< 1465776405 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainscrambler14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47195&oldid=20934 5* 0378.67.213.26 5* (+68) 10 < 1465777051 0 :augur!~augur@c-50-136-228-234.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1465777460 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 QUIT :Quit: hbot: rm * < 1465778056 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:3037:c587:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465778614 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465779002 0 :dnm!~dnm@98.203.141.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465779566 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? complete heyting algebra < 1465779585 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :complete heyting algebra? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465779605 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? locale < 1465779607 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Locales are just frames, which are just complete Heyting algebras. Taneb accidentally invented them by asking about lattices. The only locale available in #esoteric is en_NZ.UTF-8. < 1465779609 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? frame < 1465779614 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A frame is just a complete Heyting algebra. However, frame homomorphisms don't preserve implication, if you know what I mean. < 1465779616 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pointless topology < 1465779618 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pointless topology is the kind of topology Taneb invents. < 1465779628 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? heyting algebra < 1465779630 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyting algebra? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465779641 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/locale//s/However, f/F/ < 1465779643 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/locale//Locales are just frames, which are just complete Heyting algebras. Taneb accidentally invented them by asking about lattices. The only locale available in #esoteric is en_NZ.UTF-8. < 1465779650 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1465779656 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the idiom in Java is for when a method you're calling throws a checked exception and you don't want to handle it. < 1465779659 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/frame//s/However, f/F/ < 1465779663 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/frame//A frame is just a complete Heyting algebra. Frame homomorphisms don't preserve implication, if you know what I mean. < 1465779689 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idiom is try { ... } catch (StrangeException e) {} hth < 1465779710 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sober space < 1465779712 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sober spaces are the dual of Stoned spaces. Taneb invented them. < 1465779716 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stone space < 1465779718 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stone spaces were invented by P. T. Barnum as a hoax. < 1465779799 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? help < 1465779800 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help is on the way. We don't know where the way is, though. You might try `help instead. < 1465779838 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping that that wouldn't exist, because then I could have done: `le/rn help/The wisdom entry for "help" isn't very helpful. < 1465779854 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's kind of a tired joke, isn't it? < 1465779867 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, pretty much the whole joke is that it's self-referential. < 1465779880 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we're used to self-reference in here. We don't need hundreds of jokes about it. < 1465779997 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn complete heyting algebra/A complete Heyting algebra is just a cartesian closed complete lattice. < 1465779999 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «complete heyting algebra» < 1465780015 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that true? < 1465780084 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lattice < 1465780086 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lattice? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465780971 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1465781414 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465781519 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Changing server < 1465781640 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone just made a pact on the internet < 1465781660 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If non-US people call common football "soccer" when calling it "football" would make things abiguous < 1465781682 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll call our American football "handegg" in similarly ambiguous situations < 1465781745 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found something called powdertoy (http://powdertoy.co.uk/) it has had computers made in it, so ima make a brainfuck interpreter < 1465781843 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are computers written in the Powder Toy? < 1465781848 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1465781862 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional ones, fastest one i have seen is 1hz < 1465781873 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465781897 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The synergy computer being the best example (29-bit!) < 1465781955 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The synergy computer also comes with a instruction set < 1465782052 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, make the fastest one i have seen 1.5hz < 1465782122 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck interpreter sounds doable < 1465782151 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 255 instructions? < 1465782157 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in a custom computer < 1465782164 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a string of binary counters or something < 1465782167 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :custom < 1465782170 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1465782201 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, leme pull up the synergy instruction set and info, you might find it intresting ,and brainfuck is doable+1 :P < 1465782214 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://powdertoy.co.uk/Discussions/Thread/View.html?Thread=19974 < 1465782244 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the synergy computer has most of its space taken up by a screen, by the way < 1465782351 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i advise you to build the circuitry from scratch < 1465782367 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'' 001111: blows the computer up '' i wonder what happens if i print that twice < 1465782371 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ik :P < 1465782381 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output will be a little funky < 1465782385 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you print it once the computer blows up < 1465782388 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there won't be a twice < 1465782429 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont see any TNT, NITR, or any other explosive < 1465782436 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there _might_ be a twice < 1465782582 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how the bit representation in this works < 1465782593 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn TPT's physics < 1465782614 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have 100 or so elements to work with (= < 1465782669 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've played around with tpt for years < 1465782686 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :username? < 1465782693 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never uploaded anything < 1465782700 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1465782713 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this encodes words in the spectrum of FILT < 1465782727 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i suspect is not accessible ingame < 1465782752 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why is there read/write FILT ram? filt is changed by temp < 1465782768 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the memory, it's all at 22 degrees < 1465782779 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, your right < 1465782808 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :filt has 5-10 modes tho < 1465782843 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always like to create a box filled with water, and put a heat source at the bottom and a cold source at the top. < 1465782849 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do people in countries outside the US refer to black people as "African American"? < 1465782882 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsweet, convection, as far as i know, is not modeled < 1465782886 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless your making rain < 1465782890 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Primarily European countries, where referring to most people as "American" would usually get you funny looks < 1465782909 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I highly doubt it. < 1465782921 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I would have too < 1465782954 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But I was watching a YouTube video today and they mentioned a guy (who I assume was british) correcting someone who called him "African American" on the grounds that he was neither african nor american < 1465782988 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, people tend to think you're an idiot if you do so < 1465783031 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_, the self-destruct works by cloning in some explosive btw < 1465783037 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1465783046 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SING? < 1465783055 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1465783065 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like Powder Toy still has that thing where turning water into steam requires no heat. < 1465783077 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.. < 1465783087 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :water becomes steam at 100C as far as i know < 1465783096 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as much as logic tells me, that should be true < 1465783112 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah, I mean that thing where heating water from 99C to 101C is as easy as heating it from 97C to 99C. < 1465783119 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: you have a tpt account? < 1465783125 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1465783152 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, using "African American" instead of "black" is not a great way of being more "correct" -- essentially nobody has a preference for one over the other. < 1465783152 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do :P < 1465783293 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well seeing as most black people I know aren't American... < 1465783302 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found the explosives Phantom_Hoover , its FIRW < 1465783303 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder all of a sudden. < 1465783313 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :\oren\: I was speaking purely in an American racial context, mind. < 1465783320 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :etrd is great because it completely fucks things up < 1465783330 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to agree < 1465783333 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How easy would it be to power a power plant using boiling hot water? < 1465783335 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the PLSM! < 1465783341 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Obviously if you use "African American" to describe someone who is in no way connected to America, you're being pretty dumb. < 1465783347 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsweet < 1465783352 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dtec < 1465783359 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this, now? < 1465783367 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DTEC, or detector < 1465783378 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Canada afaict the correct term is always "Black". People aren't offended by "african canadian" but they'll look at you like you're an idiot < 1465783381 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should mention, I'm talking about real life. < 1465783387 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1465783393 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now embarassed* < 1465783412 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, my question was ambiguous. < 1465783417 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boiling hot water is, of course, not very useful for powering a steam turbine. < 1465783424 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Black" is slightly preferred over "African American" in informal contexts, and vice versa in formal contexts, but both are considered generally correct and acceptable in the US. < 1465783464 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a few people hypercorrect and use "African American" always, even when incorrect, and come across as idiots. < 1465783481 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i just convinced it to erase its keyboard < 1465783491 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally not idiot proof < 1465783494 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tip: Barack Obama is African American. Mandela is not African American.) < 1465783495 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1465783506 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way < 1465783518 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is currently strobing due to idiot edition usage < 1465783545 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So given a bunch of boiling-hot water, and an endless supply of room-temperature air, how do you heat some of the water so that it boils? < 1465783567 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuclear fusion < 1465783605 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1465783621 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pull the pump's turn on switch < 1465783635 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I suppose some of the water would then technically no longer qualify as "water" due to nuclear transmutation but still < 1465783640 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Heat pump? < 1465783667 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, define 'endless supply' < 1465783675 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though really you can probably do things a lot simpler than that. < 1465783680 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no. < 1465783683 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You *have* a nice heat gradiant there. < 1465783783 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's raining!!!! < 1465783791 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could, for instance, just run a Stirling engine with one cylinder in the water and one cylinder in the air. < 1465783831 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not even need steam for it to work. < 1465783839 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1465783850 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar RJTT < 1465783851 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :RJTT 130100Z 02022KT 3800 SHRA BR FEW004 BKN006 BKN008 20/20 Q0998 TEMPO 3000 SHRA BR FEW003 BKN005 RMK 1ST004 5ST006 6ST008 A2948 < 1465783882 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Here's an interesting fact: you're not breathing real air. It's too expensive to pump this far down. We just take carbon dioxide out of a room, freshen it up a little, and pump it back in. So you'll be breathing the same room full of air for the rest of your life. I thought that was interesting." < 1465783896 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my answer from a while back < 1465783905 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for not from < 1465783976 0 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's what astronauts do so it can't be so bad < 1465784030 0 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-52-2-213-98.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaceships tend to stink though < 1465784030 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#claustophobia < 1465784094 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: And of course if efficiency doesn't matter a thermoelectric generator will do you nicely. < 1465784164 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465784303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1465784312 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone made a video called "Who owns english?" < 1465784347 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the answer of such question? < 1465784392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What question? < 1465784422 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who english? < 1465784448 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes: It's a stupid question because you can't own a language < 1465784463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, unless it was invented recently, and even then it's stupid to try to control it < 1465784464 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ +1 < 1465784472 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: Tell that to Paramount. < 1465784485 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can own a language. < 1465784489 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: *sigh* what did Paramount do? < 1465784521 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sue a fan film for using Klingon. < 1465784554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ...seriously? < 1465784568 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friendly advise for anyone with a bit of media with a very highly invested fan base: don't sue them. They *are* your audience. < 1465784571 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously. < 1465784597 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree they should not force to control/own it < 1465784615 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe languages should be legally exempt from copyright < 1465784615 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :star trek is dead anyway < 1465784620 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell them not to cling on to the past < 1465784632 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the amicus briefs is partly in Klingon. < 1465784637 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ...was that a pun? < 1465784641 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: There's a new series coming which might not suck. < 1465784655 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Or was it an un-pun? A place where you made it so you could put a pun, but then didn't? < 1465784776 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... You can't own a word (you can prevent people from using it to advertise themselves by trademark, but you can't prevent people from ever saying it) < 1465784783 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus you can't own a vocabulary < 1465784792 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus you can't own a language < 1465785040 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a wierd language: https://esolangs.org/wiki/SPAM/1 < 1465785533 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The behavior of pressure in TPT seems really weird. < 1465785571 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1465785588 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try making a container of superheated WARP, and then opening it after a little < 1465785602 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in view 2 (Acessed by hitting the 2 key) < 1465785605 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a bunch of water that's stuck up in the air thanks to prsesure. < 1465785621 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pressure does funny things < 1465785840 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what it's supposed to represent. < 1465785849 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pressure, obviously < 1465785849 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TPT lets you have a pressure gradient in an unmoving fluid, which can't happen in real life. < 1465785861 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So clearly it's not the pressure of that fluid. < 1465785867 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Air pressure < 1465785870 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its air pressure < 1465785871 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And besides that, areas that are "empty" still have pressure. < 1465785986 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell whether it passes through solids or not. < 1465786007 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have a chunk of ice with a pressure of -11 in the middle, and it just stays at -11, which makes it seem like pressure can't pass through solids. < 1465786026 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TPT pressure is reallllly strange < 1465786040 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it DOES pass through any solids (besides TTAN and WALL) < 1465786064 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why does ice maintain pressure like that? < 1465786070 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idk < 1465786092 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pressure goes straight through GOLD and other solids < 1465786128 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill consult the almighty wiki < 1465786154 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICE does not hold pressure < 1465786253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long it is until Microsoft puts ads in the title screen of Minecraft < 1465786287 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idk < 1465786292 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets all hope they dont < 1465786305 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would PREVIOUSLY be a good game then < 1465786306 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus < 1465786313 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minecraft is in java < 1465786324 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ads in MC title screen = Anti-ad md < 1465786328 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mod < 1465786413 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: They'd add "Don't remove our ads with a mod" to the ToS < 1465786455 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon_: Because, of course, just because you've legally purchased the software, they can still tell you what you can and cannot do with it even for your own personal use < 1465786620 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, look at this. Even empty space can have a pressure gradient. < 1465786654 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like somehow the ice is sucking up huge amounts of air. < 1465786710 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465786778 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there's definitely a whole lot of negative pressure being generated here. < 1465787161 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... I wonder if a FOSS community could pull off a Minecraft-like game that doesn't turn out terrible and doesn't feel like it's become a cash cow rather than a fun project for the devs < 1465787452 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465787807 0 :deltab!~deltab@cpc1-smal2-0-0-cust155.19-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Truecraft aims to be that < 1465793023 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plan to be moddable and modular from the outset < 1465793133 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i cash-oblivious software < 1465793264 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1465793373 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this channel's first occurrence of "i,i"? < 1465793392 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel doesn't exist. < 1465793402 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1465793406 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that doesn't exist. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. May contain crude drawings of nuts. < 1465793456 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proposal: it's about 100 m (30 ft) across. Hth. < 1465793473 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be inaccurate. < 1465793493 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: Can you think of any good pointless topology puns for my recent wisdom entries? < 1465793504 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How accurate is the wisdom entry for i,i? < 1465793556 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The important question is how inaccurate it is. < 1465793571 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? frame < 1465793573 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A frame is just a complete Heyting algebra. Frame homomorphisms don't preserve implication, if you know what I mean. < 1465793574 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? locale < 1465793576 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Locales are just frames, which are just complete Heyting algebras. Taneb accidentally invented them by asking about lattices. The only locale available in #esoteric is en_NZ.UTF-8. < 1465793584 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pointless topology < 1465793586 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pointless topology is the kind of topology Taneb invents. < 1465793587 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sober space < 1465793590 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sober spaces are the dual of Stoned spaces. Taneb invented them. < 1465793592 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stone space < 1465793594 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stone spaces were invented by P. T. Barnum as a hoax. < 1465793598 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? barnum < 1465793600 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :barnum? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465793948 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? i,i < 1465793950 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i i,i what is i,i < 1465794227 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (>>= (\c -> case c of 'i' -> "i,i"; ',' -> " is "; 's' -> "ksk"; x -> [x])) "i" < 1465794229 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["i","i,i","i,i is i,i","i,i is i,i i,iksk i,i is i,i","i,i is i,i i,iksk i,... < 1465794354 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465795588 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me of that infinite self-spelling sequence... < 1465795643 0 :tswett!~tswett@192.241.237.138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cee, e, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, cee, o, em, em, a, comma, space, es, pee, a, cee, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, cee, ... < 1465797201 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a better way to generate that sequence without appending to a string? < 1465797517 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465797919 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. I think I have seen stuff like that before (and have made up stuff like that before too), but not quite that one. < 1465798109 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I make a puzzle game of the kind that satisfies the following: rules :: Command -> Puzzle -> Either Bool Puzzle; isSolution :: [Command] -> Puzzle -> Bool; isSolution [] _ = False; isSolution (h:t) x = either id (isSolution t) $ rules h x; and the current state of the puzzle is always fully visible to the player. What is this kind of rules called? < 1465798165 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do not mean to imply that it is necessarily programmed in Haskell, but the notation of Haskell seems useful to describe what I am trying to describe here.) < 1465799435 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let describeChar c = maybe "" id . lookup c $ [('c',"cee"),('e',"e"),(',',"comma"),(' ',"space"),('o',"o"),('m',"em"),('a',"a"),('s',"es"),('p',"pee")]; describeString s = intercalate ", " (map describeChar s) in fix (\xs -> ' ' : describeString xs) -- not quite, but almost < 1465799437 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : " space, es, pee, a, cee, e, comma, space, e, es, comma, space, pee, e, e, c... < 1465799561 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let describeChar c = maybe "" id . lookup c $ [('c',"cee"),('e',"e"),(',',"comma"),(' ',"space"),('o',"o"),('m',"em"),('a',"a"),('s',"es"),('p',"pee")]; describeString s = intercalate ", " (map describeChar s) in fix (\xs -> describeString ('c' : xs)) -- also not quite < 1465799563 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "cee, cee, e, e, comma, space, cee, e, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, e, ... < 1465799752 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right... < 1465799773 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let describeChar c = maybe "" id . lookup c $ [('c',"cee"),('e',"e"),(',',"comma"),(' ',"space"),('o',"o"),('m',"em"),('a',"a"),('s',"es"),('p',"pee")]; describeString s = intercalate ", " (map describeChar s) in map head . transpose . iterate describeString $ "c" < 1465799775 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "cee, e, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, cee, o, em, em, ... < 1465799795 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go :) < 1465799868 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ^^ got it < 1465800014 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465800040 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: OK, that's weird < 1465800183 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A prison escape or prison break is the act of an inmate leaving prison through unofficial or illegal ways." < 1465800758 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: do you mind writing it in a normal language? < 1465800807 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in Singapore caning is permitted for boys only" < 1465800982 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know why? < 1465801148 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Because the people in charge in Singapore are sexist assholes? < 1465801195 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to permit caning on girls too? < 1465801212 0 :lambda-11235!~lambda-11@47-208-1-226.erkacmtk04.res.dyn.suddenlink.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1465801212 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No, but I'd rather it be both or neither < 1465801746 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk2SuWwwdMk and now I'm immediately planning to move to Russia < 1465801781 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, or any other Nordic country (Norway, Finland, Sweden) < 1465801824 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For reasons given by various maps < 1465802297 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, the quality of software used tends to go down as the GDP of a nation goes up < 1465802929 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1465803306 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the reason why the character ROM on CGA has two unused address bits is because the same ROM contains the MDPA patterns, so that both cards can use the same ROM. < 1465803781 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465803917 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Was it a mask ROM? < 1465803922 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@2601:647:4b00:63aa:eade:27ff:fe08:b48b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that makes me suspect that. < 1465804594 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? implication < 1465804606 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :implication? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465804610 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: What's a normal language? This relies on lazy evaluation... < 1465804629 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Implication is a useful rhetorical device, if you know what I mean. < 1465804629 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal as in readable by humans <.< < 1465804632 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'implication': Implication is a useful rhetorical device, if you know what I mean. < 1465804632 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I program in Haskell for a living... < 1465804640 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly not human < 1465804662 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can explain the Haskell if you want < 1465804673 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks :D < 1465804687 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let describeChar c = maybe "" id . lookup c $ [('c',"cee"),('e',"e"),(',',"comma"),(' ',"space"),('o',"o"),('m',"em"),('a',"a"),('s',"es"),('p',"pee")] < 1465804688 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1465804724 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this function just does what it looks like, giving a string that describes the given character, or the empty string if it's not found in the list (though that never happens) < 1465804733 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> describeChar ',' < 1465804735 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "comma" < 1465804739 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1465804753 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let describeString s = intercalate ", " (map describeChar s) < 1465804754 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1465804779 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This describes a string by applying that function to each character in it, and then sticking ", " in between each of the things it got, concatenating the results < 1465804789 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> describeString "cee" < 1465804790 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "cee, e, e" < 1465804797 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1465804819 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is actually creating the same infinite string < 1465804832 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's using the same amount of space < 1465804840 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate describeString $ "c" < 1465804841 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["c","cee","cee, e, e","cee, e, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, e","cee, e... < 1465804881 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate f x = [x, f x, f (f x), ...] < 1465804893 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just applies the function over and over, giving an infinite list of the results < 1465804942 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but i was hoping for a solution that didn't require infinite memory < 1465804943 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we do something quirky and transpose this list of lists, which is actually going to get us a list of infinite strings < 1465804961 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> transpose . iterate describeString $ "c" < 1465804962 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc... < 1465804981 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first element of every one of the strings is after all c... < 1465804985 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1465804988 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 5 . transpose . iterate describeString $ "c" < 1465804989 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc... < 1465804991 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1465804994 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, how the hell does OEIS choose sequence numbers? < 1465804996 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (take 5) . transpose . iterate describeString $ "c" < 1465804997 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["ccccc","eeeee","eeeee",",,,,,"," ","eeeee",",,,,,"," ","eeeee",",,... < 1465805005 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: user submitted < 1465805020 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course, these infinite strings are lazily constructed, and we're really only interested in the first element of each < 1465805024 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: No, as in what the A-code is < 1465805029 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map head . transpose . iterate describeString $ "c" < 1465805031 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "cee, e, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, cee, o, em, em, ... < 1465805047 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: but you still need unbounded memory x.x < 1465805055 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where pi_10 < 1465805055 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :(!!3)<$>transpose[show$foldr(\k a->2*10^2^n+a*k`div`(2*k+1))0[1..2^n]|n<-[0..]] < 1465805069 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is Fibonacci A000045? < 1465805083 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: first come first served < 1465805090 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Ah? < 1465805097 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't know if it is mask ROM or what it is < 1465805125 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: Then the first person to add one (A000001) was rather focused on Group Theory < 1465805152 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I'd think A000001 would be, I dunno, the empty sequence, or the natural numbers, or something like that < 1465805152 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (('c':).drop 1.describeString) < 1465805154 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "cee, e, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, cee, o, em, em, ... < 1465805179 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely assumes that's what Cale started with < 1465805197 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map head . transpose . iterate describeString $ "c" < 1465805198 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "cee, e, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, cee, o, em, em, ... < 1465805222 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: now golf pi_10 twh < 1465805234 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1465805235 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah, haha < 1465805241 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1465805248 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's the easy one I was looking for initially < 1465805300 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but couldn't quite find it -- in hindsight, that's obviously where the drop 1 needs to go :) < 1465805335 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thissbnioaiaaoyuwswai < 1465805355 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that helps in some scenarios but not in others and I am as of yet unsure which scenario we are in" < 1465805441 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this sentence < 1465805465 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you generate one of those self-counting sentences I wonder? < 1465805467 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: There is probably a way to compute the nth element in O(log n) space... < 1465805467 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sentence was not invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it. < 1465805485 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like it would be NP < 1465805487 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: constraint programming? < 1465805494 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I guess? < 1465805512 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, you could make an algorithm that will generate some such sentences, but not one that will generate al < 1465805514 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*all < 1465805539 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cannot" is a stupid word < 1465805544 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: well you can do some math to find bounds on what the counts can be. < 1465805546 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"x cannot perform action a" < 1465805554 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "a dozen" < 1465805591 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can do constraint programming to prune it all down. < 1465805592 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means "x is incapable of performing action a", but it feels like it should be read "x is capable of not performing action a" < 1465805610 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one of those SMT solvers which i've never used. < 1465805623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which i guess is a form of constraint programming) < 1465805684 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, those solvers can solve essentially all NP problems that aren't _designed_ to hit the hard cases. < 1465805688 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu < 1465805744 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if they can list all solutions (assuming there's a reasonable number, which i assume is the case with those self-counting things) < 1465805892 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : izabera: Then the first person to add one (A000001) was rather focused on Group Theory <-- perhaps it was just that sequence that gave em the idea that there needed to be such a site < 1465805940 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of groups what's with S_6? < 1465805997 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : izabera: There is probably a way to compute the nth element in O(log n) space... <-- i think your iterated version might count, with enough garbage collection. < 1465806016 0 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems unlikely... < 1465806031 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I don't think it does... < 1465806090 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1465806131 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the idea is that you'd really want to generate copies of the sequence in "parallel" < 1465806137 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :without sharing between them. < 1465806154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not _exactly_ that version, but something similar. < 1465806313 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, yeah < 1465806314 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fix' f = f (fix' f) in fix' (('c':).drop 1.describeString) < 1465806316 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "cee, e, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, e, comma, space, cee, o, em, em, ... < 1465806343 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that, assuming that fix' avoids sharing < 1465806390 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that was my version. < 1465806483 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can do it with a stack. < 1465806562 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, you need the depth. < 1465806781 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that the part of the string that you're describing and the part of the string you're constructing get arbitrarily far apart over time < 1465806853 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is S_6 the only symmetric group that has a non-inner automorphism < 1465806868 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Because shenanigans < 1465806913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: yes, but as long as they're not shared with each other, you only need to keep around a bounded part of each. < 1465806920 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and GC should do that. < 1465807197 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if you want it to be logarithmic _time_ as well... then you need some matrix/vector thinking. < 1465807198 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automorphisms_of_the_symmetric_and_alternating_groups#No_other_outer_automorphisms has a quick explanation < 1465807315 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :octomorphism < 1465807357 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are groups so complicated? < 1465807361 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Basically it comes down to the coincidence that the number of transpositions, i.e. the conjugacy class containing (1,2) in S_6, happens to have the same size as the conjugacy class containing (1,2)(3,4)(5,6) < 1465807362 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sesquimorphism < 1465807377 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 elements each < 1465807455 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are prime decompositions so complicated? It's that problem, only worse. < 1465807472 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i fell into the oerjan trap <-- . o O ( sometimes he sets traps without knowing ) < 1465807484 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's somewhere between a monomorphism and a bimorphism) < 1465807509 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Obviously an "oerjan trap" is designed to trap oerjans. < 1465807514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1465807548 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on expanding https://oeis.org/A121064 < 1465807549 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1465807565 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the reals, Lambek's lemma, histograms, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. He never invents anything involving sex. < 1465807577 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't put everything Taneb invents into tanebventions. < 1465807579 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't fit. < 1465807612 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Perhaps we should divide it into sections? < 1465807619 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions[2] < 1465807625 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebventions[2]? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465807678 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :( < 1465807800 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cp < 1465807803 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: missing file operand \ Try `cp --help' for more information. < 1465807821 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cp wisdom/tanebventions wisdom/tanebventions(0) < 1465807823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 4: `cp wisdom/tanebventions wisdom/tanebventions(0)' < 1465807832 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: stop. < 1465807832 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cp wisdom/tanebventions wisdom/tanebventions|0 < 1465807834 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 4: 0: command not found \ cp: cannot stat `wisdom/tanebventions': No such file or directory < 1465807840 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *fine* < 1465807855 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest if we split it, we split out the math ones. < 1465807878 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Into tanebscoveries? < 1465807886 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tanebulations? < 1465807897 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneberivations? taneboofs? < 1465807913 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1465807924 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was just thinking adding (math) < 1465807955 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the rate it's growing, we'll have to split it tanebventually. < 1465807991 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, what's the International Shachaf Prototype? < 1465808002 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As analogous to the International Kilogram Prototype) < 1465808068 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tanebventions (math)/Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, the reals, Lambek's lemma, pointless topology, and histograms. < 1465808074 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned «tanebventions (math)» < 1465808082 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1465808089 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So the number of transpositions in S_n is (n;2) = n(n-1)/2. For S_7, for example, we have 21 transpositions, and then the sizes of conjugacy classes of elements of order 2 which could potentially be swapped with those by an automorphism if they had the same size are (7;2)(5;2)/2! = 105, and (7;2)(5;2)(3;2)/3! = 105 again. < 1465808136 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this seems to get only worse as we go on to higher n -- probably there is an argument you could make to bound it < 1465808154 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn tanebvention/Tanebventions include automatic squirrel feeders, necessity, Go, submarine jousting, the universe, weetoflakes, persistence, the BBC, progress, and this sentence. See also tanebventions (math). He never invents anything involving sex. < 1465808158 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned «tanebvention» < 1465808168 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the smaller n, there are only a few to go through. < 1465808253 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Perhaps Go should go under math? Maybe? < 1465808276 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hpstructions < 1465808277 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpstructions? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465808303 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But really, what is the standard pun that is exactly equal to 1 shachaf? < 1465808337 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : By the way, what's the International Shachaf Prototype? <-- ask boily, he keeps doing the measurements... < 1465808380 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily What is the International Shachaf Prototype? < 1465808380 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1465808381 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i don't see why Go is math. < 1465808404 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't see why the torus is math < 1465808413 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: maybe there is no prototype, they've worked hard at replacing them. < 1465808423 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? torus < 1465808425 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically, a torus is just a torus. Taneb invented it. < 1465808433 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's topology QED < 1465808440 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's kind of a problem with that < 1465808446 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, a sphere is also a torus < 1465808463 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the center of the entire shape and the center of the band coincide < 1465808515 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the tori say: "we were spheres once, and then they torus a new one" < 1465808516 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: the Go entry is a mixture of several things, none of which are _specifically_ math. < 1465808516 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a horn torus where the distance between the center of the band and the center of the entire shape is equal to the radius of the band and a spindle torus where the radius is less than the disstance < 1465808555 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: i think shachaf may have shown us the prototype tdnh < 1465808561 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes < 1465808603 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if a sphere is a torus, then you can't really say that a cube isn't topologically equivalent to a torus < 1465808613 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you can't do that, then pretty much everything is the same as everything else < 1465808618 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sphere isn't a torus. < 1465808622 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topologically speaking, everything is the same < 1465808624 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sphere isn't homeomorphic to a torus, it's at best a degenerate one. < 1465808628 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no it's not. < 1465808630 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes < 1465808642 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"homeomorphic" is a scow word. < 1465808658 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gitmo < 1465808660 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gitmo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465808664 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? guantanamo bay < 1465808666 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guantanamo bay? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465808671 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ioccc < 1465808674 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioccc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465808678 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1465808695 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd put something there, but I'm bad at obfuscating C code < 1465808742 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we really don't have it? < 1465808756 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -i ioc wisdom < 1465808788 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465808789 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -i ioc wisdom; echo Hi < 1465808823 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465808830 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rgrep -i ioc wisdom; echo Hi < 1465808832 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/iocccclist:iocccccclist is update notification for when a new year of the International Obfuscated Contest is announced, or the winners for a year is announced, or the source codes of winners are released. http://www.iocccc.org/#news \ Hi < 1465808839 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1465808879 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rust < 1465808882 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is C++ as designed by the makers of Haskell. < 1465808886 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haskell < 1465808888 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1465808897 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ruby < 1465808899 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby is a programming language from Japan, that eventually decided to support non-ascii characters. < 1465808903 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? java < 1465808907 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :java is a programming-language shaped collection of misfeatures < 1465808912 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? html < 1465808914 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML is short for "hope this mess loads". < 1465808923 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/io* < 1465808927 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ioccclist < 1465808948 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/html < 1465808955 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If rules are meant to be broken... < 1465808962 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we establish that as a rule... < 1465809003 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1465809012 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? flag < 1465809022 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flag? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465809031 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, maybe there should be `?* to glob your argument < 1465809174 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The IOCCC is the Industrial Ordovician COBOL Conference Circuit. Not to be confused with OIC. See also ioccclist. < 1465809179 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ioccc': The IOCCC is the Industrial Ordovician COBOL Conference Circuit. Not to be confused with OIC. See also ioccclist. < 1465809188 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oic < 1465809191 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465809207 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? heck < 1465809210 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh. < 1465809222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gosh < 1465809225 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465809231 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1465809239 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish `? had a redlink mechanism < 1465809244 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn OIC, OIC means Oh I see. < 1465809247 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'oic': OIC, OIC means Oh I see. < 1465809266 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/html < 1465809283 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan oerjan fizzie < 1465809333 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled wisdom/java//s/./J/;s/$/./ < 1465809340 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/java//Java is a programming-language shaped collection of misfeatures. < 1465809353 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should it be "programming-language-shaped"? < 1465809393 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: `wisdom supports globs hth < 1465809422 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom flag < 1465809426 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flagpole//A flagpole is like a tadpole, but with a flag on top. < 1465809433 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i don't think it's in the name. < 1465809445 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a version of `wisdom that searches wisdom text. < 1465809462 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -s wisdom | sort -rn < 1465809468 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try listing it in private instead. < 1465809491 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If so, it needs to be safe against timing out. < 1465809496 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? אrjan < 1465809500 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​אrjan is oerjan's first uncountable twin. He's inconsistent with the ZFC axioms. < 1465809646 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ism < 1465809650 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ism? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465809932 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Isms are philosophies, religions or ideologies that have branched off from older ones, such as Leninism or Buddhism. Etymologically from portmanteaus on "schism". < 1465809935 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ism': Isms are philosophies, religions or ideologies that have branched off from older ones, such as Leninism or Buddhism. Etymologically from portmanteaus on "schism". < 1465809985 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Isms are philosophies, religions or ideologies that have branched off from older ones, such as Leninism or Buddhism. Etymologically "ism" is a backformation from portmanteaus on "schism". < 1465809993 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'ism': Isms are philosophies, religions or ideologies that have branched off from older ones, such as Leninism or Buddhism. Etymologically "ism" is a backformation from portmanteaus on "schism". < 1465810013 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Isms are philosophies, religions or ideologies that have branched off from older ones, such as Leninism or Buddhism. Etymologically "ism" is a backformation from portmanteaus on "schism". < 1465810017 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'ism': Isms are philosophies, religions or ideologies that have branched off from older ones, such as Leninism or Buddhism. Etymologically "ism" is a backformation from portmanteaus on "schism". < 1465810283 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like faceism (sometimes spelled "fascism") and brace-faceism < 1465810301 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not familiar with the latter. < 1465810456 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...non-transitive dice < 1465810467 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-regular dice where, on average, some beat others < 1465810472 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not in a nice, well-ordered fashion < 1465810514 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: shall i find something to mop up your exploded brain? < 1465810532 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes please < 1465810551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate when people say "mind = blown" < 1465810553 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fetches the vacuum < 1465810563 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because their mind is not the ONLY thing in the entire world that is currently blown < 1465810569 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no dirty jokes intended) < 1465810595 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, not necessarily < 1465810602 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So REALLY it should be mind ⊆ blown < 1465810623 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⊆ < 1465810626 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2286 SUBSET OF OR EQUAL TO] < 1465810675 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god < 1465810689 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you double the number of dice for each option and add them < 1465810718 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then if die color C beats die color D on average, die color D now beats die color C on average < 1465810942 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing new < 1465810981 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 5 non-transitive dice that beat each other clockwise if chosen one and counterclockwise if chosen two of each < 1465811005 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(each other = the next two) < 1465811169 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ...yeah. That's exactly what I was talking about < 1465811185 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: The ones invented by James Grime (apparently) < 1465811296 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin still climbing... < 1465811304 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1465811308 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't actually have any, just likes to check now and then < 1465811309 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good grime < 1465811372 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I won't be using Bitcoin until it starts to support complex and ordinal numbers < 1465811373 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465811391 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I want to be an uncountinaire, dammit < 1465811409 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1465811750 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, shouldn't it be like mind \in blown? < 1465811980 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because clearly, mind is not a set < 1465812391 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :experts in the field have been struggling for decades, if not centuries, trying to understand what the mind is < 1465812404 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you dare use the word "clearly" speaking about it?! < 1465812444 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even hofstadter did not write down the sentence "clearly there are strange loops in the mind" < 1465812562 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i can say the mind clearly is not a potato < 1465812568 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with that < 1465812579 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what YOU think < 1465812625 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: ...was that a pun? <-- yes. < 1465812714 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've said "star wars", though. < 1465812747 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1465812811 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you jabba bout < 1465813014 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i,i cash-oblivious software <-- squee < 1465813501 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i,i-word" looks like an organic molecule name < 1465813687 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bardsworthlist 2016-06-13 < 1465813692 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bardsworthlist 2016-06-13: b_jonas < 1465814093 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: See: Portal 2 < 1465814115 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: And I would argue that the mind is definitely a set < 1465814124 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bardsworhtlist? < 1465814146 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's at least a better approximation to call the mind a set than a single object. I guess. < 1465814171 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess you could treat the mind as an isolated set so it is a set within the set of blown things < 1465814222 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: But it makes more sense to treat minds as a set of things that are in the toplevel of blown; it might make more sense to make it a single object for a /human/ mind, but I'm fairly certain you could have two minds that share certain parts but separate others < 1465814249 0 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what are the elements of a mind? < 1465814264 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Not sure; it probably varies by the mind < 1465814605 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: A mind is just a bunch of stuff out of a grab bag < 1465814625 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465814787 0 :MoALTz__!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465814994 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465815274 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My internet capped out so I'm on the lowest speed my ISP offers < 1465815291 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the video I'm watching seems like the kind of thing it'd be a sin to not watch in AT LEAST 360p < 1465815351 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qdicuzlgxbiownhv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465816051 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this king in girl genius does not seem altogether sane. < 1465816644 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( that seemed unlikely ever since last wednesday ) < 1465817982 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465818013 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465818152 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465818611 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roll to decide whether to play DnD < 1465818752 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465819058 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well he _could_ have been just confused. and possibly betrayed. but now i'm starting to think his insanity is the main reason he was put there. < 1465819230 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good afternoily. < 1465819404 0 :MoALTz__!?@? NICK :MoALTz < 1465819961 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :børjan matin. < 1465819963 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boilylang < 1465819972 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1465819972 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] asked 3h 13m 12s ago: What is the International Shachaf Prototype? < 1465819984 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilylang? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465820002 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavellon[1]. it's the canonical shachaf reference hth < 1465820008 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well duh < 1465820016 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But what /is/ the canonical shachaf reference? < 1465820051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the pun that gives you the standard basis for measuring puns in terms of shachafs? < 1465820084 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hellochaf. what is the true pun? < 1465820111 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: shachaf wouldn't tell me or didn't know. I was told to ask you. < 1465820135 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION quests for the True Pun < 1465820156 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Though shachaf did say "as the tori say: \"we were spheres once, and then they torus a new one\"", which oerjan then hypothesized is the ISP < 1465820165 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: You didn't even ask me. < 1465820183 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I thought I did < 1465820193 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll request that you use some code name to refer to me, though, because getting pinged by this conversation is annoying. < 1465820205 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That pun is certainly not canonical or even characteristic. < 1465820225 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recommends shagrumpy < 1465820230 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that works < 1465820235 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shagrumpy: OK < 1465820267 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes he knew what shachaf already has coded to ping him that isn't eir nick, so that he could choose that as the codeword < 1465820269 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that torus one is a «trou» pun... < 1465820296 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: hint: it's "chaf" hth < 1465820306 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1465820313 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if shagrumpy was a Boyscowt as a child... < 1465820356 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or Girlscowt; you never know on IRC, and I can't remember off the top of my head if someone is male or unspecified- I can remember anything else though, weirdly) < 1465820393 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If shagrumpy went into food preparation, would e be "shachef"? < 1465820408 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is me looking for the OTP (One True Pun) btw) < 1465820455 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all those puns will be held against you once I'm awake enough to mapole you as you deserve. < 1465820507 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anything you say can and will be held against you" "Chocolate" < 1465820534 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... if the "anything you say..." is actually pretty stupid < 1465820545 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION unwraps a bar of choklad mörk < 1465820547 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I say "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously"? < 1465820557 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, good luck prosecuting me with that < 1465820620 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your honor, the defendant clearly admitted to being part of a sleeper cell of environmental terrorists... < 1465820648 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION munches munches munches ♪ < 1465820669 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( why is it choklad mörk rather than mörk choklad ) < 1465820711 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's what the packaging says. "Choklad mörk" then "Dark chocolate / Chocolat noir". < 1465820753 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "...made entirely of dogs" < 1465820757 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little weird putting the adjective last in swedish. < 1465820795 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDSS HTH < 1465820803 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? IDSS < 1465820810 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDSS? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1465820821 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't speak Swedish. < 1465820964 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know that episode of every science- or magic-related TV show where everbody switches brains and can only switch with each other person once? < 1465820992 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1465821000 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Really? < 1465821017 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't watched that many. < 1465821029 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: NIPPLE CHICKEN < 1465821031 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Basically, shagrumpy and boily go to http://www.magicbrainswitcher.com at the same time on a troll < 1465821044 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they suddenly switch minds < 1465821051 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They freak the fuck out < 1465821057 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :chaos ensues < 1465821058 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then when they go back to try to fix it < 1465821074 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They find that it doesn't allow you to switch with someone you've already switched with < 1465821116 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And usually it's resolved by a complicated mathematical process (which may or may not be explained) that gets everybody back where they started < 1465821134 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's a much easier AND ethically superior solution < 1465821143 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i've never seen that episode. < 1465821153 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's in a lot of TV shows < 1465821168 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Stargate: SG1, Futurama, probably some others... < 1465821180 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get all the main people back where they started, but have two or more outsiders who both happen to be trans < 1465821203 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this meme started spreading after i stopped watching tv < 1465821214 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boom. You get the same result for the main characters, AND you've made life easier for some other people. Ethisuccess! < 1465821355 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure transes work that way. < 1465821374 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Eh, it's the human race; some will, at the very least < 1465821410 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: In any situation that most people would find undesirable, there'll always be a group of people who are all for it < 1465821433 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that only helps if it actually ends up simpler. < 1465821442 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Fair enough < 1465821454 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it probably is marginally simpler < 1465821485 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a rubik's cube where you don't have to solve the bottom < 1465821521 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, fair e- waaaait < 1465821526 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combination locks are weird < 1465821551 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For most of them, the last number doesn't actually matter, but you can't remove it < 1465821582 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay? < 1465821674 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm talking about twisty ones; you can test all possible last numbers for most of them in one go < 1465821683 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdsey0irfSs is beautiful < 1465822237 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1465823939 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465824500 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465824575 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465824961 0 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc -90 < 1465824972 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-90.00°F = -67.78°C < 1465825762 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein%27s_brain < 1465825980 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1955 - 1978 : 23 years before it was revealed. are we sure it's his? < 1465826031 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: That is a rather excellent question < 1465826456 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465829408 0 :I!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465829431 0 :I!?@? NICK :Guest32135 < 1465829923 0 :hppavilion[1]!~Doslowdow@58-0-174-206.gci.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465831443 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465831530 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:7c51:12da:9ceb:b37a JOIN :#esoteric < 1465831898 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-158-181.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1465831976 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-158-181.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: thunderstorm < 1465833669 0 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-158-181.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465833835 0 :idris-bot!~idris-bot@dslb-092-072-158-181.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1465833970 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c JOIN :#esoteric < 1465834013 0 :bender__!~bender@2404:e800:e61a:41d:e92f:ad76:2f7f:6e5c QUIT :Changing host < 1465834013 0 :bender__!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465834016 0 :bender__!?@? NICK :bender < 1465834922 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1465835893 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iraywxxhjjfbkcix JOIN :#esoteric < 1465836088 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465836512 0 :bender!~bender@unaffiliated/bender/x-9459530 QUIT :Quit: [rejoin after i minutes] < 1465836570 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465837104 0 :Cale!~Cale@2607:fea8:9840:324:7c51:12da:9ceb:b37a QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1465837342 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:f0bd:5856:6f11:e228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465837479 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465837527 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stack Up14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=47196 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+2306) 10Created page with "'''Stack Up''' is a stack-based programming language. 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Each stack has no maximum depth beyond that which is..." < 1465837562 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stack Up14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47197&oldid=47196 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+19) 10 < 1465837739 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465837820 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-knyxxhuzwhumkiwf QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465837839 0 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-gbveakicxqusbntz JOIN :#esoteric < 1465838197 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47198&oldid=47185 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+15) 10 < 1465838575 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465838905 0 :Kaynato!~Aedile@cpe-75-187-129-201.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465839527 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465839723 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465839920 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465840506 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Quit: planned doom of irssi < 1465840516 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1465840532 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465840591 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stack Up14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47199&oldid=47197 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+117) 10 < 1465840627 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stack Up14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=47200&oldid=47199 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+0) 10 < 1465841499 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:50e5:e456:de85:deff:fe55:967a JOIN :#esoteric < 1465842194 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465842439 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1465843229 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is there a relevant change in .fi domain name handling? < 1465843391 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465843612 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1465844013 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@68.ip-149-56-14.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465844456 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-48-196.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465844886 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1465844954 0 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jeomtvuxfmvkryxf JOIN :#esoteric < 1465845099 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1465845122 0 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@194.108.5.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465845170 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465845182 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1f1 < 1465845277 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x1f1 < 1465845279 0 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 497 < 1465845313 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1f1->(V+52)^2->o2 < 1465845354 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :translation: get input from side one -> take input and add 52, then square -> output to side two < 1465845495 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1465845508 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :effective description of node: io: 1i 2o 3n 4n 5n 6n src: f1->(V+52)^2->o2 cmnt: the extra 1 was a personal error < 1465845682 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465845783 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465845847 0 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1465845882 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, really thats me typing mindlessly into the wrong thing for esolang planning < 1465845909 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps self for typing mindlessly into the wrong thing < 1465846538 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1465846699 0 :hwpplayer1!~hwpplayer@195.142.216.95 PART #esoteric : < 1465846804 0 :jaboja!~jaboja@2a00:f41:50e5:e456:de85:deff:fe55:967a QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1465847290 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@2a02:1811:d22:cc00:f0bd:5856:6f11:e228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1465847347 0 :spiette!~spiette@x-132-204-251-254.xtpr.umontreal.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1465851592 0 :iaglium!~i@c-73-224-87-206.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1465851653 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1465852172 0 :MoALTz!~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1465852618 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1465853234 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iraywxxhjjfbkcix QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1465853511 0 :Guest0!~textual@cpc77659-ely08-2-0-cust195.5-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465853546 0 :Guest0!~textual@cpc77659-ely08-2-0-cust195.5-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1465854328 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1465854546 0 :Cale!~Cale@CPEc8d3a35c2cdd-CM0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1465854693 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1465854995 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-66-163.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1465856100 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1465856662 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1465856881 0 :gamemanj!~gamemanj@cpc84817-aztw28-2-0-cust142.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1465857306 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers QUIT :Quit: bye http://i.imgur.com/nkzOWAv.jpg < 1465857352 0 :spockers!~spockers@unaffiliated/spockers JOIN :#esoteric < 1465857388 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vpikpdipyfxvvubk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1465857609 0 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-zsdoguojxnxwkcuo JOIN :#esoteric < 1465858170 0 :Akaibu!uid118096@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dvyakwdhepmhkmkd JOIN :#esoteric < 1465859455 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spambreaker < 1465860011 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18e43ef5.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465860038 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465860045 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1465860089 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1465860115 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhelloon_! < 1465860155 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like "granfalloon". < 1465860210 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it sounds like melloon < 1465860251 0 :moon_!4c014d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.1.77.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now excuse me while i remind boily i am _not_ a melon < 1465860312 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/4dAy9u0_9nM ♪ < 1465860328 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf. it sounds like "granfalloon". < 1465860637 0 :Guest32135!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1465861077 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom < 1465861091 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trantor//Coruscant is a planet covered entirely by a city. It is the capital of the Galactic Empire, and the home for the biggest library in it. < 1465861107 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your PhD in Heying algebra complete yet < 1465861127 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits wisdom/trantor < 1465861146 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas b_jonas < 1465861174 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1465861178 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I need to recruit more undergrads. < 1465861204 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what's that wisdom entry for < 1465861209 0 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.252.9.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: CHARGING CHICKEN < 1465861339 0 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465861909 0 :Guest0!~textual@cpc77659-ely08-2-0-cust195.5-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1465861944 0 :Guest0!~textual@cpc77659-ely08-2-0-cust195.5-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1465861991 0 :Guest0!~textual@cpc77659-ely08-2-0-cust195.5-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric