00:00:24 ;) 00:00:33 Oh, I should've known "coily". 00:01:35 oh apparently it means "hello" as well, it's just not on that list. 00:01:58 shacherevtov. 00:02:13 yeah, it covers everything helloy. 00:02:28 boily: you can do better than that 00:03:05 boily: for example look up the word for "dawn" hth 00:03:06 -!- Kaynato has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:03:22 שהחרב טוב? 00:03:37 . o O ( hmm... IRC doesn't seem to support RTL... ) 00:03:41 boily: that certainly introduced an extra letter 00:04:00 oops. 00:04:06 s/ה// 00:04:26 `learn Rho is the Greek letter that represents the mind, and thus psychology is called rho science. Today's reductionists consider the mind obsolete, and prefer to study new rho science. 00:04:29 Learned 'rho': Rho is the Greek letter that represents the mind, and thus psychology is called rho science. Today's reductionists consider the mind obsolete, and prefer to study new rho science. 00:04:43 boily: i think that's entirely dependent of your client setup. 00:04:51 I'm sure oerjan can make that work better. 00:05:07 -!- Kaynato has joined. 00:06:26 `? shachaf 00:06:28 shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. 00:06:43 `? boily 00:06:44 "Only sane man" boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine, apparently involving cookie dealing. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. He is seriously lacking in the f-word department. He is also a renowned Capitalist. 00:07:04 boily is a meta rho logist? 00:07:15 `slwd shachaf//s#^shachaf#Shachaf of the Dawn# 00:07:18 wisdom/shachaf//Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. The unit of fun punnery is named after him. 00:07:27 boily: ? 00:07:40 * boily ceremoniously mapoles shachaf. 1.0 shachaf. 00:07:43 i think the greek word for psychchology was...ψυχολογία 00:10:41 Today's haiku by tia: 00:10:47 You don't eat Taco Bell 00:10:57 You only rent it for a while, 00:11:04 then it returns home. 00:15:44 -!- tromp_ has joined. 00:16:21 * oerjan spots a shachaf luxon above. 00:16:30 they exist! 00:16:41 the joyluxon club? 00:16:51 @wn luxon 00:16:54 No match for "luxon". 00:17:24 use the wiki search 00:18:06 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=luxon 00:18:38 Taneb: Might I add that Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is an excellent name? 00:18:50 anyone want to give this a try? matching are the top 10k passwords, non matching is 1k randomly gen'ed "passwords" between 5-10 alphanumeric http://regex.alf.nu/2fdfc932f94406a31682ca4f25b3588cb4ec2f66 00:19:08 `learn Smell is a sense, which is particularly strong in old factory sites. 00:19:21 Learned 'smell': Smell is a sense, which is particularly strong in old factory sites. 00:19:33 that's where the rho led me, and i had to follow it. 00:19:42 `? women 00:19:43 women? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 00:20:09 `learn Women smell better than men. (See also: 'smell') 00:20:13 Learned 'women': Women smell better than men. (See also: 'smell') 00:21:10 it doesn't lead you to trhondheim? 00:21:24 Akaibu: How many points do I aim for? 00:21:27 how can it, i'm already there 00:21:49 although trondheim _is_ good at new rho science, we got a nobel prize after all 00:21:56 i'll be blunt i just plugged in the word list of http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/73435/random-passwords-vs-common-passwords into the site 00:22:11 and with the shortest soultion there i got 97401 points 00:22:47 -!- zgrep_the_Slow has changed nick to zgrep. 00:22:48 If you press esc in the input field, your solution disappears. 00:22:53 And you can't undo to get it back, 00:22:56 s/.$/./ 00:23:05 So I definitely won't be trying again. 00:24:36 shachaf: i can recover it 00:24:44 ctrl+z 00:24:51 I can't. Cmd-z 00:24:55 ctrl+y to redo 00:25:06 well rip 00:25:10 Taneb: http://www.vandoorn.talktalk.net/esoteric/ says "Read Fast" instead of "Real Fast" in one place. 00:26:19 @tell Taneb see tunes.org logs at 2016-07-14 at 16:25 hth 00:26:19 Consider it noted. 00:27:16 I'm not sure why I did that. 00:27:55 `? real fast nora's hair salon 3: shear disaster download 00:27:57 Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download is the most readable functional programming language out there. 00:30:37 @ask Taneb * poke poke poke * you still alive? 00:30:37 Consider it noted. 00:32:56 @ask boily how goes the courging? 00:32:56 Consider it noted. 00:37:37 s/rg/gar/ 00:39:37 where is hppavilion? 00:40:04 `? hppavilion[1] 00:40:06 hppavilion[1] se describe en las notas al pie. ¿Porqué no los dos? Nadie lo sabe. No es tan cluecless. 00:40:10 yes, hppavilion[1] 00:40:17 `` rgrep higgledy wisdom 00:40:23 where is hppavilion[1]? 00:40:29 wisdom/hppavilion1:higgledy piggledy / hp pavilion / doesn't like jokes that are / written in text; // uncontroversially, / one in a million is / roughly the chance they won't / be left perplexed 00:41:07 that's a scow double dactyl 00:41:23 has anyone seen hppavilion[1]? 00:41:39 did hppavilion[1] die? 00:44:01 he's alaskan, a grizzly or polar bear probably got him. 00:46:12 polar bears are typically found in eastern europe hth 00:46:31 i don't think so, shachaf 00:46:38 hm 00:46:41 maybe it's central europe 00:46:56 i think you're confusing polar and polish. 00:47:05 oh, quite right 00:47:22 the pun only works with the noun. 00:47:26 thanks for clearing that up 00:48:02 yw 00:48:35 polar bears are found in the arctic circle 00:48:40 that's why they're called polar 00:48:53 oerjan: oh, does Alaska have that thing that like "night" but it lasts 6 months? 00:49:15 copolar bears live in antarctica 00:49:18 adu: technically only the poles strictly have that. 00:49:46 oerjan: i think that weather would be considered unusual in eastern europe hth 00:50:08 no, i'm pretty sure they have weather there too 00:50:17 (parsing is fun) 00:50:46 also i don't think midnight sun counts as weather per se. 00:50:59 adu: Sweden has that, kind of. Mainly it's that day is only a few hours long. But then in the summer the sun never goes down 00:51:34 Well, if they *just* had long nights, no one would live there. 00:51:38 they had to sweden the deal 00:52:19 `rimshot 00:52:20 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rimshot: not found 00:54:42 technically norway and alaska are about the same latitude. 00:54:51 which means some parts have it, some don't. 00:54:55 but not the same attitude 00:56:53 and the parts which do are not very heavily populated. 00:57:24 probably even more so in alaska. 01:15:31 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 01:16:34 -!- jaboja has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:21:59 he's alive! 01:24:15 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 01:25:20 * oerjan wonders if adu and hppavilion[1] have entered the quintopia/boily zone 01:25:41 That's a zone? 01:25:48 Is it where we alternate who's online? 01:25:53 exactly 01:25:57 Yay! 01:26:00 I got it right! 01:30:52 quintopia: the courging is on standby... 01:31:24 * boily will call it a night. can't focus... 01:31:37 -!- boily has quit (Quit: UNDERRATED CHICKEN). 01:47:49 `` cut -b -3,5,7-9,11- <<< qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm # this prints bytes 1,2,3,5,7,8,9 and 11 to end of line 01:47:56 qwetuioasdfghjklzxcvbnm 01:48:09 how do i do that efficiently? 01:50:17 wasn't that efficient 01:50:21 ? 01:50:41 yes but i'm writing cut for that inutility thing 01:51:02 ah. 01:51:15 Elixir keeps impressing me 01:51:39 In surprising ways. It has lenses. 01:52:10 Keep a bunch of non-overlapping intervals for the parts of the file you care about, and either read or skip to the next boundary? 01:52:23 (Albeit it doesn't call them lenses, and defining them is a bit odd, and they also may have an additional capability that is like half of a prism which makes me go wtf) 01:53:39 -!- PinealGlandOptic has joined. 01:55:14 . o O ( PinealGlandOptic may be missing from lens ) 01:55:40 Sgeo: does elixir have PinealGlandOptics twh 01:58:51 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:00:00 making them non overlap is annoying :( 02:00:16 oerjan: what does the winchester hermit have to do with it 02:02:33 @google union of intervals algorithm 02:02:34 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1034802/union-of-intervals 02:02:34 Title: Union of intervals - Stack Overflow 02:02:40 izabera: try something like that maybe 02:03:08 ok i was doing something like that 02:22:57 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:33:44 You've got a partially ordered set. Initially, every element of the set is labeled with 0. 02:34:16 There's an algorithm you can perform on this set. 02:34:50 Actually, scratch the "initially all 0" bit. They're all labeled with integers, but not necessary 0. 02:35:52 Step 1: identify all pairs of two comparable elements which are labeled with the same number. Step 2: if no pairs were identified in step 1, stop. Step 3: for each pair identified in step 1, increase the label of the greater element by 1, and decrease the label of the lesser element by 1. Step 4: return to step 1. 02:36:31 It's an odd kind of sorting algorithm, I suppose. 02:36:44 So, the question. 02:37:13 Is there a shortcut for finding the result of this algorithm, which will give you the result faster than just naively evaluating the algorithm would? 02:39:20 hm does that necessarily sort 02:39:51 No. 02:40:03 If all elements initially have different labels, the algorithm does nothing. 02:40:15 i mean, even if you start with all 0. 02:40:53 also, an element in step 3 can be part of more than one pair, possibly on different sides. 02:41:10 I think no. Suppose the set is a > b, a > c, a > d, e > a. 02:41:26 Then after one iteration, a goes to 2, e goes to 1, b-d go to -1, and the algorithm stops. 02:41:42 a ends up with a higher label than e even though it's lesser. 02:41:48 doesn't a go to 1. 02:41:52 no wait 02:42:00 No; its label is increased 3 times and decreased once. 02:42:20 very well. 02:42:54 no idea on your main question. 02:43:57 There's probably no easy way, since it's a somewhat complex and arbitrary algorithm. 02:44:06 Perhaps one could even make a programming language out of it. 02:44:15 your task shall be to prove this PSPACE-complete hth 02:44:27 -!- debz has joined. 02:44:29 * oerjan evil grin 02:44:30 os 02:45:07 actually, -hard, it's obviously not a decision problem. 02:46:47 actually, there's probably some number that's increasing at each step, so not that hard. 02:47:26 the number of steps so far is increasing at each step! 02:48:00 hmm 02:48:16 Is the algorithm guaranteed to terminate? 02:48:22 * tswett thinks! 02:48:34 I believe so 02:48:40 The label of a maximal element never decreases and the label of a minimal element never increases. So the spread never decreases. 02:48:41 I think it would need a cycle in the order to go indefinitely 02:49:14 If the spread increases indefinitely, then the size of the smallest gap tends to infinity. 02:49:21 i think the "spread" is the kind of number i was thinking of. 02:49:44 if spread is the difference between highest and lowest numbers, it's not strictly increasing 02:49:51 If the spread does not increase indefinitely, the whole thing must cycle. 02:49:54 obviously there's a maximal possible gap. 02:50:26 for a given graph. 02:50:34 Is that so? 02:51:05 Hm, something just occurred to me. 02:51:16 i think so anyway. 02:51:35 Wait, something else just occurred to me. 02:51:46 Let me go back to the first thing. 02:52:00 You could think of this as "moving tokens" between elements. Tokens only ever move from lesser elements to greater elements. 02:52:08 in order to increase an element, another element must be decreased, and there is a maximal amount for each. 02:52:21 tswett: ah yes 02:52:23 and they had to be equal to start with. 02:52:29 yeah so that guarantees termination 02:52:36 hm right 02:52:44 oh wait, not on its own it doesn't 02:53:25 And they never move "with the gradient". 02:53:38 since there's an infinite supply 02:53:47 but for one element to decrease indefinitely 02:54:04 it must give charge to another element of the same charge 02:54:27 so that element must decrease indefinitely, and have two other infinitely decreasing elements to give it charge 02:54:36 Sounds about right. 02:54:46 (or some combination of other elements which give it charge faster than the first one takes it, anyway) 02:54:53 Technically, I never said that the set must be finite. But I was thinking it all along. 02:54:58 this turns into an infinite regression 02:55:11 you might be able to concoct something weird with an infinite poset 02:55:20 certainly it wouldn't necessarily terminate 02:55:37 just label each natural number with itself and set the charge of 0 to 1 02:55:51 then each iteration just moves the excess charge to the next number 02:58:36 -!- spiette has quit (Quit: :qa!). 03:00:21 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 03:01:08 The algorithm isn't defined if an element has infinitely many elements which are greater or less than it. 03:03:21 -!- debz has left. 03:03:42 -!- Kaynato has joined. 03:14:44 * oerjan got the hydra with just 555 cuts 03:28:47 -!- Kaynato has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 04:01:06 nice 04:15:04 `unicode U+3523 04:15:10 㔣 04:17:26 -!- Akaibu has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 04:23:09 -!- MDead has joined. 04:25:13 -!- MDude has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:25:14 -!- MDead has changed nick to MDude. 04:43:06 https://arin.ga/CuwF1d/raw is there any obvious problem with this? <.< 04:45:09 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 04:49:31 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:04:18 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:09:03 -!- Nithogg_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 05:11:42 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 05:28:34 -!- Anarchokawaii has joined. 05:28:57 if a object with functions is a struct 05:29:17 than what is an object without attributes 05:33:40 I don't know? 05:35:59 why does that statement end with a question mark 05:36:39 Because I don't know 05:37:18 that makes no sense 05:40:59 why do you think that makes no sense. 05:41:30 * oerjan hides. 05:41:31 We were discussing you, not me. 05:41:47 hiliza 05:42:15 Cale: I believe you, but why did you answer then? 05:42:30 Oh... but why did me answer then? 05:45:49 I hoped you know 05:48:27 because the statement "i don't know?" sounds like an introspective question 05:49:54 What does "introspective question" mean? 05:50:40 "I don't know?" seems like you don't know if you don't know. 05:51:24 O, is that what it means? 05:52:48 * Sgeo has probably done the unhelpful question mark at points 05:53:30 yes zzo38 05:54:09 -!- Akaibu has joined. 05:54:28 all question marks are helpful, so there? 05:54:33 so do you guys know the answer to my question 05:55:03 an object without attributes sounds like something for the other kind of #esoteric. 05:55:14 what's that? 05:55:19 `? #esoteric 05:55:28 #esoteric is the only channel that doesn't exist. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. 05:55:33 hm maybe not the right one 05:55:35 `? esoteric 05:55:37 This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. 05:55:48 A featureless blob? 05:56:49 It would make more sense if the first part was "If a struct with functions is an object" 05:56:57 I think? 05:57:25 why does that statement end with a question mark 05:57:39 Because I'm not sure how much I think that 05:57:49 that makes no sense 05:57:52 So I'm questioning whether it's what I think 05:58:15 why do you think that makes no sense. 05:58:30 Why do you think no sense? 05:58:53 We were discussing you, not me. 05:59:28 No we aren't 05:59:32 This channel is nothing but chat bots talking to each other endlessly 05:59:43 Why not? 06:00:25 imagine an object oriented language where their is objects with methods but no functions outside objects and no attributes but variables outside objects and no subroutines besides methods 06:01:20 I would call such an object a stateless "module", because there's no point to an object with no data attached. 06:01:27 Other than to organize functions 06:01:39 If I'm understanding you properly, and excluding stuff like let-over-lambda trickery 06:02:18 If there was ever a year for a third party to win the election, this is that year 06:02:53 if their is ever a year for glorious revolution this is the year 06:02:59 Anarchokawaii: That too 06:03:07 Anarchokawaii: Want to help me overthrow the US government? 06:03:17 Alternatively, I might just have to leave the county 06:03:18 Arise ye workers from your slumber 06:03:20 *country 06:03:20 * Sgeo actually kind of likes Hillary as President 06:03:32 Arise ye prisoners of want 06:03:52 Like, I hate when people say "If X wins the election, I'm moving to [Canada|England|Russia|China|ISIS]" 06:03:53 For reason and revolt now thunders 06:04:07 But honestly, I really hate both major candidates 06:04:10 At last ends the age of can't 06:04:38 Trump is an abomination before god, and Hillary seems a little disturbing AND plays the gender card too much 06:04:51 -!- tromp_ has joined. 06:05:44 tromp_ is cool. Trump is not cool. 06:06:15 Like, for me, it's not "If x wins the election I'm moving out" so much as "If any of the major candidates wins the election I'm moving out" 06:07:11 Hopefully, something bizarre will happen and Bernie will be nominated instead of Hillary (many of the states she won she only won because of already-bizarre and broken rules) 06:07:47 It would take something really weird for Bernie to get nominated, and there is *no way* he's running third party. 06:08:20 pikhq: Even if he did run third party, is would be unlikely for him to win third party 06:08:39 Yep. 06:08:41 (Has third party EVER won, barring third parties that were actively becoming first or second party?) 06:08:50 He'd be splitting the Dem vote. 06:09:27 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:11:20 pikhq: Yeah, that'd be a problem 06:11:31 hilary clinton was on the board of directors of walmart 06:11:37 Anarchokawaii: Really? 06:11:50 yeah 06:12:32 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/31/clinton-remained-silent-a_n_84246.html 06:13:07 * pikhq isn't exactly pleased by Hillary, but of the likely candidates she's definitely preferable. 06:13:52 Yep, found it 06:14:04 pikhq: Hillary is definitely the best option out of the major ones 06:14:19 (Translation: Hillary is better than Trump, but that's not really an accomplishment) 06:14:32 I mean, I really would love to see Trump as president 06:14:43 But only in the Seth Meyers Chicago President scenario 06:16:42 fuck hilary clinton 06:16:47 fuck the clintons 06:17:36 Anarchokawaii: Lewinski certainly took that advice to heart 06:18:02 haha 06:18:17 But yeah, seriously, fuck Hillary 06:19:11 Sure, the US should probably have had a female president by now (barring: Edith Wilson, possibly), but we shouldn't elect a woman solely to get that; we should elect a woman because her policies are something we want, and her reproductive organs are just a cool afterthought to the election 06:19:30 "Hey, does this make her the first woman president?" "Oh yeah, I think it does, cool!" 06:21:18 It's not as though that's the only reason people are voting for her though. 06:21:33 Remember, many people genuinely *like* the Clintons. 06:21:47 pikhq: Yeah, but she plays that card far too much 06:21:53 Like, one time makes me a little uncomfortable 06:21:59 There are compilations of her using that argument 06:22:49 I'm also not a fan of Bill Clinton, because he made the policy that says if you have ever been convicted of a felony- no matter how minor, no matter if you served your time and changed- you can't get access to public housing (or numerous other government benefits, IIRC) 06:27:22 Has anyone actually attempted to realize the title text of https://xkcd.com/856/? 06:27:31 Like, I'm freaking out now 06:33:15 -!- Nithogg_ has joined. 06:35:20 -!- PinealGlandOptic has quit (Quit: leaving). 06:43:16 -!- Anarchokawaii has left. 07:28:02 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:39:15 -!- centrinia has joined. 08:12:45 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 08:15:45 -!- augur has joined. 08:28:10 @ping 08:28:10 pong 08:28:17 Hmm 08:28:31 hmm? 08:28:42 A web page isn't loading 08:29:03 oh. agreed, hmm. 08:30:59 @tell shachaf I no longer update that one, https://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/esolangs.html is canonical 08:30:59 Consider it noted. 08:31:11 @tell boily I'm fairly sure I'm alive 08:31:11 Consider it noted. 08:32:08 @tell Taneb ok, but it's the third result in https://encrypted.google.com/search?q="real+fast+nora's+hair+salon+3:+shear+disaster+download" 08:32:20 @tell Taneb maybe you should add a redirect or something 08:32:40 @tell shachaf that might be a good idea 08:32:40 Consider it noted. 08:32:46 @messages-loud 08:32:46 Taneb said 5s ago: that might be a good idea 08:32:55 I'm right here, you don't need to tell lambdabot to tell me things. 08:33:01 Yes I do 08:33:14 Also, hmm 08:33:20 My mouse seems to have stopped working 08:33:21 Again 08:33:41 I mean, sure, technically you need to. 08:33:46 But you don't need to need to. 08:35:57 Taneb: when are you visiting north america again? 08:36:09 Sometime after August 08:36:42 Do you have an upper bound? 08:37:20 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 08:39:21 No, but I do have a Rubik's cube 08:41:25 Taneb invented Fueue? 08:41:32 `? fueue 08:41:37 `? tanebvention 08:41:38 fueue? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 08:41:40 Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. 08:41:51 I don't think esolangs count as tanebventions 08:42:12 `sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/sub/the/Fueue, the/ 08:42:13 sed: -e expression #1, char 11: unknown option to `s' 08:42:20 `sled wisdom/tanebvention//s/the/Fueue, the/ 08:42:26 wisdom/tanebvention//Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, weetoflakes, Tanebventions, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: math. He never invents anything involving sex. 08:42:29 Why not? Because you actually invented them? 08:42:45 Because they're more like pieces of art 08:43:04 So is necessity. 08:43:09 Not to mention D-modules. 08:43:18 I can't believe D-modules are gone from Tanebventions. 08:43:24 They were the centerpiece. 08:43:29 `? tanebventions: maths 08:43:32 Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms. 08:43:55 And it ruined the whole meter (or is it metre?) of the wisdom entry. 08:44:04 I previously had it set to music, in my head. 08:44:35 How quickly can you solve your Rubik's cube? 08:45:30 My best is 1 minute 40 08:45:59 I think I used to solve in around 2 minutes. 08:46:09 That was over a decade ago, of course. 08:46:21 When oerjan roamed the Earth. 08:46:36 (I guess he trondheims the Earth now.) 08:46:43 I'm not sure I even remember how to solve it now. 08:46:53 I probably could figure it out. 08:51:41 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events includes, towards the very end, actual legit predictions 08:52:06 See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future 08:52:12 I wouldn't call those "dates" exactly. 08:53:12 Oh! We're in the middle of a jubilee! 08:53:18 shachaf: By that logic, neither is carbon dating 08:54:01 shachaf, just did it in 1:55 08:54:36 Taneb: do you still want magic: the gathering jams 08:54:37 I'm surprised it doesn't include the day we past the Point-Of-No-Return for expenditure of resources and destruction of planetary integrity 08:54:42 (Or maybe it's in the past one) 08:55:21 That link I posted is pretty depressing. 08:55:22 shachaf, can you make M:tG into jam? 08:55:34 It's already a jam. 08:55:46 Wouldn't you need to add pectin? 08:56:56 I don't believe so. 08:56:59 OK, you know what? 08:57:06 nth century is confusing 08:57:19 The years from 1 to 99 will henceforth be known as the "0th century" 08:57:37 And all subsequent centuries will be calculated using all but the last 2 digits 08:57:43 We're in the 20th century right now. Thre. 08:57:47 *There. 08:58:59 I think you might find it hard to gain adoption for your idea, hppavilion[1] 08:59:15 Taneb: Yeah, well... 08:59:18 Yeah, you're right 08:59:20 But still. 08:59:23 It's stupid. 08:59:37 Wikipedia often mixes them in the same paragraph, which leads to confusion 09:00:23 Imagine: "In 1604, a manuscript quoting a late 16th-century physician..." 09:00:32 * hppavilion[1] prays that he got those in the right order 09:02:09 Huh, the world is definitely not going to end this year 09:02:41 It *is* confusing. 09:02:47 And people are elitist about it, too. 09:03:03 hppavilion[1], not many words rhyme with "sixteen" 09:03:04 They learned that "xth century" means "the century whose first two digits are x-1" 09:03:28 And now they look down on anyone who forgets that or finds it difficult to do in the middle of a conversation about something else. 09:03:31 Plain elitism. 09:07:21 shachaf: Plane Elitism 09:07:37 Yeah, just because you're a circle means you're better than everybody else. 09:07:44 Seriously, Jesus... 09:08:10 I just sent a message to Trump's campaign and gave him some new crazy shit to say. I hope someone reads it and passes it up xD 09:09:25 hppavilion[1]: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/rights-exempt/nat-geo-staff-graphics-illustrations/2016/07/juno/01-juno.ngsversion.1467724642813.gif 09:09:34 you're really not a fan of your capital city, huh 09:10:20 shachaf: Not particularly, and it's going to get worse in November (or January, I guess) 09:10:27 That gif is amazing 09:10:36 you can't even spell it right 09:10:51 or maybe it's just nasa 09:11:44 Wait, what? 09:11:49 What can't I spell right? 09:11:56 nothing 09:12:06 shachaf: Did I spell something wrong? You're freaking me out 09:26:01 `dateu 09:26:03 2016-07-15 08:26:02.086582000+00:00 09:26:10 thx 09:29:59 SEEEEEEEEEEEPPPUKKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 09:31:11