00:06:32 -!- MigdaliaDufrane6 has quit (K-Lined). 00:21:12 a bit off topic, but does anyone here know how to actually read the javascript cpu dumps you can gen from google chrome's devtools? 00:22:52 I didn't even know you could get them. 00:43:13 impomatic_! 00:53:29 -!- tromp_ has joined. 01:07:04 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:12:37 why do people write stuff like this? auto main () -> int { ... } 01:13:04 izabera: do you really want to know? 01:13:12 yes? 01:13:46 my current guess is that it makes code look more c++ish 01:14:40 you know how bad parsing C++ is, right? 01:14:50 i've heard of it 01:15:01 It's more regular. 01:15:01 never actually tried to write a parser 01:15:12 the problem comes back to C actually 01:15:18 but C++'s various features just make it way worse 01:15:32 e.g. i * foo; 01:15:37 is that a declaration or an expression? 01:15:45 Yes. 01:15:52 you can only correctly determine by knowing whether i is a type name or note 01:15:53 *not 01:16:19 the complexities of C++'s template system mean that in order to determine whether something is a type or not, you need to be able to resolve templates and overloading 01:17:07 ok... so... why not write int main () { ... } ? 01:17:26 now, in templates, you often want to write a type that depends on the templated types 01:17:31 e.g. operator + (T a, T b) 01:17:42 you might want this to return a + b 01:17:57 but you can't just write decltype(a + b) as the return type 01:18:24 you used to have to do a bunch of crazy template gymnastics 01:18:31 that involved making fake values of types 01:19:18 to solve this at the language level, they added late-specified return types 01:19:28 and they have the weird syntax they do because they wanted consistency with lambdas 01:19:42 but some people also want it to be a uniform one-size-fits all syntax 01:19:47 so that's why they declare functions using that as well 01:22:23 but you can't write auto f () -> void { ... } 01:22:33 What? 01:22:34 scow 01:23:43 izabera: you can't? 01:23:57 -!- tromp_ has joined. 01:23:59 Wait, yes you can. 01:24:53 Elixir's Access.all violates lens laws :( 01:25:02 i assumed you can't because e.g. in this snippet http://stackoverflow.com/a/38398485/2815203 they declare two functions with auto f (...) -> type and a void function with the old syntax 01:25:22 and your point was that they do it for consistency 01:25:29 but that looks inconsistent to me 01:26:53 iex(29)> [[{0, 1}]] |> get_in [Access.all, Access.all, Access.elem(0)] 01:26:54 [[0]] 01:27:05 don't make me pull out the standard 01:27:30 whoa whoa whoa, referral link 01:27:35 i ain't clicking that 01:28:14 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38393694/how-to-generate-nested-loops-at-compile-time second answer here 01:28:55 I don't know what that's doing so I can't tell whether it violates any laws. 01:30:29 [[{0, 1}]] is in Haskell terms [[(0, 1)]] 01:30:41 get_in is a function for using Elixir's lens-like things 01:30:58 Access.all targets all elements of a list. Access.elem(0) targets element 0 of a tuple 01:31:01 izabera: that's just inconsistent usage 01:31:06 ok 01:45:21 -!- MoALTz has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 01:49:34 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:59:50 -!- spiette has joined. 02:05:25 -!- tromp_ has joined. 02:15:15 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:23:19 -!- tromp_ has joined. 02:23:50 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:36:05 -!- spiette has quit (Quit: :qa!). 02:43:30 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:08:13 -!- augur has joined. 03:35:04 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 03:56:12 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=48888 * Darkrifts * (+1816) Created page with "This language and its specification is still being developed by ~~~, suggestions are welcome and appreciated. The language is "compiled" into an obfuscated set of characters a..." 03:57:02 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48889&oldid=48888 * Darkrifts * (+16) /* Documentation */ 04:02:30 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:13:31 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:20:48 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48890&oldid=48889 * Darkrifts * (+582) /* Documentation */ 04:21:06 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48891&oldid=48890 * Darkrifts * (+2) /* = Stack */ 04:21:17 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48892&oldid=48891 * Darkrifts * (+2) /* Queue */ 04:21:26 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48893&oldid=48892 * Darkrifts * (-2) 04:21:37 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48894&oldid=48893 * Darkrifts * (-2) /* Stack */ 04:22:13 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48895&oldid=48894 * Darkrifts * (-2) /* Queue */ 04:24:00 -!- adu has joined. 04:24:49 thank you chan serv 04:24:58 you're so good to me 04:34:53 https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/free-pokemon.htm 04:35:04 Isn't this exactly against what net neutrality is supposed to be for? 04:50:19 Yeah 04:51:56 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48897&oldid=48895 * Darkrifts * (+879) /* Documentation */ 05:27:19 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 05:51:05 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:27:19 If the essence of strength is sneaking stuff across composition, what is the essence of choice? 06:29:34 sneaking mposition across costuff 06:33:33 -!- impomatic_ has quit (Quit: http://corewar.co.uk). 06:34:34 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:44:57 -!- teuchter has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 06:45:48 i need help with pipes 06:45:57 https://arin.ga/RbnWnM/raw this works at least on linux 06:46:14 i can send 256mb in a single write, and get the data back in a single read 06:46:47 is linux is being clever and it's super unportable? 06:47:07 is linux being*... 06:49:38 What's the problem? 06:50:12 i was expecting to be bounded by the pipe buffer size 06:50:23 I don't expect that it's atomic. 06:50:34 ok 06:50:38 good point 06:53:34 -!- tromp_ has joined. 06:57:51 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:07:20 izabera: This is Linux being nice is all. PIPE_BUF is the amount that's guaranteed to be atomic, not the maximum read or write size. 07:07:42 Linux is permitted to, and apparently is in this case, letting you work on significantly more data. 07:12:16 // comments on the same line as a #define unnerve me. 07:12:26 Logically, I know that comments are removed in translation phase 3, but it doesn't help with the feeling. 07:14:15 don't let it faze you 07:14:39 Also, POSIX on pipes: "A write request for more than {PIPE_BUF} bytes shall cause one of the following: When at least one byte can be written, transfer what it can and return the number of bytes written. When all data previously written to the pipe is read, it shall transfer at least {PIPE_BUF} bytes." 07:15:10 So I think izabera's program really ought to check what the write/read calls return. 07:15:31 Oh, I guess it does the memcmp. Well, still. 07:15:33 That's true for most programs that issue write/read calls. 07:15:35 I didn't look at the program. Yes, it really should. 07:16:14 it was a quick poc 07:16:52 But yes, PIPE_BUF is a guaranteed minimum that will be transfered, not a maximum. 07:17:54 great, then i'm using this to implement dd 07:17:55 A magical multi-exabyte pipe buffer would be a valid implementation even without PIPE_BUF matching. 07:18:02 dealing with ibs != obs is annoying 07:18:29 I dunno if that'll work correctly. 07:18:41 dd... is kinda defined pretty precisely in POSIX. 07:18:56 have you considered that unix is scow 07:19:24 shachaf: Yeah, but all other popular OSes aren't even scows. 07:19:33 what makes you think it wouldn't? 07:19:35 it won't* 07:19:39 everything popular is bad 07:19:59 izabera: The kernel is perfectly permitted to restrict you to just PIPE_BUF buffers. 07:20:43 kernel is being nice to me so it would be stupid not to use it 07:21:04 The kernel is being nice to you today. The kernel is within its rights to not be nice to you tomorrow. 07:21:32 that'd be a pretty serious regression 07:21:44 No it wouldn't. PIPE_BUF is the interface contract. 07:22:19 ugh fine i'll do the buffering 07:22:26 If you write broken code against what you pretend is the interface instead of the documented interface, you get to keep both pieces. 07:43:17 -!- augur has joined. 07:49:42 is there a way to discard data without reading it from a non seekable device? 07:49:50 device/fifo/whatever 08:28:42 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48898&oldid=48897 * Darkrifts * (-30) /* Documentation */ 08:29:58 [wiki] [[FOSCode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=48899&oldid=48898 * Darkrifts * (-24) 08:49:00 -!- choochter has joined. 08:51:58 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:52:05 -!- tromp_ has joined. 08:52:42 -!- augur has joined. 08:56:33 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 08:57:15 -!- Shubshub has joined. 08:57:24 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 08:58:38 -!- augur has joined. 09:34:20 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:38:01 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 09:47:24 New self-screening pickup line: Give a girl (or boy) your number- your Erdős number 09:48:06 (Well, "new" in that I just learned it; Zack Weiner invented it in 2013 or something) 09:52:10 I haven't written any papers yet :( 09:52:53 Taneb: Hurry up and do it with someone with a finite Erdos number 09:53:04 * hppavilion[1] rings the esobell 09:53:15 Does anyone in this channel have a finite Erdos number? 09:53:19 Yes 09:53:58 I know oerjan does, I'd be very surprised if none else does 09:54:00 Taneb: Whom? 09:54:04 Ah 09:55:01 I *live* with someone with a finite Erdõs number 09:56:42 It's 6, but that's something 09:58:29 Taneb: 7 is good for entry-level 09:59:28 I doubt anyone ever had an initial Erdos number of 1, except maybe 1 Ramanujan-level genius 09:59:52 Okay, is Ørjan Johansen a common name in Norway? 10:00:04 Yes 10:00:15 That makes sense 10:00:27 The English equivalent is something like George Johnson 10:00:34 Ah, yes 10:01:07 Because in a late-night would-be-but-am-not-actually-drunk session of trailing, I found someone- perhaps a minor celebrity, if only of a medical variety- named Ørjan Johansen 10:01:30 (or, well, Pål-Ørjan Johansen) 10:02:01 There's a quote from him talking about how he managed to quit smoking and drinking 10:02:17 By starting MDMA and psychedelics 10:02:59 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 10:05:52 Been a while since I've had much in the way of alcohol 10:06:02 Wine with dinner when I've been on holiday 10:17:34 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 10:28:03 -!- lynn has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 10:28:24 hppavilion[1]: Well-known in here, of course. 10:28:37 `? ørjan 10:28:55 Your pal Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it. 10:30:23 -!- Cale has joined. 10:30:40 -!- lynn has joined. 10:31:04 -!- lynn has changed nick to Guest5944. 10:41:11 Taneb: i recommend sticking with ethanol hth 10:43:57 -!- Napejts has joined. 10:44:41 wtf is esoteric programming 10:47:13 `welcome Napejts 10:47:17 Napejts: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 10:47:28 but how can i use this languages? 10:50:08 I don't know, browse https://esolangs.org/ a bit until you find something that has a link to an implementation and appeals tou you, then try it out? 10:50:57 theny we are they languages without links?... 10:50:58 damn 10:51:01 then why 10:52:52 They may still be interesting from a theoretical perspective... Also some languages are created by people who like writing examples and/or specifications and hope somebody else will implement them. 10:54:19 really nerds stuff... 10:55:50 thanks god its non-capitalistic 11:00:18 guys and gals. i can not decide to use unity or unreal engine? 11:00:22 i testes both... 11:00:59 they are almost the same.. except UE gives better graphics.. but less tutorials.. unity has a lot tutorials... but not so good graphic... and unreal has visual scripting called blueprint.... unity has only c# 11:01:26 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:06:15 -!- gamemanj has joined. 11:48:31 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 11:53:48 -!- tromp_ has joined. 11:58:57 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 12:33:19 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 13:17:11 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:22:54 -!- Shubshub has quit (Quit: Oops. 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(I get them in the "server log" window in irssi) 18:04:13 It might not work because the correct command is "cs access #esoteric list" 18:04:21 i was jk but you're not fun 18:05:09 zzo38: "chanserv" as a raw command definitely works 18:07:02 izabera: I think there was no way to tell that that was supposed to be a joke. 18:07:46 Yes that works too, although "cs" is also valid 18:07:48 you're not in the right mindset 18:23:49 -!- oerjan has joined. 18:28:43 -!- adu has joined. 18:29:18 did someone want an op 18:29:27 @messages-loud 18:29:27 hppavilion[1] said 1d 6h 9m 52s ago: I'm free! 18:30:01 izabera: we have 3 active ops, the problem might be that we're all in the timezone. 18:30:34 alas all the american ops left us. 18:31:02 (of course my timezone is ridiculously messed up so _shouldn't_ count anyway.) 18:32:50 *in the same timezone 18:33:10 someone's stealing my words 18:33:33 -!- adu has quit (Client Quit). 18:37:29 The English equivalent is something like George Johnson <-- i think "George" is a bit too common for comparison. my last name is considerably more common (as in 2nd place in norway) than the first (although neither is rare.) 18:37:45 of course you're right if you're thinking cognates. 18:38:04 oerjan: are you suggesting that there's more than one time zone? 18:38:27 next you'll tell us that Earth is not a disc but approximately spherical... 18:38:51 *sigh* it's that time of day when the sun shines straight onto my sofa... fortunately that ends in about seven minutes. 18:39:20 int-e: there are more timezones in heaven and in earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy 18:39:32 ouch 18:39:35 * oerjan now check quotes 18:40:09 pretty close. 18:41:01 "'«‹›»'" 18:41:04 otoh the spammer was about this time of day, wasn't e. 18:41:26 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:42:28 ‷‶‵′″‴ <-- beautiful (but not quotes) 18:42:38 so perhaps it was just bad luck. although i'm not _usually_ here at that time. although that day i was away for a different reason than usual. 18:43:01 int-e: not that kind of quote. 18:44:18 It's so sad, Unicode is devoid of any quintuple stuff. 18:44:46 `unidecode ⁗ 18:45:03 `wisdom 18:45:16 ​[U+2057 QUADRUPLE PRIME] 18:45:16 mroman_//mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure. (NSFW) 18:45:37 wat 18:45:45 that's ridiculous, everyone knows quadruples are not primes 18:46:24 it's not a *4 prime, it's a prime so awesome they had to mention it 4 times 18:46:26 myname: wat wat? 18:46:46 why is that nsfw? 18:47:16 `howg mroman_ 18:47:29 learn_append mroman_ (NSFW) \ learn mroman_ is probably mroman but you can never be sure. 18:47:37 `quote 18:47:40 235) actually the first joke i thought elliott was making was that he's so small masturbation is gay pedophilia 18:47:46 myname: ask mroman hth 18:48:03 ... 18:53:10 `? ørjan 18:53:13 Your pal Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it. 18:53:28 oerjan, http://www.bash.org/?311375 18:54:45 myname: I'm afraid it's probably based on a graphic interpretation of the underscore. 19:06:48 (here we use "kilo" for "kilogram" when shopping... so why not do the same for decagrams (a unit, that fortunately, isn't fashionable here)) <-- heh in norway we use(d) kilo, and also hekto, but not deka. 19:07:50 somehow deka isn't really used as a prefix either. 19:08:39 desi is, though, with liter. 19:23:09 hmm I'm too stupid for this "Snakebird" game. 19:23:20 int-e: snakebird is too good 19:23:43 It has some hard puzzles. 19:25:34 I mean I'm not failing completely... but 45 or so solved levels the remaining one are really quite hard... 19:26:12 How many levels are there? 19:27:19 51 I can predict (45 numbered ones, and 6 in the clouds...) 19:28:30 wait, they count from zero, so 52. and there might be another one in the center... or many other ones on the surrounding islands. I don't know :) 19:28:55 int-e: Did you play Stephen's Sausage Roll? 19:29:39 nope 19:30:03 It is also a puzzle game with difficult puzzles. 19:34:16 -!- JenElizabeth8 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:34:40 i like robozzle 19:35:41 -!- idris-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 19:38:36 -!- Melvar has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 19:41:59 -!- tromp_ has joined. 19:42:41 -!- Melvar has joined. 19:46:37 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:50:47 tromp, there's work on a JS version 20:11:56 `? tg 20:12:08 TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. 20:12:39 `learn_append tg This gizmo talks gibberish too garbled to grasp. 20:12:46 Learned 'tg': TG is short for Turing-Gödel, the highest possible level of difficulty for a multiplayer game. At this level, it's undecidable whether you can manage to halt before losing or not. This gizmo talks gibberish too garbled to grasp. 20:12:59 int-e: wat. 20:13:05 int-e: are you going to roll any sausages 20:13:08 oerjan: read it again hth 20:13:44 shachaf: not any time soon, I believe 20:16:33 hmm. 20:16:34 `revert 20:16:52 rm: cannot remove `/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/env/.hg/store/data/canary.orig': Is a directory \ Done. 20:16:53 `le/rn tgtgtgtg/This gizmo talks gibberish too garbled to grasp. 20:16:57 Learned «tgtgtgtg» 20:23:10 `? tc 20:23:16 tc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 20:23:21 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 20:23:27 hmm. perhaps something with total control? 20:32:01 -!- augur has joined. 20:37:37 hm oh maybe there was a new spammer 20:38:47 the other two ops tend to take a bit of weekends off, me thinks. 20:39:59 the only solution is for fizzie to move to mountain view 20:40:16 clearly. 20:40:30 or san francisco 20:40:58 you could lock down the channel during the night... hehe. 20:43:01 * oerjan grins evilly 20:45:25 has anyone ever written any procedurally generated techno music? 20:45:58 the demo scene all way through the 80s and 90s, would be my guess. 20:46:45 (probably not quite the way you want; I'm using the term "procedurally generated" in a fairly loose sense) 20:52:11 <\oren\> Do people in scandinavia pronounce Java as "Yava"? 20:54:01 -!- MDude has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:54:30 \oren\: by default, yes. 20:54:45 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 20:54:56 and i think this is not a case where insisting on english pronunciation is likely. 20:55:33 especially since the island is already pronounced that way. 20:56:39 * oerjan notes that how the _a_s are pronounced will vary between scandinavian countries. 20:57:42 well, slighly anyway. 20:58:13 like, anywhere between en:far and en:bad 20:59:14 (iiuc, norwegian uses approximately the former, danish approximately the latter, and swedish one of each.) 21:01:37 -!- rdococ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:02:25 <\oren\> what about C++? 21:03:52 "se pluss pluss" in norwegian, anyway. like each character in order. 21:04:03 int-e: i suppose i mean "dynamic, adaptable, 'infinitely' novel procedural generation" 21:04:17 <\oren\> Ah, I was wondering if the C would differ 21:04:37 <\oren\> and the name of the + 21:04:51 nah. the vowels are different, though. 21:04:53 <\oren\> シープラスプラス 21:05:00 oerjan: can you record yourself reading the names of the top twenty most popular programming languages for science? 21:05:41 hm i may be slightly biased there: i have not actually _heard_ norwegians pronounce most of them, so i _could_ be wrong. 21:05:41 i would do it for you 21:06:06 (also, what are they?) 21:06:37 http://pypl.github.io/PYPL.html 21:06:52 top 18 is close enough 21:08:12 i have no idea how norwegians pronounce the # in C#. 21:09:09 (likely just using the english word.) 21:11:45 here i read them and you can just tell me where you would differ: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-0NVE9E8UJieVUxeXJaNnVpYk0/view?usp=sharing 21:13:33 i don't think describing it would do. 21:18:31 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:21:07 quintopia: more seriously, googling "procedurally generated music" turns up enough results that I'm pretty sure this has been tried, at least, perhaps successfully. and on a far less serious note(no pun intended), I thought all one needs for techno is a simple while loop. 21:22:46 quintopia: https://clyp.it/zwo2wql3 21:23:36 many of those are somewhat guesswork. 21:27:53 -!- augur has joined. 21:29:24 although i'm pretty sure i've heard many of them too. Perl, Matlab, Basic (maybe not with the visual), C, Javascript, Python and Java, at least. 21:29:57 oh and C++. 21:30:55 * oerjan thinks that selection pinpoints his age a bit :P 21:32:30 What's the one at 0:22 after Visual Basic? 21:33:20 Oh, I see. 21:33:26 I didn't see quintopia's recording. 21:34:13 shachaf: VBA, which i'm pretty sure i've never heard a norwegian say, so it's just the letters in order. 21:34:45 quintopia's recording is very General American. 21:34:53 obviously. 21:35:01 I can't GA that much. 21:35:18 you can GH, i'm sure 21:35:44 Not really. 21:35:50 or have you reached the point where you have a noticeable accent in both languages 21:35:51 I have a noticeable accent in every language. 21:36:16 figures. 21:36:44 Also I don't think GH is a thing. 21:37:03 IH then. 21:41:20 Also you can tell that I don't know how to pronoucne things because I'd pronounce "Delphi" like oerjan rather than like quintopia. 21:42:24 -!- tromp_ has joined. 21:42:45 oerjan's pronunciation is more Norwegian than I thought. I'll have to rethink my pun strategy. 21:43:24 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:43:30 indeed it is. it's how we pronounce the greek place name. 21:43:51 so i assume the PL would be the same. 21:44:33 also, what does this have to do with your pun strategy 21:44:39 Presumably it's spelled ∇ɸ 21:44:48 Er. 21:44:50 i don't think so. 21:44:56 ∇φ 21:45:27 -!- augur has joined. 21:45:38 Δελφοί hth 21:45:42 <\oren\> I thoght ∇ was pronounced "nabla"? 21:45:50 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del 21:46:12 oerjan: the one that surprised me the most was the "H" in "PHP" 21:46:24 \oren\: indeed. iirc there's a student organization in Oslo by that name. 21:46:29 The two that I couldn't figure out initially were Python and VBA. 21:46:33 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:46:38 quintopia: well that's also just the letters in order. 21:46:55 oerjan: i just didn't know that was the norwegian way to say H 21:46:59 right 21:47:03 That reminds me that I should learn differential geometry. 21:47:55 <\oren\> I encountered nabla when I took Analysis II and larned some stuff about manifolds 21:49:27 shachaf: yeah the pronouncing "th" as /t/ rather than /þ/ threw me as well 21:49:51 Well, that's pretty common in transliterating English words to other languages. 21:49:51 also i started trying to learn diffgeom once. 21:50:23 shachaf: yes but "other languages" wouldn't normally include "nordic languages" in my mind hth 21:50:46 <\oren\> nabla f is the gradient of a scalar field f, nabla dot v is the divergence of a vector field v, and nabla cross v is the curl of the vecotr field 21:51:41 <\oren\> and there's some rule where a nabla of another nabla gives zero 21:51:42 quintopia: your preconceptions about nordic languages are a thorn in your side hth 21:52:31 shachaf: i'd call them "conceptions" since i've actually been to all those countries and had some luck in translating the signs hth 21:52:35 \oren\: Pft. http://mathoverflow.net/questions/10574/how-do-i-make-the-conceptual-transition-from-multivariable-calculus-to-different makes me want to skip over that whole thing. 21:52:51 quintopia: i just wanted to make a pun hth 21:53:20 shachaf: these days i just assume you work a pun into every message, even when you're being totally serious hth 21:53:25 quintopia: https://clyp.it/uwzhgvhr btw it's in my dialect, the "standard" pronunciation has more closed e's in many letters. 21:53:33 (but not in e itself) 21:54:51 oerjan: sounds very...spanish-like. except, again, the H. still have no idea on that. 21:55:20 quintopia: norwegian has no /þ/ so that's a given, sometimes even when pronouncing things loosely "as english". 21:56:35 quintopia: the H is explained by that at some point in norwegian history, long a (á) turned into å. 21:57:09 several other vowels are also sort of "rotated" a bit. 21:58:49 -!- uberBear has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:59:06 shachaf: en:thorn = no:torne so it checks out :P 21:59:16 -!- jaboja has joined. 21:59:43 or wait, maybe without the e. hm that might vary. 22:03:08 the cognates to english th tend to have t or d, or sometimes nothing at the end of syllables (which may or may not be written as a d) 22:06:57 thou -> du, three -> tre, there -> der, bath -> bad, and i'm having trouble thinking of a silent one that actually has an english cognate... 22:08:46 old norse had /þ/ or /ð/ there, of course. 22:19:29 @tell moon_ Anyone know a interpreter for underload that is in node.js? <-- i think there's a JS one linked from the esolang page, at least. 22:19:29 Consider it noted. 22:21:12 -!- gamemanj has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 22:25:24 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in). 22:30:19 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 22:42:25 -!- Cale has joined. 22:43:14 -!- tromp_ has joined. 22:44:17 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 22:45:33 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:48:02 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 22:53:05 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:56:24 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 23:35:12 -!- MDude has joined.