different unincorporated towns. 06:40:35 Frankfurt an der Oder, the cheap knock-off of Frankfurt am Main. 06:46:15 @metar KSJC 06:46:15 KSJC 230453Z 29007KT 10SM CLR 19/12 A3004 RMK AO2 SLP170 T01940117 06:46:19 @metar KOAK 06:46:19 KOAK 230453Z 28006KT 10SM CLR 17/13 A3004 RMK AO2 SLP173 T01720128 06:46:40 Maybe this channel has some convolution experts. 06:46:46 22:43 Is there a sort of convolution which is something like (f*g)(a) = \Sum_{x,y | x+y <= a} {f(x)g(y)} ? 06:46:49 22:43 (Where normal convolution would use = instead of <=.) 06:46:51 22:44 (To match Day convolution.) 07:04:55 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 07:07:45 -!- hppavilion[2] has changed nick to hppavilion[1]. 07:08:01 I think I might have found a single scenario in which patent law can be a good thing 07:08:08 But it's really obscure and unlikely 07:10:32 Is Magikarp always supposed to be bad? 07:11:01 http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Magikarp_(Ancient_Origins_19) a 1/4 chance of landing a 30 attack? 07:11:09 I think that's bad, I'm not certain 07:14:36 hppavilion[1]: What kind of scenario is that? 07:15:27 zzo38: You invent something genuinely novel and useful that people want, and you manufacture it somewhere that isn't horrifying (that is: in a factory that /doesn't/ need suicide nets) 07:15:37 You patent it, and people buy it 07:16:15 If it wasn't patented, Apple would likely start making them too, and it would be cheaper (so people buy it) because it's manufactured by technically-not-slaves 07:16:29 I think still it would be no good though 07:20:14 -!- adu has joined. 07:23:53 -!- Akaibu has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 07:25:56 Sgeo: Yes, Magikarp is supposed to be bad. 07:26:42 Magikarp in the JRPG learns 3 moves (2 in the first one!): Splash, Tackle, and Flail. 07:26:51 Splash does nothing. 07:27:07 Tackle has 50 power (i.e. it's a fairly weak move) 07:27:41 Flail, the only move that makes Magikarp have any use itself, gets stronger the less HP it has. 07:27:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtyZMDQCA_Y 07:28:28 (I don't remember offhand if this is NSFW) 07:28:34 pikhq: Yes? 07:29:27 -!- Akaibu has joined. 07:30:21 Sgeo: Why don't they tackle? Ever? 07:30:44 (Or is tackle not available in this particular iteration?) 07:31:54 Ooh I forgot Ditto existed, I wonder wha it's like in TCG 07:32:14 I was trying to think of the duplicatey pokemon, and kept thinking of Jiggypuff for some reason 07:32:20 Maybe because of some brawl game? 07:32:57 You were thinking of Kirby, apparently. 07:34:01 Sgeo: It appears it IS NSFW 07:34:03 ...Jiggypuff is at least in that same brawl game, right? 07:34:05 Depending on your definition 07:34:35 My favorite pokemon is Kirby 07:34:42 Yes, Jigglypuff is in Smash Bros as well. 07:34:44 Wait, pikhq already mentioned Kirby, so my joke doesn't work 07:35:17 Jigglypuff, IIRC, is in *all* of the Smash games too. 07:36:07 * Sgeo suddenly wants Missingno. in the TCG 07:36:17 Ah, yes. I love Missingno 07:36:25 `? Foundno 07:36:51 There existed a TCG called MissingNO 07:37:29 OK, what's TCG again? 07:38:08 Foundno? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 07:38:20 trading card game 07:41:29 Maybe pokemon are actually interesting to read about 07:41:34 Well, some of them 07:41:36 I find it hilarious when Christians talk about Jews negatively 07:41:48 * Sgeo wonders if the movies are any good 07:41:55 I think I read a pokemon book once as a kid 07:42:24 When- going solely by the holy book- Jews are just Christians Lite (alt: Christians who haven't yet purchased the DLCquel) 07:44:05 hppavilion[1]: No 07:44:17 They reject Jesus 07:44:28 alercah: ...? 07:44:28 which, seeing as that's basically the foundation of Christianity 07:44:34 is why they don't like them 07:57:15 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 07:59:30 * Sgeo might look for a "rational" pokemon story 07:59:42 (Using "rational" as the genre here) 08:00:19 First need to read chapter of Mother of Learning 08:01:14 Trump SAYS he wants to make America great again 08:01:22 But he doesn't put his money where his mouth is 08:01:33 45 million Americans are below the poverty line 08:01:44 [wiki] [[Gaot++]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48979 * TuxCrafting * (+1763) Created page with "== Description == Gaot++ is a stack-based programming language with 2 types of commands: baas and bleets. Gaot++ have a instruction pointer going t..." 08:02:24 If trump donated all of his money (measured by net worth, which is probably about how much he has on hand because that's obviously how economics works) to Americans to help them with life, that would be enough... 08:02:42 To give every povertous American... 08:02:43 $100 08:02:46 So 08:02:54 Not actually very significant 08:03:13 I mean, better than nothing, and good for the REALLY poverty-y people 08:03:18 But not really as great as we thought 08:03:37 (see: https://xkcd.com/947/) 08:10:59 Compound interest is one thing, but I'm more a fan of complex interest 08:11:26 For explanation of complex interest, talk to \oren\ 08:13:04 That comic doesn't seem very related. 08:31:52 [wiki] [[Gaot++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48980&oldid=48979 * TuxCrafting * (+201) 08:36:36 [wiki] [[Gaot++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48981&oldid=48980 * TuxCrafting * (+64) 08:39:05 -!- tromp_ has joined. 08:44:09 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 08:58:48 shachaf: It is in that it shows another instance of money being less powerful than we thought 08:59:00 Is it possible for there to be a complete, consistent system of morality? 09:05:03 TV Tropes seems to interpret "Idiot Programming" and "Genius Programming" as inefficiency vs efficiency 09:08:43 Sgeo, from a non-programmer perspective, that's the most obvious interpretetion, I believe 09:12:03 Of course, that question reduces to "can a proper moral system exist in which 'a certain amount of elementary arithmetic' cannot be carried out" 09:12:55 (or, at least, that's a prerequisite; The inverse of Godel I isn't necessarily true AFAIK) 09:43:59 I think you can encode arithmetic in trolley problems 09:51:32 Taneb: Is that a funny bizarre statement or a completely serious bizarre statement? 10:14:40 In the US that would be spelled "trolly problems". 10:24:25 hppavilion[1], yes 10:24:41 Taneb: ...no really 10:24:49 ...yes 10:25:20 Of course, "do nothing, ever" could be argued to be a complete, consistent system of morality 10:34:18 Is that a tanebvention? 10:36:25 I don't think so 10:40:20 -!- tromp_ has joined. 10:44:42 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:13:24 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:16:16 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:17:49 -!- clog has joined. 11:31:11 -!- gamemanj has joined. 11:43:00 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 11:43:07 -!- Cale has joined. 12:42:05 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 13:07:27 -!- Akaibu has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 13:23:00 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 13:41:50 -!- tromp_ has joined. 13:43:05 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 13:46:27 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 13:52:05 -!- boily has joined. 13:57:15 -!- jaboja has joined. 14:14:46 fungot: nostril. 14:14:46 boily: it's interesting, yes. fame. mm. diet food. 14:17:24 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:27:13 -!- jaboja has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:33:22 fungot: ewww! 14:33:22 int-e: ( i killed it? :) where would you simplify it? 14:42:28 fungot looks perfectly healthy to me. maybe the secret to his health comes from nasal food? 14:42:29 boily: fortunatelly he's not communist :) it helped me concentrate on getting your code working on all the esolang interps it uses 14:43:15 -!- tromp_ has joined. 14:47:33 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:54:11 fungot: please tell us more about your fascinating political agenda 14:54:11 int-e: about half-way through 14:54:20 fungot: come on! 14:54:20 int-e: there is a completely non-standard extension that a few days, i'm completely useless. 15:01:20 [wiki] [[User:Orlando]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48982&oldid=44373 * Orlando * (+111) 15:01:37 -!- tromp_ has joined. 15:02:06 [wiki] [[User:Orlando]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48983&oldid=48982 * Orlando * (+39) 15:02:16 [wiki] [[User:Orlando]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48984&oldid=48983 * Orlando * (+1) 15:02:27 [wiki] [[User:Orlando]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48985&oldid=48984 * Orlando * (+1) 15:02:38 [wiki] [[User:Orlando]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48986&oldid=48985 * Orlando * (+0) 15:04:30 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 15:14:14 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 15:16:47 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:43:14 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:51:32 oh right 15:51:44 * oerjan considered idling, but eventually didn't. 15:53:34 zellørjambie! 15:56:02 * gamemanj considers idling, but ironically ruins it by stating this. 15:56:13 CEREBROILY 15:56:27 gamemanj: i mean because clog was gone. 15:57:33 @metar lowi 15:57:34 LOWI 231450Z 28007KT 210V350 9999 FEW040 SCT080 BKN120 24/16 Q1017 NOSIG 15:57:44 @metar ENVA 15:57:45 ENVA 231450Z 27011KT 9999 SCT020 BKN030 18/15 Q1020 RMK WIND 670FT 27010KT 16:14:29 @metar KATL 16:14:29 KATL 231452Z 21005KT 10SM FEW030 BKN200 BKN250 30/23 A3007 RMK AO2 SLP169 T03000233 51006 16:15:32 so not that hot then 16:15:36 guess i'll go outside 16:17:39 gamemanj: I think idling is a myth. 16:18:33 no-one would have believed, in the first months of 2016, that human affairs were being watched, from the timeless voids of IRC idlers... 16:19:06 fungot: you believe, right? 16:19:06 oerjan: so there will be stuff i don't grok 16:19:15 fungot: well, possibly. 16:19:15 oerjan: and true brilliance. eta reduction is ( lambda ( x) ( x 16:19:29 fungot: that's a given. 16:19:30 oerjan: my dairy heater broke. i had another method when doing it from scratch, but not kilimanjaro's reason, or the universe implodes" 16:20:02 the hydra is approaching a major cut, i can feel it... 16:20:36 gamemanj: what about here in the last months of 2016 16:20:45 oerjan: this is worse than watching a heated kettle of milk... 16:20:46 it just has to blow up a little more first. 16:20:50 ...the milk *will* boil! 16:20:52 int-e: :P 16:21:06 quintopia: well, the idler invasion already happened, didn't it 16:21:20 gamemanj: THEN WHAT HAPPENED 16:21:39 they all died because of bacteria on their keyboards 16:21:46 i wish madore hadn't placed the stop/start buttons so far from the canvas. 16:21:46 oerjan: Please don't make me implement the hydra in Haskell or C++ just to prove that it can go into billions. 16:21:59 ('merican billions) 16:22:02 oerjan: are you still watching the same dang auto-run of hydra from days ago? 16:22:08 int-e: oh i'm sure it can. but mine won't. 16:22:12 quintopia: yes. 16:22:38 quintopia: I'm surprised you didn't remember it 16:22:44 oerjan: how close is it? 16:22:44 oerjan: I'm sure it won't... there's only so many three quarter seconds in a year. 16:23:09 int-e: is there no way we can hack that script to speed it up? 16:24:00 quintopia: there is, but I'm not sure how to do it on a loaded web page. 16:24:01 -!- miketo has joined. 16:24:12 int-e already did that. just because i'm insane enough to run it at normal speed... 16:24:27 -!- miketo has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 16:24:36 quintopia: I mean, I did hack it. I made a better strategy too but oerjan doesn't want to hear about it. 16:26:22 gah the second last branch blew up a bit too 16:26:44 i'm sure i'll test out strategies... later. 16:27:42 int-e: i'm downloading it and editing the 750 on the callback to...say...50 16:29:33 OH ITS SO MUCH FASTER 16:30:21 just hit 1000 16:31:02 -!- miketo has joined. 16:31:07 just hit 2000 16:31:10 that's what int-e did when running that one he still gave up after 1.5 million cuts. 16:31:15 quantum hydrae theory: for any situation involving a hydrae following sensible rules, there is a solution to be found through the correct set of branches. 16:31:16 -!- miketo has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 16:31:24 (* may not actually be quantum.) 16:31:50 -!- miketo has joined. 16:31:55 3000 16:32:01 it's so close now that i have to keep an eye on it. 16:32:33 quintopia: didn't you already run one that was pretty fast? 16:32:50 i'm still trying to get to those 3 normals you said you had. 16:33:20 oerjan: eh my computer crashed before it finished ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:33:26 bah 16:33:45 i'm explicitly avoiding visiting reddit to try and decrease the chance my browser does that 16:35:30 quintopia: I used 5 instead of 750 for http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/hydra.png (hmm, I didn't save a screenshot 1 million steps later) 16:35:41 maybe it needs a "save" button 16:35:46 I have to admit that oerjan's hydra looks less healthy than that. 16:36:20 quintopia: the operative word was "on a loaded web page" though 16:36:22 oerjan: how many heads are you at 16:36:35 178k 16:36:48 -!- miketo has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 16:37:04 perhaps one could use the javascript console to manually start the periodic timer 16:37:06 -!- ^v has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 16:37:42 also oerjan is using IE which I'm totally clueless about 16:38:05 int-e: inspect element etc. lets you edit pages right in the browser. it's just easier to download. (what's the difference between a web loaded from a local file and a web page loaded from a remote server, when there are no remote embeds in the page?) 16:38:30 -!- boily has quit (Quit: ROOT CHICKEN). 16:39:54 -!- ^v has joined. 16:41:14 inspect element is neat for those annoying web pages with huge bars 16:44:01 oerjan: okay i'm doing it again: http://imgur.com/q763tic 16:44:17 -!- miketo has joined. 16:44:19 i'm not visiting any other web pages right now, thanks :P 16:44:34 -!- miketo has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 16:44:48 of course "might happen any moment" and "will actually happen in a moment" are not quite the same here. 16:45:28 -!- miketo has joined. 16:46:22 -!- miketo has quit (Client Quit). 16:46:37 -!- miketo has joined. 16:46:44 oerjan: i'm at 39718 heads and the rightmost subtree is one dire on level 2 and one normal on level 3 16:46:54 -!- miketo has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 16:47:01 dang 16:47:29 i'll have to reiterate my wonder whether the size limits vary by browser/screen 16:48:00 -!- miketo has joined. 16:48:10 otoh the initial depth probably matters a lot. 16:48:18 -!- miketo has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 16:49:50 -!- miketo has joined. 16:50:07 oerjan: yes true. i'm now at 70189 chops and the rightmost does not extend to level 3 16:50:54 whee 16:52:20 -!- miketo has quit (Client Quit). 16:52:24 i'm now down to my last possible dire neck (because it connects to the rightmost head, there is no way to create new dire necks when it gets expanded) 16:55:31 hydra killed at 118091 chops 16:55:40 congrats! 16:56:00 (Bachmann-Howard ordinal is the name of my Bachman Turner Overdrive cover band) 16:56:07 OKAY 16:57:09 time for strategies? 16:57:23 -!- iconmaster has joined. 16:57:32 -!- iconmaster has quit (Client Quit). 16:57:33 [wiki] [[Gaot++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48987&oldid=48981 * Kc kennylau * (+2241) 17:01:49 hmm. how does one find the topmost head in this representation? Oh, there is a countDepth function, so you can just recurse on the child with the highest depth... 17:06:33 -!- int-e has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:07:41 -!- int-e has joined. 17:12:14